David Yudkin
Footballguy
Early word is that Jordan is more likely to play against the Colts than Morris, but we should know more by the end of today who stands where.
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Week 9 NE RB Thread (Keep It All In This Thread) (1 Viewer)
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PoolShark
Footballguy
I jumped on the BJGE bandwagon last week, more out of necessity than by choice. Thankfully he scored a TD to go along with his 12 (?) yards, so it wasn't a total loss. From here on out I'm planning to avoid ALL Pats RBs rather than waste any more time trying to figure out what BB is going to do with his backfield every week.
SleeperPix
Footballguy
He may be more likely to play, but that does not mean he will.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Correct. That does not mean he will play. Even if he were to play that does not mean he will play well, nor does it mean he would see a heavy workload. All it really means is Jordan appears closer to playing than Morris does.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Since several of you have asked me what the deal is/was with Maroney, I have been told that internally there has been talk that he has other physical issues (not disclosed) and other non-medical issues (not disclosed). I pushed the issue on this and got snapped at, so rest assured I am not going to hear what the specifics are, but it's pretty evident that the shoulder injury is only a piece of the puzzle.
So no, I don't know what this means for him long term dynasty wise and one would have to begin to wonder whether he will be back next year. (I have indicated in the past that he was a safe bet to be back in 2009).
I am kicking myself for not asking before hand if Maroney was an IR candidate because I likely would have been told that he was. To give you guys an idea, I am normally limited to yes or no questions and if I ask the right question I will normally get a yes or no answer. If I ask a question looking for too many details I won't get an answer.
So no, I don't know what this means for him long term dynasty wise and one would have to begin to wonder whether he will be back next year. (I have indicated in the past that he was a safe bet to be back in 2009).
I am kicking myself for not asking before hand if Maroney was an IR candidate because I likely would have been told that he was. To give you guys an idea, I am normally limited to yes or no questions and if I ask the right question I will normally get a yes or no answer. If I ask a question looking for too many details I won't get an answer.
Workhorse
Footballguy
I thought it was VERY telling that Belichick and his staff went out of their way to praise BJGE a couple of weeks ago for being decisive in hitting holes and not dancing around. Seems to me that the Pats staff is beyond tired of Maroney's running style - Combine that with his fragility and he's pretty much worn out his welcome in New England IMO.
Resident A
Footballguy
Faulk is the guy to have, regardless of who else gets carries. Nor sure why, but he is always overlooked, even when it's clear that he's now the top option.
I'm picking up Faulk in a .5PPR league to start this week over J Lewis & J Stewart. I expect a stat line similar to last week, 60 rushing, 40 receiving, 1 TD.
I'm picking up Faulk in a .5PPR league to start this week over J Lewis & J Stewart. I expect a stat line similar to last week, 60 rushing, 40 receiving, 1 TD.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Jordan IS practicing . . . Morris IS NOT practicing today (well, at least so far today).
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Bump for those asking questions or posting comments in other threads.
footballgeek
Footballguy
BumpHow does he look, is he gimpy?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
He was listed as limited participation in practice in a practice conducted in shells and sweatpants. I have no direct knowledge of how he looked, but given the conditions it's fair to say they weren't giving him any heavy lifting so to speak.
Illegal Pants Downfield
Footballguy
Has BJGE been officially demoted?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
I love that there has to be a weekly thread on NE RBs now. Thankfully we have DY here for insightful comments.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
We don't really need one, but we end up with a half dozen of them each week.The simple answer each week is look at the injury report on Friday and the main guy not listed will be an ok RB2/RB3 fantasy wise during bye weeks.
renesauz
IBL Representative
Very surprised to see Faulk so high on the weekly cheetsheet. I'm an owner, but can't see him this high unless he's the actual starter/everydown back.
Am I missing something? Is Dodds seeing something we aren't? Some inside info?
FWIW...I have to decide between him and Hightower at RB2, and had planned to stay with Timmy until I saw the rankings. Now I'm just
Am I missing something? Is Dodds seeing something we aren't? Some inside info?
FWIW...I have to decide between him and Hightower at RB2, and had planned to stay with Timmy until I saw the rankings. Now I'm just
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I can't speak for Dodds, but I'm guessing he's basing things on last week's line for Faulk (107 yards from scrimmage and a TD). One would think the assumption he's making is Morris and Jordan won't play.Very surprised to see Faulk so high on the weekly cheetsheet. I'm an owner, but can't see him this high unless he's the actual starter/everydown back.Am I missing something? Is Dodds seeing something we aren't? Some inside info?FWIW...I have to decide between him and Hightower at RB2, and had planned to stay with Timmy until I saw the rankings. Now I'm just
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
My hunch is that Jordan will play, and be the featured back this week. It only makes sense if he is ready by then. He is obviously the best option between himself, Faulk, and Green-Ellis... and I'm sure that Pats would like to get something out of him, as they didn't pick him up for nothing.
Of course Faulk will still be the 3rd down back.
Of course Faulk will still be the 3rd down back.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Yeah, fair enough David. It was more fun a few weeks ago when each week there were 3 threads saying "Is this the week Maroney goes for 100 yds and 2 TDs?"
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
What's relevant to considering Week 9 NE RBs is that NE's secondary is banged up, and NE may fall behind quickly.
I have Jordan pencilled in to start over Grant vs TEN and Pittman vs MIA, and am strongly leaning towards Pittman at this point.
I have Jordan pencilled in to start over Grant vs TEN and Pittman vs MIA, and am strongly leaning towards Pittman at this point.
shims3
Footballguy
So if they fall behind quickly, wouldn't Faulk be the better play?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Same exact deal as yesterday . . . Jordan practicing, Morris not practicing in a light practice today.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
So Jordan likely gets a shot vs Indy...he better bring his A game with Sanders back...Subject to Friday practice of course.
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
With Jackson possibly not going again this week, I'm tempted to pick up Jordan, but would have to drop A. Pittman to do it. If I drop Pittman and Jordan and Jax both sit, I'm screwed though.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Just like yesterday, Morris didn't go at all, Jodan practiced but was limited again. I guess the good news for the Pats is that Moss fully practiced (he was listed as limited yesterday with a foot injury).
buck naked
Footballguy
David: I very much appreciate your information. Based on your experience with NE, would you have an opinion or information on whether Jordan plays, and if so, how much? I understand we will know more in a few days, but I have a critical waiver run tomorrow night and I have big $ on the line. Thanks.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
You won't know until Saturday if Jordan is likely to be the man, but here's a blurb from the Miami Examiner's examiner.com....Grab LaMont Jordan off waivers.Yeah, I know. Last week I was telling you to do the same with BenJarvus Green-Ellis. And if you did, you got a touchdown before reality set in with the fifth-string back.The point was (and continues to be): The Patriots will have to be more of a running team with Matt Cassel at quarterback. With Randy Moss and Wes Welker onboard to keep defenses honest, and Cassel having developed to the point now where the Pats are a feared passing team, there's a tremendous opportunity for a Patriots back to make a significant fantasy impact.That won't be Laurence Maroney. He's out for the season. Or Sammy Morris, who was doing fine until suffering a knee injury two weeks ago. He's out for a while, if not for the rest of the year.Green-Ellis was so disappointing (after his TD) last week, the Pats had to overuse Kevin Faulk. But now that Jordan is healthy - or close to being so - that shouldn't have to happen anymore.Soon - even possibly this week - Jordan will be the primary ballcarrier on one of the league's most powerful offensive teams, one tha pushed a no-talent like Green-Ellis into the end zone last week. And this guy (probably) is available in your league. Imagine that.I'm not saying you should put Jordan in your lineup this week. But if I were you: I'd claim him off waivers and prevent your rivals from doing the same next week should he come up big in the nationally televised game at Indianapolis on Sunday night.
joffer
Footballguy
it's not obvious to me. explain
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
It's not obvious, but the presumption is that Jordan will outperform BJGE as 1st and 2nd down back and Faulk will revert to his normal 3rd down / COP back status.
SleeperPix
Footballguy
Where is this news coming from?SeniorVBDStudent said:
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
I quoted the miami examiner in my post....I would not believe their idle speculation until anyone closer to the situation comments. In particular, Morris has stated he WILL be playing this year, and best available info is 2-3 weeks out worst case.
SleeperPix
Footballguy
Oh, I didn't mean where did you get that from. Just wondering what the he may be out for the year comment is being based on (from the author).
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Morris said this week that his injury WILL NOT keep him out all year.
SleeperPix
Footballguy
DY -
Dodds and Bloom are projecting BGE to see more carries than Jordan this weekend. Do you see it the same way?
Dodds and Bloom are projecting BGE to see more carries than Jordan this weekend. Do you see it the same way?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'd probably guess that Faulk will have a slight edge of carries (and almost all receptions) with BJGE and Jordan splitting the other half. IMO, a lot will depend on how the game goes. If IND starts piling on points NE may not be able to run as much. Like a couple of weeks ago, I think BJGE would be in in garbage time (if either team gets up big). So maybe Faulk 12-14 carries, Jordan 6-8 carries, and BJGE 6-8 carries if they can get away with a balanced attack of 30 runs/30 passes.. I'm not sure they trust BJGE in pass protection. Of course, riding the hot hand could also enter into the equation.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Give Jordan the trifecta. He was practicing again today. Morris was another no show. IMO, that will likely rule out Morris for Sunday. I would guess they will list Morris as doubftul and Jordan as probable.
Trap Play
Footballguy
Was Jordan a full or limited participant in today's practice?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Don't know. They did not have a full pads, full contact practice at all this week (nor did they last week). I do not believe they will specify if he practiced fully, as the Friday injury report only lists out, doubtful, questionable, and probable. That should be out in under an hour.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
I like Indy quite a bit in this matchup. What do you think?
Trap Play
Footballguy
Thanks, David. Any idea how much Faulk's role would decrease from last week's if Jordan played? Would it be similar to two weeks ago when Morris played? Given the likelihood of Jordan playing, I'm beginning to think looking elsewhere this week for RB assistance is probably the wise thing to do.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Morris listed as doubtful. Jordan listed as questionable.I'm hearing a fairly even split between Faulk and Jordan. Most passes to Faulk. Probably table scraps for BJGE. (This not my opinion but what I was told).IMO, I personally see Faulk getting a few more carries than normal and probably more than Jordan. So maybe 12-13 for Faulk, 8 for Jordan, 5-6 for BJGE.
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puckalicious
Footballguy
I hope so, Faulk is filling in for my bye week w/Gore and Stewart both sidelined. Going to need all the points I can get.
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
boston.com
LaMont Jordan among 5 players downgraded to out
Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff November 1, 2008 07:02 PM
The Patriots announced that five players have been downgraded to out for Sunday's game at Indianapolis, a group that includes RB LaMont Jordan (right calf).
The complete list of downgraded players who will not play is:
# RB LaMont Jordan
# RB Sammy Morris
# CB Lewis Sanders
# S Matthew Slater
# OLB Shawn Crable
Jordan had limited participation in practice throughout the week and was listed as questionable on Friday's injury report (50-50 chance of playing). Morris, Sanders and Crable were listed as doubtful, while Slater was questionable.
Without Jordan and Morris, the Patriots will enter with just three healthy running backs for the second straight game -- Kevin Faulk, BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Heath Evans.
With Sanders out for the second straight game, the Patriots lose a player who could have been an important part of their nickel package.
Slater's contributions have come mostly on special teams, while Crable has been inactive for every game this season.
LaMont Jordan among 5 players downgraded to out
Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff November 1, 2008 07:02 PM
The Patriots announced that five players have been downgraded to out for Sunday's game at Indianapolis, a group that includes RB LaMont Jordan (right calf).
The complete list of downgraded players who will not play is:
# RB LaMont Jordan
# RB Sammy Morris
# CB Lewis Sanders
# S Matthew Slater
# OLB Shawn Crable
Jordan had limited participation in practice throughout the week and was listed as questionable on Friday's injury report (50-50 chance of playing). Morris, Sanders and Crable were listed as doubtful, while Slater was questionable.
Without Jordan and Morris, the Patriots will enter with just three healthy running backs for the second straight game -- Kevin Faulk, BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Heath Evans.
With Sanders out for the second straight game, the Patriots lose a player who could have been an important part of their nickel package.
Slater's contributions have come mostly on special teams, while Crable has been inactive for every game this season.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Thanks for posting.
I have Kevin Faulk penciled in to start in 2 leagues tomorrow, that about sets it in stone for me.
I have Kevin Faulk penciled in to start in 2 leagues tomorrow, that about sets it in stone for me.
davidwb
Footballguy
very good info -- thanks!
this clearly raises Faulk's value, but what is the impact for BJGE? he really didn't look very good last week (despite getting a TD). will he get the short carries again this week, especially at the goal line, or will BB decide that Faulk is the guy and feed him the ball for one game?
this clearly raises Faulk's value, but what is the impact for BJGE? he really didn't look very good last week (despite getting a TD). will he get the short carries again this week, especially at the goal line, or will BB decide that Faulk is the guy and feed him the ball for one game?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
i have a league on allstar stats.com that lists him as suspended. seems odd
