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[the branded hand]

I don't know if there's any bad blood there or not, but could it make sense? He'd have two of the best WR's in the business and an offensive line that was showing some promise...

Any thoughts?

 

[bcr8f]

Martz to Arizona? I don't know if they'd want him there but it is an interesting idea. With that talent it could be a good move.

 

[Federal]

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[loose circuits]

I wonder if Warner would lobby for him? that offense could work...

 

[the branded hand]

Martz to Arizona? I don't know if they'd want him there but it is an interesting idea. With that talent it could be a good move.

Only if Boldin stays. He and Fitz would rack up all sorts of points with him there. Of course Martz was never good at protecting QB's, so you have to wonder if they'd be willing to take that chance. I would be "an interesting idea".

I wonder if Warner would lobby for him? that offense could work...

I've read he's worried about maintaining a high powered passing game and not allowing things to fall off in the coming year. With Haley gone that's going to be tough. He was in there with those guys all the time pushing, finding ways to make everything better. Could it have been the effect of having Whisenhunt and Grimm there? They came from one of the most driven franchises with a knack for building winners... time will tell, but it does seem Warner wants an assurance of production... NOW... or retire...

 

[Couch Potato]

Zona cant run the ball anyway. Martz would like that.

 

[Captain Hook]

I agree with the previous 0 poster as I think there is that much chance that Whisenhunt would hire Martz......current speculation down here is that Grimm will be named OC but Whiz will really call the plays and they might bring in a young QB coach - more to work with Leinart and/or a newly drafted QB

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

NFL Headlines

Cardinals considering Martz to run offense?

Matt Maiocco of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat hears that the Cardinals recently asked the 49ers for Mike Martz's cellphone number.

Maiocco admits it's only a rumor and hasn't been able to confirm it, but Arizona has an opening at offensive coordinator and Martz is a free agent. Hiring Martz definitely wouldn't hurt the Cards' chances of keeping Kurt Warner. Feb. 8 - 1:13 pm et

 

[Xue]

Martz to Arizona? I don't know if they'd want him there but it is an interesting idea. With that talent it could be a good move.

Only if Boldin stays. He and Fitz would rack up all sorts of points with him there. Of course Martz was never good at protecting QB's, so you have to wonder if they'd be willing to take that chance. I would be "an interesting idea".

The Cards were pretty pass-heavy last year as it is already and Warner held up fine. Also, I believe Warner had the highest passer rating against the blitz.

 

[MAC_32]

I could be wrong, but I believe Martz and Warner ended on very bad terms in St Louis. I don't see this happening, and if it does I see it ending badly.

 

[moondog]

I don't see how two strong personalities like Wisenhunt and Martz could get along. It would be fun to watch though.

 

[SuperJohn96]

Mike Martz vs. Kurt Warner

Kurt Warner Silences Mike Martz and His Media Lapdog Bernie Miklasz

From: The Bleacher Report by Tom Highway

With Arizona Cardinal quarterback Kurt Warner preparing for next Sunday's Super Bowl and with the entire nation taking measure of his phenomenal back-to-back seasons in the desert, football fans must wonder, "How could the Rams have parted ways with a quarterback who possesses such special talents?"

Five years after his release from the Rams, this topic is still as controversial and white-hot as ever...And until the story is addressed honestly, it won't be going away anytime soon.

At the center of the storm are two questionable characters—former Rams head coach Mike Martz and St. Louis sportswriter Bernie Miklasz. In the early 2000s, Martz and Miklasz forged a mutually-beneficial relationship.

Martz routinely gave Miklasz exclusive access to his inner thoughts, and in return Miklasz delivered favorable Monday-morning analysis. The coach/reporter relationship became so incestuous, that Miklasz was even widely referred to as Martz's "Lapdog."

And when Mike Martz set out to run Kurt Warner out of St. Louis, he enlisted the aid of his friend Bernie Miklasz. A head coach cannot push a two-time MVP QB with a Super Bowl ring to the curb without some media cover. His friend Bernie was more than happy to deliver.

Under the guise of "objective reporting", Miklasz regurgitated a series of Martz's paranoid rants against Kurt Warner across the sports page, giving Martz all the cover he needed to get rid of Kurt and replace him with Marc Bulger. Today, replacing Warner with Bulger sounds like a ridiculous concept, but yes—it actually happened.

As a general rule, NFL coaches and management speak no ill of their players abilities or health—a wise business approach to maintaining their trade value. Yet Martz, through Miklasz, saw to it that Warner was portrayed as washed up and possessing a "crippled claw" throwing hand.

Not only was it bad business, it turned out to be a petty and vindictive attempt to end Warner's career.

And the results were indeed damaging. Warner was exiled to New York where fans were calling for No. 1 draft pick and "quarterback of the future" Eli Manning before Warner ever took the field.

And despite leading a terrible 2004 Giant team to a 5-4 record and despite becoming the Giant QB with the highest completion percentage in franchise history (that record still holds today), Warner was still benched. With Eli Manning at QB, the Giants finished the season 1-6, wholly validating Warner's accomplishments with a team in rebuilding mode.

Then, with a still-tarnished reputation, courtesy of the Martz/Miklasz fabrications, Warner could only find work at the least successful franchise in the history of the NFL—the Arizona Cardinals.

And in true Bidwillian fashion, his talents were again dismissed...This time in favor of Matt Leinart—another "quarterback of the future" with no talent and perhaps no NFL future.

And yet Warner pressed forward and kept himself ready...until 2007...In which Matt Leinart engineered the worst passing offense in the NFL in the season's first five weeks and was subsequently injured, allowing Warner to take over and help build the top passing attack in the league.

In the process, as Kurt amply demonstrated, he never lost his ability...Only his reputation.

And now for the past year and a half, Warner has averaged almost 300 passing yards and over two touchdowns per game. This season, Warner was named to his fourth Pro Bowl, and led his team into the postseason.

And in his three playoff games, he led his team to three upset victories, throwing eight touchdowns and only two interceptions. And in the past month, sportswriters across the country are discussing Warner's bid for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

But not in St. Louis.

There, Bernie Miklasz is busy building a defense against a tidal wave of criticism. At this time and under these circumstances, one would expect an objective St. Louis sportswriter to be asking a few tough questions right about now of former Rams head coach Mike Martz and Rams president John Shaw: "How could you have let that one get away?"

However, this is the question that Miklasz would not dare to ask, because he shares as much culpability as they do. Instead, this week, he penned a self-serving spin piece in which he tried to re-write history in his favor, all the while ignoring the obvious facts that shred his flimsy case. Several readers took Miklasz to task, pointing out his most glaring omissions:

First, Miklasz tossed out a cherry-picked win-loss record for Warner in his last two injury-plagued seasons with the Rams, but he failed to mention that most of Warner's losses were on the road against stronger opponents than Marc Bulger faced.

And of course he failed to mention that neither the Rams nor Marc Bulger have had a winning season since Warner was released.

And he neglected to mention the absurdity and shamefulness in throwing a two-time league MVP, Super Bowl MVP and pillar of the community to the curb because he was injured.

He did manage to produce a second-hand quote from Mike Martz, the guy who supposedly made the right call in firing Warner, but neglected to mention that Martz has since been fired thrice himself and will be watching this year's Super Bowl from the NFL unemployment line.

And Miklasz once again failed to mention (or name) the Rams coach who mocked Warner's religious beliefs in practice in front of his teammates.

And of course there was no mention of the fact that the vindictive Mike Martz, with Miklasz as his accomplice, tried to sell Warner as damaged goods to the rest of the NFL after they fired him...As opposed to how Tom Coughlin helped Kurt get another starting job after he left the Giants.

The slander of Kurt Warner in 2003 by Martz and his most ardent media apologist and lapdog is a sleazy story that will (hopefully) someday be analyzed by an outside, credible writer.

But meanwhile, Kurt Warner has overcome that smear campaign to elevate the Arizona Cardinals to their first-ever Super Bowl. Unlike those who set out to destroy him and his career, he is a true winner and champion.

 

[MAC_32]

Thanks Super John, I thought I remembered that ending badly.

This should put any Martz to AZ talk to bed.

I think Martz is the most over rated OC currently in the game, he would be better off taking the helm at a struggling college program.

 

[the branded hand]

However, this is the question that Miklasz would not dare to ask, because he shares as much culpability as they do. Instead, this week, he penned a self-serving spin piece in which he tried to re-write history in his favor, all the while ignoring the obvious facts that shred his flimsy case. Several readers took Miklasz to task, pointing out his most glaring omissions:First, Miklasz tossed out a cherry-picked win-loss record for Warner in his last two injury-plagued seasons with the Rams, but he failed to mention that most of Warner's losses were on the road against stronger opponents than Marc Bulger faced.And of course he failed to mention that neither the Rams nor Marc Bulger have had a winning season since Warner was released.And he neglected to mention the absurdity and shamefulness in throwing a two-time league MVP, Super Bowl MVP and pillar of the community to the curb because he was injured.He did manage to produce a second-hand quote from Mike Martz, the guy who supposedly made the right call in firing Warner, but neglected to mention that Martz has since been fired thrice himself and will be watching this year's Super Bowl from the NFL unemployment line.And Miklasz once again failed to mention (or name) the Rams coach who mocked Warner's religious beliefs in practice in front of his teammates.And of course there was no mention of the fact that the vindictive Mike Martz, with Miklasz as his accomplice, tried to sell Warner as damaged goods to the rest of the NFL after they fired him...As opposed to how Tom Coughlin helped Kurt get another starting job after he left the Giants.The slander of Kurt Warner in 2003 by Martz and his most ardent media apologist and lapdog is a sleazy story that will (hopefully) someday be analyzed by an outside, credible writer.But meanwhile, Kurt Warner has overcome that smear campaign to elevate the Arizona Cardinals to their first-ever Super Bowl. Unlike those who set out to destroy him and his career, he is a true winner and champion.

That does sum it up... thanks SJ96! I think Wiz and Grimm do have more integrity that that.