Vince Young refusing to throw at the combine? (1 Viewer)

[gman8343]

Just heard on ESPN radio that Vince Young is refusing to throw at the combine. If this is true, wouldn't it be a huge mistake on his part?

They were saying scouts want to see him perform some NFL throws -- as he lived out of the shotgun at Texas.

Has he proved that he's a top 3 pick already? There's tons of people who don't think so yet, so what does he have to gain by skipping the combine, unless he fears he may not have the skills to make it in the NFL?

 

[BoulderBob]

Weak..guess he doesn't want to showcase his patented duck-ball.

 

[Rev]

Vince could very well be a top 3 or 5 pick right now, so he probably figures that he has no where to go but down by participating in the combine... and dropping out of the top 5 would definately cost him lots of money in the long run.

I do think that it's chicken poop. I say get your butt out there and show what you can (or can't) do, man. You can't hide forever.

 

[Texasmouth]

Well, just so everyone knows, he isn't the first or last guy to do this. Some guys dont even go to the combine. Almost every big name player skips some aspects of the combine. I don't think Lienart is even going to the combine.

Young is still going to have a private workout and he is still going to have a pro day. He will throw plenty at those.

I do agree that it is a little weak for him not to do this.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Almost every big name player skips some aspects of the combine.

Do you feel that passing is an important aspect of the combine for a qb?

 

[Kleck.]

This it not uncommon for a top QB to make the decision not to throw at the combine.

 

[helix]

I could understand not lifting or running the 40, but for a QB not to throw is pathetic. Young should not even go then. Hopefully he can impress at his pro day.

 

[Texasmouth]

This it not uncommon for a top QB to make the decision not to throw at the combine.

Right, a lot of QB don't throw at the combine. People are only making a big deal out of it because they want to slam on Vince Young. Plain and simple. Young's strengths aren't standing in one spot and throwing really hard. There is a guy on my flag football team that can do that. His strengths are his decision making and his ability to make plays out of nothing. He will throw plenty in his private workout and at his pro day.

 

[mydixie]

Last week I heard an interview with Young in which he said he would not run. He said "everyone knows how I run, I need to show them how I throw." This was either on sirius or fox, not sure. Is it possible that the four letter network got this wrong.

 

[Kleck.]

Almost every big name player skips some aspects of the combine.

Do you feel that passing is an important aspect of the combine for a qb?

Not for the top rated QB's. That is what their private workout is for.

 

[bagger.]

This it not uncommon for a top QB to make the decision not to throw at the combine.

It's uncommon for a top QB who has a major question mark about whether he can pass in the NFL system.Nobody runs the option spread in the NFL. Young is covering up what everyone who has seen VY knows: he cannot throw the ball taking dropbacks and hit WRs on medium/deep routes on a consistant basis.

 

[bagger.]

This it not uncommon for a top QB to make the decision not to throw at the combine.

Right, a lot of QB don't throw at the combine. People are only making a big deal out of it because they want to slam on Vince Young. Plain and simple. Young's strengths aren't standing in one spot and throwing really hard. There is a guy on my flag football team that can do that. His strengths are his decision making and his ability to make plays out of nothing. He will throw plenty in his private workout and at his pro day.

easy homer

 

[Texasmouth]

This it not uncommon for a top QB to make the decision not to throw at the combine.

It's uncommon for a top QB who has a major question mark about whether he can pass in the NFL system.Nobody runs the option spread in the NFL. Young is covering up what everyone who has seen VY knows: he cannot throw the ball taking dropbacks and hit WRs on medium/deep routes on a consistant basis.

Give me a break.

 

[BigTex]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

 

[bagger.]

This it not uncommon for a top QB to make the decision not to throw at the combine.

It's uncommon for a top QB who has a major question mark about whether he can pass in the NFL system.Nobody runs the option spread in the NFL. Young is covering up what everyone who has seen VY knows: he cannot throw the ball taking dropbacks and hit WRs on medium/deep routes on a consistant basis.

Give me a break.

So you're saying that they do run the option spread in the NFL?

 

[bagger.]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

 

[Texasmouth]

This it not uncommon for a top QB to make the decision not to throw at the combine.

Right, a lot of QB don't throw at the combine. People are only making a big deal out of it because they want to slam on Vince Young. Plain and simple. Young's strengths aren't standing in one spot and throwing really hard. There is a guy on my flag football team that can do that. His strengths are his decision making and his ability to make plays out of nothing. He will throw plenty in his private workout and at his pro day.

easy homer

Well, maybe I am being a homer but all I heard all season was how over rated Vince Young and Texas were. All I heard was how Ohio State was going to roll Texas.....no one beats OSU in their stadium at night.....blah blah, Vince Young went in and ripped them apart with his legs and then when the game was on the line what happened? he threw a perfect pass across his body into the corner of the end zone where on ly his receiver could get to it. Texas wins.

All I heard was how Texas would get completely destroyed by USC. No way Vince Young was coming into the Trojans back yard and beat them, no way. Well, what happened? An over rated team with a QB who can't throw or do anything went in to the Rose Bowl and won. When the game was on the line and the Horns needed a play what happened? Young made the play. Young took over that game on his own and won.

Then this ### clown Colin Cowheard breaks this story about Young and everyone wants to start bashing him for doing something most blue chip QB do. I am just tired of all the Vince Young bashing. No QB is perfect.

Anyone read the reports on Brady coming out of college? I guess those guys knew what they were talking about too. How about the highly rated Rick Mirer, now there's a guy with perfect throwing motion who was a can't miss prospect........ The combine is about as useful having a Kentucky tire and lube.com bowl.

 

[Banger]

Just heard on ESPN radio that Vince Young is refusing to throw at the combine. If this is true, wouldn't it be a huge mistake on his part?

They were saying scouts want to see him perform some NFL throws -- as he lived out of the shotgun at Texas.

Has he proved that he's a top 3 pick already? There's tons of people who don't think so yet, so what does he have to gain by skipping the combine, unless he fears he may not have the skills to make it in the NFL?

He only needs to convince one of the top teams that he's worthy of that pick and if he feels that either NO/Tenn are going to take him why do something that may screw it up. I don't agree with it and if I were one of those teams that may draft him that would throw up a HUGE red flag.

 

[Texasmouth]

Just heard on ESPN radio that Vince Young is refusing to throw at the combine. If this is true, wouldn't it be a huge mistake on his part?

They were saying scouts want to see him perform some NFL throws -- as he lived out of the shotgun at Texas.

Has he proved that he's a top 3 pick already? There's tons of people who don't think so yet, so what does he have to gain by skipping the combine, unless he fears he may not have the skills to make it in the NFL?

He only needs to convince one of the top teams that he's worthy of that pick and if he feels that either NO/Tenn are going to take him why do something that may screw it up. I don't agree with it and if I were one of those teams that may draft him that would throw up a HUGE red flag.

I doubt it is throwing up a red flag to anyone who knows anything. I doubt Norm Chow is listening to AM radio or reading message boards to find out if Young is a good pick or not. I doubt the people interested in drafting Young give two craps about this. Chow knows more about quarterbacks than most people on the planet. I am sure he has seen enough game footage of Young to determine whether he can be an NFL quarterback. Before giving the guy millions of dollars and the keys to the franchise, i am sure they are doing a little more research than the people on this board who think they are experts after watching one game Young played in.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

Actually I think the Ticket got the story wrong a tad, but it's still worth telling.The challenge was actually deep ball ACCURACY and the QBs were asked to throw the ball downfield BETWEEN the hash marks. On Young's first two throws he was outside the hash marks...and then embarrasingly his agent was seen on camera joking [or not?]..."aim THIS way, waving to the left." Then VY threw his next pass and it just barely made it inside the hash marks.

One of the Sporting News guys ripped Young's agent for letting him participate in the skills challenge suggesting Young had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

 

[Kleck.]

This it not uncommon for a top QB to make the decision not to throw at the combine.

It's uncommon for a top QB who has a major question mark about whether he can pass in the NFL system.Nobody runs the option spread in the NFL. Young is covering up what everyone who has seen VY knows: he cannot throw the ball taking dropbacks and hit WRs on medium/deep routes on a consistant basis.

I won't disagree that Young has a lot to prove with his throwing, but the combine is not the place to prove it at. If he comes out looking bad or mediocre, his stock could fall too much for him to make up during his private workout. Now if he spends this extra time getting ready for his workout and still looks bad or mediocre, than he could really be hurting. If he does well at the workout, not much harm done then by skipping the passing at the combine.This will just put even more focus on his workout which him and his agent must feel is the better thing to do.

 

[Spike]

I'd have been surprised if Young did decide to throw at the combine. What did he have to gain?

 

[Texasmouth]

I'd have been surprised if Young did decide to throw at the combine. What did he have to gain?

Finally a voice of reason.....

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

Why would Vince Young throw at the combine when he can hold private workouts for the few teams that are looking to draft him?

He has absolutely nothing to gain by throwing at the combine. This is all about people grasping for something to criticize him about.

 

[gman8343]

I'd have been surprised if Young did decide to throw at the combine. What did he have to gain?

Confidence that he can throw in the NFL?

 

[Kleck.]

I'd have been surprised if Young did decide to throw at the combine. What did he have to gain?

Exactly.

 

[Bailiver]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

Actually I think the Ticket got the story wrong a tad, but it's still worth telling.The challenge was actually deep ball ACCURACY and the QBs were asked to throw the ball downfield BETWEEN the hash marks. On Young's first two throws he was outside the hash marks...and then embarrasingly his agent was seen on camera joking [or not?]..."aim THIS way, waving to the left." Then VY threw his next pass and it just barely made it inside the hash marks.

One of the Sporting News guys ripped Young's agent for letting him participate in the skills challenge suggesting Young had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

I read similar comments by a few sportswriters. Young was THE hotest draft pick after the season, but didn't do himself any favors at the compeition. He apparently is represented by an old family friend who does not have a lot of experience as a sports agent.

 

[Texasmouth]

I'd have been surprised if Young did decide to throw at the combine.  What did he have to gain?

Confidence that he can throw in the NFL?

Throwing at the combine doesn't prove this at all. It means he can throw far. Wow. Big deal. I bet money Andre Ware and David Klingler could out throw any QB in the NFL. Didn't help them much though.

 

[Texasmouth]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

Actually I think the Ticket got the story wrong a tad, but it's still worth telling.The challenge was actually deep ball ACCURACY and the QBs were asked to throw the ball downfield BETWEEN the hash marks. On Young's first two throws he was outside the hash marks...and then embarrasingly his agent was seen on camera joking [or not?]..."aim THIS way, waving to the left." Then VY threw his next pass and it just barely made it inside the hash marks.

One of the Sporting News guys ripped Young's agent for letting him participate in the skills challenge suggesting Young had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

I read similar comments by a few sportswriters. Young was THE hotest draft pick after the season, but didn't do himself any favors at the compeition. He apparently is represented by an old family friend who does not have a lot of experience as a sports agent.

Oh great. I hadn't heard that. What is the deal with Texas players and their crappy representation? Hire a real friggin agent! Ricky Williams and master P come to mind........ that was a real good deal they worked out.......

 

[Jason Wood]

Why would Vince Young throw at the combine when he can hold private workouts for the few teams that are looking to draft him?

He has absolutely nothing to gain by throwing at the combine. This is all about people grasping for something to criticize him about.

The problem is the Vince Young went out of his way to say he WOULD throw at the Combine. Most of us wouldn't have expected him to throw there for obvious reasons. But by publicly acknowledging he would throw [but not run], and then reconsidering [if in fact he has], it casts a pall on an area he already has doubters on.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

Why would Vince Young throw at the combine when he can hold private workouts for the few teams that are looking to draft him?

He has absolutely nothing to gain by throwing at the combine.  This is all about people grasping for something to criticize him about.

The problem is the Vince Young went out of his way to say he WOULD throw at the Combine. Most of us wouldn't have expected him to throw there for obvious reasons. But by publicly acknowledging he would throw [but not run], and then reconsidering [if in fact he has], it casts a pall on an area he already has doubters on.

As long as he proves he can throw to Houston, New Orleans, and Tennessee, does it really matter that some guys on a message board or a radio DJ in Dallas has doubts?

 

[Capella]

Why would Vince Young throw at the combine when he can hold private workouts for the few teams that are looking to draft him?

He has absolutely nothing to gain by throwing at the combine.  This is all about people grasping for something to criticize him about.

The problem is the Vince Young went out of his way to say he WOULD throw at the Combine. Most of us wouldn't have expected him to throw there for obvious reasons. But by publicly acknowledging he would throw [but not run], and then reconsidering [if in fact he has], it casts a pall on an area he already has doubters on.

Nobody cares what he previously said except geeks on a message board who have nothing else to talk about in mid-February.He'll throw at his pro day and do fine. End of story.

 

[Texasmouth]

Why would Vince Young throw at the combine when he can hold private workouts for the few teams that are looking to draft him?

He has absolutely nothing to gain by throwing at the combine.  This is all about people grasping for something to criticize him about.

The problem is the Vince Young went out of his way to say he WOULD throw at the Combine. Most of us wouldn't have expected him to throw there for obvious reasons. But by publicly acknowledging he would throw [but not run], and then reconsidering [if in fact he has], it casts a pall on an area he already has doubters on.

As long as he proves he can throw to Houston, New Orleans, and Tennessee, does it really matter that some guys on a message board or a radio DJ in Dallas has doubts?

I said the same thing.

 

[Traders2001]

If your not happy that he does nt throw at the combine ,

stop the BS and dont pick him in your rookie draft .

Who cares if he does nt throw at the combine.

 

[BoulderBob]

Vince is all about the benjamins, baby...

 

[nygiants56]

Vince could very well be a top 3 or 5 pick right now, so he probably figures that he has no where to go but down by participating in the combine... and dropping out of the top 5 would definately cost him lots of money in the long run.

I do think that it's chicken poop. I say get your butt out there and show what you can (or can't) do, man. You can't hide forever.

@ vince young! bingo! its the hitch in the throwing motion that he wants so badly to hide..

he's gonna fall like aaron rogers did last year, you watch!

not down to 25th spot, but he will drop considerably , IMO..I think the kid from Vandy is climbing into the top 5 , and some others too...

this is Vince's version of mobsters pleading the 5th when taking the stand in a senate hearing on allegedly being a member of organized crime..lol

 

[Jason Wood]

Why would Vince Young throw at the combine when he can hold private workouts for the few teams that are looking to draft him?

He has absolutely nothing to gain by throwing at the combine.  This is all about people grasping for something to criticize him about.

The problem is the Vince Young went out of his way to say he WOULD throw at the Combine. Most of us wouldn't have expected him to throw there for obvious reasons. But by publicly acknowledging he would throw [but not run], and then reconsidering [if in fact he has], it casts a pall on an area he already has doubters on.

As long as he proves he can throw to Houston, New Orleans, and Tennessee, does it really matter that some guys on a message board or a radio DJ in Dallas has doubts?

Of course not, and the same goes for every player that's draft eligible. Young has a lot of question marks, he's aware of them, and will obviously do everything in his power to assuage those concerns at his Pro Day/private workout. Although I don't think he's AT ALL a lock to be a top 3 pick, I do think he'll have to look pretty bad at his private workouts to fall much beyond that. With the news that Chad Pennington has been asked to take a significant pay cut, I think the Jets are very much in play for Young if Tennessee passes on him.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

Vince could very well be a top 3 or 5 pick right now, so he probably figures that he has no where to go but down by participating in the combine... and dropping out of the top 5 would definately cost him lots of money in the long run. 

  I do think that it's chicken poop.  I say get your butt out there and show what you can (or can't) do, man.  You can't hide forever.

@ vince young! bingo! its the hitch in the throwing motion that he wants so badly to hide..

he's gonna fall like aaron rogers did last year, you watch!

not down to 25th spot, but he will drop considerably , IMO..I think the kid from Vandy is climbing into the top 5 , and some others too...

this is Vince's version of mobsters pleading the 5th when taking the stand in a senate hearing on allegedly being a member of organized crime..lol

I think it's ridiculous that schools let their students use the internet during recess.

 

[Texasmouth]

Vince could very well be a top 3 or 5 pick right now, so he probably figures that he has no where to go but down by participating in the combine... and dropping out of the top 5 would definately cost him lots of money in the long run. 

  I do think that it's chicken poop.  I say get your butt out there and show what you can (or can't) do, man.  You can't hide forever.

@ vince young! bingo! its the hitch in the throwing motion that he wants so badly to hide..

he's gonna fall like aaron rogers did last year, you watch!

not down to 25th spot, but he will drop considerably , IMO..I think the kid from Vandy is climbing into the top 5 , and some others too...

this is Vince's version of mobsters pleading the 5th when taking the stand in a senate hearing on allegedly being a member of organized crime..lol

I think it's ridiculous that schools let their students use the internet during recess.

Now that is funny. There are a lot of dumb people on this board.

 

[Capella]

Vince could very well be a top 3 or 5 pick right now, so he probably figures that he has no where to go but down by participating in the combine... and dropping out of the top 5 would definately cost him lots of money in the long run. 

  I do think that it's chicken poop.  I say get your butt out there and show what you can (or can't) do, man.  You can't hide forever.

@ vince young! bingo! its the hitch in the throwing motion that he wants so badly to hide..

he's gonna fall like aaron rogers did last year, you watch!

not down to 25th spot, but he will drop considerably , IMO..I think the kid from Vandy is climbing into the top 5 , and some others too...

this is Vince's version of mobsters pleading the 5th when taking the stand in a senate hearing on allegedly being a member of organized crime..lol

I think it's ridiculous that schools let their students use the internet during recess.

Now that is funny. There are a lot of dumb people on this board.

 

[BigTex]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

Actually I think the Ticket got the story wrong a tad, but it's still worth telling.The challenge was actually deep ball ACCURACY and the QBs were asked to throw the ball downfield BETWEEN the hash marks. On Young's first two throws he was outside the hash marks...and then embarrasingly his agent was seen on camera joking [or not?]..."aim THIS way, waving to the left." Then VY threw his next pass and it just barely made it inside the hash marks.

One of the Sporting News guys ripped Young's agent for letting him participate in the skills challenge suggesting Young had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

I read similar comments by a few sportswriters. Young was THE hotest draft pick after the season, but didn't do himself any favors at the compeition. He apparently is represented by an old family friend who does not have a lot of experience as a sports agent.

Oh great. I hadn't heard that. What is the deal with Texas players and their crappy representation? Hire a real friggin agent! Ricky Williams and master P come to mind........ that was a real good deal they worked out.......

The Ticket talked about this today as well (comparing him and Ricky). Apparently VY was playing basketball for some type of event.............WHY? And they were slamming his agent for allowing him to do so. I'm thinking VY will get it together, he seems to be a smart person.

 

[BigTex]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

Actually I think the Ticket got the story wrong a tad, but it's still worth telling.The challenge was actually deep ball ACCURACY and the QBs were asked to throw the ball downfield BETWEEN the hash marks. On Young's first two throws he was outside the hash marks...and then embarrasingly his agent was seen on camera joking [or not?]..."aim THIS way, waving to the left." Then VY threw his next pass and it just barely made it inside the hash marks.

One of the Sporting News guys ripped Young's agent for letting him participate in the skills challenge suggesting Young had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

Or I could have misunderstood exactly what was said. But still agree, if I was Young, I wouldn't participate in anything..............there's nothing to prove.........Love me or Leave me.

 

[dotman]

Vince could very well be a top 3 or 5 pick right now, so he probably figures that he has no where to go but down by participating in the combine... and dropping out of the top 5 would definately cost him lots of money in the long run. 

  I do think that it's chicken poop.  I say get your butt out there and show what you can (or can't) do, man.  You can't hide forever.

@ vince young! bingo! its the hitch in the throwing motion that he wants so badly to hide..

he's gonna fall like aaron rogers did last year, you watch!

not down to 25th spot, but he will drop considerably , IMO..I think the kid from Vandy is climbing into the top 5 , and some others too...

this is Vince's version of mobsters pleading the 5th when taking the stand in a senate hearing on allegedly being a member of organized crime..lol

Wait...Jay Cutler is going top 5 along with "some others"? Some other what? QB's? Well yeah everyone knows Leinart is? But who else?

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

Actually I think the Ticket got the story wrong a tad, but it's still worth telling.The challenge was actually deep ball ACCURACY and the QBs were asked to throw the ball downfield BETWEEN the hash marks. On Young's first two throws he was outside the hash marks...and then embarrasingly his agent was seen on camera joking [or not?]..."aim THIS way, waving to the left." Then VY threw his next pass and it just barely made it inside the hash marks.

One of the Sporting News guys ripped Young's agent for letting him participate in the skills challenge suggesting Young had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

Yeah, not surprising that the Ticket reported inaccurately. They obviously didn't watch it. Another thing they didn't tell you was that the other QBs weren't much more accurate on their throws and that Young's two "scratch" throws went over 70 yards, far outdistancing everyone else.

On the final stage of the competition, where the QBs had to drop back, hit a target in the corner of the end zone about 40 yards away, then run through a series of obstacles, hitting another passing target at the end, all under the clock, Young was the only QB to hit the long pass and the only one to both passes. He also had the quickest time, and it wasn't close.

EDIT: Come to think of it, IIRC Young was the only QB to hit a single target on that last phase of the comp. Someone please correct me if'n I'm wrong. I know you will.

I read similar comments by a few sportswriters. Young was THE hotest draft pick after the season, but didn't do himself any favors at the compeition. He apparently is represented by an old family friend who does not have a lot of experience as a sports agent.

As for what Matt Hayes says about that competition...well, let's just say Hayes has already proven many times what an as*clown he is.Young won the final portion, and was 2nd in the others, giving him the overall win. How did he make himself look bad?

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Why would Vince Young throw at the combine when he can hold private workouts for the few teams that are looking to draft him?

He has absolutely nothing to gain by throwing at the combine. This is all about people grasping for something to criticize him about.

At his private workout he can also throw to receivers he's used to. Not so at the combine.Significant to any QB, imho.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I'd have been surprised if Young did decide to throw at the combine.  What did he have to gain?

Confidence that he can throw in the NFL?

Dude, you obviously are a VY noob.If there's one thing that cat does not lack, it's confidence.

 

[Bri]

so what does he have to gain by skipping the combine, unless he fears he may not have the skills to make it in the NFL?

Personally I think everyone should perform as requested. However, if not throwing were to drop my stock in the draft and get me to a better team, I'd do that.I imagine the top 4-5 have been dissected so much that it doesn't matter all that much anymore.

 

[gman8343]

I'd have been surprised if Young did decide to throw at the combine.  What did he have to gain?

Confidence that he can throw in the NFL?

Dude, you obviously are a VY noob.If there's one thing that cat does not lack, it's confidence.

It was a joke, guy. Lighten up.

 

[BigTex]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

Actually I think the Ticket got the story wrong a tad, but it's still worth telling.The challenge was actually deep ball ACCURACY and the QBs were asked to throw the ball downfield BETWEEN the hash marks. On Young's first two throws he was outside the hash marks...and then embarrasingly his agent was seen on camera joking [or not?]..."aim THIS way, waving to the left." Then VY threw his next pass and it just barely made it inside the hash marks.

One of the Sporting News guys ripped Young's agent for letting him participate in the skills challenge suggesting Young had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

Yeah, not surprising that the Ticket reported inaccurately. They obviously didn't watch it. Another thing they didn't tell you was that the other QBs weren't much more accurate on their throws and that Young's two "scratch" throws went over 70 yards, far outdistancing everyone else.

On the final stage of the competition, where the QBs had to drop back, hit a target in the corner of the end zone about 40 yards away, then run through a series of obstacles, hitting 2 other passing targets along the way, all under the clock, Young was the only QB to hit the long pass and the only one to hit all 3 passes. He also had the quickest time, and it wasn't close.

He won that portion, and was 2nd in the others, giving him the overall win.

If this was the Hardline, D&D, or Bob and Dan maybe but not Norm. Norm seems to like VY and he is as reliable and honest as they come. You would be hard pressed to fine anyone in the DFW area that would disagree.As in my earlier post, Norm was just saying there is no need of VY to be participating in these events.

#1. Norm said VY's stock is high as it's going to get. I believe we all may agree with him on this.

#2. VY has no business playing pick up basketball, I believe we all agree with him on this.

#3. VY's agent or advisor has no experience, the too may not be good. I'd agree also.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I'm listening to radio "1310 The Ticket" and Norm said that during the QB Challenge this past weekend. The QBs had to throw the ball past the two hashmarks (to see the strength of the QB) and VY's first two throws didn't make it to the hashmarks.

Actually I think the Ticket got the story wrong a tad, but it's still worth telling.The challenge was actually deep ball ACCURACY and the QBs were asked to throw the ball downfield BETWEEN the hash marks. On Young's first two throws he was outside the hash marks...and then embarrasingly his agent was seen on camera joking [or not?]..."aim THIS way, waving to the left." Then VY threw his next pass and it just barely made it inside the hash marks.

One of the Sporting News guys ripped Young's agent for letting him participate in the skills challenge suggesting Young had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

Yeah, not surprising that the Ticket reported inaccurately. They obviously didn't watch it. Another thing they didn't tell you was that the other QBs weren't much more accurate on their throws and that Young's two "scratch" throws went over 70 yards, far outdistancing everyone else.

On the final stage of the competition, where the QBs had to drop back, hit a target in the corner of the end zone about 40 yards away, then run through a series of obstacles, hitting 2 other passing targets along the way, all under the clock, Young was the only QB to hit the long pass and the only one to hit all 3 passes. He also had the quickest time, and it wasn't close.

He won that portion, and was 2nd in the others, giving him the overall win.

If this was the Hardline, D&D, or Bob and Dan maybe but not Norm. Norm seems to like VY and he is as reliable and honest as they come. You would be hard pressed to fine anyone in the DFW area that would disagree.As in my earlier post, Norm was just saying there is no need of VY to be participating in these events.

#1. Norm said VY's stock is high as it's going to get. I believe we all may agree with him on this.

#2. VY has no business playing pick up basketball, I believe we all agree with him on this.

#3. VY's agent or advisor has no experience, the too may not be good. I'd agree also.

I'm not defending his agent, or the decision to be there. But he performed well, and his play didn't hurt his stock in any knowledgeable eyes.As far as Norm goes, if he said Young didn't throw past the 2nd hash marks, he clearly is:

(a) an idiot, (a notion in support of which there is already ample documented evidence)

or

(b) he didn't watch the show.