Wes Welker vs. Donte Stallworth (1 Viewer)

[azngangster]

Who do you think will be a better option the rest of the year, non ppr, since most would say in a ppr league, Welker is clearly better?

It looks as if all three patriot wrs will have value this year, so just want to hear opinions on this.

 

[Tornacl]

I think Welker will be better, and certainly more consistent. Stallworth may have a couple of big games, but I think Welker is perfect for Brady, because he'll be where he's supposed to be (and Brady will throw it where he should).

 

[Andy Herron]

I was lucky (and intuitive) enough to draft both of them, but eventually had to cut Stallworth because of injury issues early in the season. That right there says it all. I haven't looked back. An outside speed guy with a history of hamstring issues will leave you with alot of headaches. They can always plug in Jabar Gafney, and Chad Jackson is about to come back too. Welker will always be that Mr. reliable in the slot.

 

[Phlash]

I was lucky (and intuitive) enough to draft both of them, but eventually had to cut Stallworth because of injury issues early in the season. That right there says it all. I haven't looked back. An outside speed guy with a history of hamstring issues will leave you with alot of headaches. They can always plug in Jabar Gafney, and Chad Jackson is about to come back too. Welker will always be that Mr. reliable in the slot.

Exactly - Welker will always be Brady's outlet, no matter who the first or second read is on the play.

 

[djjosee]

Welker more consistant and Donte more big games with a few duds ... in the end they'll finish the same. Now, if Watson misses any time, big bump to Wes.

 

[Andy Herron]

Welker more consistant and Donte more big games with a few duds ... in the end they'll finish the same. Now, if Watson misses any time, big bump to Wes.

Good point.And Phlash, looks like you've got a pretty nice pair of receivers yourself.

 

[helix]

I would wager that Donte outpoints Welker from this point on-

 

[Andy Herron]

I would wager that Donte outpoints Welker from this point on-

Because...?

 

[Torque666]

I would wager that Donte outpoints Welker from this point on-

Because...?

LOL, i was thinking the same thing.To me its Welker all the way. Really seems to me that Brady and Welker are more consistantly on the smae page. Not to mention Stall's leg issues he seems to always have.

 

[Sopranos]

Welker is a pretty crafty dude. I wouldnt bank on stallworth. His is all or nothing..Always has been

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

... had to cut Stallworth (over Welker) because of injury issues early in the season. That right there says it all.

It sure does... If someone as all-knowing as QuickSlant were to cut Stallworth over Welker then we all should.

 

[Andy Herron]

... had to cut Stallworth (over Welker) because of injury issues early in the season. That right there says it all.

It sure does... If someone as all-knowing as QuickSlant were to cut Stallworth over Welker then we all should.

In my circumstance, by all means. No TE required in my league, they count as WRs. I can start 3-4 from Witten, Houshmandzadeh, Galloway, Curtis, Welker, and McDonald. With Galloway having the same bye as the Pats, somebody had to go.Probably a little clearer now.

Nice try on the edit down.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

... had to cut Stallworth (over Welker) because of injury issues early in the season. That right there says it all.

It sure does... If someone as all-knowing as QuickSlant were to cut Stallworth over Welker then we all should.

In my circumstance, by all means. No TE required in my league, they count as WRs. I can start 3-4 from Witten, Houshmandzadeh, Galloway, Curtis, Welker, and McDonald. With Galloway having the same bye as the Pats, somebody had to go.Probably a little clearer now.

Nice try on the edit down.

I think you missed the point that you came off as extremely arrogant. That's all I was trying to point out...

 

[Andy Herron]

... had to cut Stallworth (over Welker) because of injury issues early in the season. That right there says it all.

It sure does... If someone as all-knowing as QuickSlant were to cut Stallworth over Welker then we all should.

In my circumstance, by all means. No TE required in my league, they count as WRs. I can start 3-4 from Witten, Houshmandzadeh, Galloway, Curtis, Welker, and McDonald. With Galloway having the same bye as the Pats, somebody had to go.Probably a little clearer now.

Nice try on the edit down.

I think you missed the point that you came off as extremely arrogant. That's all I was trying to point out...

Sorry you took it that way. I'm just here trying to share information like everybody else. Don't mean to be arrogant.Currently in my league Welker ranks 7th among WRs while Stallworth is 30th, and averaging about 5 points less per game. We score in fractions. That's where my strong view comes from.

 

[Sweet Love]

Just going to throw another opinion out there, but with teams realizing Moss is the real-deal again, when they start to double and triple cover him, who does that leave more open. I think a guy like Stallworth will thrive on the other flank (versus the slot where Welker resides...I believe) in single coverage, where I assume Welker has always been single covered. If someone could shed light on how teams have been playing the three recently, I think it would be a big help.

If Stallworth is healthly, he is very dangerous in single coverage. He also has a little power to his run after the catch which I noticed for the first time in the Dallas game.

 

[Thumper]

Just going to throw another opinion out there, but with teams realizing Moss is the real-deal again, when they start to double and triple cover him, who does that leave more open. I think a guy like Stallworth will thrive on the other flank (versus the slot where Welker resides...I believe) in single coverage, where I assume Welker has always been single covered. If someone could shed light on how teams have been playing the three recently, I think it would be a big help.If Stallworth is healthly, he is very dangerous in single coverage. He also has a little power to his run after the catch which I noticed for the first time in the Dallas game.

They are both good options, but Stallworth is the better option.

 

[Andy Herron]

Just going to throw another opinion out there, but with teams realizing Moss is the real-deal again, when they start to double and triple cover him, who does that leave more open. I think a guy like Stallworth will thrive on the other flank (versus the slot where Welker resides...I believe) in single coverage, where I assume Welker has always been single covered. If someone could shed light on how teams have been playing the three recently, I think it would be a big help.If Stallworth is healthly, he is very dangerous in single coverage. He also has a little power to his run after the catch which I noticed for the first time in the Dallas game.

The thing is, it's always harder to cover a good slot receiver. Outside corners will always have the sideline to help defend a WR. A slot receiver has the entire middle of the field to work to either side. Much more difficult to cover, especially for your 3rd corner or nickel back.

 

[bostonfred]

After a slow start, mostly due to injury, Stallworth's getting a lot more playing time recently, and has been doing really well with it. but I think Welker's the better option the rest of the way, because while there are things that Welker does that Stallworth and Moss don't, and things Moss does that Welker and Stallworth don't, there's nothing Stallworth does that Moss and Welker don't. Welker's made a lot of catches on a lot of different routes, including some deep routes and skinny posts. Stallworth has had some nice short yardage work, too, and seems to be a more complete receiver than I originally expected, but I don't think he's as good in the open field or over the middle as Welker. With Watson out, the top two running backs sidelined, and Brady en fuego, I think all three will get a lot of looks, so I'd be happy to start any of the three. But if I had to guess who looks better the rest of the way, I'd say Welker.

 

[gheemony]

Any reason why Welker isn't a sneaky good play this week? Think about it:

1. No Ben Watson, so the underneath routes are for Welker. Similar to how Stokely's production and Dallas Clark's performance were intertwined in INDY, I think Welker and Watson are intertwined.

2. No Maroney or Morris, so NE should pass more (if that's possible). Sure, Faulk will get some swing passes and short passes, but I don't think it's enough to address the overall increase in pass attempts.

3. Miami is awful. Cleveland put up huge points on this defense. What could NE do? Plenty of TDs to go around.

4. Miami is Welker's former team. He didn't leave on bad terms and the coaching staff is new, so I don't expect that they'll be out to shut down Welker (stupid if you'd do that and leave Randy Moss open). But Welker is obviously a smart football player and will probably know the Miami defense well. Bellichick doesn't need any cameras this week - he's got Welker's inside info.

I think I'm starting Welker over Santonio Holmes, who has to up against Bailey/Bly and is coming off a hammy injury.

 

[cubbie5150]

Welker should loom large when the Pats play Indy...he'll be running underneath that cover 2 all game long... Wish I owned him for that game alone.

 

[bostonfred]

Any reason why Welker isn't a sneaky good play this week? Think about it:1. No Ben Watson, so the underneath routes are for Welker. Similar to how Stokely's production and Dallas Clark's performance were intertwined in INDY, I think Welker and Watson are intertwined.2. No Maroney or Morris, so NE should pass more (if that's possible). Sure, Faulk will get some swing passes and short passes, but I don't think it's enough to address the overall increase in pass attempts.3. Miami is awful. Cleveland put up huge points on this defense. What could NE do? Plenty of TDs to go around.4. Miami is Welker's former team. He didn't leave on bad terms and the coaching staff is new, so I don't expect that they'll be out to shut down Welker (stupid if you'd do that and leave Randy Moss open). But Welker is obviously a smart football player and will probably know the Miami defense well. Bellichick doesn't need any cameras this week - he's got Welker's inside info.I think I'm starting Welker over Santonio Holmes, who has to up against Bailey/Bly and is coming off a hammy injury.

Sneaky? Welker is outscoring Holmes by a significant amount right now, and he's a top ten receiver in my main league, while Holmes is at the bottom of the top 30.

 

[Bodysnatcher]

Here is the difference for me, and why if I had the choice, I would rather have Stallworth.

Welker is the kind of guy who will get you a few points every week, but normally your fantasy game won't be effected by his production. In other words, none of your games will be decided on what Welker chipped in. However, Stallworth is the guy who might get you nothing a few weeks, but is also going to have the sort of blowout games that will make the difference in a win or loss.

 

[Sabertooth]

Stallworth is just rounding into form. Welker had a big game, but then so did Stallworth. I guess I like Stallworth more....of course that's probably why I own him in two leagues.

 

[mozzy84]

Here is the difference for me, and why if I had the choice, I would rather have Stallworth.

Welker is the kind of guy who will get you a few points every week, but normally your fantasy game won't be effected by his production. In other words, none of your games will be decided on what Welker chipped in. However, Stallworth is the guy who might get you nothing a few weeks, but is also going to have the sort of blowout games that will make the difference in a win or loss.

it just happened last week?I would rather have welker for the rest of the year myself, more consistent and just a better player.

edit to say I have both of these guys in different leagues so hopefully they both somehow do well...

 

[Road Warriors]

I think I like Stallworth just a bit more in a non PPR league. I think he'll have more scores than welker and put up more big games. I can see a lot of 50-70 yd 0 TD games from welker ( on about 6 rec ) where his PPG will be barely WR3 quality. Stallworth should have more 80-100 / 1TD games, but will have a few 30 / 0 games, too.

Total points at the end of the year from this point forward I give the edge to Stallworth.

 

[bostonfred]

Welker 38 receptions, 419 total yards, 3 TDs

Stallworth 19 receptions, 316 total yards, 2 TDs

So far Welker is better across the board.

Week one:

Welker 8/61/1

Stallworth 1/19/0

Week two:

Welker 8/91/0

Stallworth 2/19/0

Week three:

Welker 6/69/0

Stallworth 1/28/0

Week four:

Welker 3/22/0

Stallworth 4/49/0

Week five:

Welker 4/19/0

Stallworth 4/65/1

Week six:

Welker 11/124/2

Stallworth 7/136/1

So far, the only weeks you'd rather have had Stallworth are weeks four and five, and neither one was a big week for Stallworth.