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You forgot the GW kick that Vandy missed in the 2000 playoffs at Miami. That was a huge miss for the franchise, meaning if he made that kick Manning would have notched a playoff win much earlier in his career.I will beAny chance this move of his keeps him out of the HOF? I know kickers usually do not make it in, but there was talk that AV could get in. Had he stuck with the Patriots and never had to win another big game, I think the mystique would still be there. By changing teams, and if he never has to win another big game, he will be considered a Colt and not a Patriot, and might not get in.
I not sure I am explaining myself well here...I was just thinking there might be more merit sticking with the team you won three SBs with if no more clutch games come up in your future.
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I also think AV is making it sound like the Patriots didn't do right by him, when I think they did. They actually offered him a contract that would have made him the highest paid kicker in Football, it just was not a long enough term one for him. I think he loves the idea of the dome to help him in his kicking...from what I remember, he strained his back last year and I am sure the cold New England nights don't help that much.
I think the Pat Fans will still show him respect...but not like they did when he was in a Patriot uniform.A bit more of a rational post than mine but basically echoes my thoughts. Someone else said "iconhood" doesnt buy many lexuses. Vinatieri was the best paid kicker in the NFL over the course of the past 5 years. The difference is that AV thinks he is a real football player and should get his $ in a $10 million dollar signing bonus with low base salaries like TOP players in the NFL get paid. The Pats franchised him year to year and paid him his $ year to year. Ryan Longwells' contract this year is the first time I have heard of kickers getting bonus money. The Patriots decided that they are not going to play that game.
Vinatieri has made some HUGE kicks. It does not mean he has won those games. Tom Brady is the one that brought the Pats back from 10-0 against the Raiders to even put the Pats in the position to win the Raiders game.
Ty Law returning an interception for a TD and the general play of the defense had MUCH more to do with the Pats beating the Rams in the SB than Vinatieri did. Tom Brady had a pretty good game against the Panthers and had a bit more to do with the Pats winning than Vinatieri. Did Vinatieri also win the Eagles SB for the Pats? I thought it was there methodical dominance that was the key to that victory.
Bye Adam. Enjoy your time with the Colts.at those saying that AV thought he had a better chance at winning a SB with the Colts. Since when have the Colts been within a FG or 2 or making a SB never mind winning one?
The Pats are in great shape. I dont think Grammatica is that great but in the grand scheme of things, he is JUST a kicker. Not even top 20 on the Pats list of importance.By the way, I'm going to be
when Grammatica misses a crucial kick that would have been automatic for Vinitieri.
when the Colts are losing again in the first round of the playoffs 28-10 as the clock winds down and Vinitieri has to think about the totally irrelevant role he will play on that team.What is the biggest kicks that Vanderjagt missed/made in his career in Indy.
Missed
47 yard regular season kick vs. the Patriots 2004
46 yard first round of playoffs vs. Steelers 2005
Made
50+ yarder vs. Denver in the snow on Sunday night football approx 2003
Cant think of any other "big" kicks for Vanderjagt.
The perception that Vinatieri was the "missing piece" to jumpstart the Colts dynasty is just not reality.
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