All valid points, though I would argue Young's record is better than both of those guys. I certainly don't attribute all of the Titans' late season success to VY, but I won't go so far as to say that he was a non-factor either. If we simply look at divisional games before and after the bye (same opponents) they were 0-3 pre bye week with 2 of the games at home and one on the road. After VY and the bye, they went 2-1 against the same teams with 2 of the games on the road and one at home. Basically I'm saying the stats are ambiguous enough to where it can be spun however you want to look at it. What's undeniable IMO (and you'll notice my Austin origin) is that VY does have somewhat of an "IT" quality to him allowing him to win in the clutch and pull out Ws.Good catch- the games above the line were losses, the ones below were wins. I've fixed my op, thanks.Re: winning by 13 vs. losing by 13... I don't think it means that much. 2 of the 3 games they lost by 13 combined were on the road. 2 of the 3 they won by 13 combined were at home. The teams they lost to (Pitt and NYJ) were, in my opinion, better than the teams they beat (San Fran and Arizona). I think the net takeaway from it is that every game they played against average teams was a tight, single-possession affair. That suggests to me that Tennessee's true ability is right on par with those average teams that they're playing so tight.As for Young's winning percentage... it certainly can happen through happenstance. Kyle Orton is 29-19 lifetime, but he's a total afterthought, a guy that Chicago includes as a THROW-IN on a trade for Cutler. Atlanta was 39-29 in games Vick started... and 9-20 in games he missed, yet nobody on earth would call Vick a "leader". As for Young... sure, Tennessee posted an awesome won/loss split with him this last season, but as I said, a lot of that was just a fluke of scheduling. On the other hand, Tennessee had a better winning percentage last year without Young (12-3) than they did this year with Young (6-2). There really hasn't been any compelling evidence over the last 4 years that Tennessee is any better with Young, or any worse without him.I think you meant the games above the line are their losses, not wins.Regardless I see the point you're trying to make. But doesn't beating the average teams by 13pts vs losing by 13pts to the same average teams at least mean something? Young has won twice as many games as he's lost in games he's started in his NFL career, that can't just be through happenstance.