Vikings' Troy Williamson Caught 20,000 Balls This Offseason (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

Vikings' Troy Williamson Caught 20,000 Balls This OffseasonPosted Aug 2nd 2007 9:16PM by Ryan WilsonI have a lot of admiration for Troy Williamson. He was drafted seventh overall in 2005 -- to replace Randy Moss -- and proceeded to bumble his way through his first two NFL seasons. But he never made excuses, took full responsibility for sucking, and spent this off-season working on his hand-eye coordination. And now, after dropping the very first pass he saw in training camp -- and another one that same day for good measure -- Williamson is feels like this is finally his time: ... "I just can't wait to get back on the football field and really show the type of player I was drafted to be ... Everything is going to pan out. I worked too hard in theoffseason not to have a good year. I'm going to do what I've got to do this season to make myself better."The all new soft and cuddly head coach Brad Childress noted a change in Williamson's demeanor, and praised his third-year wideout for working to get better. (According to the story, Williamson caught 20,000 passes this off-season. Sounds like overkill, but hey, the dude had 11 drops last year.) "I might drop a ball here and there, but I want to come back and catch the next one," Williamson said. "That's really what it's all about. ... I've got a mindset now that you've got to have a short memory. A lot of things happen in one football game." Again, kudos to Williamson for his frankness, and I hope the guy has a great season. Getting rid of Brad Johnson is a start, but Tarvaris Jackson is still a big question mark heading into the season.

I'm not sure if this changes my mind about him or not.

 

[mightyeskimo]

How about just catching some in an actual game.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Unfortunately 100,000 balls were thrown to him.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Unfortunately 100,000 balls were thrown to him.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Throw wrenches at him.

oh wait I thought troy played dodgeball

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Here's the thing...

I think many are attracted to his no excuses I gotta take responsibility for this approach. Great. But what were the last two years? Was he not trying hard before to catch passes? Will all this practice make him better in the actual game or just better at catching passes from a machine?

 

[nygiants56]

Vikings' Troy Williamson Caught 20,000 Balls This OffseasonPosted Aug 2nd 2007 9:16PM by Ryan WilsonI have a lot of admiration for Troy Williamson. He was drafted seventh overall in 2005 -- to replace Randy Moss -- and proceeded to bumble his way through his first two NFL seasons. But he never made excuses, took full responsibility for sucking, and spent this off-season working on his hand-eye coordination. And now, after dropping the very first pass he saw in training camp -- and another one that same day for good measure -- Williamson is feels like this is finally his time: ... "I just can't wait to get back on the football field and really show the type of player I was drafted to be ... Everything is going to pan out. I worked too hard in theoffseason not to have a good year. I'm going to do what I've got to do this season to make myself better."The all new soft and cuddly head coach Brad Childress noted a change in Williamson's demeanor, and praised his third-year wideout for working to get better. (According to the story, Williamson caught 20,000 passes this off-season. Sounds like overkill, but hey, the dude had 11 drops last year.) "I might drop a ball here and there, but I want to come back and catch the next one," Williamson said. "That's really what it's all about. ... I've got a mindset now that you've got to have a short memory. A lot of things happen in one football game." Again, kudos to Williamson for his frankness, and I hope the guy has a great season. Getting rid of Brad Johnson is a start, but Tarvaris Jackson is still a big question mark heading into the season.

I'm not sure if this changes my mind about him or not.

of the 20,000 passes, he dropped 19,275..but boy, is he fast, or what?!

 

[Rodeojones]

I think the bigger problem is "who is going to be throwing to Troy?" That is where his problem lays....

 

[EBF]

There's something to be said for natural pass catching ability. It's the reason Quincy Morgan is fighting for a roster spot instead of celebrating his third straight Pro Bowl. Some guys just don't have the natural receiving skills. All the work in the world can't replace shoddy instincts.

But I respect Williamson more for at least trying. It can't hurt. And given the lack of WR talent on Minnesota's roster, there's nothing to prevent him from being their best WR next season.

 

[Sinrman]

I think the bigger problem is "who is going to be throwing to Troy?" That is where his problem lays....

hehe it took THIS many replies before someone said it?! I couldn't believe that I almost had to say it...

 

[tommyGunZ]

Unfortunately 100,000 balls were thrown to him.

GOLD

 

[chris1969]

There's something to be said for natural pass catching ability. It's the reason Quincy Morgan is fighting for a roster spot instead of celebrating his third straight Pro Bowl. Some guys just don't have the natural receiving skills. All the work in the world can't replace shoddy instincts. But I respect Williamson more for at least trying. It can't hurt. And given the lack of WR talent on Minnesota's roster, there's nothing to prevent him from being their best WR next season.

I totally disagree! Catching the ball can be taught. All you need is a WR that is both dedicated and smart enough to follow simple instructions. It also helps if he doesn't have an ego and has a good WR coach. Unfortunately, most WR's coming out of college have egos that make them un-coachable. They survived enough in college because of speed and athletic ability, so they think they can glide by in the NFL, but give me a 300 pound motivated HS NT and I can teach him to catch the ball consistently. Catching the ball is all technique and desire and no ability. Now I will admit there are certain athletic catches that can't be taught, but that's just icing on the cake. You give me a guy like Williamson, Morgan or Bryant, and I could make them all Pro-Bowlers just by mastering the basics.

 

[RoyDubb]

I think the bigger problem is "who is going to be throwing to Troy?" That is where his problem lays....

hehe it took THIS many replies before someone said it?! I couldn't believe that I almost had to say it...

did everyone who respond here drafted Williamson last year or 2 years ago?????I dont believe he had problems hanging onto the ball in college. I believe it was a confidence thing all year last year. And having the work ethic to do as much as he did and is doing this offseason really bodes well for him.

 

[Penguin]

I think the bigger problem is "who is going to be throwing to Troy?" That is where his problem lays....

hehe it took THIS many replies before someone said it?! I couldn't believe that I almost had to say it...

did everyone who respond here drafted Williamson last year or 2 years ago?????I dont believe he had problems hanging onto the ball in college. I believe it was a confidence thing all year last year. And having the work ethic to do as much as he did and is doing this offseason really bodes well for him.

You bring up a good point here. The folks at Vikings camp are saying that Williamson is walking around with a lot more confidence this summer than he's had in the past two years. He's worked extremely hard in the off season as well as having his vision looked at & supposidly corrected. Now, the real question is will Troy's confidence fall apart as soon as he drops an easy one in a real game or will he work through it? That remains to be seen. He's definately got upside as there's not a lot of world beaters at WR on the squad.

 

[Bri]

I'm not sure if this changes my mind about him or not.

Hey BigTex, what you probably want to do is look up how he trained at the Nike training facility. Remember Rocky IV and all those fancy machines for "the russian"? Nike created that type of training environment. Can catching 20k balls from a machine improve players performance? Or must it have been from a QBs throw? Maybe you don't think that's so fancy but there was alot of fancy shmancy machines. IIRC more potential draft picks than NFL players trained there this year but they probably stirred up enough to land more NFL guys next year. It'll sure be interesting to see how it works out and then to see if he or Nike gets the credit from the public.

 

[Futeki]

There's something to be said for natural pass catching ability. It's the reason Quincy Morgan is fighting for a roster spot instead of celebrating his third straight Pro Bowl. Some guys just don't have the natural receiving skills. All the work in the world can't replace shoddy instincts.

But I respect Williamson more for at least trying. It can't hurt. And given the lack of WR talent on Minnesota's roster, there's nothing to prevent him from being their best WR next season.

I totally disagree! Catching the ball can be taught. All you need is a WR that is both dedicated and smart enough to follow simple instructions. It also helps if he doesn't have an ego and has a good WR coach. Unfortunately, most WR's coming out of college have egos that make them un-coachable. They survived enough in college because of speed and athletic ability, so they think they can glide by in the NFL, but give me a 300 pound motivated HS NT and I can teach him to catch the ball consistently. Catching the ball is all technique and desire and no ability. Now I will admit there are certain athletic catches that can't be taught, but that's just icing on the cake. You give me a guy like Williamson, Morgan or Bryant, and I could make them all Pro-Bowlers just by mastering the basics.

One word - clueless.

 

[Demian]

I totally disagree! Catching the ball can be taught. All you need is a WR that is both dedicated and smart enough to follow simple instructions. It also helps if he doesn't have an ego and has a good WR coach. Unfortunately, most WR's coming out of college have egos that make them un-coachable. They survived enough in college because of speed and athletic ability, so they think they can glide by in the NFL, but give me a 300 pound motivated HS NT and I can teach him to catch the ball consistently. Catching the ball is all technique and desire and no ability. Now I will admit there are certain athletic catches that can't be taught, but that's just icing on the cake. You give me a guy like Williamson, Morgan or Bryant, and I could make them all Pro-Bowlers just by mastering the basics.

Which NFL team do you work for again? :(

 

[Jayrod]

There's something to be said for natural pass catching ability. It's the reason Quincy Morgan is fighting for a roster spot instead of celebrating his third straight Pro Bowl. Some guys just don't have the natural receiving skills. All the work in the world can't replace shoddy instincts.

But I respect Williamson more for at least trying. It can't hurt. And given the lack of WR talent on Minnesota's roster, there's nothing to prevent him from being their best WR next season.

I totally disagree! Catching the ball can be taught. All you need is a WR that is both dedicated and smart enough to follow simple instructions. It also helps if he doesn't have an ego and has a good WR coach. Unfortunately, most WR's coming out of college have egos that make them un-coachable. They survived enough in college because of speed and athletic ability, so they think they can glide by in the NFL, but give me a 300 pound motivated HS NT and I can teach him to catch the ball consistently. Catching the ball is all technique and desire and no ability. Now I will admit there are certain athletic catches that can't be taught, but that's just icing on the cake. You give me a guy like Williamson, Morgan or Bryant, and I could make them all Pro-Bowlers just by mastering the basics.

XCatching technique can be improved upon, but little can be done to drastically improve hand-eye coordination and reaction time, which is where catching skills come from.

 

[*****]

Throw wrenches at him.oh wait I thought troy played dodgeball

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.Is it just me or does catching 20,000 passes over five or six months seem like no big deal? 500 catches a day seems pretty reasonable (unless he running alot of deep patterns) and he'd only have to do that on about forty days over about five months.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Unfortunately 100,000 balls were thrown to him.

legendary...

 

[kensat30]

But he never made excuses, took full responsibility for sucking, and spent this off-season working on his hand-eye coordination. And now, after dropping the very first pass he saw in training camp -- and another one that same day for good measure -- Williamson is feels like this is finally his time.

 

[chris1969]

I totally disagree! Catching the ball can be taught. All you need is a WR that is both dedicated and smart enough to follow simple instructions. It also helps if he doesn't have an ego and has a good WR coach. Unfortunately, most WR's coming out of college have egos that make them un-coachable. They survived enough in college because of speed and athletic ability, so they think they can glide by in the NFL, but give me a 300 pound motivated HS NT and I can teach him to catch the ball consistently. Catching the ball is all technique and desire and no ability. Now I will admit there are certain athletic catches that can't be taught, but that's just icing on the cake. You give me a guy like Williamson, Morgan or Bryant, and I could make them all Pro-Bowlers just by mastering the basics.

Which NFL team do you work for again?

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night!But seriously catching is all mechanics and mechanics can be learned. I'm not talking about acrobatic catches, I'm talking about catching the passes that hit you in the hands. It's not rocket Science, anybody can do it.

 

[switz]

This is ridiculous! Did a bunch of 2nd and 3rd graders take a field trip to FBG Forums?

I think there are more posts in this thread referring to male genitalia than football.

You all go somewhere else to check out that topic if it's what's really interesting you.

Some of us are here because we are interested in FF.

 

[jurb26]

This is ridiculous! Did a bunch of 2nd and 3rd graders take a field trip to FBG Forums?I think there are more posts in this thread referring to male genitalia than football.You all go somewhere else to check out that topic if it's what's really interesting you.Some of us are here because we are interested in FF.

Mods haven't really been present for the last 2 years. What do you expect. The board suffers because of it.

 

[AnonymousBob]

This is ridiculous! Did a bunch of 2nd and 3rd graders take a field trip to FBG Forums?I think there are more posts in this thread referring to male genitalia than football.You all go somewhere else to check out that topic if it's what's really interesting you.Some of us are here because we are interested in FF.

Sig material.If it's a WSIS thread it gets pounced upon quickly...this kinda stuff gets closed up or moved but it just takes longer. Just because not everyone agrees with you regarding MJD is no reason to get your panties in a bunch.Besides, what fantasy impact does this have? Williamson STILL can't catch and the Vikings offense (or lack thereof) will go through their two running backs. No wr's from this team are worth owning.

 

[Otis]

This is ridiculous! Did a bunch of 2nd and 3rd graders take a field trip to FBG Forums?

I think there are more posts in this thread referring to male genitalia than football.

You all go somewhere else to check out that topic if it's what's really interesting you.

Some of us are here because we are interested in FF.

Mods haven't really been present for the last 2 years. What do you expect. The board suffers because of it.

I don't think I could possibly disagree more with this sentiment.

 

[gman8343]

I like Williamson as a nice sleeper. He can be had late, and from every indication has a great work ethic and has made a huge effort to improve the weaknesses in his game. The same can't be said for many other WRs.

 

[switz]

This is ridiculous! Did a bunch of 2nd and 3rd graders take a field trip to FBG Forums?

I think there are more posts in this thread referring to male genitalia than football.

You all go somewhere else to check out that topic if it's what's really interesting you.

Some of us are here because we are interested in FF.

Sig material.If it's a WSIS thread it gets pounced upon quickly...this kinda stuff gets closed up or moved but it just takes longer. Just because not everyone agrees with you regarding MJD is no reason to get your panties in a bunch.

Besides, what fantasy impact does this have? Williamson STILL can't catch and the Vikings offense (or lack thereof) will go through their two running backs. No wr's from this team are worth owning.

I'm not sure whatever my supposed stance on MJD has anything to do with the juvenile tone this thread has taken on, nor how it inspired you to respond in the same juvenile manner as some of the other poasters in this thread.However, the only thing holding TW back from superstardom IS catching the football. So if he shows signs of improvement, he could be a late round steal.

 

[AnonymousBob]

This is ridiculous! Did a bunch of 2nd and 3rd graders take a field trip to FBG Forums?

I think there are more posts in this thread referring to male genitalia than football.

You all go somewhere else to check out that topic if it's what's really interesting you.

Some of us are here because we are interested in FF.

Sig material.If it's a WSIS thread it gets pounced upon quickly...this kinda stuff gets closed up or moved but it just takes longer. Just because not everyone agrees with you regarding MJD is no reason to get your panties in a bunch.

Besides, what fantasy impact does this have? Williamson STILL can't catch and the Vikings offense (or lack thereof) will go through their two running backs. No wr's from this team are worth owning.

I'm not sure whatever my supposed stance on MJD has anything to do with the juvenile tone this thread has taken on, nor how it inspired you to respond in the same juvenile manner as some of the other poasters in this thread.However, the only thing holding TW back from superstardom IS catching the football. So if he shows signs of improvement, he could be a late round steal.

I agree his biggest problem is catching the football...he's worth a late round flyer. As gman pointed out in the post before, he's at least working to improve his weak area.

 

[jurb26]

I like Williamson as a nice sleeper. He can be had late, and from every indication has a great work ethic and has made a huge effort to improve the weaknesses in his game. The same can't be said for many other WRs.

I've tried to get Williamson on all my dynasty teams (and have). You just can't beat the low price right now. He creates great separation vs DBs and seems to do so easily. He has improved his route running drastically since entering the league. He displays fantastic work ethic. A lot of times catching the ball can simply be a confidence issue that snow balls on a guy rapidly. I think with Williamson's hard work and a jolt of confidence, he could provide super value.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

This is ridiculous! Did a bunch of 2nd and 3rd graders take a field trip to FBG Forums?

I think there are more posts in this thread referring to male genitalia than football.

You all go somewhere else to check out that topic if it's what's really interesting you.

Some of us are here because we are interested in FF.

Mods haven't really been present for the last 2 years. What do you expect. The board suffers because of it.

I don't think I could possibly disagree more with this sentiment.

Same as always, J

 

[Joe Bryant]

This is ridiculous! Did a bunch of 2nd and 3rd graders take a field trip to FBG Forums?

I think there are more posts in this thread referring to male genitalia than football.

You all go somewhere else to check out that topic if it's what's really interesting you.

Some of us are here because we are interested in FF.

Mods haven't really been present for the last 2 years. What do you expect. The board suffers because of it.

I don't think I could possibly disagree more with this sentiment.

I'm with Otis. I'm either nazi board cop censoring every post or we're not present for 2 years.

With regard to the post. Don't be a tool. And the tool factor is off the charts on this thread with the jokes. Please keep it to NFL discussion or find a new board. It's unfortunately not a lot more complicated than that.

J

 

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[veto87]

I think the bigger problem is "who is going to be throwing to Troy?" That is where his problem lays....

hehe it took THIS many replies before someone said it?! I couldn't believe that I almost had to say it...

did everyone who respond here drafted Williamson last year or 2 years ago?????I dont believe he had problems hanging onto the ball in college. I believe it was a confidence thing all year last year. And having the work ethic to do as much as he did and is doing this offseason really bodes well for him.

You bring up a good point here. The folks at Vikings camp are saying that Williamson is walking around with a lot more confidence this summer than he's had in the past two years. He's worked extremely hard in the off season as well as having his vision looked at & supposidly corrected. Now, the real question is will Troy's confidence fall apart as soon as he drops an easy one in a real game or will he work through it? That remains to be seen. He's definately got upside as there's not a lot of world beaters at WR on the squad.

his vision could be part of the problem, if you recall in baseball last season Johnny Peralta had a bad year but had laser surgery in the offseason... guess what , he's having a better year. Are there any links to what the eyesight problem was ?

 

[jurb26]

I think the bigger problem is "who is going to be throwing to Troy?" That is where his problem lays....

hehe it took THIS many replies before someone said it?! I couldn't believe that I almost had to say it...

did everyone who respond here drafted Williamson last year or 2 years ago?????I dont believe he had problems hanging onto the ball in college. I believe it was a confidence thing all year last year. And having the work ethic to do as much as he did and is doing this offseason really bodes well for him.

You bring up a good point here. The folks at Vikings camp are saying that Williamson is walking around with a lot more confidence this summer than he's had in the past two years. He's worked extremely hard in the off season as well as having his vision looked at & supposidly corrected. Now, the real question is will Troy's confidence fall apart as soon as he drops an easy one in a real game or will he work through it? That remains to be seen. He's definately got upside as there's not a lot of world beaters at WR on the squad.

his vision could be part of the problem, if you recall in baseball last season Johnny Peralta had a bad year but had laser surgery in the offseason... guess what , he's having a better year. Are there any links to what the eyesight problem was ?

I think it has something to do with irregular strength between the eyes... one was much stronger than the other. So, he did drills (not surgery) to try and even them out. Not totally sure as to the specifics, sorry.

 

[Biabreakable]

Williamson dropped 11 balls last year. Look up WR drops and tell me why this is such a abnormaly high number of drops.

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

But carry on with your sensationalist slander.

Williamson = value.

At least you can rag on the guy who ends up drafting him with your clever jokes about his inability to catch the ball (which is totay blown out of proportion) though.

 

[Da Guru]

Vikings' Troy Williamson Caught 20,000 Balls This OffseasonPosted Aug 2nd 2007 9:16PM by Ryan WilsonI have a lot of admiration for Troy Williamson. He was drafted seventh overall in 2005 -- to replace Randy Moss -- and proceeded to bumble his way through his first two NFL seasons. But he never made excuses, took full responsibility for sucking, and spent this off-season working on his hand-eye coordination. And now, after dropping the very first pass he saw in training camp -- and another one that same day for good measure -- Williamson is feels like this is finally his time: ... "I just can't wait to get back on the football field and really show the type of player I was drafted to be ... Everything is going to pan out. I worked too hard in theoffseason not to have a good year. I'm going to do what I've got to do this season to make myself better."The all new soft and cuddly head coach Brad Childress noted a change in Williamson's demeanor, and praised his third-year wideout for working to get better. (According to the story, Williamson caught 20,000 passes this off-season. Sounds like overkill, but hey, the dude had 11 drops last year.) "I might drop a ball here and there, but I want to come back and catch the next one," Williamson said. "That's really what it's all about. ... I've got a mindset now that you've got to have a short memory. A lot of things happen in one football game." Again, kudos to Williamson for his frankness, and I hope the guy has a great season. Getting rid of Brad Johnson is a start, but Tarvaris Jackson is still a big question mark heading into the season.

I'm not sure if this changes my mind about him or not.

Even if he can catch it, who is going to throw it to him? Did you see the last Viking game of the year?

 

[bonesman]

Williamson dropped 11 balls last year. Look up WR drops and tell me why this is such a abnormaly high number of drops.Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.But carry on with your sensationalist slander.Williamson = value. At least you can rag on the guy who ends up drafting him with your clever jokes about his inability to catch the ball (which is totay blown out of proportion) though.

what's his target to drop ratio though? I bet it's higher than those other guys w/ 11 drops.

 

[chris1969]

I think the bigger problem is "who is going to be throwing to Troy?" That is where his problem lays....

hehe it took THIS many replies before someone said it?! I couldn't believe that I almost had to say it...

did everyone who respond here drafted Williamson last year or 2 years ago?????I dont believe he had problems hanging onto the ball in college. I believe it was a confidence thing all year last year. And having the work ethic to do as much as he did and is doing this offseason really bodes well for him.

You bring up a good point here. The folks at Vikings camp are saying that Williamson is walking around with a lot more confidence this summer than he's had in the past two years. He's worked extremely hard in the off season as well as having his vision looked at & supposidly corrected. Now, the real question is will Troy's confidence fall apart as soon as he drops an easy one in a real game or will he work through it? That remains to be seen. He's definately got upside as there's not a lot of world beaters at WR on the squad.

his vision could be part of the problem, if you recall in baseball last season Johnny Peralta had a bad year but had laser surgery in the offseason... guess what , he's having a better year. Are there any links to what the eyesight problem was ?

I think it has something to do with irregular strength between the eyes... one was much stronger than the other. So, he did drills (not surgery) to try and even them out. Not totally sure as to the specifics, sorry.

The Browns tried the same thing with Dennis Droppcut. It didn't take with him, but a dominate eye can severely effect depth perception and supposedly it is correctable. So is hand eye coordination. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure reaction time is not improvable though.

 

[Biabreakable]

Williamson dropped 11 balls last year. Look up WR drops and tell me why this is such a abnormaly high number of drops.Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.But carry on with your sensationalist slander.Williamson = value. At least you can rag on the guy who ends up drafting him with your clever jokes about his inability to catch the ball (which is totay blown out of proportion) though.

what's his target to drop ratio though? I bet it's higher than those other guys w/ 11 drops.

Of course it is. He got benched after dropping a few critical passes. And that would be the main risk imo is if he drops key passes again the coaches may again bench him. But if they stick with Williamson and he doesen't lose confidence in himself (which also was a major issue last year and probobly a big part in his benching) he is going to get a lot of targets.

 

[Hinezer]

The thing about Williamson is that it is just his hands. If he figures out how to catch, he could be a great WR. Not only does he have great speed, but he creates great separation. Looking back at the last two years, Williamson is the only Viking receiver that could consistantly beat his man. If he want to get an idea of what his potential is, take a look at his stats if he only dropped half of those passes and project that over an entire season. He does everything very good except catch the ball. I'm interested to see if he's actually made any progress in that area of his game.

 

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[Bri]

Williamson dropped 11 balls last year. Look up WR drops and tell me why this is such a abnormaly high number of drops.Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.But carry on with your sensationalist slander.Williamson = value. At least you can rag on the guy who ends up drafting him with your clever jokes about his inability to catch the ball (which is totay blown out of proportion) though.

I don't doubt it's out of proportion but 11 is too low. As you've probably seen over the years, occasionally that stat is "off".SOME of the reports of his vision probs and concentration issues seem genuine when he's quoted or doctors or trainers are quoted. His production is nothing like a high pick should produce so I think that just frustrates people to go off on tangents

 

[derek19]

That sucks. I won a championship last year because he dropped a couple potential TD's.. OH well..

 

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[BigTex]

I'm not sure if this changes my mind about him or not.

Hey BigTex, what you probably want to do is look up how he trained at the Nike training facility. Remember Rocky IV and all those fancy machines for "the russian"? Nike created that type of training environment. Can catching 20k balls from a machine improve players performance? Or must it have been from a QBs throw? Maybe you don't think that's so fancy but there was alot of fancy shmancy machines. IIRC more potential draft picks than NFL players trained there this year but they probably stirred up enough to land more NFL guys next year. It'll sure be interesting to see how it works out and then to see if he or Nike gets the credit from the public.

Hello Bri, you make a great point. I drafted Troy as a rookie in one of my dynasty leagues, he's no longer on my roster. I have other Wrs with lower expectations out performing him.

 

[BigTex]

Vikings' Troy Williamson Caught 20,000 Balls This OffseasonPosted Aug 2nd 2007 9:16PM by Ryan WilsonI have a lot of admiration for Troy Williamson. He was drafted seventh overall in 2005 -- to replace Randy Moss -- and proceeded to bumble his way through his first two NFL seasons. But he never made excuses, took full responsibility for sucking, and spent this off-season working on his hand-eye coordination. And now, after dropping the very first pass he saw in training camp -- and another one that same day for good measure -- Williamson is feels like this is finally his time: ... "I just can't wait to get back on the football field and really show the type of player I was drafted to be ... Everything is going to pan out. I worked too hard in theoffseason not to have a good year. I'm going to do what I've got to do this season to make myself better."The all new soft and cuddly head coach Brad Childress noted a change in Williamson's demeanor, and praised his third-year wideout for working to get better. (According to the story, Williamson caught 20,000 passes this off-season. Sounds like overkill, but hey, the dude had 11 drops last year.) "I might drop a ball here and there, but I want to come back and catch the next one," Williamson said. "That's really what it's all about. ... I've got a mindset now that you've got to have a short memory. A lot of things happen in one football game." Again, kudos to Williamson for his frankness, and I hope the guy has a great season. Getting rid of Brad Johnson is a start, but Tarvaris Jackson is still a big question mark heading into the season.

I'm not sure if this changes my mind about him or not.

Even if he can catch it, who is going to throw it to him? Did you see the last Viking game of the year?

No, I didn't. At that point I had given up on him.

 

[mozzy84]

Vikings' Troy Williamson Caught 20,000 Balls This OffseasonPosted Aug 2nd 2007 9:16PM by Ryan WilsonI have a lot of admiration for Troy Williamson. He was drafted seventh overall in 2005 -- to replace Randy Moss -- and proceeded to bumble his way through his first two NFL seasons. But he never made excuses, took full responsibility for sucking, and spent this off-season working on his hand-eye coordination. And now, after dropping the very first pass he saw in training camp -- and another one that same day for good measure -- Williamson is feels like this is finally his time: ... "I just can't wait to get back on the football field and really show the type of player I was drafted to be ... Everything is going to pan out. I worked too hard in theoffseason not to have a good year. I'm going to do what I've got to do this season to make myself better."The all new soft and cuddly head coach Brad Childress noted a change in Williamson's demeanor, and praised his third-year wideout for working to get better. (According to the story, Williamson caught 20,000 passes this off-season. Sounds like overkill, but hey, the dude had 11 drops last year.) "I might drop a ball here and there, but I want to come back and catch the next one," Williamson said. "That's really what it's all about. ... I've got a mindset now that you've got to have a short memory. A lot of things happen in one football game." Again, kudos to Williamson for his frankness, and I hope the guy has a great season. Getting rid of Brad Johnson is a start, but Tarvaris Jackson is still a big question mark heading into the season.

I'm not sure if this changes my mind about him or not.

Even if he can catch it, who is going to throw it to him? Did you see the last Viking game of the year?

No, I didn't. At that point I had given up on him.

you and the rest of the vikings team, jackson was on an island by himself that day.

 

[Garts]

Williamson dropped 11 balls last year. Look up WR drops and tell me why this is such a abnormaly high number of drops.Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.But carry on with your sensationalist slander.Williamson = value. At least you can rag on the guy who ends up drafting him with your clever jokes about his inability to catch the ball (which is totay blown out of proportion) though.

I think his drops wre more noticeable because of the situations they happened in...like if he didn't drop it he would've score drops.