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War on Christmas: Starbucks Edition (1 Viewer)

Are they even outraged? Sounds like they were forming a committee to decide if they should be outraged.

 
I love the people that are "protesting" by still giving Starbucks their money so they have to write "Merry Christmas" on the cup. That'll really show 'em!

 
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MattFancy said:
Should Evangelicals Be Upset Over The New Starbucks Christmas Cups?

People are enraged that Starbucks' red cups aren't Christmas-y enough this year

Donald Trump suggests a boycott of Starbucks and its plain red cups

How is this really a thing? So Starbucks hates Christmas because their red cups this year have nothing on them? Does them selling Advent Calendars and Christmas Blend coffee not mean anything? I'm so confused by this faux outrage!
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Good, I'm glad you're confused. That shows that our strategy in the War on Christmas is working. It's a slow creep, you see. First we come for the decorations on the red cups, then we make the Target people stop saying Merry Christmas. Slowly we get more and more people to view Christmas as a secular holiday. Then before you even realize what's happening ... boom, sharia law. Churches taken over and converted to mosques, synagogues and wherever people go to celebrate Kwanzaa. Christians forced to bake wedding cakes for gay couples. It's all coming. One step at a time, though.

 
I am convinced no one takes these stories seriously but it just generates clicks/views only because of how dumb it is, which in turn makes it news because of how many clicks/views it has.

Got to be it, right?

 
The General said:
I am convinced no one takes these stories seriously but it just generates clicks/views only because of how dumb it is, which in turn makes it news because of how many clicks/views it has.

Got to be it, right?
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It becomes a story because of the absent minded people on FB that will share anything without looking into an issue.

A quick search of Starbucks' website returns this: http://store.starbucks.com/coffee/holiday-coffee/?nofilter=false

and this: http://store.starbucks.com/starbucks-advent-calendar-2015-011052242.html?&srule=Featured&start=0&sz=12&cgid=festive-collection&nofilter=false

But people don't seem to want to look into anything anymore and just brainlessly repost crap on FB.

 
The General said:
I am convinced no one takes these stories seriously but it just generates clicks/views only because of how dumb it is, which in turn makes it news because of how many clicks/views it has.

Got to be it, right?
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thought I read somewhere that CNN actually put the video maker Feuerstein on the air. Not sure about that though.
 
TobiasFunke said:
MattFancy said:
Should Evangelicals Be Upset Over The New Starbucks Christmas Cups?

People are enraged that Starbucks' red cups aren't Christmas-y enough this year

Donald Trump suggests a boycott of Starbucks and its plain red cups

How is this really a thing? So Starbucks hates Christmas because their red cups this year have nothing on them? Does them selling Advent Calendars and Christmas Blend coffee not mean anything? I'm so confused by this faux outrage!
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Good, I'm glad you're confused. That shows that our strategy in the War on Christmas is working. It's a slow creep, you see. First we come for the decorations on the red cups, then we make the Target people stop saying Merry Christmas. Slowly we get more and more people to view Christmas as a secular holiday. Then before you even realize what's happening ... boom, sharia law. Churches taken over and converted to mosques, synagogues and wherever people go to celebrate Kwanzaa. Christians forced to bake wedding cakes for gay couples. It's all coming. One step at a time, though.
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:lmao:

I'm Catholic, and I'll say I fall in the middle on this whole topic. On one hand, I agree that if I was a part of another religion the Christmas season would make me feel excluded. "Muting" Christmas as a blanket statement doesn't offend me with the above said, I get all of that. On the other hand, what I think does rub me the wrong way is Retail America's willingness to profit off of the Christmas shopping season in the form of sales, etc., while at the same time basically calling holy war on using the actual term Christmas during the Christmas season. I get that the term "Holiday" season has been overlay-ed over Christmas season to allow Retail America to address both fronts: Holiday season religious inclusion and max profit motive. I guess where I struggle is Retail America riding the coat tails of Christmas to hit year-end sales targets and not even acknowledging the actual holiday anymore. The Starbucks red cup is still a ridiculous reach, though. It's a red cup, let's be reasonable. I think the above is moreso related to big-box retail sales related to Christmas gift giving.

Can we just go with "Year-end Sales" from now on? I'd be good with it personally for whatever that's worth. Just seems sort of dirty for Retail America to be double dipping on Christmas while refusing to acknowledge it.

 
mquinnjr said:
TobiasFunke said:
MattFancy said:
Should Evangelicals Be Upset Over The New Starbucks Christmas Cups?

People are enraged that Starbucks' red cups aren't Christmas-y enough this year

Donald Trump suggests a boycott of Starbucks and its plain red cups

How is this really a thing? So Starbucks hates Christmas because their red cups this year have nothing on them? Does them selling Advent Calendars and Christmas Blend coffee not mean anything? I'm so confused by this faux outrage!
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Good, I'm glad you're confused. That shows that our strategy in the War on Christmas is working. It's a slow creep, you see. First we come for the decorations on the red cups, then we make the Target people stop saying Merry Christmas. Slowly we get more and more people to view Christmas as a secular holiday. Then before you even realize what's happening ... boom, sharia law. Churches taken over and converted to mosques, synagogues and wherever people go to celebrate Kwanzaa. Christians forced to bake wedding cakes for gay couples. It's all coming. One step at a time, though.
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:lmao:

I'm Catholic, and I'll say I fall in the middle on this whole topic. On one hand, I agree that if I was a part of another religion the Christmas season would make me feel excluded. "Muting" Christmas as a blanket statement doesn't offend me with the above said, I get all of that. On the other hand, what I think does rub me the wrong way is Retail America's willingness to profit off of the Christmas shopping season in the form of sales, etc., while at the same time basically calling holy war on using the actual term Christmas during the Christmas season. I get that the term "Holiday" season has been overlay-ed over Christmas season to allow Retail America to address both fronts: Holiday season religious inclusion and max profit motive. I guess where I struggle is Retail America riding the coat tails of Christmas to hit year-end sales targets and not even acknowledging the actual holiday anymore. The Starbucks red cup is still a ridiculous reach, though. It's a red cup, let's be reasonable. I think the above is moreso related to big-box retail sales related to Christmas gift giving.

Can we just go with "Year-end Sales" from now on? I'd be good with it personally for whatever that's worth. Just seems sort of dirty for Retail America to be double dipping on Christmas while refusing to acknowledge it.
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I'm Catholic as well and find the whole War on Christmas narrative absolutely ridiculous. I don't care what workers in a store do or don't say to me when I'm shopping, and I don't care if stores try to profit off of Christmas and have it both ways.

Good luck to them. I'm going to shop where I find the best deals and whether they embrace the holiday or not is beside the point. Regardless, even if they are willing to say Merry Christmas, the Christmas they are referencing has no relation to the Christmas we celebrate at Mass. Is it really any better if they go down that path than just avoiding the phrase altogether.

 
Anyone care to explain to me how a snowflake means Christmas/Jesus?? A snowflake means winter time. And just when you think Trump has hit a new level of craziness, he goes crazier calling for boycott of Starbucks. :loco: I say we boycott his businesses..

 
MattFancy said:
The General said:
I am convinced no one takes these stories seriously but it just generates clicks/views only because of how dumb it is, which in turn makes it news because of how many clicks/views it has.

Got to be it, right?
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It becomes a story because of the absent minded people on FB that will share anything without looking into an issue.

A quick search of Starbucks' website returns this: http://store.starbucks.com/coffee/holiday-coffee/?nofilter=false

and this: http://store.starbucks.com/starbucks-advent-calendar-2015-011052242.html?&srule=Featured&start=0&sz=12&cgid=festive-collection&nofilter=false

But people don't seem to want to look into anything anymore and just brainlessly repost crap on FB.
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Just another reason to not be on FB.

 
Starbucks Christmas design this year is just bad in general. On the cups that are served cold they have this sprinkled snow look that makes it look like there's a bunch of white #### floating in your cup.

Less of a war on Xmas and more on a marketing design that just missed the boat this year. Considering Xmas music is now streaming 24/7 on Sirius starting this week I think Xmas will survive.

 
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Its all Obama's fault, getting the Muslim Brotherhood to declare war on Christmas.

Everything's Obama's fault; even the design of the cups used in an overpriced coffee shop. :tinfoilhat:

 
Why exactly did they take the Christmas graphics off the cups? If it was specifically to avoid offending some people, then I am indeed offended.

 
CurlyNight said:
Anyone care to explain to me how a snowflake means Christmas/Jesus?? A snowflake means winter time. And just when you think Trump has hit a new level of craziness, he goes crazier calling for boycott of Starbucks. :loco: I say we boycott his businesses..
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Yet, there were probably people crazy enough to be offended by those snowflakes because in their deranged mind it was a nod to Christmas.

Works both ways.

 
James Daulton said:
Why exactly did they take the Christmas graphics off the cups? If it was specifically to avoid offending some people, then I am indeed offended.
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I don't think there were every truly "Christmas" graphics on the cups. To be 100% honest, I couldn't even tell you what was on it the last few years. I've been drinking Starbucks for years and honestly just thought the cups were always just red this time of the year.

Their reasoning for the design this year is to give everyone a "blank canvas".

 
This has the feeling of a very manufactured thing. Trump jumping on it does little to dissuade me of that.

I see very little "outrage" by any respected religious group or news outlet. It's more people commenting on the outrage than actual outrage.

 
jwb said:
This has the feeling of a very manufactured thing. Trump jumping on it does little to dissuade me of that.

I see very little "outrage" by any respected religious group or news outlet. It's more people commenting on the outrage than actual outrage.
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Trigger fingers turn to Twitter fingers!

Side note/hijack: The cover art for that single is the background of another more famous picture - Joe Carter's walk-off WS winning home run in the '93 World Series. As a life long Phils fan, that cut will never heal, thanks Drake. Here's the actual single cover: http://stereoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Back-To-Back-Single.jpgand the Joe Carter HR: http://i.imgur.com/oaybz3v.png

 
James Daulton said:
Why exactly did they take the Christmas graphics off the cups? If it was specifically to avoid offending some people, then I am indeed offended.
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The graphics were not even close to "Christmas" graphics:

2014: Snowflakes

2013: Snowflakes and ornaments

2012: Snowman

2011: Boy and dog sleding

2010: Snowflakes and people singing

 
The PR person at SBUX who invented this "controversy" deserves some sort of a marketing lifetime achievement award. Well done sir, bravo to you!

 
Joe Summer said:
CurlyNight said:
Anyone care to explain to me how a snowflake means Christmas/Jesus?? A snowflake means winter time. And just when you think Trump has hit a new level of craziness, he goes crazier calling for boycott of Starbucks. :loco: I say we boycott his businesses..
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"Happy Holidays from the Trump Hotel collection"
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Haha! Where is the word Christmas and reference to Jesus in this?? Oh I know, this design was done without Trump's knowledge. What a ####o. :loco:

 
It's funny how mad the Christmas nerds get. They're even worse than the oversensitive PC nerds. Worth it for that alone IMO. If I owned Kmart or some bit chain I would issue a memo saying we should eliminate Christmas trees and Santa so we don't offend anyone. Only to see a lot of stupid people lose their ####.

 
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