Vick says he would like to play for Carolina (1 Viewer)

[Amused to Death]

Responding to a question over the weekend on the Atlanta radio program "Gangsta Grillz," Vick revealed where he'd most like to play in the NFL: "If I could play for any team in the league, it would probably be two teams, but if I had to pick one, it would probably be the Carolina Panthers."

And here's why: "It's close to home. I like the uniforms. You get to play against Atlanta twice a year," said Vick. "Ain't nothing better than playing against your former team, right? So, yeah, that would be a good look."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...lina-panthers/1

So ignoring the fact that he's still under contract with the Eagles, and they appear likely to pay him the 1.5M roster bonus, he would like to play for Carolina because he likes the uniform?! Guess winning didn't make the list? Why do the Eagles want him...he doesn't seem to worried about winning.

 

[PitbullTD]

 

[SproutDaddy]

Does this really bother you? I would think there are far superior things to worry about in this life.

 

[Truman]

'We Want Vick!' 'We Want Vick!'

I can see it now.

 

[Amused to Death]

Vick has make it clear he wants to be a starter again, something he hasn't been since 2006. It appears the Eagles are going to pick up the roster bonus as no team will trade for him until they do. If he makes the 53 man roster they owe him another 5 mil. Would the Eagles actually invest that much in their #3 QB? If he's not the #3 then he's a player that gets on the field for 2 or 3 plays a game. If he had more in the tank the Eagles would have gotten him on the field more. At least I'd hope so.

What team would actually give up a pick for him knowing the Eagles would be crazy to keep him?

 

[Amused to Death]

Does this really bother you? I would think there are far superior things to worry about in this life.

Well I though it was worth talking about. And how many players come out and say what teams they want to play for when they're still under contract?

 

[Avery]

Does this really bother you? I would think there are far superior things to worry about in this life.

There definitely are but I'd wager to say none of them are fantasy football related so this seems as good a place to post this story as any.

 

[Truman]

Does this really bother you? I would think there are far superior things to worry about in this life.

Well I though it was worth talking about. And how many players come out and say what teams they want to play for when they're still under contract?

You only get to do this when you can choose your team. You know, like when the public has demonized you for being a dog killer, alienating owners across the entire league from taking a chance and signing you, only one team decides to give you an opportunity, so you decide to repay them by eyeing up starting jobs around the league and destroying your trade value. That way they'll have to release you.

 

[Avery]

Does this really bother you? I would think there are far superior things to worry about in this life.

Well I though it was worth talking about. And how many players come out and say what teams they want to play for when they're still under contract?

You only get to do this when you can choose your team. You know, like when the public has demonized you for being a dog killer, alienating owners across the entire league from taking a chance and signing you, only one team decides to give you an opportunity, so you decide to repay them by eyeing up starting jobs around the league and destroying your trade value. That way they'll have to release you.

I'm thinking that Vick has shown little and his trade value may not be that high and the Eagles trade either McNabb or Kolb, who have had recent success starting in the NFL, and decide to keep Vick as a solid backup at a decent $1.5 million bonus on top of his reasonable contract in an uncapped year.

 

[Amused to Death]

Does this really bother you? I would think there are far superior things to worry about in this life.

Well I though it was worth talking about. And how many players come out and say what teams they want to play for when they're still under contract?

You only get to do this when you can choose your team. You know, like when the public has demonized you for being a dog killer, alienating owners across the entire league from taking a chance and signing you, only one team decides to give you an opportunity, so you decide to repay them by eyeing up starting jobs around the league and destroying your trade value. That way they'll have to release you.

I'm thinking that Vick has shown little and his trade value may not be that high and the Eagles trade either McNabb or Kolb, who have had recent success starting in the NFL, and decide to keep Vick as a solid backup at a decent $1.5 million bonus on top of his reasonable contract in an uncapped year.

If Vick makes the Eagles 53 man roster they owe him something like another 5 million. That's a lot for a 3rd string QB/part time player.

 

[bonesman]

What's the other team?.... The Browns?

:woof:

 

[McBokonon]

radio program "Gangsta Grillz,"

Seriously?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

So it's important to him to be able to play Atlanta twice a year, presumably to stick it to the fans and owner who stood by him while he shat on their dreams. Seems he has no loyalty or appreciation for the Eaglesw and what they did for him. This guy will be quite a catch for his new owner and fan base.

 

[az_prof]

The Eagles have been shopping him all off season. I don't quite understand why he is a bad guy for responding honestly to a question about where he would like to play. We all know he isn't playing in PHI in 2010. You guys are seriously upset because you somehow think him saying he wants to play for CAR would a) be an insult to PHI who did him such a favor, or b) undermine his trade value???? You folks need to grow some thicker skin and realize it is a business. He wasn't signed out of brotherly love but because PHI knew that if he could rehabilitate his image he would be worth something. And why is it ok for the team to shop him but he is supposed to not answer a question about where he would like to go? It isn't like the team has made a long term committment to him.

 

[cstu]

Does this really bother you? I would think there are far superior things to worry about in this life.

Well I though it was worth talking about. And how many players come out and say what teams they want to play for when they're still under contract?

Vick is an unique case. This would be a story most of the time but Vick doesn't want to be a backup and barring injury it's unlikely he'll ever start in Philly. Not that the Eagles are particularly happy with him going around saying this but I'm sure they aren't shocked by it.

 

[Amused to Death]

The Eagles have been shopping him all off season. I don't quite understand why he is a bad guy for responding honestly to a question about where he would like to play. We all know he isn't playing in PHI in 2010. You guys are seriously upset because you somehow think him saying he wants to play for CAR would a) be an insult to PHI who did him such a favor, or b) undermine his trade value???? You folks need to grow some thicker skin and realize it is a business. He wasn't signed out of brotherly love but because PHI knew that if he could rehabilitate his image he would be worth something. And why is it ok for the team to shop him but he is supposed to not answer a question about where he would like to go? It isn't like the team has made a long term committment to him.

What seemed odd are his reasons for choosing Carolina. Close to home, get to play Atlanta twice a year, and their unis look cool?! Where does winning fit in that list? How much does this guy want to compete vs. wanting revenge on the Falcons and wearing a good looking uni?Arizona's been shopping Boldin for a couple seasons now but I haven't seen any reports on his list of teams he want to go to. Yes the NFL is a business, players should act professional. I think we can agree that going on a program like "Gansta Grillz" and naming teams you'd like to be traded to seems a bit below professional.And yeah I can see where it could hurt his trade value. Do you think teams like Buffalo and St. Louis take it into consideration?

 

[BassNBrew]

I the Eagles were smart, they would just cut him. No one is going to trade for Vick based upon the current film that's available. No one that would even consider signing him wants a QB with one year on their contract. He's probably going to have to come in and throw for someone to make the investment.

 

[eefflrat]

The Eagles have been shopping him all off season. I don't quite understand why he is a bad guy for responding honestly to a question about where he would like to play. We all know he isn't playing in PHI in 2010. You guys are seriously upset because you somehow think him saying he wants to play for CAR would a) be an insult to PHI who did him such a favor, or b) undermine his trade value???? You folks need to grow some thicker skin and realize it is a business. He wasn't signed out of brotherly love but because PHI knew that if he could rehabilitate his image he would be worth something. And why is it ok for the team to shop him but he is supposed to not answer a question about where he would like to go? It isn't like the team has made a long term committment to him.

What seemed odd are his reasons for choosing Carolina. Close to home, get to play Atlanta twice a year, and their unis look cool?! Where does winning fit in that list? How much does this guy want to compete vs. wanting revenge on the Falcons and wearing a good looking uni?Arizona's been shopping Boldin for a couple seasons now but I haven't seen any reports on his list of teams he want to go to. Yes the NFL is a business, players should act professional. I think we can agree that going on a program like "Gansta Grillz" and naming teams you'd like to be traded to seems a bit below professional.And yeah I can see where it could hurt his trade value. Do you think teams like Buffalo and St. Louis take it into consideration?

Does a pro athlete have to choose a winning team to prove that he wants to win? Doesn't every player, every team want to win? Wasn't Carolina in the playoffs two years ago with a 12-4 record? Don't they have a great RB, a great WR, and a pretty good defense? What is the problem here????

 

[Amused to Death]

I the Eagles were smart, they would just cut him. No one is going to trade for Vick based upon the current film that's available. No one that would even consider signing him wants a QB with one year on their contract. He's probably going to have to come in and throw for someone to make the investment.

Exactly. They're trying to pull off a bluff and get a mid-round draft pick for him. They gave him a chance to get back in NFL shape, get his name back on the NFL radar - they should just walk away now.Seeing these reports and the video, Vick isn't exactly projecting the image of someone who's changed their life and is ready to lead your billion dollar franchise. The image I get from that video is "yeah I'm chillin' on Gansta Grillz...I like Carolina's unis and it would be cool to stick it to Atlanta...where's that spliff?"

 

[Amused to Death]

The Eagles have been shopping him all off season. I don't quite understand why he is a bad guy for responding honestly to a question about where he would like to play. We all know he isn't playing in PHI in 2010. You guys are seriously upset because you somehow think him saying he wants to play for CAR would a) be an insult to PHI who did him such a favor, or b) undermine his trade value???? You folks need to grow some thicker skin and realize it is a business. He wasn't signed out of brotherly love but because PHI knew that if he could rehabilitate his image he would be worth something. And why is it ok for the team to shop him but he is supposed to not answer a question about where he would like to go? It isn't like the team has made a long term committment to him.

What seemed odd are his reasons for choosing Carolina. Close to home, get to play Atlanta twice a year, and their unis look cool?! Where does winning fit in that list? How much does this guy want to compete vs. wanting revenge on the Falcons and wearing a good looking uni?Arizona's been shopping Boldin for a couple seasons now but I haven't seen any reports on his list of teams he want to go to. Yes the NFL is a business, players should act professional. I think we can agree that going on a program like "Gansta Grillz" and naming teams you'd like to be traded to seems a bit below professional.And yeah I can see where it could hurt his trade value. Do you think teams like Buffalo and St. Louis take it into consideration?

Does a pro athlete have to choose a winning team to prove that he wants to win? Doesn't every player, every team want to win? Wasn't Carolina in the playoffs two years ago with a 12-4 record? Don't they have a great RB, a great WR, and a pretty good defense? What is the problem here????

I guess nothing in your opinion. That's fine. See my post about image.

 

[flranger]

My guess is that Vick understands that an existing QB problem has something to do with his pick of teams because he wants to start. Surprised you knuckleheads don't understand this simple concept.

I noticed he didn't say he wants to play for the Saints....despite cool uniforms and getting to play ATL twice per year. Oh, that's right it's because he doesn't want to play for winners. Seriously?? Oh yeah, that Brees guy. I guess we should bash him for not wanting to play for New England or Indy as well right?

Carolina has one of the worst QB situations in the league with an otherwise pretty strong roster. I'm not sure that Vick upgrades that roster as I don't know that he has it in him, but I guarantee you that Vick believes he could make them a pretty strong team with a good run game even better. If you were Mike Vick, you would be targeting any situation that includes suck ### QB play with quality running games. Carolina seems like the most likely place, not the least.

 

[Tanner9919]

radio program "Gangsta Grillz,"

Seriously?

that's what I was thinking..

 

[Genghis Khan]

radio program "Gangsta Grillz,"

Seriously?

that's what I was thinking..

It gave him that warm feeling that he was at home, among friends.

 

[Da Guru]

Liking the uniforms should be the #1 priority in choosing a new team.

 

[SteevieG]

Stay classy Mike....

 

[PatrickT]

I remain a former Vick supporter.

 

[TheFanatic]

I actually appreciate an honest answer. At least it wasn't the pat answer, "I want to be an Eagle. The Eagles are my team. I love the city and the fans, yada, yada."

He knows he's been shopped all offseason and it has to have crossed his mind where he could potentially go. I appreciate the candor.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

I've always thought Carolina would be a great place for McNabb if the birds were going to trade him. Good running game, steve Smith, solid d, Mcnabb could put them back in contention

 

[Dexter Manley]

So it's important to him to be able to play Atlanta twice a year, presumably to stick it to the fans and owner who stood by him while he shat on their dreams. Seems he has no loyalty or appreciation for the Eaglesw and what they did for him. This guy will be quite a catch for his new owner and fan base.

It should now be readily apparent to anyone who was naive enough to believe this guy was truly remorseful for his previous "transgressions," that it's all an act.As I've stated before, you can't rehabilitate a sociopath. Tony Dungy had to be cringing when he heard Vick's interview.

 

[RBM]

Vick is a loser

 

[David Yudkin]

FWIW, Schefter said yesterday the Eagles are planning on keeping Vick and will pay out his roster bonus due next week.

 

[Amused to Death]

FWIW, Schefter said yesterday the Eagles are planning on keeping Vick and will pay out his roster bonus due next week.

I have to believe this is just the Eagles putting on a poker face. I'm sure they do not want to be on the hook for over 5 million for him. For what? To be a backup and gadget guy? They did Goodell and Vick a favor last year, now they just want to collect a mid-round pick and be done. At least I hope so.Right now they have 3 potential starting QB's and none of them are happy with their current situation. If all 3 come back for 2010 it will have all the makings of a soap opera. But even if McNabb goes, Vick certainly won't want to back up Kolb and vice versa. If Kolb goes its the same for Vick - he won't be content as a backup to McNabb for another year.I would be perfectly happy as a fan if they get a 2 & 4 for McNabb, a 4th or 5th for Vick, sign a veteran (Pennington?) to back up Kolb and draft a #3. They can take their surplus of picks and deal them for either a higher pick in the 1st or 2nd round or an NFL player. But to bring back all 3 unhappy QB's would have trouble written all over it imo.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I am about the furthest thing from a Vick support you will find. But I also don't think this interview is a big deal. It's a little bit funny, with the title of the show and the uniform thing. Certainly isn't indicative of a big change in attitude, but it's not really indicative of anything really. He is what he is, and he isn't going to do a 180 at this point in his life/career.

Everyone knows the Eagles are shopping him. And while I get the "he should be grateful" angle to some degree, I also think most folks understand that the Eagles were (and still are) primarily trying to turn a quick profit on him. They didn't sign him to help him out. So given the reality of the situation, I don't think expressing a preference on where he ends up is all that out of bounds.

And as far is it goes, Carolina would be a perfect place for him (from his perspective - I'm not sure it would work out that well for Carolina).

 

[David Yudkin]

FWIW, Schefter said yesterday the Eagles are planning on keeping Vick and will pay out his roster bonus due next week.

I have to believe this is just the Eagles putting on a poker face. I'm sure they do not want to be on the hook for over 5 million for him. For what? To be a backup and gadget guy? They did Goodell and Vick a favor last year, now they just want to collect a mid-round pick and be done. At least I hope so.Right now they have 3 potential starting QB's and none of them are happy with their current situation. If all 3 come back for 2010 it will have all the makings of a soap opera. But even if McNabb goes, Vick certainly won't want to back up Kolb and vice versa. If Kolb goes its the same for Vick - he won't be content as a backup to McNabb for another year.I would be perfectly happy as a fan if they get a 2 & 4 for McNabb, a 4th or 5th for Vick, sign a veteran (Pennington?) to back up Kolb and draft a #3. They can take their surplus of picks and deal them for either a higher pick in the 1st or 2nd round or an NFL player. But to bring back all 3 unhappy QB's would have trouble written all over it imo.

The part that made this all seem weird is that they would be on the hook for a $1.5 million roster bonus if he is on the roster in two more days. Is a second day pick worth shelling out $1.5 million?My guess is that they will trade one of the other QBs and keep Vick as the #2 this year.

 

[Amused to Death]

FWIW, Schefter said yesterday the Eagles are planning on keeping Vick and will pay out his roster bonus due next week.

I have to believe this is just the Eagles putting on a poker face. I'm sure they do not want to be on the hook for over 5 million for him. For what? To be a backup and gadget guy? They did Goodell and Vick a favor last year, now they just want to collect a mid-round pick and be done. At least I hope so.Right now they have 3 potential starting QB's and none of them are happy with their current situation. If all 3 come back for 2010 it will have all the makings of a soap opera. But even if McNabb goes, Vick certainly won't want to back up Kolb and vice versa. If Kolb goes its the same for Vick - he won't be content as a backup to McNabb for another year.I would be perfectly happy as a fan if they get a 2 & 4 for McNabb, a 4th or 5th for Vick, sign a veteran (Pennington?) to back up Kolb and draft a #3. They can take their surplus of picks and deal them for either a higher pick in the 1st or 2nd round or an NFL player. But to bring back all 3 unhappy QB's would have trouble written all over it imo.

The part that made this all seem weird is that they would be on the hook for a $1.5 million roster bonus if he is on the roster in two more days. Is a second day pick worth shelling out $1.5 million?My guess is that they will trade one of the other QBs and keep Vick as the #2 this year.

I think the Eagle have kinda created a mess at QB. There are no clear short-term or long-term answers right now. I think all 3 QBs are sorta in limbo and waiting to see how it all shakes out.The only thing we do know for sure is that Vick wants to stick it to the Falcons and he likes the Panthers unis. That would look cool on him.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Oh, I wanted to comment on the Atlanta thing too. I found that the oddest thing of the bunch. Seems like he implied that he had some resentment toward Atlanta over the whole thing. Can't figure out why that would be from a rational perspective. Atlanta leadership was about as good to Vick as possible given the circumstances. He f'd THEM over, and they wished him well. But that is a fairly consistent theme from Vick. The guy really has no basis in reality. In his brain, Atlanta was probably somehow at fault for his departure. Couldn't be because he made bad decisions.

Anyway, still no big deal in the grand scheme and nothing is any different than it ever was, but I did find it an interesting little peak into the mind of a sociopath.

 

[Dexter Manley]

FWIW, Schefter said yesterday the Eagles are planning on keeping Vick and will pay out his roster bonus due next week.

I have to believe this is just the Eagles putting on a poker face. I'm sure they do not want to be on the hook for over 5 million for him. For what? To be a backup and gadget guy? They did Goodell and Vick a favor last year, now they just want to collect a mid-round pick and be done. At least I hope so.Right now they have 3 potential starting QB's and none of them are happy with their current situation. If all 3 come back for 2010 it will have all the makings of a soap opera. But even if McNabb goes, Vick certainly won't want to back up Kolb and vice versa. If Kolb goes its the same for Vick - he won't be content as a backup to McNabb for another year.

I would be perfectly happy as a fan if they get a 2 & 4 for McNabb, a 4th or 5th for Vick, sign a veteran (Pennington?) to back up Kolb and draft a #3. They can take their surplus of picks and deal them for either a higher pick in the 1st or 2nd round or an NFL player. But to bring back all 3 unhappy QB's would have trouble written all over it imo.

The part that made this all seem weird is that they would be on the hook for a $1.5 million roster bonus if he is on the roster in two more days. Is a second day pick worth shelling out $1.5 million?My guess is that they will trade one of the other QBs and keep Vick as the #2 this year.

I agree with this. It's the most logical explanation. And the guy they would be moving would have to be McNabb.

 

[eefflrat]

Oh, I wanted to comment on the Atlanta thing too. I found that the oddest thing of the bunch. Seems like he implied that he had some resentment toward Atlanta over the whole thing. Can't figure out why that would be from a rational perspective. Atlanta leadership was about as good to Vick as possible given the circumstances. He f'd THEM over, and they wished him well. But that is a fairly consistent theme from Vick. The guy really has no basis in reality. In his brain, Atlanta was probably somehow at fault for his departure. Couldn't be because he made bad decisions.Anyway, still no big deal in the grand scheme and nothing is any different than it ever was, but I did find it an interesting little peak into the mind of a sociopath.

Again, i am just playing Devil's Advocate here, but what is wrong with saying you want to play against your old team twice? did he say they treated him bad and he wanted revenge because of that? No, he just said he wanted to play them twice, maybe he is familiar with the division as a whole and feels more comfortable going back to the same type of schedule he had in Atlanta? So he said they had cool uniforms, maybe he said it in a joking manner. Maybe he thinks if he says it to the media he's got a legit shot to go there, I mean after all the Panthers do need a QB. It's time to get over the hate.

 

[dhockster]

I think the Eagle have kinda created a mess at QB. There are no clear short-term or long-term answers right now. I think all 3 QBs are sorta in limbo and waiting to see how it all shakes out.The only thing we do know for sure is that Vick wants to stick it to the Falcons and he likes the Panthers unis. That would look cool on him.

I would agree with you that the Eagles have created a mess if it were late August and they still had all 3 QB's on the team. But it is March before the FA signing period has even started. No one was going to trade for Vick to date, because they want to see if the Eagles will pay the $1.5 roster bonus to keep him on their team. Once the Eagles do that, then if teams are interested in Vick then they have to negotiate with the Eagles because the Eagles no longer have an incentive to cut Vick (at least until the start of the season).I would like the Eagles to trade McNabb, Start Kolb, keep Vick as a back-up, draft a number 3 QB, and use Vick more in the wildcat, both running and throwing. People who didn't watch all the Eagles games last year discount how Vick helped the Eagles sustain drives late in the season, particularly on 3rd and short, and red zone opportunities. Using him more would help to balance out Reids over reliance on the passing game (assuming he still throws as much as he did with McNabb, with Kolb at QB).I think this could happen. Not necessarily likely, but it could. I also think Vick could be traded for a 3rd or 4th round pick, depending on how many teams have real interest in him.As for Vicks comments in the interview, its pretty obvious by this and other interviews that he has decided he is going to answer questions honestly, and not give standard cliche athlete answers. I am okay with that. I don't think it makes him a bad guy, a bad teammate, or a bad player. I also don't think it affects whether the Eagles trade him or not. The Eagles have and under Reid, probably always will, operate in the teams best interest and not the players best interest. As a fan, I appreciate that.

 

[BassNBrew]

I mean after all the Panthers do need a QB. It's time to get over the hate.

Matt Moore was 4-1 with a 98 QB rating. The panthers need neither a QB nor a third RB or gansta.

 

[eefflrat]

I mean after all the Panthers do need a QB. It's time to get over the hate.

Matt Moore was 4-1 with a 98 QB rating. The panthers need neither a QB nor a third RB or gansta.

Sometimes hometown fans look at things through rose colored glasses. Sometimes the hometown fan is more in tune than the outside observer. I'm just saying Matt Moore doesn't excite me, but I am not saying that Mike Vick does. if a better QB comes along the team has to consider that.. The Gm already said there will be a competition at QB.My real beef with this thread is that everyone is dismissing vick altogether and acting like what he said is such a big deal. If the Panthers Brass thinks Vick can help their team they trade for him or sign him just like the eagles did.

 

[Mustang Man]

Responding to a question over the weekend on the Atlanta radio program "Gangsta Grillz," Vick revealed where he'd most like to play in the NFL: "If I could play for any team in the league, it would probably be two teams, but if I had to pick one, it would probably be the Carolina Panthers."

And here's why: "It's close to home. I like the uniforms. You get to play against Atlanta twice a year," said Vick. "Ain't nothing better than playing against your former team, right? So, yeah, that would be a good look."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...lina-panthers/1

So ignoring the fact that he's still under contract with the Eagles, and they appear likely to pay him the 1.5M roster bonus, he would like to play for Carolina because he likes the uniform?! Guess winning didn't make the list? Why do the Eagles want him...he doesn't seem to worried about winning.

Who would want this idiot to be the face of their franchise as a QB. Simply put I hope he stays in Philly LOL.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

So it's important to him to be able to play Atlanta twice a year, presumably to stick it to the fans and owner who stood by him while he shat on their dreams. Seems he has no loyalty or appreciation for the Eaglesw and what they did for him. This guy will be quite a catch for his new owner and fan base.

Vick is a total loser, pure and simple. I don't say things like this lightly but I'm sorry, I just don't like everything he stands for.

 

[omally]

I mean after all the Panthers do need a QB. It's time to get over the hate.

Matt Moore was 4-1 with a 98 QB rating. The panthers need neither a QB nor a third RB or gansta.

Sometimes hometown fans look at things through rose colored glasses. Sometimes the hometown fan is more in tune than the outside observer. I'm just saying Matt Moore doesn't excite me, but I am not saying that Mike Vick does. if a better QB comes along the team has to consider that.. The Gm already said there will be a competition at QB.My real beef with this thread is that everyone is dismissing vick altogether and acting like what he said is such a big deal. If the Panthers Brass thinks Vick can help their team they trade for him or sign him just like the eagles did.

I don't think the Panthers need Vick. They have two great RB's, and Vick doesn't have a better arm than Matt Moore. It is also highly unlikely that Jerry Richardson would want Vick on his team.

 

[eefflrat]

I mean after all the Panthers do need a QB. It's time to get over the hate.

Matt Moore was 4-1 with a 98 QB rating. The panthers need neither a QB nor a third RB or gansta.

Sometimes hometown fans look at things through rose colored glasses. Sometimes the hometown fan is more in tune than the outside observer. I'm just saying Matt Moore doesn't excite me, but I am not saying that Mike Vick does. if a better QB comes along the team has to consider that.. The Gm already said there will be a competition at QB.My real beef with this thread is that everyone is dismissing vick altogether and acting like what he said is such a big deal. If the Panthers Brass thinks Vick can help their team they trade for him or sign him just like the eagles did.

I don't think the Panthers need Vick. They have two great RB's, and Vick doesn't have a better arm than Matt Moore. It is also highly unlikely that Jerry Richardson would want Vick on his team.

as an Eagle fan I thought the same thing last year

 

[omally]

as an Eagle fan I thought the same thing last year

Jerry Richardson would not want him on his team.

 

[metoo]

You guys are reading to much into these comments. Here is the interview , in part 2 around the 2:10 mark is when they start talking about the NFL.

Long offseason.

 

[eefflrat]

as an Eagle fan I thought the same thing last year

Jerry Richardson would not want him on his team.

yes, and what I meant was as an eagles fan i didn't think Andy Reid would want him either. No one did.You can't say with certainty Richardson wouldn't either. No one knows.

 

[BassNBrew]

as an Eagle fan I thought the same thing last year

Jerry Richardson would not want him on his team.

yes, and what I meant was as an eagles fan i didn't think Andy Reid would want him either. No one did.You can't say with certainty Richardson wouldn't either. No one knows.

Different mentality with ownership here after the Rae Carruth and Bobby Phils incidents. It's against stadium policy to remove your shirt at a game and cheer too loudy. I'm not saying there aren't exceptions, but those exceptions wouldn't apply to dog killer with marginal accuracy and a history of poor work ethic.

 

[az_prof]

The Eagles have been shopping him all off season. I don't quite understand why he is a bad guy for responding honestly to a question about where he would like to play. We all know he isn't playing in PHI in 2010. You guys are seriously upset because you somehow think him saying he wants to play for CAR would a) be an insult to PHI who did him such a favor, or b) undermine his trade value???? You folks need to grow some thicker skin and realize it is a business. He wasn't signed out of brotherly love but because PHI knew that if he could rehabilitate his image he would be worth something. And why is it ok for the team to shop him but he is supposed to not answer a question about where he would like to go? It isn't like the team has made a long term committment to him.

What seemed odd are his reasons for choosing Carolina. Close to home, get to play Atlanta twice a year, and their unis look cool?! Where does winning fit in that list? How much does this guy want to compete vs. wanting revenge on the Falcons and wearing a good looking uni?Arizona's been shopping Boldin for a couple seasons now but I haven't seen any reports on his list of teams he want to go to. Yes the NFL is a business, players should act professional. I think we can agree that going on a program like "Gansta Grillz" and naming teams you'd like to be traded to seems a bit below professional.And yeah I can see where it could hurt his trade value. Do you think teams like Buffalo and St. Louis take it into consideration?

I agree with your first point about it being "odd" that "winning" wasn't one of his reasons. I want a QB who is all about winning, first, second, and last. It seems clear that Vick is not the sharpest card in the deck; a lot of guys would say they want to play for whomever will pay them most--let's be real here--but the political answer is "wherever I can play and help a team win" or "I don't care about the team really, but whereever I go I want to be part of a winning team, a championship team." It's all cliche. They all want money and maybe fame. To me his answer tells me he just isn't very smart at public relations, but we already knew that.The second part, about it lowering his trade value, I don't find persuasive. It isn't like he said "I hate St. Louis" or something. My guess is not too many players are playing for teams they would choose to play for if they have a choice, but it works out and it really doesn't matter. I doubt when teams interview rookies they ask them what is your favorite team to play for...and then downgrade them if the guy doesn't name their team and city. It's a slow news cycle and Vick attracts attention because he was a superstar who became a felon, so anything he says can generate hits and sell papers.