Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
If two teams below .500 square off on a pseudo-National network, does anyone actually watch?
If you own any of them for fantasy purposes, perhaps...
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Week 14 Game Thread - Oakland Raiders at SD Chargers (1 Viewer)
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If two teams below .500 square off on a pseudo-National network, does anyone actually watch?
If you own any of them for fantasy purposes, perhaps...
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Hoping Rivers puts something up vs. the secondary and LT does what he usually does to the Raiders.
Maybe Castillo will get to the QB tonight if he plays.
Anyone think this game score 43 and Over?
Maybe Castillo will get to the QB tonight if he plays.
Anyone think this game score 43 and Over?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
INACTIVES:
Raiders: QB Marques Tuiasosopo (3rd), DB Michael Waddell, DB Darrick Brown, LB Ricky Brown, C Jake Grove, T James Marten, WR Ashley Lelie, DE Greyson Gunheim.
Chargers: QB Charlie Whitehurst (3rd), RB Michael Bennett, RB Billy Latsko, FB Mike Tolbert, G Kynan Forney, T Corey Clark, FB Kris Wilson, LB Marques Harris.
Yes, it's that bad - I highlighted Ashley Lelie....
Raiders: QB Marques Tuiasosopo (3rd), DB Michael Waddell, DB Darrick Brown, LB Ricky Brown, C Jake Grove, T James Marten, WR Ashley Lelie, DE Greyson Gunheim.
Chargers: QB Charlie Whitehurst (3rd), RB Michael Bennett, RB Billy Latsko, FB Mike Tolbert, G Kynan Forney, T Corey Clark, FB Kris Wilson, LB Marques Harris.
Yes, it's that bad - I highlighted Ashley Lelie....
SleeperPix
Footballguy
What are you expecting from Rivers? I had him in until 5 minutes ago....just debating between him and Ryan.Hoping Rivers puts something up vs. the secondary and LT does what he usually does to the Raiders.Maybe Castillo will get to the QB tonight if he plays.Anyone think this game score 43 and Over?
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
I want to say least 215 and a TD or 2 but thats my problem. Either I start Rivers or I start Mcnabb @ NYG. 1st round playoffs and I rather play guy who's in warmer weather who's been little more consistent recently.If I were you I'd play Ryan. Seems like better bet for higher scoring game.What are you expecting from Rivers? I had him in until 5 minutes ago....just debating between him and Ryan.Hoping Rivers puts something up vs. the secondary and LT does what he usually does to the Raiders.
Scruff Mcgruff
Footballguy
should be a barn burner.
coo2ie
Footballguy
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
This game has "bad" written all over it....but there is a decent possibility that there could be some fireworks.
LT2 should come out strong. Gates will be in the mix as well. Forget about the WRs.
The Powder Blues are a force though, gotta love that look.
The Raiders? That's the question. Will RunDMC actually...well....run? Or will Huggy Bear get all the love? Is Zach Miller going to do something tonight?
I would not be terribly surprised by any outcome here (aside from expecting the Chargers to win) - and by that I mean it could be 17-3 or 34-27. I'd lean towards the lower score, but if LT2 rolls the points will come. If Oakland wants to try and showcase something for the only big audience that they will get the rest of the way, ZMiller, Fargas and RunDMC may all play well.
I wouldn't touch this game with a 50' pole, but it could be more entertaining than you think.
LT2 should come out strong. Gates will be in the mix as well. Forget about the WRs.
The Powder Blues are a force though, gotta love that look.
The Raiders? That's the question. Will RunDMC actually...well....run? Or will Huggy Bear get all the love? Is Zach Miller going to do something tonight?
I would not be terribly surprised by any outcome here (aside from expecting the Chargers to win) - and by that I mean it could be 17-3 or 34-27. I'd lean towards the lower score, but if LT2 rolls the points will come. If Oakland wants to try and showcase something for the only big audience that they will get the rest of the way, ZMiller, Fargas and RunDMC may all play well.
I wouldn't touch this game with a 50' pole, but it could be more entertaining than you think.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
The KR is Justin Miller. JL Higgins does PR.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I have the same decision and am going with Rivers.I want to say least 215 and a TD or 2 but thats my problem. Either I start Rivers or I start Mcnabb @ NYG. 1st round playoffs and I rather play guy who's in warmer weather who's been little more consistent recently.If I were you I'd play Ryan. Seems like better bet for higher scoring game.What are you expecting from Rivers? I had him in until 5 minutes ago....just debating between him and Ryan.Hoping Rivers puts something up vs. the secondary and LT does what he usually does to the Raiders.Maybe Castillo will get to the QB tonight if he plays.Anyone think this game score 43 and Over?
timschochet
Footballguy
I'm not a Charger fan, but I go over and over this in my mind, and I have no answer.
How can the Chargers be 4-8?
Could Merriman really make that much of a difference? The Giants lost a key defensive lineman. The Steelers have tons of injuries. And they're doing great. I know LT is hurt too, but is that really the key?
The last two years, this has been one of the great teams in football. Most of the players are still there. If Norv Turner is so bad, what about last year, then?
I don't get it.
How can the Chargers be 4-8?
Could Merriman really make that much of a difference? The Giants lost a key defensive lineman. The Steelers have tons of injuries. And they're doing great. I know LT is hurt too, but is that really the key?
The last two years, this has been one of the great teams in football. Most of the players are still there. If Norv Turner is so bad, what about last year, then?
I don't get it.
greenline
Footballguy
Thanks, Jeff.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Oakland 47
San Diego 3
(penalties)
San Diego 3
(penalties)
LT looks like he's running strong, primed for a big night, hope people didn't overthink it and bench him.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Great catch..
LT points coming hopefully
LT points coming hopefully
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
That's always the danger of making a move like that - can you live with it all off-season knowing that you benched your stud? Did you outthink yourself out of a win?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Kaeding time.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Personally I'm willing to live and die with my stud back. Esp. when the opponent is a team he's ripped up in the past over and over.LT looked good till got down there where he's usually best. Dont get the pass play there. Ram it home. :(
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
It was 3rd at the 2.5 yard line and they just got stuffed twice.Looked like play action to Gates but he was doubled, and the line caved so Rivers did the right thing and throw it away.Personally I'm willing to live and die with my stud back. Esp. when the opponent is a team he's ripped up in the past over and over.LT looked good till got down there where he's usually best. Dont get the pass play there. Ram it home. :(
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Ladies and gentlemen, your Oakland Raiders.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
WE SUCK!!!
LT is going to get his, don't worry... unless you're facing him in your playoffs. Then worry. Maybe you shouldn't even watch the rest of the game.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Didnt that "fumble" by Russell kind of look like the Tuck Rule?
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Yea, I'm just more confused on how the Chargers offensive line has sunk so far that they cant pound it in like they did last year. I wasnt trying to knock the play call just fact a year ago that would have been LT for 6 easy. Guess it just been combination of both LT and the offensive line.I know that alot guys are giving up on LT but I'm not so sure its just LT. Does appear the toe has been lingering. I notice his cuts and explosion isnt what it was last year.What do you think?It was 3rd at the 2.5 yard line and they just got stuffed twice.Looked like play action to Gates but he was doubled, and the line caved so Rivers did the right thing and throw it away.Personally I'm willing to live and die with my stud back. Esp. when the opponent is a team he's ripped up in the past over and over.LT looked good till got down there where he's usually best. Dont get the pass play there. Ram it home.That's always the danger of making a move like that - can you live with it all off-season knowing that you benched your stud? Did you outthink yourself out of a win?
JoeyJoeJoeJrShabadoo
Footballguy
C'mon LT 4 more. That hole looked like last season's Chargers.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
That's the difference right there.... when you get blocking up front like that, any NFL RB can score. (It does help if you're LT2 though...)
smcindoe
Footballguy
Sure, why not, his crappy blocking is the reason LT isn't playing well, so might as well reward him.(The above statement is driven by bitterness and may not actually be accurate in any way.)
TheRegulator
Footballguy
I was thinking the same thing and looking at replay they totally should have challenged it.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
1. He was hurt2. His o-line was hurt3. #2 is more important than #1.Yea, I'm just more confused on how the Chargers offensive line has sunk so far that they cant pound it in like they did last year. I wasnt trying to knock the play call just fact a year ago that would have been LT for 6 easy. Guess it just been combination of both LT and the offensive line.I know that alot guys are giving up on LT but I'm not so sure its just LT. Does appear the toe has been lingering. I notice his cuts and explosion isnt what it was last year.What do you think?It was 3rd at the 2.5 yard line and they just got stuffed twice.Looked like play action to Gates but he was doubled, and the line caved so Rivers did the right thing and throw it away.Personally I'm willing to live and die with my stud back. Esp. when the opponent is a team he's ripped up in the past over and over.LT looked good till got down there where he's usually best. Dont get the pass play there. Ram it home.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
You're the Raiders and you stink. Why not challenge that? I know it is a new staff but the Patriots/Riaders Tuck Rule call was pretty famous, nobody on your coaching staff thinks of the Tuck Rule when seeing that replay?
LT was definitely limited early by the toe, but he really looks almost all the way back now. Atlanta just had a tremendous defensive performance last week.
Getting back on topic, Im excited to see Higgins get the start. I loved this kid's raw quicks and speed and coming out of UTEP, now we can see how he's coming along as a route runner. He had a lot trouble running his routes under control when I watched him at the Senior Bowl, so it'll be interesting to watch him go in and out of his breaks and try to set up DBs tonight.
Getting back on topic, Im excited to see Higgins get the start. I loved this kid's raw quicks and speed and coming out of UTEP, now we can see how he's coming along as a route runner. He had a lot trouble running his routes under control when I watched him at the Senior Bowl, so it'll be interesting to watch him go in and out of his breaks and try to set up DBs tonight.
timschochet
Footballguy
why punt on 4th and 1? I know they got good field position out of it, but heck, the season's over anyhow. Why not go for it?
massraider
Footballguy
Why punt at all the rest of the season?
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
That play call is so bad. I have seen it so many times. The TE has to flatten out to catch the ball and then has ZERO momentum going forward. He is an easy stop. You need to get 3 yards downfield and that makes it easy for the DB to undercut the route for an INT. Its just a bad play all together.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Same ol
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Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I debated starting John Carlson this week instead of Gates because he is really coming on and the Patriots dont really have anyone to cover the TE. Instead I stuck with start your STUDS. I'm already regretting that move the way the game is going.
the spanker
Footballguy
Anyone got a good stream for the game please??? Mine keep going out.
I cant wait to see what Sproles does with more opportunity in his new home next year. LWash/Norwood might be his floor, not his ceiling.
