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Clinton Portis said last week that the Redskins were as talented as any team in the league. We all know he is smoking crack, but just how bad is the talent pool that the coaches have been given to work with. I hate Danny, but I'd suggest Cerrato is the reason this organization has beome an utter failure. Schottenheimer fired Vinny wihin 15 minutes of taking over the team, and Danny Boy brought him back at year end. Danny sticking with Cerrato has cost this team not only the last 8 years, but maybe the next 5 because of monetary committments that have been made.

Let's examine Vinny's drafts since 2000, while acknowledging that 1) we have hindsight, 2) he's had a limited # of picks, which is his fault anyway

Their drafts can been found at this link http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft...0&type=team

There is not one good draft there. In fact, there isn't even an average draft. I'd say since 2000 there have been 6 picks out of 57 that have played to the level associated with where they were chosen (Landry, Taylor, Horton, Cooley, Cartright, Dockery). The Skins have had 2 glaring holes over these years (OL, DL), which is the backbone of any good team. So, what was done to fix that? Of 57 picks, only 7 were OL picks and of those only 1 was taken in Rounds 1-2. On the DL, zero DLmen were taken in rounds 1-2. Way to commit to the trenches Vinny.

So, since we had limited picks, how did our FAs work out? I'd give Cerrato the benefit of the doubt if some of these panned out.

Haynesworth - too early to determine, but certainly overpaid for him. Could have bought a whole new OL for $100 M

Deangelo Hall - not a #1 CB, but getting top 10 CB money - BUST

Jason Taylor - BUST

Adam Archulette - BUST

Andre Carter - BUST IMO. DEs are supposed to have sacks. He has had no impact.

Deion Sanders - BUST

Bruce Smith - BUST

Shawn Springs - Was a good pickup

Mark Carrier - BUST

Dana Stubblefield - 1 year was OK, BUST otherwise

Jesse Armstead - BUST

Jeremiah Trotter - BUST

Marcus Washington - Was a good pick

London Fletcher - Was a good pickup

Jeff George - BUST

So of the Skins BIG acquisitions the last 9 years, there were 11 busts, 3 good pickups, a 1 TBD. That is abhorrent. FAs are supposed to be the easy ones to get right. You've seen them perform in the NFL, you know what they can do, you know what system fits them. 20% accuracy is a joke.

Fault Zorn, Spurrier, Schottenheimer, and to a lesser extent Gibbs all you like. But the fact is the talent pool is one of the worst 10 in the NFL.

Winning starts at the top, and the top must commit to a good GM. Danny has committed to a friend to run his fantasy football team. There is no committment to the trenches or to players that fit into a system.

This may be the fastest any solid franshise has fallen. Vinny Cerrato also took SF from elite to crappy. Vinny took over Player Personnel during the 1995 SB season. By his 4th year, they were a 4-12 team. So after just 3 years he took a great franchise and made them a sub 500 team, with some of the worst talent in the league. SF is only now recovering 8 years later.

I would contend that the Skins will need this same 7-9 years to recover from all the poor decisions made by Danny Boy's Tonto.

 
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If you are Shannahan, Holmgren or Cowher, why do you even return the phone call? They went down this road with Marty having player decisions, and he was fired before he even made 1 transaction.

Money is the only way Snyder gets these guys, which he is always willing to do I guess. Marty got $25 million for 6 months of work.

A Cowher type is more of what this team needs than Shanny, but I don't think Cowher touches the job. They have no leaders on the field, so the coach better be one.

 
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Daniel Snyder is the Al Davis of the East.

He has the patience of a fruit fly and he always splurges for overpriced name brand talent.

 
at least you have a GM

us Bills fans are saddled with an ex-baseball marketing guy being the yes man for a 92 year old meddler

 
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I haven't looked over the draft lists, and I'll quibble with your assessment of Carter and Hall; I think they're both decent. But that's not my main point. I agree with your assessment of Cerrato. This is my main point:

Danny has committed to a friend to run his fantasy football team.
It starts further up than Cerrato; it starts with Snyder. I don't see a way yet to break Snyder's attachment to Cerrato. So I don't see a way to stop the steady downhill trend that Cerrato has caused and will continue to cause. Snyder has spent years insulating himself from any input he doesn't want to hear. He gets his football advice from people who want to humor him and from people he employs. He's bought off most of the sports coverage of the Redskins, and previously-independent voices like Kevin Sheehan are now much more muted because their paychecks come from Snyder. He gets advice from Joe Gibbs (whom he still employs). He schmoozes with other owners and with stars. Did you see who was on the sidelines yesterday before the Lions game? Tom. F. Cruise. There is no one to whom Snyder will listen that will tell him the honest situation with the team. I see little chance of getting a new head coach for next year with a decent NFL background. Whomever Snyder hires won't have final say on personnel; that is the province of Snyder and Cerrato alone. Zorn was hired, if you remember, because everyone else except Jim Fassell turned down the job. The next coaching hire will be even less-wanted. The only way I can see a "name" former coach taking the job is if he's basically packed it in already and just wants to collect a lot of bucks. Otherwise it'll be some novice or pushover who's content with Snyder and Cerrato's personnel selection. I don't know any way Snyder will let go of Cerrato. Vinnie is the only guy who will GM the team the way Snyder wants. And us Redskin fans are left to suffer and cuss. Help us. Send a ninja or something.
 
It's Danny Boy who signs these high priced FAs, so until he realizes that it takes team chemistry to win a championship instead of treating the Redskins like a fantasy team, he will remain a loser. The only way Danny Boy can ever transform the Redskins into winners is to surround himself with good football people and keep his nose out of day to day operations, because he doesn't know what he's doing. It's either that or sell the team to someone who will do those things.

 
One of the worst moves the Skins made in the last decade or so was getting rid of Schottenheimer after one season. He has the best track record of any coach out there at turning teams around.

 
One of the worst moves the Skins made in the last decade or so was getting rid of Schottenheimer after one season. He has the best track record of any coach out there at turning teams around.
Some could argue the worst move the 'Skins made was allowing Daniel Snyder to buy them in the first place.
 
It's Danny Boy who signs these high priced FAs, so until he realizes that it takes team chemistry to win a championship instead of treating the Redskins like a fantasy team, he will remain a loser. The only way Danny Boy can ever transform the Redskins into winners is to surround himself with good football people and keep his nose out of day to day operations, because he doesn't know what he's doing. It's either that or sell the team to someone who will do those things.
Actually, looking at the last 8 drafts the Skins had, only 2004 produced anything of value (Taylor and Cooley). The rest have produced either nothing or relatively nothing. Successful NFL teams draft well.
 

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