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VY: Does The "Dead Cat Bounce" earlier this week... (1 Viewer)

gregjcross

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PFT is reporting that VY **possibly** went missing again last night. That he likely will never play for the Tittans again. I had this feeling too, thinking, all too bizzare from Sunday esp. when he threatened retiremement a year beforehand.

This guy has a 10% chance IMHO of returning as a viable NFL QB.

Anyone give different odds of his coming back after this knee heals up?

 
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and wtf is the "dad cat bounce". what a horrible term.
DEAD CAT BOUNCE[Q] From Steven Gruzd, South Africa: “I had never heard the phrase dead cat bounce before the recent dips and dives on the world’s stock markets, and then heard it three times in one day, on various media reports. Presumably it refers to a small improvement in the market’s fortune, after a long downward movement — even a dead cat dropped from a dizzy height may bounce a little. Am I correct? And what is its origin?”[A] It does indeed refer to a temporary recovery from a big drop in a stock’s price and the image evoked is just the one you give. The term is part of the extraordinary jargon of the financial world; the evidence strongly suggests that it originated on Wall Street. A good example of the usage is this from 1995: “The nature of that rally is going to be extremely important, because if it’s just a dead cat bounce, then I would say we were in for real trouble”.Despite its obvious US origins, its first recorded appearance is in a British newspaper, the Financial Times, in December 1985:Despite the evidence of buying interest yesterday, they said the rise was partly technical and cautioned against concluding that the recent falls in the market were at an end. “This is what we call a ‘dead cat bounce’,” one broker said flatly.That this wasn’t a one-off is suggested by its turning up again the following year, in an Associated Press newswire piece found by Paul McFedries that makes the origins of the expression clear:One of the most vivid, if a bit indelicate, word pictures painted by the bears on oil comes from Raymond F. DeVoe Jr. at the investment firm of Legg Mason Wood Walker. DeVoe suggests the printing of a bumper sticker reading: “Beware the Dead Cat Bounce.” “This applies to stocks or commodities that have gone into free-fall descent and then rallied briefly,” he says. “If you threw a dead cat off a 50-story building, it might bounce when it hit the sidewalk. But don’t confuse that bounce with renewed life. It is still a dead cat.”The phrase gradually caught on during the 1990s but became particularly common — for obvious reasons — after 2000 Its heyday may be passing.
 
To many wannabe fiction writers find themselves in the sports journalist profession.

 
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I think VY will have ample time to get his head on straight before his body is back in condition to play. All the drama is really irrelevant because he won't be able to play for at least 4 weeks anyway. His mental condition probably pushes recovery out to the maximum time, but otherwise all this doesn't mean a thing because he can't play football now anyway.

 
i had to make cap room to bring chris johnson up from my taxi squad and dropped VY @$25 for 2 years. my qb situation is pretty bad (favre and nothing else) and am rolling with collins as my qb2. a qb with this many problems is history i think. you cannot have someone this unstable leading your football team and i think he's done in TN. i hope the guy gets well and can happiness somewhere.

 
If I am the Titans legal counsel, I demand immediate emergency counseling for VY, and send his mother a letter recommending that VY be hospitalized under the Baker Act (against his will if necessary).

This situation smells worse and worse every day (my opinion).

 
Two points:

1 - I know what a "dead cat bounce" is and I have no idea how that term would apply to the situation at hand.

2 - Those guys at PFT just like to make stuff up.

 
PFT = the National Enquirer of NFL talk...they throw so much sh8t against the wall just hoping something,anything will stick.

 
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Two points:1 - I know what a "dead cat bounce" is and I have no idea how that term would apply to the situation at hand.
the dead cat bounce would be the part where everything was supposedly fine and dandy after that first incident.then the bottom fell out.
 
Two points:1 - I know what a "dead cat bounce" is and I have no idea how that term would apply to the situation at hand.
the dead cat bounce would be the part where everything was supposedly fine and dandy after that first incident.then the bottom fell out.
Gotcha. Thanks. It would be more believable if not for the fact that the corn in my poo has more credibility than the original report.
 
they don't have so much pats 'news' to stir #### up with this year so they have to invent new stuff to attract the gossip column readers and rikki lake viewers.

 
Two points:1 - I know what a "dead cat bounce" is and I have no idea how that term would apply to the situation at hand.
the dead cat bounce would be the part where everything was supposedly fine and dandy after that first incident.then the bottom fell out.
what part of injured, awol and in limbo was the "fine and dandy" part.
Chronology: Sunday/Monday: Player doesnt want to go gack in the game, Player gets injured, -- on to Monday-- Player needs counseling, goes missing, coach calls the cops, suicide mentioned.Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday: The comeback PR spin, "He's really just fine. "Sorry for the mix-up and alarm. (*thus, the dc bounce)Friday/Saturday.......Bottom falling out again according to Florio of PFT (usually he is ahead of stuff.)ESPN's Mortensen writes a story tonight: Quotes Titans coach......."Jeff Fisher didn't say that Young, the team's top draft pick in 2006, would automatically get his job back when his sprained left knee heals in approximately four weeks."So, he is not necessarily the starter when healthy.Though Fisher does say he has an immediate future watching Kerry Collins, which will help right him for later on.And... we'll see what happens next
 
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Two points:1 - I know what a "dead cat bounce" is and I have no idea how that term would apply to the situation at hand.
the dead cat bounce would be the part where everything was supposedly fine and dandy after that first incident.then the bottom fell out.
what part of injured, awol and in limbo was the "fine and dandy" part.
Chronology: Sunday/Monday: Player doesnt want to go gack in the game, Player gets injured, -- on to Monday-- Player needs counseling, goes missing, coach calls the cops, suicide mentioned.Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday: The comeback PR spin, "He's really just fine. "Sorry for the mix-up and alarm. (*thus, the dc bounce)Friday/Saturday.......Bottom falling out again according to Florio of PFT (usually he is ahead of stuff.)ESPN's Mortensen writes a story tonight: Quotes Titans coach......."Jeff Fisher didn't say that Young, the team's top draft pick in 2006, would automatically get his job back when his sprained left knee heals in approximately four weeks."So, he is not necessarily the starter when healthy.Though Fisher does say he has an immediate future watching Kerry Collins, which will help right him for later on.And... we'll see what happens next
Here's the Mort article:
Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher indicated it may be awhile before quarterback Vince Young gets his job back. But on Saturday night Fisher forcefully denied some of the allegations and elements of a police report that dramatized Young's alleged escapades on Monday when he reportedly threatened to commit suicide.[+] EnlargeVince YoungJeff Hanisch/US PresswireVince Young could be watching Kerry Collins play for awhile."Some of that stuff in the report was just flat-out wrong ...erroneous," Fisher said. "It's not an accurate portrayal of the events. I know. I was in the middle of it. And Vince is fine and he's going to be fine ...there's going to be a positive outcome."Specifically, Fisher clarified certain aspects of the police report he said are misleading:• Young was never at LP Stadium "let alone going off ...with a gun," as the report stated. In fact, a Nashville public information officer early Saturday morning also corrected the report and stated that Young never appeared at the stadium.• Vince Young does not have a personal therapist, as cited in the report. Fisher said the therapist, Sheila Peters, is employed by the club and is available on-site to all team personnel two or three days during the week.• It was Mike Mu, who is Young's local marketing manager, who called Peters with the alarm that Young had left his home without his cell phone, threatening to quit and was speeding down the interstate with a gun in his car after talking about suicide. Peters, in turn, called Fisher with Mu's account but she never spoke to directly with Young, as indicated in the report, until the end of the night."Look, when I got the call from Sheila, she was reacting on [Mu's] story and I had no way to reach Vince because he didn't have his phone. So I did what anybody would do -- I called the police," Fisher said. "Once the police are involved, there's certain protocol that has to be followed."So when Vince finally got home later that night, he called me and said, 'What's up?' I told him he had to come down to the facility to meet with the police. Vince said, 'I'm fine, coach.' I said, 'I know you're fine but there's a protocol now and you have to come down here and see the police face-to-face.' And he did. They talked to him. Yes, there was a gun in the car -- you can't say that's unusual with players these days -- but it wasn't loaded and the police didn't have a problem with it. Then Sheila spoke with him and determined he was all right, too. And everybody went home."As to Young's state of mind regarding possible suicide, Fisher said, "I don't buy it," and was irritated with Mu's involvement with Young.However, Fisher acknowledged that Young had hit a "valley" with his emotions stemming from his performance, the fans' reaction and an injury the quarterback suffered during Sunday's 17-10 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars."Sometimes in life, you hit a wall and that's what is happening with Vince," said Fisher. "You get booed, you throw [interceptions] and you have injuries. But we're going to turn this into a positive experience. One day, when he's ready, he'll be our quarterback again."Veteran Kerry Collins will be the starter for the Titans on Sunday when they travel play the Bengals. Young did not make the trip."That's our policy with injured players," Fisher said. "Vince has been in a good frame of mind the past couple of days. He's been in for treatment and taking care of business."Fisher didn't say that Young, the team's top draft pick in 2006, would automatically get his job back when his sprained left knee heals in approximately four weeks."One thing that Vince never really got to do like a lot of young quarterbacks is just sit back and watch how a seasoned pro goes about the job," Fisher said. "His rookie year, yes, he watched Kerry play for three games but Kerry had just joined the team right before the season and didn't really know the scheme or the playbook."The only time it really happened was last year when Kerry started after Vince got hurt. Kerry started in Houston [Oct. 21] and he played great [25-of-42 passing, 280 yards in a 38-36 win]."So I want [Young] to get well, sit back, watch and learn how Kerry prepares, how he plays, how he reacts to adversity. As you know, Kerry went through a lot of things early in his career as a No. 1 pick [in Carolina] but he's the model of stability and consistency right now. Kerry's a good person and he'll help Vince just by example and the nature of his own personal story. We'll make this a positive experience for Vince and, in the end, he'll be what we thought he could be."
 

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