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My first thought. This may be good news if you're rooting for Campbell to continue in Washington too. I don't believe that had a chance of happening with Cerrato remaining there.According to ESPN Radio in DC, Viny Cerrato resigned and is entirely out of the Redskins organization.
Cue hope for Redskins owners until they remember that Snyder didn't go with him.
Edit to add: Does this cue a big name, Shanahan-esque signing coming in?
I don't want Holmgren if that means we gotta keep Zorn.
Zorn is not so bad. I wouldn't mind Holmgren there as an in-house mentor to him. The team is playing better and Zorn has not lost this team, which you'd fully expect late in a miserable second year in which he's supposed to be as amaeturish and clueless as everyone is saying he is. He has his weaknesses, but I don't think the record is fully indicative of Zorn so much as it's indicative of the overall lack of leadership in the organization and the specific failure to address the o-line adequately for years.I don't want Holmgren if that means we gotta keep Zorn.
The 3 games against the Cowboys, Eagles and Saints would have been won by a competent coach. He's holding this team back.Zorn is not so bad. I wouldn't mind Holmgren there as an in-house mentor to him. The team is playing better and Zorn has not lost this team, which you'd fully expect late in a miserable second year in which he's supposed to be as amaeturish and clueless as everyone is saying he is. He has his weaknesses, but I don't think the record is fully indicative of Zorn so much as it's indicative of the overall lack of leadership in the organization and the specific failure to address the o-line adequately for years.I don't want Holmgren if that means we gotta keep Zorn.
don't rat on Zorn. once they brought in "Bingo" Lewis, it got all screwed up along the sidelines against these teams.Zorn is in over his head. remember, he was a very good play-caller before he got hired as HC. he's had his growing pains and having a mentor would be great for him.
Cerrato was an enabler for the major problem, and that is Snyder who remains. Unfortunately there's no one to fire him. The hope here is that Snyder gets a big enough name with enough credibility to entrust more control over personnel and football operations to him the way that he previously did with Schottenheimer and Gibbs. The most commonly mentioned names are Shanahan and Holmgren, though Holmgren was publicly critical of the removal of Zorn's play-calling duties last month. As I said in the Official Redskins thread, Cerrato is actually a good evaluator of college talent. He should be a director of college scouting for an NFL team. He's overmatched, however, as a GM, particularly with a meddlesome owner who Cerrato needed to be acting as a counterweight to rather than as a "yes" man.
This is so convenient to say for those who hate Zorn, but perhaps you ought to justify the statement. The team is playing its best football right now after it has sustained some major injuries and losses to personnel on offense. All three of those teams figure to be playoff teams, so I'm not so sure that the Redskins figured to win those games going in. Would you mind explaining this?The 3 games against the Cowboys, Eagles and Saints would have been won by a competent coach. He's holding this team back.Zorn is not so bad. I wouldn't mind Holmgren there as an in-house mentor to him. The team is playing better and Zorn has not lost this team, which you'd fully expect late in a miserable second year in which he's supposed to be as amaeturish and clueless as everyone is saying he is. He has his weaknesses, but I don't think the record is fully indicative of Zorn so much as it's indicative of the overall lack of leadership in the organization and the specific failure to address the o-line adequately for years.I don't want Holmgren if that means we gotta keep Zorn.
Zorn never called plays before getting the Redskin HC job.
??? i thought it was one of Zorn's strong suits when he was QB coach.maybe I might have been wrong somewhere, but I just reemember reading past WPost articles about Zorn's abilities.
Holmgren called the plays in Seattle. Zorn filled in for one or two games and did a credible job, but this gig was essentially his first time as a play-caller. This is not unprecedented BTW as both Andy Reid and John Gruden's first times as play-callers were as head coaches too.??? i thought it was one of Zorn's strong suits when he was QB coach.maybe I might have been wrong somewhere, but I just reemember reading past WPost articles about Zorn's abilities.
He's a horrible game manager(when is the last time we had 3 timeouts at the end of the game?). In all three of those games he's played for field goals when TD's would win the game. I've seen it a million times with Zorn. He coaches scared.Also, the offense started clicking right about the time the took his play sheet away. You might call that a coincidence but I don't. And is he going to continue to use the WORST punt returner in the league?This is so convenient to say for those who hate Zorn, but perhaps you ought to justify the statement. The team is playing its best football right now after it has sustained some major injuries and losses to personnel on offense. All three of those teams figure to be playoff teams, so I'm not so sure that the Redskins figured to win those games going in. Would you mind explaining this?The 3 games against the Cowboys, Eagles and Saints would have been won by a competent coach. He's holding this team back.Zorn is not so bad. I wouldn't mind Holmgren there as an in-house mentor to him. The team is playing better and Zorn has not lost this team, which you'd fully expect late in a miserable second year in which he's supposed to be as amaeturish and clueless as everyone is saying he is. He has his weaknesses, but I don't think the record is fully indicative of Zorn so much as it's indicative of the overall lack of leadership in the organization and the specific failure to address the o-line adequately for years.I don't want Holmgren if that means we gotta keep Zorn.
Zorn had 2 things working against him. He was head coach, calling plays and QB coach...too much on his plate. The other thing is that instead of bringing in someone with experience as an offensive coordinator he brought in Sherm Smith, so he didn't have an elder to lean on when things started to go south.
Yes, D.C...there is a Santa Clause!According to ESPN Radio in DC, Viny Cerrato resigned and is entirely out of the Redskins organization.
Cue hope for Redskins owners until they remember that Snyder didn't go with him.
Edit to add: Does this cue a big name, Shanahan-esque signing coming in?
I agree. In other words, I don't think that Zorn necessarily sucked at any of his job responsibilities, just that he sucked at all of them together. Ironically, there was a strong feeling in Seattle that Holmgren had bitten off more than he could chew as both a head coach and GM there.
From what I've read Holmgren was not good at personnel choices.
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Bruce Allen is the General Manager of the Washington Redskins of the National Football League. Prior to the announcement of Allen's position with the Redskins, Allen served as General Manager for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and as a Senior Executive with the Oakland Raiders from 1996 to 2003.
that link no longer shows what you quoted. Wikipedia was quick enough to remove it. That site has accuracy issues -- some guy slipped that Bruce Allen thing in.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Allen_%...can_football%29
Bruce Allen (American football)
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Bruce Allen is the General Manager of the Washington Redskins of the National Football League. Prior to the announcement of Allen's position with the Redskins, Allen served as General Manager for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and as a Senior Executive with the Oakland Raiders from 1996 to 2003.
