What About Steven Jackson? (1 Viewer)

[jeaton6]

I haven't seen anything on SJAX recently and am wondering what folks think about his redraft prospects for next year?

My thoughts are he will provide tremendous value given his injury filled first half. Weeks 12-16 he has averaged over 15 ppg in PPR (14 standard scoring) which puts him around top 10 over that period but he is destined to finish outside of top 30 RBs overall. I expect him to be picked around RB20-24 and probably have a mid to late 5th ADP, what does everyone think?

 

[shadyridr]

He can stil truck a defender but that atlanta oline is miserable. It will need to improve dramatically for me to even think about drafting him again. Even with his good recent stretch he barely found running room and most of his points came from short TDs

 

[Shutout]

I will pass. His good days this year were against almost entirely bad, bad run defenses and he just has age and growing injury issues going.

I normally don't look at injuries and say "injury prone" or likely to get injured but this guy is Eddie George: just a clear history of excessive wear and tear that is catching up to him.

He will have those nice days (but not dominant ones) next year but he is probably also going to miss some time and it will likely be I. Critical weeks that will crush you. I think there is a point where, if you draft old RBs that can't be something special anymore, you set yourself up for misery. Sjax on a healthy falcons team is option 2.b at best. I would take a fjax over him for much cheaper and I bet you get as good or better results

 

[jeaton6]

I will pass. His good days this year were against almost entirely bad, bad run defenses and he just has age and growing injury issues going.

I normally don't look at injuries and say "injury prone" or likely to get injured but this guy is Eddie George: just a clear history of excessive wear and tear that is catching up to him.

He will have those nice days (but not dominant ones) next year but he is probably also going to miss some time and it will likely be I. Critical weeks that will crush you. I think there is a point where, if you draft old RBs that can't be something special anymore, you set yourself up for misery. Sjax on a healthy falcons team is option 2.b at best. I would take a fjax over him for much cheaper and I bet you get as good or better results

I agree he won't be dominant but frankly he really never was because he never put up big TD totals (other than 2006). He has just been a very consistent solid top 10-15 guy on some terrible teams. The line needs upgrades and to get healthy. I view the 2b as a positive when Julio and roddy are both healthy it should open things up for him.

As for Fjax his ADP was late 9th round this year being drafted primarily as a handcuff. He significantly outperformed spiller (top 15 RB) on similar touches. I expect drafters to draft him as a low RB2/high RB3 with handcuff potential and probably have an ADP in the 6th round (can't be much lower than that given this year can it?). So that said would you rather have a guy who will carry the majority of the load or the timeshare split guy that will likely be out touched next year if spiller is healthy with relatively similar ADP? Maybe I'm in the minority but I just can't see Fjax duplicating (or coming within 80%) of next years stats. This was a top 5 of all time performance for a 32 year old.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Ding!

Steven Jackson's done.

 

[Shutout]

I will pass. His good days this year were against almost entirely bad, bad run defenses and he just has age and growing injury issues going.

I normally don't look at injuries and say "injury prone" or likely to get injured but this guy is Eddie George: just a clear history of excessive wear and tear that is catching up to him.

He will have those nice days (but not dominant ones) next year but he is probably also going to miss some time and it will likely be I. Critical weeks that will crush you. I think there is a point where, if you draft old RBs that can't be something special anymore, you set yourself up for misery. Sjax on a healthy falcons team is option 2.b at best. I would take a fjax over him for much cheaper and I bet you get as good or better results

I agree he won't be dominant but frankly he really never was because he never put up big TD totals (other than 2006). He has just been a very consistent solid top 10-15 guy on some terrible teams. The line needs upgrades and to get healthy. I view the 2b as a positive when Julio and roddy are both healthy it should open things up for him.

As for Fjax his ADP was late 9th round this year being drafted primarily as a handcuff. He significantly outperformed spiller (top 15 RB) on similar touches. I expect drafters to draft him as a low RB2/high RB3 with handcuff potential and probably have an ADP in the 6th round (can't be much lower than that given this year can it?). So that said would you rather have a guy who will carry the majority of the load or the timeshare split guy that will likely be out touched next year if spiller is healthy with relatively similar ADP? Maybe I'm in the minority but I just can't see Fjax duplicating (or coming within 80%) of next years stats. This was a top 5 of all time performance for a 32 year old.

Sounds like you kinda have your mind made up. Maybe throwing fjax's name out there muddied the water but, in a nutshell, if nothing else, I'm looking at a 31 year old RB with lots of miles and increasingly frequent injuries, playing on a pass-first team with a so-so line that is most likely to employ the old "let's save sjax for the playoffs when it matters" tactic, which translates into very pedestrian numbers in the heart of the ff season.

I just think you're building a case for an assumed likely 12-15 type of season that has a dozen reasons why he is more liklely to not sniff the top 26 or so.

 

[jeaton6]

I will pass. His good days this year were against almost entirely bad, bad run defenses and he just has age and growing injury issues going.

I normally don't look at injuries and say "injury prone" or likely to get injured but this guy is Eddie George: just a clear history of excessive wear and tear that is catching up to him.

He will have those nice days (but not dominant ones) next year but he is probably also going to miss some time and it will likely be I. Critical weeks that will crush you. I think there is a point where, if you draft old RBs that can't be something special anymore, you set yourself up for misery. Sjax on a healthy falcons team is option 2.b at best. I would take a fjax over him for much cheaper and I bet you get as good or better results

I agree he won't be dominant but frankly he really never was because he never put up big TD totals (other than 2006). He has just been a very consistent solid top 10-15 guy on some terrible teams. The line needs upgrades and to get healthy. I view the 2b as a positive when Julio and roddy are both healthy it should open things up for him. As for Fjax his ADP was late 9th round this year being drafted primarily as a handcuff. He significantly outperformed spiller (top 15 RB) on similar touches. I expect drafters to draft him as a low RB2/high RB3 with handcuff potential and probably have an ADP in the 6th round (can't be much lower than that given this year can it?). So that said would you rather have a guy who will carry the majority of the load or the timeshare split guy that will likely be out touched next year if spiller is healthy with relatively similar ADP? Maybe I'm in the minority but I just can't see Fjax duplicating (or coming within 80%) of next years stats. This was a top 5 of all time performance for a 32 year old.

Sounds like you kinda have your mind made up. Maybe throwing fjax's name out there muddied the water but, in a nutshell, if nothing else, I'm looking at a 31 year old RB with lots of miles and increasingly frequent injuries, playing on a pass-first team with a so-so line that is most likely to employ the old "let's save sjax for the playoffs when it matters" tactic, which translates into very pedestrian numbers in the heart of the ff season. I just think you're building a case for an assumed likely 12-15 type of season that has a dozen reasons why he is more liklely to not sniff the top 26 or so.

 

[pantherclub]

I literally laughed out loud at the dudes that drafted him in the 2nd. I got a hernia from the dudes on this board saying he would lead the league in TDs. All of the red flags were there but people simply refused to acknowledge them.

30 yr old running backs with that mileage die a quick sudden death. Sjax is just another of the many examples.

 

[jeaton6]

Actually I really am looking for others thoughts, while throwing out my own ideas as well. Not really trying to build a case so much as understand the consensus around him and the reasons for that consensus. I have no idea where he shakes out but I do know the Falcons didn't employ that strategy when Turner was there (as a 29/30 year old RB). He did have lower mileage but they rode him into the ground.

It did take SJax longer than most expected to come back from the thigh but I wouldn't call that thigh injury evidence of increasingly frequent injuries. I'd love to see them ease off and give him 15-18 touches per game in that offense (like they've done this year). At the end of the day it's all about the health, if he doesn't break down it seems to me he outperforms if he gets hurt he's a bust like most see him this year.

 

[buck naked]

It depends on what team he ends up on. If he is still the #1 on Atlanta, then he has value as an RB 2 on a team that drafts alot of WRs early.

His best days are obviously behind him, but if he is going to stay the goal line back and catch a few passes, he has some value. It isn't great value, and he will not have a high ceiling.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Steven Jackson, Michael Turner, Jamal Anderson, Mike Rozier. Atlanta is where old running backs go to die.

 

[AAABatteries]

Steven Jackson, Michael Turner, Jamal Anderson, Mike Rozier. Atlanta is where old running backs go to die.

What? Turner was never a starter before he got to Atlanta and Jamal Anderson never played for any other team. I mostly agree with the idea that Jackson is done but your post is idiotic.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Steven Jackson, Michael Turner, Jamal Anderson, Mike Rozier. Atlanta is where old running backs go to die.

What? Turner was never a starter before he got to Atlanta and Jamal Anderson never played for any other team. I mostly agree with the idea that Jackson is done but your post is idiotic.

How about I change "go to die" to just "die"? Would that unbunch your panties?