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Welker to start (1 Viewer)

Beautiful!

I'd much rather see this speedy kid in the lineup with a chance to make a few things happen. I've yet to see anything out of Booker and wouldnt be surprised if Wes scores a handful of points on YAC alone.

 
Two questions:

Can Joey get him the ball?

How does Miami usually fare playing at the Jets?

Not trying to be sarcastic, these are honest questions.

 
His points off of return yards is what made him so valuable, definitely something to keep an eye on.

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He's been valuable for me in my PPR league even though I don't get any points for return yardage. Harrington looked to him a lot last week. This should help even more!

 
Two questions:Can Joey get him the ball?How does Miami usually fare playing at the Jets?Not trying to be sarcastic, these are honest questions.
Joey got him the ball fine last week. If anything those two had more chemistry than the others.Jets Fins are a division battle. More often than not they each play each other well and do a good job of matching score for score. 10-10 or 30-30, not saying one way or the other. Before satellite and all, I usually looked forward to this matchup.
 
I was at the Pats-Phins game last week and he was the first read on plenty of plays. Joey clearly likes this guy (NTTAWWT) and will look for him. A good pick up :thumbup:

 
Two questions:Can Joey get him the ball?How does Miami usually fare playing at the Jets?Not trying to be sarcastic, these are honest questions.
Joey got him the ball fine last week. If anything those two had more chemistry than the others.Jets Fins are a division battle. More often than not they each play each other well and do a good job of matching score for score. 10-10 or 30-30, not saying one way or the other. Before satellite and all, I usually looked forward to this matchup.
in my ppr + return yard league, Welker is currently ranked 11th in a per game average, and 2nd :shock: in total points scored by WR's. if he can get in the offensive mix a little more, he will be a STUD.I'd say he should have a little more chemistry w/ Harrington than culpepper - Welker has been working with the 2nd team (and therefore Harringotn) more in pre-season, and should have a better chemistry.i actually think Welker could out produce Booker, if given a chance. he seems like a much better YAC guy and a better open field runner.That being said, it is possible that Welkers non-special team success thus far could be because he hasn't been drawing the best cover guys. If he is the #2, then he will be facing a starting caliber CB, as opposed to a nickel-back.
 
Two questions:Can Joey get him the ball?How does Miami usually fare playing at the Jets?Not trying to be sarcastic, these are honest questions.
Joey got him the ball fine last week. If anything those two had more chemistry than the others.Jets Fins are a division battle. More often than not they each play each other well and do a good job of matching score for score. 10-10 or 30-30, not saying one way or the other. Before satellite and all, I usually looked forward to this matchup.
in my ppr + return yard league, Welker is currently ranked 11th in a per game average, and 2nd :shock: in total points scored by WR's. if he can get in the offensive mix a little more, he will be a STUD.I'd say he should have a little more chemistry w/ Harrington than culpepper - Welker has been working with the 2nd team (and therefore Harringotn) more in pre-season, and should have a better chemistry.i actually think Welker could out produce Booker, if given a chance. he seems like a much better YAC guy and a better open field runner.That being said, it is possible that Welkers non-special team success thus far could be because he hasn't been drawing the best cover guys. If he is the #2, then he will be facing a starting caliber CB, as opposed to a nickel-back.
I don't doubt Welker could outproduce Booker, all in all though that's not hard.I do see a bunch of value in PPR as he could have quite a few catches. Don't forget Booker used up a defender and before last week McMichael didn't do squat+Chambers hasn't been all that great. Welker is not used to alot of attention by the D and who knows how he'll handle that. It's pretty important to get McMichael going too.
 
According to rotoworld:

Wes Welker will start in place of the injured Marty Booker. I am in a league in wich return yards are scored.

Will Welker remain the primary KR and PR this week now that he is starting?

I hope he does.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sport...ll/15726207.htm
I think rotoworld is jumping the gun here. I'm not sure this is a done deal.From the article...

That means Hagan, who showed promise during an impressive training camp, will have the chance to prove he is capable of making more than the two receptions he has in five games. He is likely to be slotted as the team's third receiver, behind Wes Welker and Chris Chambers.
Another paper picks Hagan to start...
WR Derek Hagan could become an influential player if WR Marty Booker's injury turns out to be substantial. If Booker can't go, Hagan likely would replace him as he did against the Patriots when he had one catch for 17 yards.
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Eitherway, I still like Welkers prospects with Harrington throwing the ball. I think Welker gets a little bump if Booker is out no matter if he is WR2 or WR3.

 
From Fanball :

With Marty Booker almost certain to be sidelined this week with a shoulder injury, Wes Welker is preparing to play a bigger role. Welker will slide into Booker's No. 2 spot on Sunday against the Jets. 'I don't see any problems with that,' Welker told the Miami Herald of his increased role in the passing game, combined with his work as a return man. ``I felt like I took a good amount of hits, and my body really feels good. I just need to take care of myself, make sure it's ready for Sunday. I'm ready for as much as possible.'
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Welker has bvery good hands from what I saw. I think the Pats decided at the half to adjust and start doubling Welker - amazing that a WR who can catch will require doubling - take notes, Mr. Chambers.

I don't own him, but I'm high on him. He makes tough catches, is quick, and has enough speed to get things done. Whomever is opposite Chambers is the guy you want until Chambers becomes the #2 in defenses minds. Then it's a toss-up.

 
The team would like to see rookie Derek Hagan develop, but we all know how hard it is for WRs to develop in the NFL.

I do not believe they will pull Welker from return duties, but, as an FYI, Travis Minor has kick return experience. That is where the vast majority of return yardage goes. It is highly unlikely they will pull Welker from PUNT duties, but punt return yardage is minimal unless he breaks one.

Finally, given the season is quickly heading into the crapper, the team might activate Marcus Vick from the practice squad and see what he can do returning kicks.

I don't expect any changes before the bye week. And, unless Booker is gone a long time, they have no real incentive to take Welker off of kick return duties, but it is the kick returns, not the punt returns, that are Welker's most valuable return function in leagues that reward return yardage.

 
P.S. - even in non-PPR leagues, Welker is someone you should be looking at to pick up.

At least do what I am going to do - send out a subtle notice to your league mates that Welker is "da bomb" and point to his catches the last few weeks (he's outscoring Chris Chambers).

At the very least, you may distract a few folks from snagging Bryant Johnson.

 
P.S. - even in non-PPR leagues, Welker is someone you should be looking at to pick up.At least do what I am going to do - send out a subtle notice to your league mates that Welker is "da bomb" and point to his catches the last few weeks (he's outscoring Chris Chambers).At the very least, you may distract a few folks from snagging Bryant Johnson.
what guppies do you play with :)
 
a lot of the guys in my big $$ league are extremely competitive on draft day (all the decent players end up on a roster - and we have shallow rosters of 16 spots for 9 starters), but a lot of them don't have time to make moves every week. They are all professionals - lawyers, corporate employees, project managers, etc. - so they don't go as "deep" into the WW thing as most sharks.

They are all good, active players, and I have converted half of them to fbguys.com - so they are all pros and they are half sharks.

Plus, I have been "helping" out the league like this for years - when I'm competitive, I will send out little "hey heads up" announcements to certain league mates all the time. It is never to mess with them - it is always to genuinely help them out.

 
when I'm competitive,
:fightingurgetobiteonthis:
Good - you shouldn't. I've been "Super Bowl competitive" for the last five years (since the year I subscribed to FBGuys.com, actually)I was in the playoffs every year but one until five years ago. I then was the first back to back Super Bowl winner in that league, went back to the Bowl for a third year in a row (but lost), and I lost the Champ game last year by one point (IOW, woulda been back to the Bowl for an incredible fourth year in a row). And this league rewards 1G to #1 and 450 to #2. I've taken 2500 or so out of that league over the last four years. Pretty competitive, if I do say so myself.This year, three teams, including mine, are standing solo at 4-1, and I have a 2.5 game lead on my division, having beat all three divisional opponents, who are all 2-3. I'm looking pretty.
 
I'm actually thinking about picking up Welker and drop Troy "Brick Hands" Williamson. It's even a non-ppr league with no return yards.

 
That's good new for anybody that has him in a return yard league. He should continue to return kicks then, he had 121 return yds last week. New England should be able to score a few points, which means more return yds. Looked at the schedule too quickly, they play the Jets, so maybe not as many scores, but the Dolphins have been playing poorly, so hopefully the jets can get some scores in as they haven't been as bad as I thought they might be this year.

 
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That's good new for anybody that has him in a return yard league. He should continue to return kicks then, he had 121 return yds last week. New England should be able to score a few points, which means more return yds. :)
Just a quick heads up for you bullitt.The Dolphins play the Jets this week, not New England.
 
That's good new for anybody that has him in a return yard league. He should continue to return kicks then, he had 121 return yds last week. New England should be able to score a few points, which means more return yds. :)
Just a quick heads up for you bullitt.The Dolphins play the Jets this week, not New England.
:bag: Thanks, I just gave the Schedule a quick glance.
 
That's good new for anybody that has him in a return yard league. He should continue to return kicks then, he had 121 return yds last week. New England should be able to score a few points, which means more return yds. :)
Just a quick heads up for you bullitt.The Dolphins play the Jets this week, not New England.
:bag: Thanks, I just gave the Schedule a quick glance.
To be honest, you didn't even need to look at the schedule. If you'd just read this thread before you posted in it, you'd have seen the Jets mentioned as Miami's opponent a few times. :shrug:
 
Sun-Sentinal reporting Hagan to start in Booker's place:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-dol...la-sports-front
Reply someone usually gives to me I'll give to you:How much confidence are they reporting that Harrington will have in Hagan?
I caught the tail end of a conversation with the West Palm beat reporter for the Dolphins (different than the reporters in the article). He was on a local show Tuesday and said he was 99% sure Booker was out and if he was, Hagan would start. Since this was only a radio account of a beat writer, I waited to see more (and was surprised by the initial report of Welker starting). I think it makes sense to get Hagan in the line-up. He has been practicing with Harrington and the 2nd string squad and it seems the coaching staff feels he is the future #2. JMO and what I heard.
 
I'm picking up Welker - I was just reporting a contrary new story to the initial post regarding Welker starting.

I think the idea is to not switch Welker's position - his production should take a bump.

What I am hoping is that it means he will also continue returning kicks - see my post above speculating on the phins' options for return duties.

 
To be honest, you didn't even need to look at the schedule. If you'd just read this thread before you posted in it, you'd have seen the Jets mentioned as Miami's opponent a few times. :shrug:
I already said I screwed up, but thanks for the extra kick in the nutz. :)
 
Arizona State alum here. Keep an eye on Hagan. He didn't have an impressive combine or Senior Bowl, but the guy caught virtually everything thrown to him in college. Him and Walter were quite the dynamic duo. He won't out run anybody, but he runs good routes and knows how to use his size to his advantage.

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Dolphins: Hagan gets a chance

BY JEFF DARLINGTON

jdarlington@MiamiHerald.com

As the rookie fielded the question about how he would define himself as a wide receiver, Derek Hagan did not yet have an answer. Too early in his career, he said.

''I guess you'll just have to wait and see what I do on Saturdays,'' Hagan said.

Actually, Derek, you play on Sundays now. This is the NFL, you know.

''Oh yeah,'' Hagan chuckled. ``That's what I meant. Sundays . . . you'll have to wait and see what I do on Sundays.''

Honest mistake, really. After all, no one can blame Hagan for the slip-up. With three solid wide receivers playing ahead of him -- albeit in an offense struggling to open up the passing game -- Hagan has not had his opportunity to show his potential as a pro.

He is likely to get that chance Sunday against the Jets.

''I definitely need to be ready for it,'' Hagan said. ``I'm always out there practicing with the first and second team. But now, I'll be getting more reps with the [first team] since [receiver Marty] Booker is down.''

As a result of a shoulder injury sustained in Sunday's loss to the Patriots, Booker is not expected to play against the New York Jets. And he also is expected to miss at least one more week -- if not several more -- beyond that.

That means Hagan, who showed promise during an impressive training camp, will have the chance to prove he is capable of making more than the two receptions he has in five games. He is likely to be slotted as the team's third receiver, behind Wes Welker and Chris Chambers.

''We were pleased with what he was able to do in the [Patriots] game,'' coach Nick Saban said. ``It's all not just about the production, but he played fast. He got open. He made himself available at times. He blocked. He competed well.

``We saw real positive signs from how he responded to the opportunity he had in the game when Marty went down.''

But Hagan isn't the only player who will get more opportunities in Booker's absence. So will Wes Welker -- even if he doesn't need them. Welker already leads the team in receptions, catching six more passes for 89 more yards than Chambers.

However, if the Dolphins stick to the same plan they employed when Booker went down Sunday, he would get even more. But can he handle it, especially since he also is responsible for punt returns and kick returns?

''I don't see any problems with that,'' said Welker, who has 27 catches for 299 yards. ``I felt like I took a good amount of hits, and my body really feels good. I just need to take care of myself, make sure it's ready for Sunday. I'm ready for as much as possible.''

Unless the Dolphins decide to sign another wide receiver, which is a strong possibility considering they have the roster space after waiving running back Lee Suggs on Tuesday, Booker's absence probably would cause opportunities for one more player.

Cliff Russell, who emerged out of a deep group of receivers during training camp to make the 53-man roster, has not yet been active for any games. He is hoping this week could be his chance to make it on the field, as well.

''I'm not treating this week like a tryout,'' Russell said. ``I'm not going to make it harder than it is, or stress myself out. But it's going to be in my head. Every rep I take has to be the best one I've ever ran.''

So as the Dolphins begin to plan for life without Booker, the receivers waiting in the wings understand this is the reason they have jobs in the NFL. As Hagan said Monday, he is just glad he learned from Booker while he was healthy.

Now, the rookie can begin to define himself in his own way. Just as long as someone remembers to tell him the game is on Sunday.

''I'm here to make plays,'' Hagan said. ``That's what I was brought here for. Now, I'm just really getting the opportunity to show what I can do.''

 
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Wes Welker will outperform Hagan in the stats category regardless of who the "starter" is.
or notWelker is still good in IRR leagues, but Hagen has outscored Welker in for the past two weeksHagenLAST THREE GAMES Date Opp. Rec Yds Lg TD 10/08 NE 1 17 17 0 10/15 NYJ 6 66 24 0 10/22 GB 5 53 17 1 WelkerLAST THREE GAMES Date Opp. Rec Yds Lg TD 10/08 NE 9 77 25 0 10/15 NYJ 6 56 25 0 10/22 GB 6 38 11 0
 

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