What affect will poor and losing effort have on pre-season ranking? (1 Viewer)

[rzrback77]

Larry Johnson was completely corraled by the most porous run defense this entire season. He appeared hesitant. Tony Romo in mid-season was on fire, then tailed off at the end and had maybe the bonehead play of the year to lose the playoff game. Shaun Alexander looked slow and hesitant all year after returning from the foot injury.

Will all of these guys drop significantly in post-season rankings and in next year's drafts?

 

[Musesboy]

Larry Johnson was completely corraled by the most porous run defense this entire season. He appeared hesitant. Tony Romo in mid-season was on fire, then tailed off at the end and had maybe the bonehead play of the year to lose the playoff game. Shaun Alexander looked slow and hesitant all year after returning from the foot injury.Will all of these guys drop significantly in post-season rankings and in next year's drafts?

Tomlinson will obviously be the first pick in almost every draft next year. Johnson's performance, combined with Jackson's strong finish make them pretty close, and I could see them taken in either order.Romo has a few big games to his credit. It will depend how things shake out in Dallas. Will Owens stay? But Romo is in a large group of potentially good QBs. You could also look at guys like Grossman and argue that they had just as many big games. I can't see Romo being anything more than a mid-round pick.Alexander has to slide after his performance this year. He will be 30 by next season. Some will have owned him before and will have good memories of that, and it might make him a top five pick. Others will look at his performances this year and think that Seattle have regressed. Hutchinson has gone from the line. Alexander may be considered a bigger injury risk. My biggest concern would be that Seattle no longer automatically hands the ball to Alexander inside the five yard line. Is that a lack of confidence or a change in philosophy? He is not being used the same way as he was in the two previous seasons.But it is a long offseason, so who knows what owners will be thinking by next August?

 

[bentley]

Nobody with half a lick of sense will place any stock in this one game. Now, if you want to talk about how overused Johnson was, how pedestrian Alexander looked throughout the year, or how teams figured Romo out at the end, that's a different story.

 

[Shermanator]

I dont like SA as a top 4 pick next year (with LT, LJ, SJ). In my PPR league I personally would strongly consider Addai at #4. I can see a strong decline in SA from here on out. When The big power type backs slow down, they seem fall off the table fast.

Conversely, I see no slow down in LJ's game. He was just stopped by a pumped up Colts D. In two years or so I will worry about LJ. Not next year. Still top 3 back easily.

Looks like Romo is an average qb afterall. Possibly top ten, but not in my top ten. IMO he is a fringe starter

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

LJ - You take this guy #2, except possibly in a PPR. I wouldn't hold his last performance against him, the whole team laid an egg.

Romo - a borderline trustworthy QB1, someone you want another strong borderline QB1 with, like Big Ben. Probably no higher than a 7th or 8th round pick.

SA should fall to the mid first, but no later, and he'll be a value imo. I'll take him at 6-7-8 all day. He really never was his old self this year, but he's still the main man much in the same way LJ is, even if he has less ability to cash it in statistically at this point in his career.

 

[rzrback77]

Nobody with half a lick of sense will place any stock in this one game. Now, if you want to talk about how overused Johnson was, how pedestrian Alexander looked throughout the year, or how teams figured Romo out at the end, that's a different story.

In essence, I agree that all three already had ample reason to drop. Probably in LJ's case, the lack of serious competition at the top of the RB list will leave him at 2 or 3 and most will de-emphasize the number of carries that he has had in the past year and a half and the fact that Indi's porous run defense shut him down the last game.I think if Shaun Alexander has another less than stellar game in the next round, that he could potentially fall below top ten next year and his poor playoff performance(s) would accelerate his drop.I think that in Romo's case, he'll fall from sure starter (ten and twelve team leagues) to solid back-up with potential. In recent dyansty message board polls, he came in at 12, ahead of Bulger, Cutler, Rothlisberger, and Alex Smith. I doubt that would happen today nor this summer.

 

[BGP]

Larry Johnson - it was just one game.

Alexander - he's getting older which is more of a concern.

Tony Romo - well its hard to project a 27 year old QB with 12 career NFL starts. He's probably in the mix of backup fantasy QBs somewhere. How his offseason goes may influence his draft position, rightfully or not. If the media reports he is putting extra time in at training camp and looks sharp etc., etc., he may go a round or two higher.

 

[rzrback77]

LJ - You take this guy #2, except possibly in a PPR. I wouldn't hold his last performance against him, the whole team laid an egg.Romo - a borderline trustworthy QB1, someone you want another strong borderline QB1 with, like Big Ben. Probably no higher than a 7th or 8th round pick.SA should fall to the mid first, but no later, and he'll be a value imo. I'll take him at 6-7-8 all day. He really never was his old self this year, but he's still the main man much in the same way LJ is, even if he has less ability to cash it in statistically at this point in his career.

I agree that LJ is at worst the third pick.I will be surprised that SA goes in the top ten.Romo - I agree, but the message board dynasty consensus ranked him 12th recently, ahead of Big Ben, Bulger, Cutler, and Alex Smith.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I will be surprised that SA goes in the top ten.

He will in leagues that Im in. He's still one of only a handful of RBs that are the true focus of their offense, including in the red zone.I could understand seeing him fall out of the top 10 in an initial dynasty draft, but he is still a bonafide top 10 pick in redraft leagues. Even a weakened SA was good for over 15 points a game down the stretch.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I will be surprised that SA goes in the top ten.

He will in leagues that Im in. He's still one of only a handful of RBs that are the true focus of their offense, including in the red zone.I could understand seeing him fall out of the top 10 in an initial dynasty draft, but he is still a bonafide top 10 pick in redraft leagues. Even a weakened SA was good for over 15 points a game down the stretch.

SA will be a steal in next years draft

 

[george]

 

[H.K.]

I will be surprised that SA goes in the top ten.

He will in leagues that Im in. He's still one of only a handful of RBs that are the true focus of their offense, including in the red zone.I could understand seeing him fall out of the top 10 in an initial dynasty draft, but he is still a bonafide top 10 pick in redraft leagues. Even a weakened SA was good for over 15 points a game down the stretch.

I thought SA looked pretty good last night. He seemed to run hard and juke less than earlier in his career.Over 900 total yards and 7 TD's in only ten games is solid. Thing is, he played the beginning of the season hurt, too.He'll be a consensus top five pick next year as long as he is healthy in the pre-season.

 

[BassNBrew]

I will be surprised that SA goes in the top ten.

He will in leagues that Im in. He's still one of only a handful of RBs that are the true focus of their offense, including in the red zone.I could understand seeing him fall out of the top 10 in an initial dynasty draft, but he is still a bonafide top 10 pick in redraft leagues. Even a weakened SA was good for over 15 points a game down the stretch.

SA will be a steal in next years draft

He'll go in the 4-5 in every draft...don't think that will make him a steal.

 

[EdwardCat]

Nobody with half a lick of sense will place any stock in this one game. Now, if you want to talk about how overused Johnson was, how pedestrian Alexander looked throughout the year, or how teams figured Romo out at the end, that's a different story.

Unfortunately, there are loads of people without a lick of sense.

 

[Marc Levin]

Nobody with half a lick of sense will place any stock in this one game. Now, if you want to talk about how overused Johnson was, how pedestrian Alexander looked throughout the year, or how teams figured Romo out at the end, that's a different story.

I don't understand how you can downgrade LJ based on one inspired effort by the Colts D at home after the 32 game run he just had.Like Yudkin and Bloom stated in the LJ dynasty thread, you WANT a young, fresh back to get a lot of touches - esp, with a HC like Herm Edwards who appears comfortable running LJ until the wheels come off.