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Westbrook OUT (1 Viewer)

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Dexter Manley

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Westbrook Out Until Start Of Regular SeasonPosted by Mike Florio on June 3, 2009, 5:38 p.m. Our same Amish friend who avoided the Harrison Ford treatment on Tuesday night upon conveying to us information being reported by Comcast SportsNet regarding the possibility of a new contract for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb now advises us of a new report from CSN regarding the status of running back Brian Westbrook.Per the report (and we’ll put up a link as soon as one is available), Westbrook is out with a high ankle sprain.How long? How about until the start of the regular season.Yikes.Per the CSN report, Westbrook was examined in Baltimore on Wednesday by ankle specialist Mark Myerson. Apparently, Westbrook might need a procedure to “clean out” the ankle.With Correll Buckhalter now in Denver, the job likely will fall to Lorenzo Booker and rookie LeSean McCoy.But the Eagles also might now be in the market for a veteran tailback, such as Deuce McAllister or Edgerrin James.
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A veteran that gets to miss training camp and the preseason...Westbrook is probably the happiest guy in the world!!

Buy low now!

 
While working out recently, the ankle began to bother Westbrook and he contacted head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder to check on it. Andy Reid said on Tuesday that Westbrook would see a doctor, but again, there has been no official update from the team since.
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As an Eagles fan I'm not worried. As a prospective owner in upcoming drafts, I can knock him down a notch or two in my rankings and get him on the cheap.philadelphiaeagles.com

 
Ruffrodys05 said:
While working out recently, the ankle began to bother Westbrook and he contacted head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder to check on it. Andy Reid said on Tuesday that Westbrook would see a doctor, but again, there has been no official update from the team since.
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As an Eagles fan I'm not worried. As a prospective owner in upcoming drafts, I can knock him down a notch or two in my rankings and get him on the cheap.philadelphiaeagles.com
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This.Although, I'll be knocking him down more than a notch or two... More like 8 or 9. Assuming his ADP drops significantly after this news, I'm actually MORE likely to draft him now.

 
Ruffrodys05 said:
While working out recently, the ankle began to bother Westbrook and he contacted head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder to check on it. Andy Reid said on Tuesday that Westbrook would see a doctor, but again, there has been no official update from the team since.
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As an Eagles fan I'm not worried. As a prospective owner in upcoming drafts, I can knock him down a notch or two in my rankings and get him on the cheap.philadelphiaeagles.com
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No kidding. I hope he is out for all of preseason. I'll scoop him up a bit later.
 
Ruffrodys05 said:
While working out recently, the ankle began to bother Westbrook and he contacted head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder to check on it. Andy Reid said on Tuesday that Westbrook would see a doctor, but again, there has been no official update from the team since.
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As an Eagles fan I'm not worried. As a prospective owner in upcoming drafts, I can knock him down a notch or two in my rankings and get him on the cheap.philadelphiaeagles.com
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:thumbup: Doesn't need to be playing in the preseason anyways. The Eagles are in big time trouble IMO if they've got to go with Booker/McCoy at any point.

 
This can actually cause McNabb to slip alittle as well. Wasn't really looking at Westy, but thought hard about grabbing McNabb in my auction league this year. A sub-par pre-season could actually help those looking his way as well.

 
tbglog said:
This can actually cause McNabb to slip alittle as well. Wasn't really looking at Westy, but thought hard about grabbing McNabb in my auction league this year. A sub-par pre-season could actually help those looking his way as well.
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How can it cause McNabb to slip if McCoy is better than Westbrook? and he is.
 
Grigs Allmoon said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
tbglog said:
This can actually cause McNabb to slip alittle as well. Wasn't really looking at Westy, but thought hard about grabbing McNabb in my auction league this year. A sub-par pre-season could actually help those looking his way as well.
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How can it cause McNabb to slip if McCoy is better than Westbrook? and he is.
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:shrug: We'll see about that one...
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I believe he is better than Westbrook at this stage of Westbrook's career.
 
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Hoss_Cartwright said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
tbglog said:
This can actually cause McNabb to slip alittle as well. Wasn't really looking at Westy, but thought hard about grabbing McNabb in my auction league this year. A sub-par pre-season could actually help those looking his way as well.
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How can it cause McNabb to slip if McCoy is better than Westbrook? and he is.
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:unsure: We'll see about that one...
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I believe he is better than Westbrook at this stage of Westbrook's career.
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Oh, ok. I'll at least buy that opinion, then. I still think Westbrook is one of the best in the league, but we've all seen RBs fall flat, quick.
 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
tbglog said:
This can actually cause McNabb to slip alittle as well. Wasn't really looking at Westy, but thought hard about grabbing McNabb in my auction league this year. A sub-par pre-season could actually help those looking his way as well.
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How can it cause McNabb to slip if McCoy is better than Westbrook? and he is.
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:unsure: We'll see about that one...
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I believe he is better than Westbrook at this stage of Westbrook's career.
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Not at pass-blocking and probably not as a receiver either.
 
Looks like it's surgery ladies and gents:

Philadelphia Eagles running back Brian Westbrook will have surgery to clean up some bone spurs in his right ankle, according to his agent Todd France.

France had no timetable for Westbrook's return but characterized the procedure as minor. Another source, however, said the surgery could sideline Westbrook well into training camp. Eagles veterans report to training camp on July 29.

The All-Pro running back also had surgery on his left knee three months ago.

"We talked about it when he was at the doctor's office and went through the options and decided it was better to clean it up," France told ESPN. "The ankle has been bothering him since last year."

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The Eagles sent Westbrook to Baltimore on Wednesday to see Dr. Mark Myerson, the ankle specialist who treated Terrell Owens five years ago.

According to sources, Myerson recommended several options, including surgery and playing through the pain with a series of cortisone shots. France said that if this were the regular season, Westbrook would probably not have surgery.

Westbrook aggravated a previous sprain in his right ankle while working out in the last few weeks, a team source said. It is the same ankle that Westbrook injured last year and bothered him throughout the 2008 season.

"It has nothing to do with the high ankle sprain," France said. "It's just some bone spurs."

Westbrook, who will turn 30 in September, had surgery to repair cartilage damage in his left knee in February.
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That's two this year. Makes me a bit nervous.
 
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lol McCoy hasn't even played a professional down and he is already better than Westbrook is? I don't see how that works (unless you mean Westbrook with this ankle sprain and even then it is still pretty baseless). When McCoy demands the same defensive attention that Westbrook does, then there may be some truth in that opinion.

Doesn't Westbrook get injured every training camp anyway? At least now he will be completely fresh by the start of the season (although I expect him to get reinjured by his 5th or 6th touch anyway). I really hope the Eagles pick up Edge. Deuce is pretty much the only runningback that is as injured as often as Westbrook is.

 
AnonymousBob said:
Whoa.
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I had a different four letter word in mind.As a philly fan, I've grown accustomed to Westbrook fighting through so many injuries, but we all know at some point its going to be too much. The timing, wording and severity of this makes it seem like this time is different. I can't remember another player getting shut down for the whole preseason at the beginning of OTA's. Andy has always been cautious with Westbrook, but this has me seriously concerned. If this turns out as badly as it sounds, McCoy is a good target but so are Booker and Weaver. I could see Weaver getting the bulk of the 1st and 2nd down work, Eckel staying to play FB, and either Booker or McCoy picking up 3rd down duties depending on which one learns to block. And easy there Hoss, on the McCoy > Westy. Let him get on the field and see if he's better than Booker first.
 
Signing Edge seems like a real shark move for Philly. A decent experienced back to pair with the rookie.

No reason for the Eagles to rush Westy back, if they make the move for Edge, I can see Westy sitting the first 1 or 2 games of the season.

With the o-line in Philly Edge could be a very effective RB in the short term

 
Added Booker in a couple leagues where he was on the wire.

Maybe be able to parlay him into a scrappy pick next year if he gets some good talk in camp?

 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
tbglog said:
This can actually cause McNabb to slip alittle as well. Wasn't really looking at Westy, but thought hard about grabbing McNabb in my auction league this year. A sub-par pre-season could actually help those looking his way as well.
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How can it cause McNabb to slip if McCoy is better than Westbrook? and he is.
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WOW, you got McCoy penciled in for 14 td's and 1300 plus yards rushing/rec? Thats what Westy did in 14 weeks last year. Westy has never avg. less than 4.0 ypc in a season and McCoy is better than him already huh? McCoy will be a liability for McNabb in the backfield if he starts week 1. NFL blitz packages will cause him some problems. Westy has been 1 or 2 of the best rec. RB's in the league for several years. With this logic, I should assume Crabtree will out perform R. Moss, Johnson and Fitz this year. I have never got to caught up in rookie hype. Show us something before we make you a top 5 back in the league.
 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
tbglog said:
This can actually cause McNabb to slip alittle as well. Wasn't really looking at Westy, but thought hard about grabbing McNabb in my auction league this year. A sub-par pre-season could actually help those looking his way as well.
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How can it cause McNabb to slip if McCoy is better than Westbrook? and he is.
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I coached against McCOY in high school here in Carlisle and he is a great player but he is no westbrook. In time he will be a fine rb he is very lucky to be on a team like philly it fits him very well.But dont worry fellas Westy will be fine come week 1.
 
I was already down on Westbrook this year and didn't view him as a viable 1st rounder, so this news is unfortunate b/c I was sure Westy would be taken in the middle of the 1st round in all leagues; mistakenly. Now he'll fall to a point where he actually might be fair value. Ugh.

I would be shocked, by the way, if the Birds don't go get someone, most likely Edge.

 
Does this really make much of a difference in McCoy's dynasty value since Westy should be ready by start of the season?

 
Agents are paid to minimize bad news. It'll be interesting to see how this "it's not a high ankle / just bone spurs" line plays out.

J

 
McCoy is JJ Arrington 2 IMO. Not impressed what I've seen on film & his measurables left a ton to be desired. Best case scenario, solid 3rd down back. If he doesn't take to blocking, he's Jerome Harrison.

The Eagles really need to go out and find a backup/fill in for 2009 for Westbrook.

 
millertyme1 said:
McCoy is JJ Arrington 2 IMO. Not impressed what I've seen on film & his measurables left a ton to be desired. Best case scenario, solid 3rd down back. If he doesn't take to blocking, he's Jerome Harrison.The Eagles really need to go out and find a backup/fill in for 2009 for Westbrook.
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When you say film, you mean youtube, and when you talk measurables and 3rd down back stuff, yeah, he's no better than another Brian Westbrook :) How quickly we forget.
 
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I keep seeing training camp mentioned in print and ESPN. On one hand, I'm concerned because it's just another indication of the mileage he's accumulated. On the other hand, at least he didn't let it linger into training camp and then you're looking at 8+ weeks from there.

I'm interested in Dr. Jene's take.

Westbrook to get ankle surgery, should return during Eagles training camp

By LES BOWEN

Philadelphia Daily News

[email protected]

ONCE YOU'VE typed the words "Brian Westbrook" and "right ankle surgery," it's really hard to keep the typing fingers away from words such as "disaster" or "panic."

But if what the Eagles announced last night, in confirming what agent Todd France said earlier, is the whole truth, Westbrook needs cleanout surgery for bone spurs, not a repair of a high ankle sprain. Though that sounds ominous, it probably isn't.

The team released a statement saying Westbrook "is scheduled to undergo surgery on Friday, June 5, in Baltimore. The surgery, which will be performed by Dr. Mark Myerson, is a debridement of his right ankle."

France told ESPN.com Westbrook needed "minor" surgery for "bone spurs."

Dr. Art Bartolozzi, a former Eagles and Flyers team orthopedist not involved in Westbrook's treatment, said last night that surgery for bone spurs seems more plausible to him right now than surgery for a high ankle sprain, a scenario alluded to in an earlier Comcast SportsNet report. Bartolozzi said high ankle sprains typically are worked on right after they occur, to insert a screw drawing bones together - as Myerson famously did for Terrell Owens in December 2004. No one has said that Westbrook suffered a recent high ankle sprain; he was bothered by one last season, suffered in Week 3.

Bartolozzi said debridement of an ankle would amount to "cleaning up." He said bone spurs are very common and that surgery to remove them can be done either arthroscopically or with a small normal incision, with a recovery time of 6 to 8 weeks. The Eagles are 8 weeks away from full-squad training-camp activity.

"The part of your foot that's closest to the ankle can develop a bone spur," from the up-and-down, pushing off and running motion, Bartolozzi said. "That spur can hit the tibia. That's a very common football injury . . . it's a very successful type surgery, if in fact the spur hitting the distal tibia is what's causing the problem."

If the bone spurs are caused by arthritis, "the pain doesn't go completely away" when the spurs are removed, Bartolozzi said. But he said such a condition is not nearly as debilitating for a running back as a chronic knee injury (which Westbrook also has, of course; his left knee swelled on him all last season and was cleaned out earlier this offseason).

Big picture, it's certainly valid to worry about the accumulation of wear and tear, as Westbrook approaches his 30th birthday Sept. 2. But there is no reason right now to think that he will be limited by his knee or his ankle this season.

"I would say running would be difficult for 6 weeks, minimum. Conservatively, 8 weeks. Could he run sooner? Sure. But he's got a lot of time right now to work," Bartolozzi said.

If Westbrook has just started running when training camp starts, he probably won't participate in the early contact drills. But that's still a good ways from the Comcast report, which held that Westbrook could miss the entire preseason.

It will be interesting to see if the Eagles are concerned enough to add a veteran running back to the positional mix, which includes second-round rookie LeSean McCoy and third-year vet Lorenzo Booker, who has seen little NFL action.

Westbrook saw Myerson at Baltimore's Mercy Medical Center yesterday. Myerson treated Westbrook's season-ending foot injury in 2005 but probably is better remembered by Eagles fans for his treatment of Owens. Myerson refused to clear Owens to play in the Super Bowl, but Owens played anyway, after hanging the letter from Myerson in his locker stall as motivation.

Westbrook could not be reached for comment. A Mercy Medical Center spokesman said Myerson would defer to the Eagles in discussing Westbrook.

France said Westbrook probably would not have surgery if this were the regular season. Bartolozzi said trainers are usually able to ease the impingement caused by bone spurs with heavy taping.

"We talked about it when he was at the doctor's office and went through the options and decided it was better to clean it up," France told ESPN. "The ankle has been bothering him since last year." *
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Gopher State said:
Signing Edge seems like a real shark move for Philly. A decent experienced back to pair with the rookie.No reason for the Eagles to rush Westy back, if they make the move for Edge, I can see Westy sitting the first 1 or 2 games of the season.With the o-line in Philly Edge could be a very effective RB in the short term
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agreed.havent seen much of mcCoy. he's a pretty small, shifty kinda guy. question is, can he block blitzing LB's?? will he pick up the system quickly enough to be on the field consistently? consensus seems to be Booker aint the guy. can he be the guy this season?? homers??how effective will Westy be post surgery?? he's been counted out before, and keeps provin em wrong. i'm not going to count Westy out until he retires, or shows diminished skills. the guy is a warrior, and a special talent. while this ankle could be the beginning of the end, i have a feeling Westy might be the steal of the draft this season. time will tell.
 
Ron_Mexico said:
FunkyPlutos said:
A veteran that gets to miss training camp and the preseason...Westbrook is probably the happiest guy in the world!!Buy low now!
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Hope people sold this guy.Best days are behind him, imo.
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:goodposting: writing was on the wall , end of last season...this guy can't stay on the field...he's worse than Chrissy Brown in that regard..Bump up McCoy accordingly.More importantly, bump up McNabb ! :lmao: sounds like a hodge-podge RBBC is headed our way.. :banned:
 
This is bad news for Westbrook owners even if he comes back for the regular season at full strength. McCoy will get the opportunity to run with the 1st team all training camp and they will rely on him much more than they would have with Westbrook in TC. McCoy will need to get up to speed much quicker and should be better prepared for the season than he may otherwise would have been. At the end of the day he'll still need to produce on the field but from an opportunity POV it certainly poses more of a threat to Westy's touches than would have happened otherwise.

 
3nOut said:
Day Drinker said:
comfortably numb said:
LeSean McValue
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:thumbup: I am LaHigh on LaSean this year as well.
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If everyone continues to be high on McCoy, then someone will most likely pull the trigger on him too soon. This does NOT make him a value.
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:thumbup: All this news does for me (in redraft in particular) is make me more likely to draft Westbrook and less likely to draft McCoy (who will undoubtedly be taken too early). Dynasty is a different beast obviously.
 
45 posts and nobody has even mentioned that it is June 4th. The season is what, 12 weeks away? Throw a bucket of balls at the westbrook owner and ride him for a year as a 4th RB that plays every week he is healthy for you...

 
I was already very high on McCoy simply because i knew Westbrook would get hurt at some point. It just came quicker than i expected.

And i think it would be to the Eagles' benefit to split the carries 15-15 a game anyway. We all saw what happened last year in the playoffs when Philly tried to run the ball with westbrook between the Tackles and A Gaps. HUGE value boost for McCoy.

 
whole lotta people making huge leaps of faith based on a report in early June and the potential of a rookie.... Hope it pans out for all of you...

 
TheFanatic said:
whole lotta people making huge leaps of faith based on a report in early June and the potential of a rookie.... Hope it pans out for all of you...
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Anytime there's a rookie RB who has a chance to start this is what happens. In 2009, this is especially true b/c of the success of Forte, CJ3, and Slaton last year
 
ugh. I still actually think Westbrook will be fine by the start of the season and have another very good year, but don't have room for him on my keeper team. Was waiting until this month to trade him since the other guys in my league don't start thinking about this stuff until now. Now I'll probably be forced to drop him outright.

I do think he'll be fine by the regular season and still put up 1200+ total yards and 12+ TDs.

 
Westbrook "visually" was not the same RB last year as prior years. He looked to be lingering more than usual and although he has always been dinged up in previous years it appeared it really wore on him more than ever. Maybe this is due to age and not recovering as well anymore. Don't get me wrong he still had some big plays and great game is still a great player, but his better days are clearly behind him.

After two more surgeries and now 30 years old it was time to move Westy before this news broke. Two months ago I was able to land Ryan Grant, 1.9 pick, 2nd round pick, Orlovosky (I have Schuab) and people thought I was silly for making the move.

 
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