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Vikes Sign Hutchinson to Offer Sheet (1 Viewer)
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diesel7982
Footballguy
Seriously, you guys kill me with this stuff.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
As a Vikings fan, it is refreshing to have ownership that is serious about owning.
When Red McCombs was an owner, he would have sent cards to free agents such as Hutchinson telling them to stay away, lest they get the wrong idea.
I'm liking the Taylor signing the more I think about it. I have no idea how good Leber is.
But these guys look like they mean business.
Now, let's draft a stud linebacker, or o-lineman should one fall, and get down to business.
When Red McCombs was an owner, he would have sent cards to free agents such as Hutchinson telling them to stay away, lest they get the wrong idea.
I'm liking the Taylor signing the more I think about it. I have no idea how good Leber is.
But these guys look like they mean business.
Now, let's draft a stud linebacker, or o-lineman should one fall, and get down to business.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Bonehead move by the Seahawks not to pony up a bit more to franchise Hutch.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
The hawks have plenty of cap room to sign him.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I'll wait to see how this plays out before I freak out.
I guess we will see if Alexander really is good, or it's the O-line.
I guess we will see if Alexander really is good, or it's the O-line.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
My thoughts exactly.If so, Chester Taylor =
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I would rather see them let him walk if its too much. Why lock up that much money in a guard, I don't care how good he is.
aussiehockeyfan
Footballguy
As usual, PFT is early on the news. $49 million over 7 years with $16 million guaranteed. Frontloaded to dissuade the 'hawks from matching the offer.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
The Vikings have signed G Steve Hutchinson to an offer sheet worth $49 million over seven years, including $16 million in guaranteed money.
The deal has a huge cap number in the first year, which will discourage the Seahawks from matching it. They have seven days to do so. Seattle has to be regretting not placing the franchise tag on him in order to get draft pick compensation. This is the biggest contract for an interior lineman in league history by far. Mar. 12 - 4:07 pm et
The deal has a huge cap number in the first year, which will discourage the Seahawks from matching it. They have seven days to do so. Seattle has to be regretting not placing the franchise tag on him in order to get draft pick compensation. This is the biggest contract for an interior lineman in league history by far. Mar. 12 - 4:07 pm et
aussiehockeyfan
Footballguy
Before Alexander, I think they were $20 million under the cap. Even so, i think it will be almost impossible for the'hawks to match the offer sheet, unless they managed to restructure a few contracts.
Maelstrom
Footballguy
If the contract includes roster bonuses that will hit the cap this year and are not spread out over the contract like a signing bonus (which is how it sounds) , then even if the 'Hawks could match it, they probably won't do so since it would hamper the ability to sign anyone else. Unless they know that there is no way to replace Hutch, in which case the rest of FA doesn't matter.
I'm also loving this from the Chester Taylor angle since I picked him up as a free agent late last year.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
from KFFL:
Vikings | Hutchinson signed to offer sheet
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:12:55 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports free agent OG Steve Hutchinson (Seahawks) has been signed to an offer sheet worth $49 million over seven years by the Minnesota Vikings. The deal includes $16 million in guaranteed money and holds a very high salary cap number for the first year. The Vikings are using a high cap number for the first year to prevent the Seattle Seahawks from matching the offer.
Vikings | Hutchinson signed to offer sheet
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:12:55 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports free agent OG Steve Hutchinson (Seahawks) has been signed to an offer sheet worth $49 million over seven years by the Minnesota Vikings. The deal includes $16 million in guaranteed money and holds a very high salary cap number for the first year. The Vikings are using a high cap number for the first year to prevent the Seattle Seahawks from matching the offer.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Hmmm.....just a little late
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I can't think of any FA's available that would offset losing Hutchinson.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Mike Williams and move him to guard
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
Abraham, the Guard from Georgia, and a WR. I say let him go. I'm sad but this is a business and good for him in getting the money. I think the Vikings could have spent their money a little wiser but they now have the best line in football.
Captain Blowhard
Footballguy
I remember the Carolina Hurricanes signing Fedorov to a contract that guaranteed him $26 million dollars for ONE season awhile back...they were pretty smug Detroit wouldn't match.
Wrong.
Seattle isn't going to let Hutchinson get away without nothing.
They'll match next Saturday and Viking fans will be
Wrong.
Seattle isn't going to let Hutchinson get away without nothing.
They'll match next Saturday and Viking fans will be
Gopher State
Footballguy
No way Seattle will match this offer, if they do their done signing any players this year, and will have to redo some contracts of existing players just to sign their draft picks. It appears the Vikes have out foxed the Hawks 
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
This is incorrect. The Seahawks have plenty of room and will be able to sign Hutchinson without redoing anything. Where did you get that from? Guessing? They have Hutch's 6.1 already against the cap. So they have that plus about 17 million. What's the cap hit on Hutchinson in year one? The Seahawks can match bt I actually hope they do not. That is too much even for football's best guard.No way Seattle will match this offer, if they do their done signing any players this year, and will have to redo some contracts of existing players just to sign their draft picks. It appears the Vikes have out foxed the Hawks
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
1) I don't know why people are saying the hawks can not resign him, Im glad someone else besides me feels that they have the cap room.2) I do agree with you, I hope they let him go. I would rather see Floyd Womack or Max Jean Giles or even Chris Spencer there.This is incorrect. The Seahawks have plenty of room and will be able to sign Hutchinson without redoing anything. Where did you get that from? Guessing? They have Hutch's 6.1 already against the cap. So they have that plus about 17 million. What's the cap hit on Hutchinson in year one? The Seahawks can match bt I actually hope they do not. That is too much even for football's best guard.No way Seattle will match this offer, if they do their done signing any players this year, and will have to redo some contracts of existing players just to sign their draft picks. It appears the Vikes have out foxed the Hawks
mad sweeney
Footballguy
This reminds me of the Lucas deal last year. We may have to let him go. IRC, Tom Condon is his agent and he isn't exactly mgmt friendly. It could be like Kendall where he just wants too much and doesn't care where he goes. No offense to him of course, he busted his ### to get this deal. We'll miss him but we can cope and I have faith in Reinfeldt and Ruskell. One way or another we can move forward in free agency once we decide. I would like to see Bernard stay if Hutch bails.1) I don't know why people are saying the hawks can not resign him, Im glad someone else besides me feels that they have the cap room.2) I do agree with you, I hope they let him go. I would rather see Floyd Womack or Max Jean Giles or even Chris Spencer there.This is incorrect. The Seahawks have plenty of room and will be able to sign Hutchinson without redoing anything. Where did you get that from? Guessing? They have Hutch's 6.1 already against the cap. So they have that plus about 17 million. What's the cap hit on Hutchinson in year one? The Seahawks can match bt I actually hope they do not. That is too much even for football's best guard.No way Seattle will match this offer, if they do their done signing any players this year, and will have to redo some contracts of existing players just to sign their draft picks. It appears the Vikes have out foxed the Hawks
mozzy84
Footballguy
Is his contract against their cap right now? I didn't think he even had a contract with the seahwaks right now? Either way, with a 14 mill cap hit the first year thats not going to leave them with much money either way. Great signing by the vikes stud lineman are hard to come by and this guy is one of them, I don't think its to much money what so ever, when you have the money to spend, spend it on someone you know is great.This is incorrect. The Seahawks have plenty of room and will be able to sign Hutchinson without redoing anything. Where did you get that from? Guessing? They have Hutch's 6.1 already against the cap. So they have that plus about 17 million. What's the cap hit on Hutchinson in year one? The Seahawks can match bt I actually hope they do not. That is too much even for football's best guard.No way Seattle will match this offer, if they do their done signing any players this year, and will have to redo some contracts of existing players just to sign their draft picks. It appears the Vikes have out foxed the Hawks
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
He is counting 6 million against their 20 million they have left. They gave him the transition tag which is around 6 mill.........................if they let him go they have an extra 12 million to spend........I think to sign him would be stupid. They then would have big money locked up in 4 players.Is his contract against their cap right now? I didn't think he even had a contract with the seahwaks right now? Either way, with a 14 mill cap hit the first year thats not going to leave them with much money either way. Great signing by the vikes stud lineman are hard to come by and this guy is one of them, I don't think its to much money what so ever, when you have the money to spend, spend it on someone you know is great.This is incorrect. The Seahawks have plenty of room and will be able to sign Hutchinson without redoing anything. Where did you get that from? Guessing? They have Hutch's 6.1 already against the cap. So they have that plus about 17 million. What's the cap hit on Hutchinson in year one? The Seahawks can match bt I actually hope they do not. That is too much even for football's best guard.No way Seattle will match this offer, if they do their done signing any players this year, and will have to redo some contracts of existing players just to sign their draft picks. It appears the Vikes have out foxed the Hawks
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Best line in football is saying a bit much. But a trio of McKinnie, Hutchinson, and Birk is very solid. McKinnie really showed his abilities last year and I think is starting to show why he was a top 10 pick.On the right side, Marcus Johnson was only a rookie last year and he showed that he can be a very good right guard or even right tackle. Unsure yet what they plan to do at that last spot on the right. I don't think Rosenthal is the answer.
They may have overpaid for Hutchinson, but that was the only way that they were going to get him, and VIkings owner Wilf is trying hard to make a splash in free agency to get some positive PR for the franchise. This certainly buys it.
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PeaceBringer
Footballguy
I don't believe it works like that. The vikes didn't get any money back toward the cap when they lifted Williams tag. So I think you are wrong there.This is incorrect. The Seahawks have plenty of room and will be able to sign Hutchinson without redoing anything. Where did you get that from? Guessing? They have Hutch's 6.1 already against the cap. So they have that plus about 17 million. What's the cap hit on Hutchinson in year one? The Seahawks can match bt I actually hope they do not. That is too much even for football's best guard.No way Seattle will match this offer, if they do their done signing any players this year, and will have to redo some contracts of existing players just to sign their draft picks. It appears the Vikes have out foxed the Hawks
Preacher 1
Footballguy
Correct me if i'm wrong, which is very possible, but the purpose of the offer sheet is to act as a contract. If Seattle want's to match the offer, don't thay have to do just that? Match the offer exactly as it was structured? That would prevent any "renegotiating" of the roster bonus or signing bonus.Either way, it doesn't do that much for me unless they get a QB...Brad's a great guy, but at 38, he's got virtually nothing letf in the tank. C-Pep has poisioned the well so he's not a viable option, and they appear to have no interest in Brees...Doesn't make any sense to me.
They sign a kicker, lose a quality CB, sign an injured back-up linebacker, and overpay for an guard. The only thing that I really like that they did was to re-sign Koren Robinson. They better have something else in mind, or it's not too esciting to me.
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
The transition money is already counted against the cap. Williams money would have gone from a franchise to a transitional and that money is currently counted against the cap because it is a carryover salary. But this also depends on the source which varies.From what I see the Vikings have less than the Seahawks in total cap space after the Taylor signing. If the Vikings sign Hutch they will have around 12 mill left for 2006 while if the Seahawks signed him they would have more than 13. But I don't work for the NFL and we take what we can get as far as information. This is what I know based on testimonials, articles, news, etc. This is not 8th grade Algebra by any means but I believe I'm 80-95 percent right.I don't believe it works like that. The vikes didn't get any money back toward the cap when they lifted Williams tag. So I think you are wrong there.This is incorrect. The Seahawks have plenty of room and will be able to sign Hutchinson without redoing anything. Where did you get that from? Guessing? They have Hutch's 6.1 already against the cap. So they have that plus about 17 million. What's the cap hit on Hutchinson in year one? The Seahawks can match bt I actually hope they do not. That is too much even for football's best guard.No way Seattle will match this offer, if they do their done signing any players this year, and will have to redo some contracts of existing players just to sign their draft picks. It appears the Vikes have out foxed the Hawks
hutchins929
Footballguy
As a Lions fan I can say that I am very impressed with what the Vikes are doing so far. With a division wide open they are the only team being aggressive. If they end up with Hutch, no relation, they will have to be the favorites to win the north regardless of who is under center.
1,650+ rushing yards next season
1,650+ rushing yards next season
