Vince Young impact on Chris Johnson (1 Viewer)

[Banger]

Let me start by saying that I'm not a VY fan and never have been (as a QB) but I think he may have a very positive impact on Chris Johnson and the running game. Ideally, it's best to have a QB under center that can pass the ball and that threat opens up the box and gives room for the RB to run. With Collins under center this year the team wasn't passing the ball well at all and defenses routinely had 8-9 in the box which that isn't going to change with VY under center. That being the case, he's still managed to rush for an eye popping 6.9 ypc and leads the league in rushing with 824 yards in only 7 games. Pretty incredible considering how bad the team is, how bad passing game has been and the fact that he is the only offensive weapon that the defense is trying to stop every time he's on the field.

What I believe will change with VY under center is how teams shadow Johnson. It's a given that Johnson has a linebacker shadowing him and obvious on every screen pass that the defense is sitting on him waiting for him to get the ball. Now I think the linebackers are going to need to think and worry about Young and his ability to scramble and it won't be clear cut decision that they can follow Johnson and forget about Young. With Johnson's speed all he needs is a tiny hesitation which causes a defender to take a bad angle and he's gone.

Even though VY won't put up great passing numbers I think he may be the best possible thing to happen the Chris Johnson owners going down the stretch. He's got a couple good matchups and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up #1 overall. Thoughts?

 

[The_Fonz]

His numbers have not been great except for 2-3 good weeks but his explosiveness makes him a threat whenever he touches the ball. I can only hope you are right but honestly VY being involved has me thinking the opposite. I initially would be more afraid of this hurting CJ's numbers but at 0-6 and with the passing game already in the toilet, how much worse could it get really? If they are far behind they will be passing all of the 2nd quarter. CJ has been the exception because he is the only good weapon they have.

 

[The_U]

Let me start by saying that I'm not a VY fan and never have been (as a QB) but I think he may have a very positive impact on Chris Johnson and the running game. Ideally, it's best to have a QB under center that can pass the ball and that threat opens up the box and gives room for the RB to run. With Collins under center this year the team wasn't passing the ball well at all and defenses routinely had 8-9 in the box which that isn't going to change with VY under center. That being the case, he's still managed to rush for an eye popping 6.9 ypc and leads the league in rushing with 824 yards in only 7 games. Pretty incredible considering how bad the team is, how bad passing game has been and the fact that he is the only offensive weapon that the defense is trying to stop every time he's on the field.What I believe will change with VY under center is how teams shadow Johnson. It's a given that Johnson has a linebacker shadowing him and obvious on every screen pass that the defense is sitting on him waiting for him to get the ball. Now I think the linebackers are going to need to think and worry about Young and his ability to scramble and it won't be clear cut decision that they can follow Johnson and forget about Young. With Johnson's speed all he needs is a tiny hesitation which causes a defender to take a bad angle and he's gone. Even though VY won't put up great passing numbers I think he may be the best possible thing to happen the Chris Johnson owners going down the stretch. He's got a couple good matchups and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up #1 overall. Thoughts?

I've wondered this same thing and while I'm not prepared to suggest CJ is now in the clear with Collins out of the mix, I think you are likely on to something here. Vince still needs to hit his targets here and there though to keep the heat turned down.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

A lot depends on the play calling. With VY in there they should be running a TON of plays with a sweep action one way, and bootleg action the other way. That would REALLY keep LBs and Safeties honest in the middle of the field.

 

[Todem]

I always felt with VY under center that CJ3 would be beastly becuase of the spy they would have to commit to VY....I think we will see many more long distance TD's....from what is IMO the most explosive RB in the league not named ADP.

 

[Todem]

I always felt with VY under center that CJ3 would be beastly because of the spy they would have to commit to VY....I think we will see many more long distance TD's....from what is IMO the most explosive RB in the league not named ADP.

 

[Banger]

ADP has 8 20+ yard runs through 8 games (164 carries) : 21, 22, 26, 27, 33, 35, 58, 64.

CJ has 10 20+ yard runs through 7 games (119 carries): 20, 22, 30, 32, 40, 48, 52, 57, 89, 91.

The Vikes run possibly the most balanced offense in the league while the Titans are one of the most imbalanced offenses in the league. I still find it hard to believe that people underestimate how good he is.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Let me start by saying that I'm not a VY fan and never have been (as a QB) but I think he may have a very positive impact on Chris Johnson and the running game. Ideally, it's best to have a QB under center that can pass the ball and that threat opens up the box and gives room for the RB to run. With Collins under center this year the team wasn't passing the ball well at all and defenses routinely had 8-9 in the box which that isn't going to change with VY under center. That being the case, he's still managed to rush for an eye popping 6.9 ypc and leads the league in rushing with 824 yards in only 7 games. Pretty incredible considering how bad the team is, how bad passing game has been and the fact that he is the only offensive weapon that the defense is trying to stop every time he's on the field.What I believe will change with VY under center is how teams shadow Johnson. It's a given that Johnson has a linebacker shadowing him and obvious on every screen pass that the defense is sitting on him waiting for him to get the ball. Now I think the linebackers are going to need to think and worry about Young and his ability to scramble and it won't be clear cut decision that they can follow Johnson and forget about Young. With Johnson's speed all he needs is a tiny hesitation which causes a defender to take a bad angle and he's gone. Even though VY won't put up great passing numbers I think he may be the best possible thing to happen the Chris Johnson owners going down the stretch. He's got a couple good matchups and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up #1 overall. Thoughts?

I thought this would happen, but of course I didn't see a record-setting career day in their first full game together. What you said about the shadowing is exactly right. During VY's rookie year, he ran pretty much wild. The next year, teams started to shadow him because they didn't respect his passing ability or any of the other offensive threats on the Titans offense. It worked. They took away the Titans' biggest offensive threat at the time - Young's running ability.Now the Titans have CJ, so now it's not so simple. Pay too much attn to one, and the other can make you pay. VY also appears to have improved his passing game. Time will tell more about this, but so far, so good. I've seen some people making the argument that CJ's running opened things up for VY and the passing game the other day. VY had thrown for 13-15 and a TD with several nice scrambles for first downs before the 52 yard TD run by CJ that began his 9-165-2 onslaught that ended in 24-228-2 for the day. It looks to me like CJ helped VY in the first half, and VY was having a field day, completing anything he tried and extending drives with key runs for first downs. CJ was kinda held in check in the first half. When the D decided to tighten up on VY, Dinger started calling the right plays for CJ and he went off. I'm not saying CJ doesn't open things up for VY. He does. I just think VY opens things up for CJ, too. It's complimentary.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Let me start by saying that I'm not a VY fan and never have been (as a QB) but I think he may have a very positive impact on Chris Johnson and the running game. Ideally, it's best to have a QB under center that can pass the ball and that threat opens up the box and gives room for the RB to run. With Collins under center this year the team wasn't passing the ball well at all and defenses routinely had 8-9 in the box which that isn't going to change with VY under center. That being the case, he's still managed to rush for an eye popping 6.9 ypc and leads the league in rushing with 824 yards in only 7 games. Pretty incredible considering how bad the team is, how bad passing game has been and the fact that he is the only offensive weapon that the defense is trying to stop every time he's on the field.

What I believe will change with VY under center is how teams shadow Johnson. It's a given that Johnson has a linebacker shadowing him and obvious on every screen pass that the defense is sitting on him waiting for him to get the ball. Now I think the linebackers are going to need to think and worry about Young and his ability to scramble and it won't be clear cut decision that they can follow Johnson and forget about Young. With Johnson's speed all he needs is a tiny hesitation which causes a defender to take a bad angle and he's gone.

Even though VY won't put up great passing numbers I think he may be the best possible thing to happen the Chris Johnson owners going down the stretch. He's got a couple good matchups and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up #1 overall. Thoughts?

I've wondered this same thing and while I'm not prepared to suggest CJ is now in the clear with Collins out of the mix, I think you are likely on to something here. Vince still needs to hit his targets here and there though to keep the heat turned down.

3 incompletions Sunday.

 

[The_Fonz]

ADP has 8 20+ yard runs through 8 games (164 carries) : 21, 22, 26, 27, 33, 35, 58, 64.

CJ has 10 20+ yard runs through 7 games (119 carries): 20, 22, 30, 32, 40, 48, 52, 57, 89, 91.

The Vikes run possibly the most balanced offense in the league while the Titans are one of the most imbalanced offenses in the league. I still find it hard to believe that people underestimate how good he is.

I did tons of mock drafts, every one of them had him gone in the first 6 picks. I was shocked to see my entire league underestimated him. 6th pick of 3rd round. Best bargain in our draft. I think this year a lot of people thought Lendale would cut into his touches but the opposite has happened. He is a very exciting player to watch.

 

[strong]

it's easier for teams to run with athletic quarterbacks--at least one of the linebackers must react a little slower to the handoff in case it's a playaction and the lb needs to shadow the qb.

the titans were one of the best running teams in the nfl with vince young under center--lendale white and travis henry were beyond serviceable. the falcons had no problems running with vick, dunn, and duckett.

i think it's fair to expect more big games from chris johnson--at least more than one every four games--but i'm not sure how much better their offense as a whole will be. with their subpar secondary, i expect young will have to play from behind a few times this year, and the results may not be pretty.

 

[MCguidance]

ADP has 8 20+ yard runs through 8 games (164 carries) : 21, 22, 26, 27, 33, 35, 58, 64.

CJ has 10 20+ yard runs through 7 games (119 carries): 20, 22, 30, 32, 40, 48, 52, 57, 89, 91.

The Vikes run possibly the most balanced offense in the league while the Titans are one of the most imbalanced offenses in the league. I still find it hard to believe that people underestimate how good he is.

I did tons of mock drafts, every one of them had him gone in the first 6 picks. I was shocked to see my entire league underestimated him. 6th pick of 3rd round. Best bargain in our draft. I think this year a lot of people thought Lendale would cut into his touches but the opposite has happened. He is a very exciting player to watch.

Who did YOU take that he lasted that long??

 

[NeverEnough]

I see VY helping CJ. That said, CJ still remains my RB3 (start 2) behind Robie & MJD. Tough call for me to sit him in favor of Ronnie this week, though.

 

[two_dollars]

I think VY is junk and doesn't help deter from CJ at all. If I'm a DC I'm still stopping CJ and forcing VY to beat me. And I'd be willing to bet 10 out of 10 times he won't.

 

[strong]

I think VY is junk and doesn't help deter from CJ at all. If I'm a DC I'm still stopping CJ and forcing VY to beat me. And I'd be willing to bet 10 out of 10 times he won't.

junk or not, having young in there will help the running game. they may not score more points, but they'll gain more yards on the ground.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

CJ's first 6 games:

rush: 95-596-2, 6.2 ypc, 99.33 ypg

rec: 16-126-1, 7.8 avg

tot: 111-722-3, 6.5 ypc, 0.5 td/g

last 2 games:

rush: 49-363-4, 7.4 ypc, 181.5 ypg

rec: 5-36-0, 7.4 avg

tot: 54-399-4, 7.4 ypc, 2.0 td/g

 

[Chaka]

I think VY is junk and doesn't help deter from CJ at all. If I'm a DC I'm still stopping CJ and forcing VY to beat me. And I'd be willing to bet 10 out of 10 times he won't.

0 for 2 so far.

 

[FUBAR]

CJ's first 6 games:rush: 95-596-2, 6.2 ypc, 99.33 ypgrec: 16-126-1, 7.8 avgtot: 111-722-3, 6.5 ypc, 0.5 td/glast 2 games:rush: 49-363-4, 7.4 ypc, 181.5 ypgrec: 5-36-0, 7.4 avgtot: 54-399-4, 7.4 ypc, 2.0 td/g

and don't forget - San Fran has the 5th best run D in the NFL.

 

[Banger]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY

The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY :( The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

I believe he can hit 2,000 yds rushing, I really do Banger. I'm gonna talk about it this week in the thread but I said just this past week that Johnson was getting ready to go on a tear...no RB has really been that head and shoulders over everybody else...it's not like 1 RB is on pace to beat the field by 200 or anything. That's probalby good for balance in most FF leagues but I see Johnson having a chance to be the #1 RB in football down the stretch and here is why. 1. He is clearly the offense...ALL OF IT!!! Their best chance even if the other team knows it is coming is to try and get Chris Johnson about 18-22 carries and a few catches...seriously they need him to touch the ball 25 times. He could wear down but he is so fast that he really doesn't take quite the punishment that others do, however any RB will wear down with that type of involvement. 2. They have nothing to lose by exploiting him at this point. Vince Young is just managing the game and trying to keep defenses honest so they can turn Johnson loose. 3. The schedule is pretty soft the rest of the way. A few decent run defenses but they are finding their groove in the running game. Johnson has to avg about 120-140 a game the rest of the way and I figure he will likely hit 200 yds rushing a couple more times this season so that would put him at about 1,400 yds and then he only needs about 100 from the other 6 games. He certainly is on a collision course for over 2,000 total yds and probably about 15-18 TDs with the recent surge.

 

[Banger]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

I believe he can hit 2,000 yds rushing, I really do Banger. I'm gonna talk about it this week in the thread but I said just this past week that Johnson was getting ready to go on a tear...no RB has really been that head and shoulders over everybody else...it's not like 1 RB is on pace to beat the field by 200 or anything. That's probalby good for balance in most FF leagues but I see Johnson having a chance to be the #1 RB in football down the stretch and here is why. 1. He is clearly the offense...ALL OF IT!!! Their best chance even if the other team knows it is coming is to try and get Chris Johnson about 18-22 carries and a few catches...seriously they need him to touch the ball 25 times. He could wear down but he is so fast that he really doesn't take quite the punishment that others do, however any RB will wear down with that type of involvement. 2. They have nothing to lose by exploiting him at this point. Vince Young is just managing the game and trying to keep defenses honest so they can turn Johnson loose. 3. The schedule is pretty soft the rest of the way. A few decent run defenses but they are finding their groove in the running game. Johnson has to avg about 120-140 a game the rest of the way and I figure he will likely hit 200 yds rushing a couple more times this season so that would put him at about 1,400 yds and then he only needs about 100 from the other 6 games. He certainly is on a collision course for over 2,000 total yds and probably about 15-18 TDs with the recent surge.

I agree about the yardage. I laughed when people were throwing dirt on his grave with some of the threads early in the year when he had some low yardage games vs. some tough defenses. Your TD numbers are probably high but the only thing that kept him from probably being the #1 RB last year was the fact that White vultured 15 tds. If they aren't going to use him in that role any longer CJ will be fantasy gold down the stretch. White is moving on after this season so maybe they are trying to see what life after White will be like and letting Johnson score his own tds.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

I believe he can hit 2,000 yds rushing, I really do Banger. I'm gonna talk about it this week in the thread but I said just this past week that Johnson was getting ready to go on a tear...no RB has really been that head and shoulders over everybody else...it's not like 1 RB is on pace to beat the field by 200 or anything. That's probalby good for balance in most FF leagues but I see Johnson having a chance to be the #1 RB in football down the stretch and here is why. 1. He is clearly the offense...ALL OF IT!!! Their best chance even if the other team knows it is coming is to try and get Chris Johnson about 18-22 carries and a few catches...seriously they need him to touch the ball 25 times. He could wear down but he is so fast that he really doesn't take quite the punishment that others do, however any RB will wear down with that type of involvement. 2. They have nothing to lose by exploiting him at this point. Vince Young is just managing the game and trying to keep defenses honest so they can turn Johnson loose. 3. The schedule is pretty soft the rest of the way. A few decent run defenses but they are finding their groove in the running game. Johnson has to avg about 120-140 a game the rest of the way and I figure he will likely hit 200 yds rushing a couple more times this season so that would put him at about 1,400 yds and then he only needs about 100 from the other 6 games. He certainly is on a collision course for over 2,000 total yds and probably about 15-18 TDs with the recent surge.

I agree about the yardage. I laughed when people were throwing dirt on his grave with some of the threads early in the year when he had some low yardage games vs. some tough defenses. Your TD numbers are probably high but the only thing that kept him from probably being the #1 RB last year was the fact that White vultured 15 tds. If they aren't going to use him in that role any longer CJ will be fantasy gold down the stretch. White is moving on after this season so maybe they are trying to see what life after White will be like and letting Johnson score his own tds.

Johnson had 25 carries yesterday...did White have maybe 5? And LenDale was not used as much in the red zone...they tried but he couldn't punch it in, then CJ got the TD on the same drive where he was called out at the 40.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

They actually brought in LenDale to try and punch it in from about the 2. He failed...because he sucks....big time. They subsequently brought in Johnson, who scored on an outside pitch and run.The "smash and dash" days are over. Thank God! That fat clown kept CJ from being a top 3 player last season.

 

[Banger]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

They actually brought in LenDale to try and punch it in from about the 2. He failed...because he sucks....big time. They subsequently brought in Johnson, who scored on an outside pitch and run.The "smash and dash" days are over. Thank God! That fat clown kept CJ from being a top 3 player last season.

Agreed. I saw that they brought in White and he got stuffed and then they gave it CJ on 4th down and 1 on that pitch that was blown up by the defense and Johnson made a run that few could make to avoid the tackler and get it into the end zone. It was a terrific play.

 

[The_Fonz]

ADP has 8 20+ yard runs through 8 games (164 carries) : 21, 22, 26, 27, 33, 35, 58, 64.

CJ has 10 20+ yard runs through 7 games (119 carries): 20, 22, 30, 32, 40, 48, 52, 57, 89, 91.

The Vikes run possibly the most balanced offense in the league while the Titans are one of the most imbalanced offenses in the league. I still find it hard to believe that people underestimate how good he is.

I did tons of mock drafts, every one of them had him gone in the first 6 picks. I was shocked to see my entire league underestimated him. 6th pick of 3rd round. Best bargain in our draft. I think this year a lot of people thought Lendale would cut into his touches but the opposite has happened. He is a very exciting player to watch.

Who did YOU take that he lasted that long??

I was 6th. Picked Brees 1st and wayne 2nd. was thrilled to see him still there!

 

[lemmi]

Johnson had 25 carries yesterday...did White have maybe 5? And LenDale was not used as much in the red zone...they tried but he couldn't punch it in, then CJ got the TD on the same drive where he was called out at the 40.

4 carries for 3 yds and a long of 2. Plus, as was mentioned, he got stuffed at the 2 on the same drive that CJ was pushed out of bounds on.

 

[PahtyTom]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

They actually brought in LenDale to try and punch it in from about the 2. He failed...because he sucks....big time. They subsequently brought in Johnson, who scored on an outside pitch and run.The "smash and dash" days are over. Thank God! That fat clown kept CJ from being a top 3 player last season.

Agreed. I saw that they brought in White and he got stuffed and then they gave it CJ on 4th down and 1 on that pitch that was blown up by the defense and Johnson made a run that few could make to avoid the tackler and get it into the end zone. It was a terrific play.

How he ran to the sideline at full speed, shook a tackler while simultaneously stopping on a dime to tight rope into the end zone was mind boggling He's like the Randy Moss of running backs, total freak

 

[MCguidance]

ADP has 8 20+ yard runs through 8 games (164 carries) : 21, 22, 26, 27, 33, 35, 58, 64.

CJ has 10 20+ yard runs through 7 games (119 carries): 20, 22, 30, 32, 40, 48, 52, 57, 89, 91.

The Vikes run possibly the most balanced offense in the league while the Titans are one of the most imbalanced offenses in the league. I still find it hard to believe that people underestimate how good he is.

I did tons of mock drafts, every one of them had him gone in the first 6 picks. I was shocked to see my entire league underestimated him. 6th pick of 3rd round. Best bargain in our draft. I think this year a lot of people thought Lendale would cut into his touches but the opposite has happened. He is a very exciting player to watch.

Who did YOU take that he lasted that long??

I was 6th. Picked Brees 1st and wayne 2nd. was thrilled to see him still there!

Can't complain there. So you started Brees, Wayne, Chris Johnson? Hell of a start

 

[SCT]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...nson-highlights

 

[Ministry of Pain]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...nson-highlights

The best part of the day was the run where he was called out at about the 40 after he already gained close to 50...the color commentator as soon as he hit the hole says "Uh Oh"...that's the kind of stuff you might have seen when LT or Priest were in their prime and an announcer could see the TD coming a mile away, just incredible what he has done the past couple weeks. I have never seen a guy that was this fast and could actually outrun everyone. I know he has some limitations in his vision but he has the ability to find cutback lanes and if he is given any space it's 28 out the gate, holy buckets they don't touch this guy till he's long gone.

I still don't think he is a household name.

 

[The_Fonz]

ADP has 8 20+ yard runs through 8 games (164 carries) : 21, 22, 26, 27, 33, 35, 58, 64.

CJ has 10 20+ yard runs through 7 games (119 carries): 20, 22, 30, 32, 40, 48, 52, 57, 89, 91.

The Vikes run possibly the most balanced offense in the league while the Titans are one of the most imbalanced offenses in the league. I still find it hard to believe that people underestimate how good he is.

I did tons of mock drafts, every one of them had him gone in the first 6 picks. I was shocked to see my entire league underestimated him. 6th pick of 3rd round. Best bargain in our draft. I think this year a lot of people thought Lendale would cut into his touches but the opposite has happened. He is a very exciting player to watch.

Who did YOU take that he lasted that long??

I was 6th. Picked Brees 1st and wayne 2nd. was thrilled to see him still there!

Can't complain there. So you started Brees, Wayne, Chris Johnson? Hell of a start

Best record in the league so far and top in points total. Every year I tend to start strong and melt down at the end.....here's hoping for a break in that trend this year. Love me some CJ!

 

[Keepers]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

They actually brought in LenDale to try and punch it in from about the 2. He failed...because he sucks....big time. They subsequently brought in Johnson, who scored on an outside pitch and run.The "smash and dash" days are over. Thank God! That fat clown kept CJ from being a top 3 player last season.

Agreed. I saw that they brought in White and he got stuffed and then they gave it CJ on 4th down and 1 on that pitch that was blown up by the defense and Johnson made a run that few could make to avoid the tackler and get it into the end zone. It was a terrific play.

How he ran to the sideline at full speed, shook a tackler while simultaneously stopping on a dime to tight rope into the end zone was mind boggling He's like the Randy Moss of running backs, total freak

On 4th down, I thought it was at terrible call, if it got stuffed Fisher and staff would be taking heat for it. Johnson saved their bacon with a terrific play.

 

[Banger]

Another day at the office for CJ against the #5 rush defense....25-135-2/3-25. For those that didn't watch the game, Johnson scored on a long 81 yard TD in the 4th that was called a TD but upon review he was just bumped just enough that his toe touched the line. He was credited with a 41 yard run. Right now he's on pace for 1900+ rushing yards with the worst rush defense in the league up next. I love VY The best thing to come out of yesterday for Johnson owners was that he scored on short 1 and 2 yard TDs so it's possible the Lendale the vulture may be parked on the bench.

They actually brought in LenDale to try and punch it in from about the 2. He failed...because he sucks....big time. They subsequently brought in Johnson, who scored on an outside pitch and run.The "smash and dash" days are over. Thank God! That fat clown kept CJ from being a top 3 player last season.

Agreed. I saw that they brought in White and he got stuffed and then they gave it CJ on 4th down and 1 on that pitch that was blown up by the defense and Johnson made a run that few could make to avoid the tackler and get it into the end zone. It was a terrific play.

How he ran to the sideline at full speed, shook a tackler while simultaneously stopping on a dime to tight rope into the end zone was mind boggling He's like the Randy Moss of running backs, total freak

On 4th down, I thought it was at terrible call, if it got stuffed Fisher and staff would be taking heat for it. Johnson saved their bacon with a terrific play.

ya, that was ALL individual effort and I agree was not a great call on a 4th and 1.

 

[fantasizing]

If I'm not mistaken, they were down by 3 at the time. A chip shot field goal to tie the game. Instead, Fischer might be thinking: we've got nothing to lose at 1-6, might as well go for it.

 

[FavreCo]

Vince Young's impact on Justin Gage: broken bones in his back. Good job Vinnie. Nice pass.

Gage suffered the injury while landing after making a leaping 33-yard reception on the decisive drive against the San Francisco 49ers in Sunday’s 34-27 victory.

“Justin Gage has multiple fractures of the transverse process bones. It’s just a matter of healing. He is unlikely to play this week,” Titans coach Jeff Fisher said. “He is getting better. Things have to settle down. He is obviously very uncomfortable.”

The injury is similar to one suffered by former Titans linebacker Peter Sirmon in 2003. Sirmon wound up missing two games when he had the injury.

In layman’s terms, those are the bones that stick out on the left and right side of the spinal cord.

 

[gpthatsme]

That block Vince just threw certainly helped CJ. Man, he cracked that dude...

 

[PahtyTom]

How bout the impact CJ is having on VY? WRs running free across the middle all day. 1 on 1 everywhere deep. Teams are really having trouble with these 2 in the backfield.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

How bout the impact CJ is having on VY? WRs running free across the middle all day. 1 on 1 everywhere deep. Teams are really having trouble with these 2 in the backfield.

It's a complimentary relationship. they both help each other. I said when I found out VY was gonna start that I had been waiting a long time to see these two in the same backfield, and this is why. Shades of the dilemma the Texas offense put D's under when VY was there.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Vince Young's impact on Justin Gage: broken bones in his back. Good job Vinnie. Nice pass.

Gage suffered the injury while landing after making a leaping 33-yard reception on the decisive drive against the San Francisco 49ers in Sunday’s 34-27 victory.

“Justin Gage has multiple fractures of the transverse process bones. It’s just a matter of healing. He is unlikely to play this week,” Titans coach Jeff Fisher said. “He is getting better. Things have to settle down. He is obviously very uncomfortable.”

The injury is similar to one suffered by former Titans linebacker Peter Sirmon in 2003. Sirmon wound up missing two games when he had the injury.

In layman’s terms, those are the bones that stick out on the left and right side of the spinal cord.

Seriously?He threw that ball 40+ yards. Was it perfect? No. Was it catchable? Well, he went up and caught it.

Your boy Favre threw a thousand balls just like that one. There's nothing wrong with that throw. WRs have to make plays sometimes. He just landed in a bad way.

You reach a LOT, but this is one of your worst.

VY is playing great in his comeback. You're obviously desperate to criticise him.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Vince Young, Chris Johnson and Jared Cook could give the OC a lot of speed for nontraditional plays out of different spots on the field. A creative play designer/caller could have a lot of fun with those three in future years. Hope it works out for VY and I hope we see something interesting next year offensively from the Titans that includes the talents of these three.

I am not a big VY believer in a traditional passing attack. I think it will take something different that is based on his skills to get him to maximize his potential.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

CJ:

3 TD first 6 games

6 TD last 3 games

 

[FavreCo]

Seriously?He threw that ball 40+ yards. Was it perfect? No. Was it catchable? Well, he went up and caught it. Your boy Favre threw a thousand balls just like that one. There's nothing wrong with that throw. WRs have to make plays sometimes. He just landed in a bad way.You reach a LOT, but this is one of your worst.VY is playing great in his comeback. You're obviously desperate to criticise him.

My 'boy' Favre, was my FF QB for 17 years and 4 chamiponships. Championships that would not have happened with a 10 YD a year bum like Vinnie. Vinnie is a hack. He's got a little run going against sub-500 teams. Now comes 3 high powered 'O's in Houston, Arizona and Indy. You know what's coming. Enjoy it while you can. I feel sorry for Fisher and the rest of the Titans, having zero chance of ever seeing a Super Bowl caliber team with Vinnie at the helm.

 

[Chaka]

I think VY is junk and doesn't help deter from CJ at all. If I'm a DC I'm still stopping CJ and forcing VY to beat me. And I'd be willing to bet 10 out of 10 times he won't.

0 for 2 so far.

0-3

 

[FUBAR]

Seriously?

He threw that ball 40+ yards. Was it perfect? No. Was it catchable? Well, he went up and caught it.

Your boy Favre threw a thousand balls just like that one. There's nothing wrong with that throw. WRs have to make plays sometimes. He just landed in a bad way.

You reach a LOT, but this is one of your worst.

VY is playing great in his comeback. You're obviously desperate to criticise him.

My 'boy' Favre, was my FF QB for 17 years and 4 chamiponships. Championships that would not have happened with a 10 YD a year bum like Vinnie. Vinnie is a hack. He's got a little run going against sub-500 teams. Now comes 3 high powered 'O's in Houston, Arizona and Indy. You know what's coming. Enjoy it while you can. I feel sorry for Fisher and the rest of the Titans, having zero chance of ever seeing a Super Bowl caliber team with Vinnie at the helm.

How exactly do you think the high-powered Offenses will impact VY? If anything, they'll run CJ more and have VY run as well to attempt to control the clock. Don't be surprised if the Titans go 2-1 over the next 3 games. I'll give Indy the advantage but it will be close.

 

[Keepers]

Seriously?He threw that ball 40+ yards. Was it perfect? No. Was it catchable? Well, he went up and caught it. Your boy Favre threw a thousand balls just like that one. There's nothing wrong with that throw. WRs have to make plays sometimes. He just landed in a bad way.You reach a LOT, but this is one of your worst.VY is playing great in his comeback. You're obviously desperate to criticise him.

My 'boy' Favre, was my FF QB for 17 years and 4 chamiponships. Championships that would not have happened with a 10 YD a year bum like Vinnie. Vinnie is a hack. He's got a little run going against sub-500 teams. Now comes 3 high powered 'O's in Houston, Arizona and Indy. You know what's coming. Enjoy it while you can. I feel sorry for Fisher and the rest of the Titans, having zero chance of ever seeing a Super Bowl caliber team with Vinnie at the helm.

Good for you I guess, but I am confused as to how Favre winning you 4 championships in 17 years has any bearing on hairy scotsman's observation about your stupid comment.

 

[FavreCo]

How exactly do you think the high-powered Offenses will impact VY? If anything, they'll run CJ more and have VY run as well to attempt to control the clock. Don't be surprised if the Titans go 2-1 over the next 3 games. I'll give Indy the advantage but it will be close.

Because he doesn't have the ability to hang with the other QB's. He will REQUIRE Chris Johnson to have huge games for the Titans to compete. Vince Young is not a threat. Chris Johnson is. (and yes, I was wrong about Johnson).

 

[Banger]

A quick recap since I started this thread a few weeks back....

Johnson has produced....

24-228-2/2-11

25-1352/3-25

26-132-2/9-100

So Johnson has AVERAGED 210 yards 2 tds and nearly 30 touches a game. I VY. I think the two of them are a match made in fantasy heaven.

 

[Banger]

How exactly do you think the high-powered Offenses will impact VY? If anything, they'll run CJ more and have VY run as well to attempt to control the clock. Don't be surprised if the Titans go 2-1 over the next 3 games. I'll give Indy the advantage but it will be close.

Because he doesn't have the ability to hang with the other QB's. He will REQUIRE Chris Johnson to have huge games for the Titans to compete. Vince Young is not a threat. Chris Johnson is. (and yes, I was wrong about Johnson).

That's where you are wrong. VY is a threat and teams do need to worry about him. I don't think it's a coincidence that Johnson has exploded since VY is the QB. Teams can't just worry about Johnson. Believe me I am by no means a VY supporter and never have been as I don't think he's a good QB (in a throwing sense - although he's looked better this year). He is though an incredible threat to run and although you may not think that's a big deal, it is to a defense that needs to stop him. Now with some of these option type of plays they are calling, they are forcing defenses to stay honest and even though Johnson is facing 9 in the box each and every down, that moments hesitation is all he needs to get around the corner. He's that good.When Collins dropped back all the needed to was blanket Johnson and cover up the wr's with single coverage and there was no threat that Collins would move 3 feet outside the pocket. With Young you have to respect his legs when he drops back.

 

[drfeelgood]

Vince Young's impact on Justin Gage: broken bones in his back. Good job Vinnie. Nice pass.

Do you think Boldin blamed Warner for getting hurt in the Jets game last year, whenever he got hammered in the head between defenders on a Warner pass?

 

[ceo3west]

A quick recap since I started this thread a few weeks back....

Johnson has produced....

24-228-2/2-11

25-1352/3-25

26-132-2/9-100

So Johnson has AVERAGED 210 yards 2 tds and nearly 30 touches a game. I VY. I think the two of them are a match made in fantasy heaven.

Don't take all of the credit, Banger