Wake me when the Ice Buckets stop (1 Viewer)

[bigbottom]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

Again, pretty much every one of my friends who has done this are not the type who look to grab attention for themselves. They've simply been called out. I think some people may be doing this simply to avoid the negative attention of not doing it after being called out publicly, which is somewhat counter to your point.

 

[mr roboto]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

Again, pretty much every one of my friends who has done this are not the type who look to grab attention for themselves. They've simply been called out. I think some people may be doing this simply to avoid the negative attention of not doing it after being called out publicly, which is somewhat counter to your point.

This. That's the only reason I did it.

 

[comfortably numb]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

It is out of control but it will pass. Like everything else does, til the next craze.

People are having fun with it.

The stunts are fun and part of raising awareness.

If people just donated and didn't take it a step further ALS probably would have received $23,000 instead of $23,000,000

You remember John Paulson's generous gift right?

Me either.

Well, he donated 100Million dollars to the NY Central Park Conservatory.

I know, I know...I didn't even know there was a central park conservatory and people still don't despite the 100M donation.

But if people were all having fun with for a month or 2 and doing silly things awareness for the NY Central Park Conservatory would have been raised and people might be able to help out down the road and join a cause they would normally not have heard of.

It's all about the awareness.

I think the awareness is getting lost now too. Seen a few ice bucket challenges that don't even reference ALS.

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

That's great and I assume people running these charitable foundations need a lot of other things aside from money.

They need volunteers, food and more importantly....they need awareness.

How about emotional support?

Maybe some people dealing with this illness can take solace or find peace that millions of people or being active.

 

[Rayderr]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

You must be the life of the parties with all the fun you seem to want to have.

Here is how it started and why... feel free to kick yourself at anytime.

Also while I am clearly for the IBC, here is a compilation of Ice Bucket fails.... enjoy.

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

 

[Disco Stu]

OMG OTIS IS A JERK HE THINKS ITS STUPID TO POUR ICE ON YOUR HEAD OMGMGOMGOMGMGMGMG

Settle down nerd.

 

[Henry Ford]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

You must be the life of the parties with all the fun you seem to want to have.

Here is how it started and why... feel free to kick yourself at anytime.

Also while I am clearly for the IBC, here is a compilation of Ice Bucket fails.... enjoy.

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

However, ALS has raised millions more during this period than the same period last year.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

OMG OTIS IS A JERK HE THINKS ITS STUPID TO POUR ICE ON YOUR HEAD OMGMGOMGOMGMGMGMG

Are you sure you're angry enough about this?

 

[comfortably numb]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

You must be the life of the parties with all the fun you seem to want to have.

Here is how it started and why... feel free to kick yourself at anytime.

Also while I am clearly for the IBC, here is a compilation of Ice Bucket fails.... enjoy.

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

So?

They're doing their part by raising awareness then?

You can argue their intentions just as someone could argue people donate ONLY money just to feel good about themselves.

It's a good thing these foundations need a lot of both money and awareness.

Seriously,

If you were happy in the beginning you should be happy now.

I know, I get it. It's out of control and majority of people doing it don't even care about ALS.

So what.

It's worth it for the money, support, notoriety and attention the disease has gotten.

Perhaps some people are moved and do something extra?

If you want to see the negative in something you will. If you want to see the positive in something you can.

All comes down to what you are looking for.

 

[Rayderr]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

You must be the life of the parties with all the fun you seem to want to have.

Here is how it started and why... feel free to kick yourself at anytime.

Also while I am clearly for the IBC, here is a compilation of Ice Bucket fails.... enjoy.

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

However, ALS has raised millions more during this period than the same period last year.

And that has what to do with the people who are doing the challenge for their own gain and in many cases not even following up on making the donation? And I'm not sure why it's usch a taboo to speak out against those people and that they must be defended at all costs? Just because myself and others have called out people for their disingenuous use of the IBC does not mean we think that of everyone who has done it.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

Estimates of percentages of people participating and donating based on social media impressions relative to donations received have been posted in this thread. I think you will like the numbers; they will help you reinforce the moral and intellectual superiority you've asserted over those participating in the IBC.

 

[Rayderr]

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

Estimates of percentages of people participating and donating based on social media impressions relative to donations received have been posted in this thread. I think you will like the numbers; they will help you reinforce the moral and intellectual superiority you've asserted over those participating in the IBC.

Care to link to it? Didn't see anything doing a quick skim. But if it's not 100%, then I think I have a right to ##### about the that percentage that is causing it to fall short of 100%.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

Estimates of percentages of people participating and donating based on social media impressions relative to donations received have been posted in this thread. I think you will like the numbers; they will help you reinforce the moral and intellectual superiority you've asserted over those participating in the IBC.

Care to link to it? Didn't see anything doing a quick skim. But if it's not 100%, then I think I have a right to ##### about the that percentage that is causing it to fall short of 100%.

Yes, there are people who are doing it and not donating. I prefer they would donate, but you know what, they're still passing it along to others who likely will.

I'm not going to throw the baby out with the ice water, as it were.

 

[fourd]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

You must be the life of the parties with all the fun you seem to want to have.

Here is how it started and why... feel free to kick yourself at anytime.

Also while I am clearly for the IBC, here is a compilation of Ice Bucket fails.... enjoy.

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

However, ALS has raised millions more during this period than the same period last year.

And that has what to do with the people who are doing the challenge for their own gain and in many cases not even following up on making the donation? And I'm not sure why it's usch a taboo to speak out against those people and that they must be defended at all costs? Just because myself and others have called out people for their disingenuous use of the IBC does not mean we think that of everyone who has done it.

Because just maybe their self-serving videos have made others actually donate money who would not have otherwise. Please name one organization that wouldn't be happy with these results. And what exactly do those who just post and don't donate gain from doing so?

 

[bigbottom]

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

However, ALS has raised millions more during this period than the same period last year.

And that has what to do with the people who are doing the challenge for their own gain and in many cases not even following up on making the donation?

Because awareness = $$$

 

[Rayderr]

Count me in the group that thinks it's getting a bit out of control. It was fine initially but then celebs started doing it because they need people to talk about them. Our local NBC affiliate has been hyping "Tune in every day to see another On-Air member of NBC4 take the Ice Bucket challenge!" Um, no. Great that you guys want to donate to ALS, but when you turn it into a ratings stunt, I'm out. And the guy who had a helicopter drop water on him up in the mountains, How about you just do the challenge normally and add in the money you spent on renting the helicopter to the donation to ALS?

And on a side note, I wonder how percentage of these people taking the challenge then actually send in the money to ALS.

But has it helped the cause?

There are people like you and think like you in the world, maybe that's why it is such a crappy place. The complain and cry because something that helps others annoys them. I'm sorry helping find a cure or at least raising awareness gets on their nerves because it interferes with their facebook feed and all the "Name a movie that doesn't have a letter A in it" posts.

I've donated money to charities before and will in the future. Don't need to be "challenged" to do so. Don't need to post a youtube video that shows I'm doing something stupid to donate less. And at this point, I really don't think it's about ALS, it about people trying to grab some attention for themselves. It's the new "planking."

You must be the life of the parties with all the fun you seem to want to have.

Here is how it started and why... feel free to kick yourself at anytime.

Also while I am clearly for the IBC, here is a compilation of Ice Bucket fails.... enjoy.

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

However, ALS has raised millions more during this period than the same period last year.

And that has what to do with the people who are doing the challenge for their own gain and in many cases not even following up on making the donation? And I'm not sure why it's usch a taboo to speak out against those people and that they must be defended at all costs? Just because myself and others have called out people for their disingenuous use of the IBC does not mean we think that of everyone who has done it.

Because just maybe their self-serving videos have made others actually donate money who would not have otherwise. Please name one organization that wouldn't be happy with these results. And what exactly do those who just post and don't donate gain from doing so?

So if [enter your least favorite person here] makes a public proclamation stating they are donating money to [insert your cause here] and urges others to do so, but then doesn't donate the money themselves, you'd be cool with it? I have my doubts.

 

[bigbottom]

Once our Foundation is up and running, I will be absolutely thrilled and forever grateful to anyone who helps spread the word to increase awareness of our charity, regardless of whether or not they themselves donate. I can't imagine chastising people who are helping us in such a manner.

 

[Rayderr]

I'm well aware of it's origins. In fact if you go back and read my original post (in the quote blocks above) You'll even said I said it was fine when it started. My complaint is aimed mainly at the people who are doing the ice bucket challenge for reasons other than to donate to ALS (and since we rarely see them walk over to the desk after doing the challenge, and writing a check, putting it in an envelope and dropping it off in a mailbox, I'd wager a good portion of those doing it for attention aren't even fulfilling the donation part.)

However, ALS has raised millions more during this period than the same period last year.

And that has what to do with the people who are doing the challenge for their own gain and in many cases not even following up on making the donation?

Because awareness = $$$

You don't think awareness would've been raised without that small percentage of schmucks?

 

[shadyridr]

ALS is a terrible disease as many have mentioned and this thread shows what a self absorbed arrogant look at me piece of crap Otis is.

Are you sure you're angry enough about this?

Why is it "absorbed" or "arrogant" to observe that it's douschy for a bunch of people who don't even know what ALS is to go on Facebook and video themselves in the name of a cause they never cared about before simply because they want to join in and have a video of themselves on Facebook?

I think the one component you're forgetting about here is societal pressure. Let's say you're not a douchy person who would not be the type to post a video of themselves on FB (which describes pretty much every single one of my friends who has done this). When someone does this challenge and then publicly challenges you to join in the effort, what is your move? Refuse to do it on principle? Or suck it up understanding that you're helping promote a worthy cause?*Be very careful how you answer this question.

Someone challenged me and I didnt do it

Same here.

Did both of you at least make a donation? If not to ALS to a cause of your choosing?

my wife accepted the challenge and donated

 

[Disco Stu]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

 

[Rayderr]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

 

[mr roboto]

I used to be idealistic and cynical too. Then I grew up and became a pragmatist.

 

[comfortably numb]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

Add those 4 together and you have 23 million dollars



I guess you can look at the negative in things if you want to

 

[Rayderr]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

Add those 4 together and you have 23 million dollars



I guess you can look at the negative in things if you want to

Again, you're mistaking what the complaint is about. I get it. It's how this place works. "Hey this guy doesn't like one small part of something we like! That means he hates everything about it!!! And he hates us!!!!!! After him!!!1! No one shall have a contrary opinion!!1!!!1!!"

 

[McGarnicle]

Normally when I watch videos of firm wet teens in bikinis, there is no money going to charity.

 

[Christo]

Normally when I watch videos of firm wet teens in bikinis, there is no money going to charity.

As it should be.

 

[sublimeone]

ALS is a terrible disease as many have mentioned and this thread shows what a self absorbed arrogant look at me piece of crap Otis is.

Are you sure you're angry enough about this?

Why is it "absorbed" or "arrogant" to observe that it's douschy for a bunch of people who don't even know what ALS is to go on Facebook and video themselves in the name of a cause they never cared about before simply because they want to join in and have a video of themselves on Facebook?

I think the one component you're forgetting about here is societal pressure. Let's say you're not a douchy person who would not be the type to post a video of themselves on FB (which describes pretty much every single one of my friends who has done this). When someone does this challenge and then publicly challenges you to join in the effort, what is your move? Refuse to do it on principle? Or suck it up understanding that you're helping promote a worthy cause?

*Be very careful how you answer this question.

I was in this exact situation yesterday. I feel like its kind of douchy so I made a donation to an ALS charity. After my donation there was an option to post it to my Facebook wall.

 

[Disco Stu]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

 

[Rayderr]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

 

[Apple Jack]

The whining doesn't say what you think it says.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

Patently false.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I took the Icy Pots challenge instead

Nice. I hope you finished the challenge by playing an awesome Slaughter hand.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

What? This isn't even close to being true.

 

[TenTimes]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

Actually I think Rayderr does understand this, and has taken it a step further by ensuring this discussion stays "HOT" for at least a little longer, same as Otis did yesterday.

History will remember them as chumps, I will remember them as the guys who sacrificed board cred for a good cause :salute:

 

[TheIronSheik]

ALS is a terrible disease as many have mentioned and this thread shows what a self absorbed arrogant look at me piece of crap Otis is.

Are you sure you're angry enough about this?

Why is it "absorbed" or "arrogant" to observe that it's douschy for a bunch of people who don't even know what ALS is to go on Facebook and video themselves in the name of a cause they never cared about before simply because they want to join in and have a video of themselves on Facebook?

I already conceded it was a brilliant and effective campaign. It's not like I ever said ALS is awesome and giving to charity is bad. A few of you guys are worse at reading comprehension than you are at curing diseases by pouring ice on your heads.

New here?

 

[Rayderr]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

Patently false.

really? About 20 of my friends have done the ice bucket challenge video. Let's say one of those didn't donate (my guess would be on the guy who grabbed the edges of the barrel, did a hand stand, lowered himself in, and then back out.) I still would've known about it from the other 19 friends.

 

[Disco Stu]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

So that's a no then. Challenging five more people, who each challenge five, etc etc, means more money for the cause. So it's a good thing even if you believe the awareness level has reached 100%.

 

[Apple Jack]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

Wow.

 

[Apple Jack]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

Patently false.

really? About 20 of my friends have done the ice bucket challenge video. Let's say one of those didn't donate (my guess would be on the guy who grabbed the edges of the barrel, did a hand stand, lowered himself in, and then back out.) I still would've known about it from the other 19 friends.

You are not the only one who sees those posts. HTH.

 

[Rayderr]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

So that's a no then. Challenging five more people, who each challenge five, etc etc, means more money for the cause. So it's a good thing even if you believe the awareness level has reached 100%.

You're assuming that 1. they're challenging people and 2. that those people haven't already been challenged. (i have seen plenty of "I already did it" responses to being challenged.) It runs into the same problem as MLM. Eventually, you just run out of people. So you have people being asked over and over again to join Amway the Ice Bucket Challenge.

 

[comfortably numb]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

So that's a no then. Challenging five more people, who each challenge five, etc etc, means more money for the cause. So it's a good thing even if you believe the awareness level has reached 100%.

You're assuming that 1. they're challenging people and 2. that those people haven't already been challenged. (i have seen plenty of "I already did it" responses to being challenged.) It runs into the same problem as MLM. Eventually, you just run out of people. So you have people being asked over and over again to join Amway the Ice Bucket Challenge. a cure is found?

You know, there is always that little nugget that would be kinda neat.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Seems like Rayderr doesn't quite understand how and why this is spreading. And why that's a good thing despite the percentage donating falling short of 100.

I understand perfectly. It's one part bros icing bros, one part planking, one part chain email, one part charity.

And you understand why it's better for the cause for non-donators to still post a video?

I understand that that the awareness level will not have changed if they hadn't posted a video as there are plenty of donators already doing the same thing.

So that's a no then. Challenging five more people, who each challenge five, etc etc, means more money for the cause. So it's a good thing even if you believe the awareness level has reached 100%.

You're assuming that 1. they're challenging people and 2. that those people haven't already been challenged. (i have seen plenty of "I already did it" responses to being challenged.) It runs into the same problem as MLM. Eventually, you just run out of people. So you have people being asked over and over again to join Amway the Ice Bucket Challenge.

And it will peter out at that point.

However, your point was 'anyone who isn't donating but just doing the challenge is not helping in ANY way.' Now, when we are near the saturation point, you are closer to being correct - the benefit for 'just participating and forwarding' - is growing smaller (but not in any way zero). However, in the earlier stages of this viral fundraiser, the benefit to 'just participating and forwarding' was tremendous. So while I give far more credit to those who donate and forward, there is some (and was a lot) of value to just participating and forwarding.

The numbers aren't achieved by lack of participation or silent donation.

 

[tonydead]

The challenge is donate $100 OR do the ice bucket. More than 50% of the people that choose the ice bucket do BOTH. Donations are up 141%. To say this isn't helping or isn't a good thing is just wrong.

 

[Disco Stu]

So basically the complaint is that the campaign is working too well?

 

[Rayderr]

So basically the complaint is that the campaign is working too well?

Gonna side with Otis here. You all just suck at reading comprehension.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

So basically the complaint is that the campaign is working too well?

Gonna side with Otis here. You all just suck at reading comprehension.

I get it. You think some people are attention-whoring people, completely missing the point and doing nothing to further the cause.

That's what we're saying too.

 

[comfortably numb]

So basically the complaint is that the campaign is working too well?

Gonna side with Otis here. You all just suck at reading comprehension.

I get it. You think some people are attention-whoring people, completely missing the point and doing nothing to further the cause.

That's what we're saying too.

Exactly.

And the world needs ditch diggers too.

All these missing the point and attention-whoring people help raise awareness.

Whether people like it or not, without these people the amount ALS receives would have been less.

 

[Apple Jack]

This says much more about how you view your "friends" than anything to do with a great fundraising idea gone viral. Maybe you should choose your friends more wisely.

 

[Disco Stu]

So basically the complaint is that the campaign is working too well?

Gonna side with Otis here. You all just suck at reading comprehension.

Perhaps. What else does "eventually you run out of people" mean? I'll hang up and listen.

 

[Disco Stu]

A break from the tedious bickering...

The Bella Thorne one definitely raised awareness. In my pants.

http://instagram.com/p/r41bQgFBbn/

 

[McGarnicle]

A break from the tedious bickering...

The Bella Thorne one definitely raised awareness. In my pants.

http://instagram.com/p/r41bQgFBbn/

Yes, more of this please.