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Its a trick ?.Superman never played football.
Vince Young = Randall CunninghamJay Cutler = Jim KellyM. Lienhart = Carson Palmer
So none of the 3 QBs will be a bust?
That was my first thought. He'll probably be somewhere in beween Vick & Culpepper. Better accuracy than Vick, but better runner that Culpepper.
Physically, that's probably the best comparison.Leadership / composure, VY = Favre Coincidently, Leinart reminds me of Tom Brady. Bigger, but from what I've seen, comparable attributes.
Please name 2 or 3 qbs that are white that have half of the athletic ability that Vince Young has. There is none. THis thread is not racially motivated. Merely stating that Vince Young reminds me of a young Randall Cunningham.
Steve Young, John Elway, and Fran Tarkenton down?
Please the three guys you named above are better QB's but have nothing when comparing atheltic ability to Vince Young.
I kind of like my Brooks / Favre comparison.
Gotta be Culpepper. He was no slouch running the ball for a few years. The knee may keep him from running like that ever again.Jayrod said:Oscar Goldman said:
Ok Young reminds me of Drew Bledsoe will play just good enough to lose.Jay Cutler reminds me of Warren MoonLeinart will be the next James Harris
These guys ARE perhaps the most athletic white players (Edit: QBs)... and good ones in their own right, but none have near the same strength and speed as Young.
Steve Young was an extremely athletic QB, easily the equal of the others mentioned here in that aspect of his game.
The guys I named *BECAME* better QBs, but they weren't when they were first drafted. And I really think you're underrating their athletic ability just because they were white. John Elway, in particular- all of his measurables were THROUGH THE ROOF. If everyone put every single rookie in NFL history into a pool and a bunch of GMs drafted them all again (with no knowledge of how they'd turn out as pros), it's widely believed that Elway would be the #1 overall pick. He's the most highly regarded QB prospect to ever enter the NFL. No one has ever combined such phenominal intangibles with such phenominal measureables.Now, Vince Young might be a better athlete now than John Elway was as a rookie, but the entire NFL has gotten more athletic. I don't think it's a stretch to say that Vince Young is actually probably more athletic than Jim Brown was. The key point here is athletecism in relation to one's peers- and at the time, I think that Elway was more athletic in comparison to the rest of the NFL than Vince Young currently is.
Elway's highest rushing total was 304 yards on 66 attempts; hardly the stuff of the other athletic QBs being discussed here.
The rushing numbers may not have been eyepopping, but that doesn't mean he was lacking in athleticism. Tarkenton's highest rushing total was 376 yards on 62 carries.Edit: Besides, why is running the only measure of athleticism?
Tarkenton played in a completely different era, but even so, I wouldn't compare him in athleticism to either Steve Young or Vince Young. He'd probably compare favorably to John Elway.Do you have a different measure of athleticism you'd like to use?
I would've actually gusesed that Brunell's 5 best seasons rushing were better than any of Elways single seasons.Granted runnnig the ball isn't the only form of athletisim, I'm sure people were speaking of Youngs legs when they were referring to his athletisim. His arm strength is comparable with all those previously mentioned.
Ding Ding Ding...winner.From 1995 to 1999, Mark Brunell averaged per 16 games...291 for 483 (60%) for 7.13 per attempt (3,446 per 16 games)20 TDs to 11 Ints57 rushes for 300 yards a couple TDs a year.So, put me down for...Low-side: Mark BrunellTitans' fan crossing fingers High-side: Steve Young
Who was that aimed at? I said V. Young is like Daunte Culpepper because he is big, mobile and has a strong arm. Had nothing to do with race
Ah...the OP says CURRENT QB, Unless there is some big news I haven't heard those three guys are retired
It was aimed at the football commenting community as a whole - I hear 20 McNair, Culpepper, Cunningham comparisons for every comparison to Brunell, Elway, Staubach, etc. I could write a book on how dis-similar Vince Young is when compared to Michael Vick, but those comparisons keep popping up. How come nobody compares Young's game to Alex Smith? The evidence we have (i.e. winning a lot in college) show very similar styles and ability.Colin
I would say Matt Jones before I said Alex Smith.
On those stats, possibly, but do you see VY getting sacked as often?
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