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Week 1 waiver wire pickup. Who will it be? (1 Viewer)

The%20Dude said:
ponchsox said:
Ketamine%20Dreams said:
Joique Bell maybe. DET run game looking good, but Bush already dinged his hand. Reggie is fine, but brittle.
Shallow leagues maybe
Does that contribute anything to the thread?
No, but neither does listing a player who is already rostered in any league worth a damn.
Joique Bell is available in 40% of MFL leagues and 69% of Yahoo leagues. That alone makes him a valid topic for this thread.

If you want to argue that 40% of MFL leagues aren't worth a damn, start a new thread. Good luck with that.

 
The%20Dude said:
ponchsox said:
Ketamine%20Dreams said:
Joique Bell maybe. DET run game looking good, but Bush already dinged his hand. Reggie is fine, but brittle.
Shallow leagues maybe
Does that contribute anything to the thread?
No, but neither does listing a player who is already rostered in any league worth a damn.
Joique Bell is available in 40% of MFL leagues and 69% of Yahoo leagues. That alone makes him a valid topic for this thread.

If you want to argue that 40% of MFL leagues aren't worth a damn, start a new thread. Good luck with that.
SMACK!!!

 
The%20Dude said:
ponchsox said:
Ketamine%20Dreams said:
Joique Bell maybe. DET run game looking good, but Bush already dinged his hand. Reggie is fine, but brittle.
Shallow leagues maybe
Does that contribute anything to the thread?
No, but neither does listing a player who is already rostered in any league worth a damn.
Joique Bell is available in 40% of MFL leagues and 69% of Yahoo leagues. That alone makes him a valid topic for this thread.

If you want to argue that 40% of MFL leagues aren't worth a damn, start a new thread. Good luck with that.
Wow. Seems like utter madness to me, but then again, these are people playing yahoo leagues. ;) :lol:

 
Looks like Da'rell Scott could be a solid pickup based on the Giants/Cowboys game and Wilson's fumbling issues.

 
Outside of Julius Thomas, I honestly don't see a pickup that I think is worth it this week. Out of the WRs, Hartline is the only one I can see helping teams. Unless you have a gaping hole at WR, he's probably not worth the waiver priority or the larger than normal bids after week 1. If Bell or F Jax is available, pick them up, but nothing has changed from before the season when you didn't grab them. They are not comfortable starts unless the main RBs get injured. I'll probably let everyone else overreact this week and see if anyone makes some dumb drops or is willing to do a panic trade.

 
Outside of Julius Thomas, I honestly don't see a pickup that I think is worth it this week. Out of the WRs, Hartline is the only one I can see helping teams. Unless you have a gaping hole at WR, he's probably not worth the waiver priority or the larger than normal bids after week 1. If Bell or F Jax is available, pick them up, but nothing has changed from before the season when you didn't grab them. They are not comfortable starts unless the main RBs get injured. I'll probably let everyone else overreact this week and see if anyone makes some dumb drops or is willing to do a panic trade.
Actually. I have the 5th waiver priorty. Gonna hold so I can move up. See if anyone makes some dumb drops

 
There's question marks around most of the guys mentioned so far. I would take a shot at the guy where you're not too worried about his or his situation's question marks.

Edelman - Probably not as big piece in the offense when Gronk gets back

Jerome Simpson - worth it if Patterson isn't ready and needs to wait a season

Scott - can be the guy until Brown comes back, and they don't give Wilson another shot, and they don't sign someone else

Julius Thomas - what's the health of the other tight ends on this team?

Jackie Battle - What's the status of Shonn Greene?

Joique Bell - Will Bush get nicked up this year? Is Leshoure now an after thought on this team?

I'm very interested in Jets wide receivers. If the offense isn't completely abysmal, there is some value here if a #1 guys emerges as Geno's favorite target. Kellen Winslow possibly?

I'm not really posting in favor or against the guys previously mentioned, but I do want to start a discussion of their, and their situation's question marks.

 
Could be Bryce Brown in shallower leagues, I think he gets 10 touches MINIMUM if the eagles offense resembles anything close to what the Bills were doing.

 
I think depending on the scoring system, Pryor might have to be the #2 option this week outside of Julius Thomas.

He won't get 100 yards on the ground every week, but his rushing gives him at worst a solid floor.

Agree that no RBs or WRs really came out of nowhere to warrant a high pick (unless a Bell or someone happens to be available)

 
If Pryor's available, that may be the best grab. No sense arguing about his talent. Running QBs tend to be fantasy producers in all but 6 pt passing TD leagues. He put up decent points and only accounted for one score. He probably has the safest floor of anyone available and has a nice ceiling as a matchup play.

And he gets the lowly Jags next week. Another decent game and his trade value should be even higher if you're not sold and would like to flip him.

In most leagues, he'll be an adequate QB start barring injury/benching. And I think after his road performance yesterday, he's not getting benched for a couple weeks at least.

 
Pierre Thomas where available.

He was drafted in both my leagues (one by me) but drafted way behind Ingram and Sproles. He's always been a more productive back than Ingram and proved so (significantly) again yesterday.

  • The carries were: Thomas 9 (4.8 ypc), Ingram 9 (1.2 ypc), and Sproles 8 (2.8 ypc)
  • The total touches were: Thomas 13 (59 total yards), Ingram 9 (11 total yards), and Sproles 14 (110 total yards)
I see Thomas cutting into Ingram's carries significantly, possibly as soon as this week. I think we'll start seeing something like:

  • Thomas 14
  • Sproles 8
  • Ingram 4
If Thomas is going to get double digit carries and 3-4 catches in the New Orleans offense, he is a great add in leagues where he's available.

 
League to league it will vary - but in the 12 team IDP league I am in the names being bandied about are:

Greg Hartline

Jerome Simpson

Robert Woods

Phillip Wheeler

Duke Ihenacho

Daryl Smith

Erin Henderson

I am looking at the Stills kid from NO, but am unsure how Toon and Meachem will fit into the picture so not ready to pull the trigger on a guy that could just rot on my bench with a big game every 7-8 games.

 
Pierre Thomas where available.

He was drafted in both my leagues (one by me) but drafted way behind Ingram and Sproles. He's always been a more productive back than Ingram and proved so (significantly) again yesterday.

  • The carries were: Thomas 9 (4.8 ypc), Ingram 9 (1.2 ypc), and Sproles 8 (2.8 ypc)
  • The total touches were: Thomas 13 (59 total yards), Ingram 9 (11 total yards), and Sproles 14 (110 total yards)
I see Thomas cutting into Ingram's carries significantly, possibly as soon as this week. I think we'll start seeing something like:

  • Thomas 14
  • Sproles 8
  • Ingram 4
If Thomas is going to get double digit carries and 3-4 catches in the New Orleans offense, he is a great add in leagues where he's available.
Yeah - what is a nightmare though is having more than one of these guys and then second guessing which one to start. One is not enough and two may be too many.

 
Willis Mcgahee
One of the best backs at pass-protection and runs between the tackles in 2011 and 2012, per PFF. He had a few untimely fumbles last year, but if he's recovered from the MCl and knee compression (wtf is that) injuries, he 's just what the doctor ordered. He'll be 32 next month and Jacobs is 31.

 
There is no sense in posting bashing someone for naming a guy gone in Your league.

There are many 10 team leagues with short benches, plenty of guy's available in there.

(some leagues purposely leave shallow benches to help injuries, make moves happen)

Posting saying someone shouldn't be available in real leagues helps no one.. It's stupid!

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Pryor(10 team 2 QB league) and Hartline in another are 2 I'm targeting here..

What about ?

Doug Baldwin, Sea WR

Kenny Stills, NO WR

Julian Edelman, NE WR

Shallow leagues that don't play TE specific position are these guy's worthy?

Jared Cook, StL TE

Jordan Cameron, Cle TE

Rostered in "most" leagues but do these guy's have any more upside now?

Shane Vereen, NE RB

Fred Jackson, Buf RB

Joique Bell, Det RB

Threads like these "can" be helpful for all leagues, from casual to high stakes.

(should post your thoughts and suggestions based on your league settings)

 
Kellen freaking Winslow?
Yep. They are trying to preserve him and keep him healthy (he doesn't practice Wednesdays) and I think that's largely b/c he's figuring bigger in the plans than realized. Seriously. A veteran TE with a rookie QB - usually good stuff.

-QG

 
There is no sense in posting bashing someone for naming a guy gone in Your league.

There are many 10 team leagues with short benches, plenty of guy's available in there.

(some leagues purposely leave shallow benches to help injuries, make moves happen)

Posting saying someone shouldn't be available in real leagues helps no one.. It's stupid!

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Pryor(10 team 2 QB league) and Hartline in another are 2 I'm targeting here.. Hartline is weird - I think when they get matchups they go crazy exploiting him (they did this last year - he can have big games when on a roll) - still a little leery myself with the presence of Wallace.

What about ?

Doug Baldwin, Sea WR <--- I feel like I can't properly comment on him. Didn't really pay mind to what happened there.

Kenny Stills, NO WR <--- NO diversifies the offense to the point that I am leery of down-the-line guys like this for them.

Julian Edelman, NE WR <---- NE mixes up the offenses but this is a guy they know and are apt to trust, especially after that first game. Very hard to ignore at this point. Gronk return may drop him down the food chain a bit but I still like him.

Shallow leagues that don't play TE specific position are these guy's worthy?

Jared Cook, StL TE <--- should be rostered in most leagues already but if he's on the wire you should run, not walk, to get him. Just read the above. Still think Cook worthy of a spot.

Jordan Cameron, Cle TE <--- same as Cook but more likely to be available. Cook the better grab in redraft. W/o dedicated TE he drops a little bit. But these days TEs are pwning offenses.

Rostered in "most" leagues but do these guy's have any more upside now?

Shane Vereen, NE RB <---- Same as Cook. NE offense a little more feast or famine as they mix up their game plans but he's a guy that should be on rosters.

Fred Jackson, Buf RB <---- It's hard b/c the upside is a Buffalo RBBC unless Spiller gets hurt. That's hard to get excited about.

Joique Bell, Det RB <---- Should be rostered. He's the goal-line back and is part of the offense even with all of the work Bush got. And that's not even counting the idea of Bush possibly getting hurt.

Threads like these "can" be helpful for all leagues, from casual to high stakes.

(should post your thoughts and suggestions based on your league settings)
See comments on players above.

-QG

 
Pierre Thomas where available.

He was drafted in both my leagues (one by me) but drafted way behind Ingram and Sproles. He's always been a more productive back than Ingram and proved so (significantly) again yesterday.

  • The carries were: Thomas 9 (4.8 ypc), Ingram 9 (1.2 ypc), and Sproles 8 (2.8 ypc)
  • The total touches were: Thomas 13 (59 total yards), Ingram 9 (11 total yards), and Sproles 14 (110 total yards)
I see Thomas cutting into Ingram's carries significantly, possibly as soon as this week. I think we'll start seeing something like:

  • Thomas 14
  • Sproles 8
  • Ingram 4
If Thomas is going to get double digit carries and 3-4 catches in the New Orleans offense, he is a great add in leagues where he's available.
Yeah - what is a nightmare though is having more than one of these guys and then second guessing which one to start. One is not enough and two may be too many.
I own Thomas but this team is always tough to deal with when owning one of their RBs. Bye week poke and hope filler at this point.

-QG

 
Marlon Brown: gets Skrine/Owens week 2 and build momentum confidence.

Leon Washington: should get Vareens opportunity plus Sudfeld hammy injury means even less TE action.

Obviously Julius Thomas but he was drafted in my 2 leagues.

Dobson: Kenbrell didn't look good and Amendola injuries are pretty much guaranteed to come if not here already..

Re: Hartline. I'm betting week 2 he comes back to earth -should already be rostered anyhow..

 
There is no sense in posting bashing someone for naming a guy gone in Your league.

There are many 10 team leagues with short benches, plenty of guy's available in there.

(some leagues purposely leave shallow benches to help injuries, make moves happen)

Posting saying someone shouldn't be available in real leagues helps no one.. It's stupid!

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Pryor(10 team 2 QB league) and Hartline in another are 2 I'm targeting here.. Hartline is weird - I think when they get matchups they go crazy exploiting him (they did this last year - he can have big games when on a roll) - still a little leery myself with the presence of Wallace.

What about ?

Doug Baldwin, Sea WR <--- I feel like I can't properly comment on him. Didn't really pay mind to what happened there.

Kenny Stills, NO WR <--- NO diversifies the offense to the point that I am leery of down-the-line guys like this for them.

Julian Edelman, NE WR <---- NE mixes up the offenses but this is a guy they know and are apt to trust, especially after that first game. Very hard to ignore at this point. Gronk return may drop him down the food chain a bit but I still like him.

Shallow leagues that don't play TE specific position are these guy's worthy?

Jared Cook, StL TE <--- should be rostered in most leagues already but if he's on the wire you should run, not walk, to get him. Just read the above. Still think Cook worthy of a spot.

Jordan Cameron, Cle TE <--- same as Cook but more likely to be available. Cook the better grab in redraft. W/o dedicated TE he drops a little bit. But these days TEs are pwning offenses.

Rostered in "most" leagues but do these guy's have any more upside now?

Shane Vereen, NE RB <---- Same as Cook. NE offense a little more feast or famine as they mix up their game plans but he's a guy that should be on rosters.

Fred Jackson, Buf RB <---- It's hard b/c the upside is a Buffalo RBBC unless Spiller gets hurt. That's hard to get excited about.

Joique Bell, Det RB <---- Should be rostered. He's the goal-line back and is part of the offense even with all of the work Bush got. And that's not even counting the idea of Bush possibly getting hurt.

Threads like these "can" be helpful for all leagues, from casual to high stakes.

(should post your thoughts and suggestions based on your league settings)
See comments on players above.

-QG
Thanks for the comments QG, may have some backup questions but I like the insight. :)

 
Marlon Brown was not drafted a ton that I saw, worth picking up if available i'd think.

 
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I'm trying to decide if I should blow my #1 waiver spot on Edelman. He was productive even while Amendola was in, playing in almost 90% of the snaps. I just don't know how much PT he'll get once Gronk is back. If I was certain (I should be) that Amendola will be missing a good amount of time this year then I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.

 
I'm trying to decide if I should blow my #1 waiver spot on Edelman. He was productive even while Amendola was in, playing in almost 90% of the snaps. I just don't know how much PT he'll get once Gronk is back. If I was certain (I should be) that Amendola will be missing a good amount of time this year then I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.
I wouldn't since Amendola came back in and Gronk is due back like you said. He won't keep getting those RZ targets.

 
I'm trying to decide if I should blow my #1 waiver spot on Edelman. He was productive even while Amendola was in, playing in almost 90% of the snaps. I just don't know how much PT he'll get once Gronk is back. If I was certain (I should be) that Amendola will be missing a good amount of time this year then I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.
I wouldn't since Amendola came back in and Gronk is due back like you said. He won't keep getting those RZ targets.
I'm not worried about Amendola. Like I said, Edelman was in for almost 90% of the snaps. They went 3 wide almost the whole game and Edelman was that guy. The problem is they wont be going 3 wide the entire time when Gronk is back. I see Thompkins stepping up some as well. I think Edelman will have some big games and some really bad games if/when Amendola is healthy. If Amendola is down then Edelman is a must add.

 
Is Julian Thomas worth going all in with blind bid dollars or is that too much value? Obviously if you have Graham, etc he's not, but if you have a gap, is he a guaranteed closure to the gap?

 

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