Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
They can save some time and resources by dropping the drug testing and upping the virus testing.
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What are the odds the 2020 NFL season is played? (1 Viewer)
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tamales
Footballguy
Even if 1m people die, while that's a horrifying number, that's still only 0.3% of our population.
So hypothetically if the virus is still spreading, you want life to get back to normal even if millions of people die in the process because of the economic repercussions? Because you think the economic impact will be worse? Do I have that right?
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
Which means 1 out if every 300 people...dying from something that I have to think if it doesn’t already, will scare 100% of us. We will all most likely lose someone in our circle - be it family, friends, colleagues...maximum two degrees of separation.
The NFL soldiering on during such a time feels short-sighted at best...indescribable at worst.
tamales
Footballguy
People will need the distraction. We have all lost loved ones and gone back to work and life. This will be no different.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
With the thing that caused all that devastation still likely to be a thing of the present, not the past?
tamales
Footballguy
This won't be a thing of the past for a long time. So yes. We will have to learn to live with it. People die of heart attacks, cancer, etc. Those aren't things of the past. Death is part of life.
tamales
Footballguy
Do people not realize this virus will be around for a long time? Life has to go on at some point. All the restrictions we're putting in place now are only to flatten the curve, not to eliminate the virus. Once we flatten the curve restrictions will be lifted. We won't be flattening the curve for 6 months.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
otb_lifer
Footballguy
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I would guess things will settle down after three months of places mostly shutdown. Then another 3 months of picking up the pieces and dipping toes in the water to see how things go. By then we could be looking at a fall season of another round of sick people or a mutation.
Once we are in recovery mode, where would football fall in importance given that the financial, housing, healthcare, manufacturing, hospitality, travel, automotive, and countless other industries will need to get on their feet? Is football anywhere near an essential industry?
If they start thinking out of the box, maybe there is a workaround to start football. Find a location with minimal cases with multiple places to play and have ALL the players there. No travel, no fans, little risk of exposure. The problem would be no home games, no ticket sales, no concessions, etc. That might be doable but not sure how profitable.
Once we are in recovery mode, where would football fall in importance given that the financial, housing, healthcare, manufacturing, hospitality, travel, automotive, and countless other industries will need to get on their feet? Is football anywhere near an essential industry?
If they start thinking out of the box, maybe there is a workaround to start football. Find a location with minimal cases with multiple places to play and have ALL the players there. No travel, no fans, little risk of exposure. The problem would be no home games, no ticket sales, no concessions, etc. That might be doable but not sure how profitable.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
0% chance of full season with spectators in crowd at every game
75% chance of ~12-game season with no spectators.
What I'm most concerned about is the possibility that the coronavirus curve gets flattened in the summer......then everyone assumes that the virus has been eradicated......then we start cramming 75K people into football stadiums.........and then the virus comes back with a vengeance in the fall. Just like the 1918 flu pandemic.
75% chance of ~12-game season with no spectators.
What I'm most concerned about is the possibility that the coronavirus curve gets flattened in the summer......then everyone assumes that the virus has been eradicated......then we start cramming 75K people into football stadiums.........and then the virus comes back with a vengeance in the fall. Just like the 1918 flu pandemic.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The 3 on 3 hoops league is working on this. Should make a decent test case if the NFL is interested.
To be clear, this is speaking from a business side. Obviously, the health side is infinitely more important.
But to answer the question of whether the NFL plays - I sure hope so. I'm unfortunately one of those people who's family's livelihood is dependent on the league. We'll see.
And that's interesting @Leroy Hoard on the 3 on 3 league. Do you have more info?
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Three or four players on a team is a much smaller scale than all the players and coaches and teams in the NFL. The league would need to find somewhere that could accommodate 2,000 people and 6-8 fields. They could play double headers and have games on multiple days to facilitate game day activities. But not sure how you could have teams have daily practices unless they got assigned different times to use the same fields. It’s probably doable but would be a far cry from regular football.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I could even see Corona Virus scares popping up throughout the year whether they turn out factual or not. Like crying "Fire!" in a theater.
Capella
Footballguy
Yea. I mean the college players aren’t being paid. Nfl players could justify being quarantined by collecting their salaries — they’ll never get that money back if they don’t. Imagine a non-paid college player infecting another one who then went on to play another team the next week. Nightmare.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I understand what you are saying. Did you know or read/here that NBA salaries likely suspended April 1st. I would assume other leagues will want to follow. That is a lot of money sucked up out of the economy, however you want to slice it and look at it.
Capella
Footballguy
That’s why I think somehow they’ll play by July or august. Players won’t want to lose a year of income (or months in hoops and hockey) and the leagues will have time to figure out a way to be safe.
But if this continues to head south, maybe not.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
It’s not that—-you can’t just “up” the virus testing. Somebody could test negative on a Saturday and test positive on Sunday. Unless the NFL can find a way to perform thousands of test per week that give them instantaneous results—I’m not sure how they would start a season. It literally takes one person to slip through the cracks and the entire thing might need to be shut down again. It’s not as easy as just “switch drug testing to covid testing”.
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facook
Footballguy
I am becoming more and more convinced there is a very vocal segment of our society that is hoping CV leads to our society becoming far less capitalist and far more socialist. Pro sports would only be a reflection of that.
Ksquared
Footballguy
That is becoming very evident if you follow the comments here and in the main COVID 19 thread. BUT I HATE to burst the bubble of the NFL haters, but the NFLPA would not agree to postpone the FA season. This was stated on several different NFL and ESPN radio shows that I was listening to last weekend. But that is ok because it gives good ammunition to trash a sector some do not like.
Capella
Footballguy
The only way it doesn’t happen I believe is if we are still in a mandated quarantine. Otherwise they’ll come back for the “good of the country” or some crap.
NutterButter
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
NutterButter
Footballguy
If the pros won't be playing, does that mean that college fb won't be playing either? And if no college football, does that mean college will be significantly delayed? I'm really starting to feel bad for you folks with kids at home if this is how it all plays out.
I may have to lower my 1% projection.
For those that don't like clicking on articles, Cuomo saying closures could last as long as 9 months.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/yorks-governor-just-warned-coronavirus-184000856.html
For those that don't like clicking on articles, Cuomo saying closures could last as long as 9 months.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/yorks-governor-just-warned-coronavirus-184000856.html
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DaVinci
FairTaxguy
NutterButter
Footballguy
And Buffalo had a legitimate shot to win the division this year. Talk about a snake bitten franchise.Good thing the Jets and Giants play in New Jersey.
Chemical X
Footballguy
we need to come to grips with the fact that 2020 is cancelled. if something actually stays on schedule, i’ll be shocked.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Your theology is as bad as your math.The 32 Owners are squarely to blame with Goodell as the ringleader so those 33 is where I'll start. And ironically that's how old Jesus was at the time of his death so I have the bible on my side
-OZ-
Footballguy
Tom Brady leaves New England.
Belichick gets the season cancelled.
He truly is a Mastermind.
squistion
Footballguy
It looks like the draft will be held as scheduled.
Sam FarmerVerified account @LATimesfarmer Mar 21
NFL plans to stage its draft next month in a studio setting rather than Las Vegas
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-03-21/nfl-plans-to-stage-its-draft-next-month-in-a-studio-setting-rather-than-in-las-vegas
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Patriots have $4 million in cap space left for 2020. But NE has $110 million in cap space for 2021. Could the 2020 season getting cancelled really be considered a coincidence with the Evil Genius still walking the planet?
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
No, we dont. I dont understand people who are so cocksure on either end of the spectrum. We simply dont know whats going to happen.
Side note:
Staying on schedule is not the same as not playing.
I posted something similar in the Sharkpool thread about the CV impact on the season but the Tokyo Olympics getting postponed to likely 2021 has upped my concern.
Those Olympics were scheduled to begin on July 24th which that time frame last year almost all NFL teams had reported to training camp.
Certainly understand that Olympics involve more international travel and bringing people together from different parts of the world more then an NFL games. Also understand the Olympics take more planning/building to host then NFL teams need to start the season but this still raised my concern level higher on the season starting on time.
Those Olympics were scheduled to begin on July 24th which that time frame last year almost all NFL teams had reported to training camp.
Certainly understand that Olympics involve more international travel and bringing people together from different parts of the world more then an NFL games. Also understand the Olympics take more planning/building to host then NFL teams need to start the season but this still raised my concern level higher on the season starting on time.
Capella
Footballguy
I agree in part but also the Olympics had a high amount of qualifiers that had to take place before the actual games start. That was a big part of the cancellation imo. Those qualifiers couldn’t be held.
Capella
Footballguy
If it’s as bad or worse as it is right now then the world is pretty much shot. I certainly hope that isn’t the case.
Sorry if this was covered already but does anyone know how all of this works in professional sports with compensation to various parties?
Do the leagues still get all the money from their TV partners? Do the players still all get their pay even if no games are played or a reduction in games?
I'm not understanding how networks would have to pay for games that are not available or players get paid if no network TV money or gate/concession revenue?
Are networks or teams/leagues protected against this by insurance?
Do the leagues still get all the money from their TV partners? Do the players still all get their pay even if no games are played or a reduction in games?
I'm not understanding how networks would have to pay for games that are not available or players get paid if no network TV money or gate/concession revenue?
Are networks or teams/leagues protected against this by insurance?
Chemical X
Footballguy
For what I do, we need to be somewhat sure. This is going to get much worse before it gets better. As I've said, this is a large and stupid, selfish country. Do we think this is going to be like a train stopping at its station and everything will then be fine? I may be strictly looking at this from an economic standpoint, but there wont be a summer, so to speak. Vacations, rentals, tourism will be nil. Trickle down is obviously noted. For the NFL to come on line, you need OTAs open and training camps in July, which is 4 months away. I think we have bigger issues right now than worrying if the NFL will have a season. If they do, its solely a cash grab IMO.
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