WAY too early top 10 lists (1 Viewer)

[MattFancy]

Here are my way too early top 10s:

QB:

Manning

Brees

Rodgers

Brady

Newton

Foles

Luck

Stafford

Ryan

Wilson

RB:

Charles

McCoy

Forte

Peterson

Murrary

Lynch

Lacy

LBell

Martin

Stacy

WR:

Calvin

Green

Gordon

DThomas

Bryant

Julio

Marshall

Brown

DJackson

Garcon

TE:

Graham

JThomas

Gronk (will he miss any time at the beginning)

Davis

Cameron

Reed

Olsen

Allen

Witten

Gates

Deabte!

 

[Spike]

Deabte?

Is this re-draft or dynasty/keeper?

 

[MattFancy]

Deabte?

Is this re-draft or dynasty/keeper?

I guess mainly redraft, but could use as dyno/keeper for next year's value.

 

[BobbyLayne]

from Pro Football Focus:

Quarterback

1 Peyton Manning

2 Drew Brees

3 Aaron Rodgers

4 Nick Foles

5 Matthew Stafford

6 Cam Newton

7 Matt Ryan

8 Andrew Luck

9 Russell Wilson

10 Philip Rivers

11 Tom Brady

12 Robert Griffin III

13 Tony Romo

14 Jay Cutler

15 Colin Kaepernick

16 Andy Dalton

17 Ryan Tannehill

18 Ben Roethlisberger

19 Eli Manning

20 Alex D. Smith

21 Joe Flacco

22 Sam Bradford

23 E.J. Manuel

24 Mike Glennon

25 Michael Vick

26 Carson Palmer

27 Geno Smith

28 Brian Hoyer

29 Jake Locker

30 Matt Schaub

31 Josh McCown

32 Kirk Cousins

33 Josh Freeman

34 Christian Ponder

35 Terrelle Pryor

36 Case Keenum

37 Matthew McGloin

38 Brock Osweiler

39 Drew Stanton

40 Ryan Mallett

41 Ryan Nassib

42 Matt Cassel

43 Ryan Fitzpatrick

44 Chad Henne

45 Kevin Kolb

46 Matt Moore

47 Mark Sanchez

48 Matt Barkley

49 Blaine Gabbert

50 Landry Jones

51 Chase Daniel

52 Thaddeus Lewis

53 Tyrod Taylor

54 Matt Flynn

55 T.J. Yates

56 Brandon Weeden

57 Colt McCoy

58 Matt Simms

59 Matt Hasselbeck

60 Kyle Orton

Running Back

1 LeSean McCoy

2 Jamaal Charles

3 Adrian L. Peterson

4 Matt Forte

5 Eddie Lacy

6 Doug Martin

7 Marshawn Lynch

8 DeMarco Murray

9 Zac Stacy

10 Arian Foster

11 Alfred Morris

12 Reggie Bush

13 Giovani Bernard

14 Ray Rice

15 Shane Vereen

16 Le’Veon Bell

17 Stevan Ridley

18 Knowshon Moreno

19 C.J. Spiller

20 Frank Gore

21 Andre Ellington

22 Ryan Mathews

23 Chris D. Johnson

24 Steven Jackson

25 Ben Tate

26 David Wilson

27 Maurice Jones-Drew

28 Montee Ball

29 Darren Sproles

30 Trent Richardson

31 Lamar Miller

32 Fred Jackson

33 Joique Bell

34 Bernard Pierce

35 Pierre Thomas

36 Jonathan Stewart

37 Darren McFadden

38 Andre Brown

39 Rashad Jennings

40 DeAngelo Williams

41 Chris Ivory

42 Danny Woodhead

43 Christine Michael

44 Donald Brown

45 Jacquizz Rodgers

46 Marcus Lattimore

47 Latavius Murray

48 Bilal Powell

49 Knile Davis

50 Rashard Mendenhall

51 Mark Ingram

52 Dion Lewis

53 Roy Helu

54 Kendall Hunter

55 Daniel Thomas

56 Bryce Brown

57 Toby Gerhart

58 Bobby Rainey

59 James Starks

60 Vick Ballard

61 Shonn Greene

62 Johnathan Franklin

63 Robert Turbin

64 Ronnie Hillman

65 BenJarvus Green-Ellis

66 Ahmad Bradshaw

67 Dennis Johnson

68 Denard Robinson

69 Mikel Leshoure

70 Marcel Reece

71 LeGarrette Blount

72 Lance Dunbar

73 Stepfan Taylor

74 Daryl Richardson

75 C.J. Anderson

76 Chris Polk

77 Mike James

78 Kenjon Barner

79 Mike Gillislee

80 Mike Goodson

Wide Receiver

1 Calvin Johnson

2 Julio Jones

3 Josh Gordon

4 Dez Bryant

5 A.J. Green

6 Demaryius Thomas

7 Alshon Jeffery

8 Brandon Marshall

9 Vincent Jackson

10 Antonio Brown

11 Pierre Garcon

12 Jordy Nelson

13 Randall Cobb

14 Larry Fitzgerald

15 Andre Johnson

16 Wes Welker

17 Michael Crabtree

18 Percy Harvin

19 Victor Cruz

20 Keenan Allen

21 Kendall Wright

22 DeSean Jackson

23 Reggie Wayne

24 Eric Decker

25 Torrey Smith

26 Cecil Shorts

27 Michael Floyd

28 Mike Wallace

29 Cordarrelle Patterson

30 Rueben Randle

31 Jeremy Maclin

32 Marques Colston

33 DeAndre Hopkins

34 Roddy White

35 T.Y. Hilton

36 Tavon Austin

37 Aaron Dobson

38 Terrance Williams

39 Justin Blackmon

40 Danny Amendola

41 Dwayne Bowe

42 Hakeem Nicks

43 Marvin Jones

44 Steve L. Smith

45 James Jones

46 Greg Jennings

47 Steve Johnson

48 Golden Tate

49 Brian Hartline

50 Justin Hunter

51 Mike A. Williams

52 Robert Woods

53 Markus Wheaton

54 Emmanuel Sanders

55 Anquan Boldin

56 Kenny Stills

57 Julian Edelman

58 Marquise Goodwin

59 Riley Cooper

60 Da’Rick Rogers

61 Malcom Floyd

62 Denarius Moore

63 Jeremy Kerley

64 Marlon Brown

65 Kenbrell Thompkins

66 Stedman Bailey

67 Quinton Patton

68 Stephen Hill

69 Danario Alexander

70 Brandon LaFell

71 Harry Douglas

72 Miles Austin

73 Nate Burleson

74 Sidney Rice

75 Chris Givens

76 Josh Boyce

77 Ace Sanders

78 Jermaine Kearse

79 Jarrett Boykin

80 LaVon Brazill

81 Doug Baldwin

82 Kenny Britt

83 Joe Morgan

84 Santonio Holmes

85 Nate Washington

86 Aldrick Robinson

87 Leonard Hankerson

88 Andre Holmes

89 Mohamed Sanu

90 Andre Roberts

Tight End

1 Jimmy Graham

2 Rob Gronkowski

3 Julius Thomas

4 Vernon Davis

5 Jordan Cameron

6 Jason Witten

7 Jordan Reed

8 Greg Olsen

9 Martellus Bennett

10 Dennis Pitta

11 Antonio Gates

12 Zach Ertz

13 Kyle Rudolph

14 Coby Fleener

15 Charles Clay

16 Tyler Eifert

17 Heath Miller

18 Delanie Walker

19 Owen Daniels

20 Jermichael Finley

21 Ladarius Green

22 Jared Cook

23 Travis Kelce

24 Dwayne Allen

25 Timothy Wright

26 Levine Toilolo

27 Rob Housler

28 Marcedes Lewis

29 Joseph Fauria

30 Jermaine Gresham

31 Zach J. Miller

32 Brandon Myers

33 Garrett Graham

34 Scott Chandler

35 Brandon Bostick

36 Dustin Keller

37 Fred Davis

38 Mychal Rivera

39 Brandon Pettigrew

40 Adrien Robinson

41 Vance McDonald

42 Dion Sims

43 Gavin Escobar

44 Luke Willson

45 Taylor Thompson

46 Anthony Fasano

47 Brent Celek

48 Ed Dickson

49 Sean McGrath

50 Ryan Griffin

51 Lance Kendricks

52 Jacob Tamme

53 Andrew Quarless

54 Jeff Cumberland

55 John Carlsonl

The original article has contract info listed as well:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/12/20/early-2014-fantasy-football-rankings/

 

[jeaton6]

PPR? I think Foster and Bush are right there both over Stacy. I think the Jake Long ACL/MCL causes Stacy to fall a bit.

Jeffery and Cobb also right there. Jackson's been great and I think he'll be drafted in top 10 but he's not in my top 10 given high scoring variance, relatively low total targets(#24), high weekly target variance and high target conversion rate (wouldn't be shocked to see drop from 64.8 to mid to high 50's consistent with all the other top ypc receivers). Will be interested to see if Maclin comes back how targets settle in Philly next year. Demean is prob top 15 for me.

 

[MattFancy]

PPR? I think Foster and Bush are right there both over Stacy. I think the Jake Long ACL/MCL causes Stacy to fall a bit.

Jeffery and Cobb also right there. Jackson's been great and I think he'll be drafted in top 10 but he's not in my top 10 given high scoring variance, relatively low total targets(#24), high weekly target variance and high target conversion rate (wouldn't be shocked to see drop from 64.8 to mid to high 50's consistent with all the other top ypc receivers). Will be interested to see if Maclin comes back how targets settle in Philly next year. Demean is prob top 15 for me.

Cobb and Jeffery could definitely be top 10 guys next year for sure. Seems like WR is looking pretty deep again.

 

[jeaton6]

Yes and QB too. Late QB is def the way to go next year. Number 4 and 17 QBs only separated by 3 ppg (late 4th round vs 11th round or so ADP). Compared to WR 18 vs 51 (respectively drafted in same rounds) which had about 5-6 ppg difference. One year doesn't make a trend but this is pretty telling. Obviously you have to hit on picks too.

 

[MattFancy]

Yes and QB too. Late QB is def the way to go next year. Number 4 and 17 QBs only separated by 3 ppg (late 4th round vs 11th round or so ADP). Compared to WR 18 vs 51 (respectively drafted in same rounds) which had about 5-6 ppg difference. One year doesn't make a trend but this is pretty telling. Obviously you have to hit on picks too.

I was just looking at QBs in my main league. The difference between QB3 and QB 15 was 3ppg. Which means that outside of Manning/Brees the rest were pretty equal. Even RG3 who hasn't played the last 2 games has a 5ppg differential than QB3. Just crazy how much depth there is at QB now.

 

[Rick James]

I think you'll see Matt Ryan have a bounce back next year. If you look at the stats, he's 5th in passing yards, but 11th in passing TD's. With a healthy Julio and hopefully an improved OL, he should be a solid QB again next year.

Yes and QB too. Late QB is def the way to go next year. Number 4 and 17 QBs only separated by 3 ppg (late 4th round vs 11th round or so ADP). Compared to WR 18 vs 51 (respectively drafted in same rounds) which had about 5-6 ppg difference. One year doesn't make a trend but this is pretty telling. Obviously you have to hit on picks too.

I was just looking at QBs in my main league. The difference between QB3 and QB 15 was 3ppg. Which means that outside of Manning/Brees the rest were pretty equal. Even RG3 who hasn't played the last 2 games has a 5ppg differential than QB3. Just crazy how much depth there is at QB now.

I was shocked to see Andy Dalton finish at QB4 in my league.

 

[Soulfly3]

Josh Gordon was, without question the best of the best of WRs this season.

Yes, above Calvin.

Look at those stats w 2 games missed, and considering his QB. Might be one of the all time great (fantasy) seasons by a WR all things considered.

 

[MattFancy]

I think you'll see Matt Ryan have a bounce back next year. If you look at the stats, he's 5th in passing yards, but 11th in passing TD's. With a healthy Julio and hopefully an improved OL, he should be a solid QB again next year.

Yes and QB too. Late QB is def the way to go next year. Number 4 and 17 QBs only separated by 3 ppg (late 4th round vs 11th round or so ADP). Compared to WR 18 vs 51 (respectively drafted in same rounds) which had about 5-6 ppg difference. One year doesn't make a trend but this is pretty telling. Obviously you have to hit on picks too.

I was just looking at QBs in my main league. The difference between QB3 and QB 15 was 3ppg. Which means that outside of Manning/Brees the rest were pretty equal. Even RG3 who hasn't played the last 2 games has a 5ppg differential than QB3. Just crazy how much depth there is at QB now.

I was shocked to see Andy Dalton finish at QB4 in my league.

Dalton was QB3 in mine. Never would've seen that coming at the beginning of the year. I would've thought maybe a Top 10 finish, not a top 3. Think he has the potential if Jones/Sanu can emerge as a viable WR2 for them. Plus Eifert or Gresham should continue to be a solid TE. Dalton could be a nice sleeper next year.

 

[jeaton6]

Agreed but he is so inconsistent he probably will be drafted as a high end qb2 next year. If his receiving core is healthy he should outperform. He was an excellent matchup play this year.

 

[mikel0254]

Josh Gordon was, without question the best of the best of WRs this season.

Yes, above Calvin.

Look at those stats w 2 games missed, and considering his QB. Might be one of the all time great (fantasy) seasons by a WR all things considered.

Agreed, but I still don't think I could take him before Calvin next year. I'll take the guy who's played at that insane level for 4 years in a row. But I definitely agree that Gordon will be right up there for a long time. This is of course assuming there's nothing structurally wrong with Calvin's knee.

 

[MattFancy]

Josh Gordon was, without question the best of the best of WRs this season.

Yes, above Calvin.

Look at those stats w 2 games missed, and considering his QB. Might be one of the all time great (fantasy) seasons by a WR all things considered.

Agreed, but I still don't think I could take him before Calvin next year. I'll take the guy who's played at that insane level for 4 years in a row. But I definitely agree that Gordon will be right up there for a long time. This is of course assuming there's nothing structurally wrong with Calvin's knee.

Only thing with Gordon is he's one strike away from being gone for the season

 

[purestrength]

Hmmm. Is waiting on a QB the way to go next year?

 

[Shutout]

Yep, Gordon is a hot hot name right now. But I'd still take the proven guys and even Julio over him.

I think people have quickly forgotten just how special Julio jones is. His return will put him back in the top 2-3 and will boost roddy and Ryan both considerably.

I am leery of all things denver broncos in dynasty and in redraft. The all- time record breaking ones are just such a long shot to repeat and you have to KNOW that once Peyton goes, so goes the value of these guys. You also have legit questions on who will be running the ball there next year as well as if decker will be there as wells as if the welker concussion is something that doesn't pop back up.

And, the big gorilla in the room is what if the broncos win the Super Bowl and Peyton says "I'm going out on top". The broncos fantasy impact is at the same time the most enticing as well as the the most unstable in football.

 

[jeaton6]

Also, what about cutler? Combine him and McCown and it's 4,200 yards, 30 pass Tds and QB3. Probably drafted as low end QB1 so if he is healthy could be huge steal. I think I'm waiting til round 9/10 next year. Any ideas on Mannings ADP next year? My guess is mid first round but there will be some (probably not sharks) that take him number one overall based on what he's done this year.

 

[damageinc]

Josh Gordon is a super talented WR but that 4 game run was incredible matched maybe by Drew Bennet who in a 3 year span in I think 2004 had some stats the same. And he was drafted as a #1 WR the next year (By me) and was never that good again,.Not comparing Gordon to Drew , just saying dont draft a guy based on 4 games. We have seen he has come down to earth now that teams know about him.He is still a #1 WR and top 5.

Edit: Just looked up Drews numbers during that 3 game span and it was 28 Receptions for 517 yards and 8 TD's . Yup 8 TD;s in 3 games.

 

[jurb26]

My top 10s

QB

Manning

Brees

Rogers

Stafford

Dalton

Luck

Newton

Rivers

Brady

Roethlisberger

RB

Charles

McCoy

Forte

Murray

Peterson

Lynch

Lacy

Bush

Moreno

Bell

WR

C. Johnson

Green

Gordon

J. Jones

D. Thomas

Bryant

Marshall

A. Brown

A. Johnson

D. Jackson

 

[donkshow]

If down to earth is a top 5 WR what is the problem?

 

[Shutout]

And in all these lists, guys like Justin Blackmon, Doug Martin, and David Wilson are completely forgotten.

It's going to be the most debated off season in history in regards to RB next year. Mark that down.

 

[monk]

Yep, Gordon is a hot hot name right now. But I'd still take the proven guys and even Julio over him.

I think people have quickly forgotten just how special Julio jones is. His return will put him back in the top 2-3 and will boost roddy and Ryan both considerably.

I am leery of all things denver broncos in dynasty and in redraft. The all- time record breaking ones are just such a long shot to repeat and you have to KNOW that once Peyton goes, so goes the value of these guys. You also have legit questions on who will be running the ball there next year as well as if decker will be there as wells as if the welker concussion is something that doesn't pop back up.

And, the big gorilla in the room is what if the broncos win the Super Bowl and Peyton says "I'm going out on top". The broncos fantasy impact is at the same time the most enticing as well as the the most unstable in football.

Comparing their the 2nd seasons ... Gordon has been a lot more special!

 

[monk]

Josh Gordon is a super talented WR but that 4 game run was incredible matched maybe by Drew Bennet who in a 3 year span in I think 2004 had some stats the same. And he was drafted as a #1 WR the next year (By me) and was never that good again,.Not comparing Gordon to Drew , just saying dont draft a guy based on 4 games. We have seen he has come down to earth now that teams know about him.He is still a #1 WR and top 5.

Edit: Just looked up Drews numbers during that 3 game span and it was 28 Receptions for 517 yards and 8 TD's . Yup 8 TD;s in 3 games.

Bennett is a bad comparison. He sucked for almost 4 season before having 3 great games and then he sucked for the remaining 2 games of that season.

Gordon had 7 100 yd+ games this year (2 of them well over 200 yds) he also had over 800 yards as a rookie.

The concern is not whether he will continue to be good but whether he will be suspended again.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Re: Ryan - I agree. He was really pretty good the first 7 games or so. Consistent, good performances.

Re: Dalton - he had 2 huge games, I think 3 very good ones and several clunkers. If he is getting drafted like a Qb1, I will pass.

 

[jeaton6]

Yes and last I heard the "next one is a year long" is conjecture, not fact based.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Re: Dalton - he had 2 huge games, I think 3 very good ones and several clunkers. If he is getting drafted like a Qb1, I will pass.

He certainly appears to be improving every year and he still has room to improve.

If the formation involves more Gio, then more passing is likely.

In Daltons 4-or-5 "duds" this year > 3 coincide with a lack of passing attempts.

In the previous year he was very good as well (top 10 ppg).. so long as you avoided the Ravens and Steelers.

 

[jurb26]

And in all these lists, guys like Justin Blackmon, Doug Martin, and David Wilson are completely forgotten.

It's going to be the most debated off season in history in regards to RB next year. Mark that down.

Blackmon and Wilson were never in my top 10 this year. They aren't forgotten, I just never had them that high. Martin is a bit of a different story. I had him in the top 5 this year. Unfortunately I wasn't impressed with what I saw even before he got injured. I actually traded him away in dynasty. On top of that some rather mediocre RBs came in after him and looked just as good if not better than him. I have a hard time putting him in the top 10 based on that. Things could change between now and next season of course.