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What can you guys tell me about Seattle, Washington? (1 Viewer)

Since there isn't quality Mexican food then good Soul Food is out too, I guess?  :P

But seriously, thanks for the replies. I'm gonna visit one of these days.

 
krista4 said:
I think there's some great Mexican food in Seattle, but if you're looking for Tex-Mex, then maybe not. :shrug:
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I've had some there.  The place my buddy took me to the night before we met at the races was excellent, but I'm not sure if it was Mexican or something else.  In Fremont.  Really liked it.

 
General Malaise said:
Mexican food in Portland is atrocious.  I've quit trying.  Yes, there's some decent spots and some food carts are alright, but I'm from Texas and I do miss good Tex-Mex joints.  I have a really stupid theory on this, but I don't know how else to explain it because there are many Mexicans here that own and run these Mexican restaurants.  The recipes don't change.  They didn't forget how to cook.  My tin foil hat explanation?  It's the water.  Cooking with it up here changes the taste vs cooking it in Texas.  That's stupid and wrong and would be disproven in seconds, but damn it, I don't know what else it is.  

And the other thing - the giant Mexican food places that draw good crowds despite their awful food have the dumbest names in the world.  Si Senor and Muchos Gracias....would you open a restaurant in Mexico and call it "YES SIR" or "Thank You Much!".  No.  What the hell, man?  
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I think they just make what sells.   I mean, if someone is going to go into a restaurant named "Si Senor" or "Muchas Gracias", how discerning can they be?

 
General Malaise said:
Food in the Pac NW is excellent.  Complaining about it is really silly.  Portland and Seattle both have come a long way in 20 years I've been here.  There's so much going on up here with the explosion of food carts where survival of the fittest means the pretenders can't cut it.  You gotta draw them in or you'll be done in a hurry.  So many bright young minds creating innovative and delicious dishes with availability to some of the freshest ingredients in the country.  

Worst case for me is I waltz into a local grocery store and buy fresh rockfish or salmon fished out locally and priced sensibly and I cook it up on the grill.  That's hard to beat.
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Mexican immigrants probably cook Mexican food. You miss Tex-Mex. 

Tex-Mex <> Mexican

 
The Future Champs said:
I think they just make what sells.   I mean, if someone is going to go into a restaurant named "Si Senor" or "Muchas Gracias", how discerning can they be?
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Yeah it's a LOT of low quality food that's cheap filler to make.  But give people a giant garbage can lid full of refried beans, rice with some cheese on top and you'll please many of them enough to come back.

 
Agreed that there isn't much good traditional Tex-Mex around.

On the other hand, I can get the best burrito I have ever had outside of the Mission District in downtown Redmond.

 
The Pacific NW is so great my wife and I are considering moving to Portland sometime soon.  Apparently, lots of other people think the same because there's some internet movement by the local hipsters to keep people from moving there.  

Seattle is great too, but Portland seems to have better everything but lower house prices.  

 
Bad traffic in Portland now too.  Mind numbingly bad.  I've given up driving to work, which is 12 miles from home.  Too many people, not enough infrastructure.  Public transport is great though.

 
Like others have said, if you don't like rain/gloom don't even think about moving to Seattle.  Being So Cal guy here are my observations (i spend a week per month there for years for work):  1).  Despite what some may think, the food actually is very good.  It is not SF quality but still very good.  2).  it is very hard to meet people.  Now I travel a lot so i am pretty good at making the best out of any situation.  I found it very hard to mingle here.  Could just be that i was there for a limited amount of time each week.  3).  It is VERY gloomy 4).  if you like outdoors (hiking, mountain biking, boating, etc) it is wonderful. I don't know how to fully explain what a pretty scenic area the PNW is.  Heck, if you have only lived in texas your whole life you are really missing out.  Try it out for a few years and see what happens.  You can always move back with a few years of experience under your belt.     

 
Scoresman said:
The Pacific NW is so great my wife and I are considering moving to Portland sometime soon.  Apparently, lots of other people think the same because there's some internet movement by the local hipsters to keep people from moving there.  

Seattle is great too, but Portland seems to have better everything but lower house prices.  
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You should definitely move to Portland.   

 
General Malaise said:
Food in the Pac NW is excellent.  Complaining about it is really silly.  Portland and Seattle both have come a long way in 20 years I've been here.  There's so much going on up here with the explosion of food carts where survival of the fittest means the pretenders can't cut it.  You gotta draw them in or you'll be done in a hurry.  So many bright young minds creating innovative and delicious dishes with availability to some of the freshest ingredients in the country.  

Worst case for me is I waltz into a local grocery store and buy fresh rockfish or salmon fished out locally and priced sensibly and I cook it up on the grill.  That's hard to beat.
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The food complaint I assumed was some light trolling. Food is great in PNW. 

 
msommer said:
This thread needs more focus on the beer
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:thumbup:

From my house I can bike to probably 10 breweries in under 20 minutes and another 10 taprooms with countless rotating taps.

If you are a wine drinker there is an area out in the burbs that has probably 100 tasting rooms with good wines.

 
The General said:
:thumbup:

From my house I can bike to probably 10 breweries in under 20 minutes and another 10 taprooms with countless rotating taps.

If you are a wine drinker there is an area out in the burbs that has probably 100 tasting rooms with good wines.
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Woodinville.   That area has changed so much since I moved here.    Wine tourism is a big business.   All the grapes in Washington are grown on the other side of the Cascades, btw.   

Honestly, I think visiting the vineyards is much more enjoyable, although it means 3-4 hours of driving.

Also, I'd like to give a shout out to Oregon's beautiful wine country.

 
The General said:
Have not been there. Will try out.
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Their main thing is "San Diego style" burritos with french fries in them. Those are okay, but not really my thing.

They also have an "Acapulco" style burrito that is excellent. The Acapulco pork burrito with red sauce and fried jalapenos is second only to a beef cheek grilled burrito from La Taqueria (in SF) in my rankings.

 
The Future Champs said:
Woodinville.   That area has changed so much since I moved here.    Wine tourism is a big business.   All the grapes in Washington are grown on the other side of the Cascades, btw.   

Honestly, I think visiting the vineyards is much more enjoyable, although it means 3-4 hours of driving.

Also, I'd like to give a shout out to Oregon's beautiful wine country.
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I haven't gotten into the Seattle wineries. Spokane has some pretty good ones.

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
Their main thing is "San Diego style" burritos with french fries in them. Those are okay, but not really my thing.

They also have an "Acapulco" style burrito that is excellent. The Acapulco pork burrito with red sauce and fried jalapenos is second only to a beef cheek grilled burrito from La Taqueria (in SF) in my rankings.
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There is a chain that sells San Diego's best burritos, or so they claim. Their food sucks, IMO. Altiplano, or something like that.

 
The Future Champs said:
Woodinville.   That area has changed so much since I moved here.    Wine tourism is a big business.   All the grapes in Washington are grown on the other side of the Cascades, btw.   

Honestly, I think visiting the vineyards is much more enjoyable, although it means 3-4 hours of driving.

Also, I'd like to give a shout out to Oregon's beautiful wine country.
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:thumbup:

I've hit Woodinville a few times and really like the Novelty Hill/Januik winery for bocce ball.  But the proximity to Willamette Valley wineries is a big advantage for Portland.  The Chehalem Mountains are a 15 minute drive from my house and offer some outstanding wineries with breathtaking views.  Hundreds of little wineries scattered throughout the Willamette Valley, which means you can spread out a bit and not get overrun with people.  Hood River is an underrated city with access to vineyards and breweries and only about an hour's drive from Portland.  I've not done it, but I hope to hit the southern region of the state with my wife as there are some exceptional vineyards in the Rogue and Umpqua valleys.    

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
Their main thing is "San Diego style" burritos with french fries in them. Those are okay, but not really my thing.

They also have an "Acapulco" style burrito that is excellent. The Acapulco pork burrito with red sauce and fried jalapenos is second only to a beef cheek grilled burrito from La Taqueria (in SF) in my rankings.
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Sold.  I will seek this out next time I'm there.

 
General Malaise said:
:thumbup:

I've hit Woodinville a few times and really like the Novelty Hill/Januik winery for bocce ball.  But the proximity to Willamette Valley wineries is a big advantage for Portland.  The Chehalem Mountains are a 15 minute drive from my house and offer some outstanding wineries with breathtaking views.  Hundreds of little wineries scattered throughout the Willamette Valley, which means you can spread out a bit and not get overrun with people.  Hood River is an underrated city with access to vineyards and breweries and only about an hour's drive from Portland.  I've not done it, but I hope to hit the southern region of the state with my wife as there are some exceptional vineyards in the Rogue and Umpqua valleys.    
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All awesome places, love Willamette Valley. Have not been to Southern part of OR. Walla Walla is worth a trip, pretty country out there.

My wife and I are members :lookatme: at Januik. Amazing deal, you need to purchase something like 6 bottles every 6 months but with that you get unlimited free wine tastings and a discount on all bottles.

 
I've been to Portland twice in the last few months, after not having been there for 20 years or so. 

There are certainly lots of great places to eat and drink and the city is a more convenient size than the Seattle area or the Bay Area, but JFC the hipster thing is out of control. And I am saying that as somebody who has spent a ton of time in Seattle, Austin and SF. Portlandia isn't satire at all, it is basically a documentary.

 
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proninja said:
I really like Portland, but yeah, I feel a bit out of place downtown. Suburbs remind me a lot of home though. 
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We just stayed at an Airbnb place in Northeast Portland. It was nice and convenient and the East side has a ton of great restaurants and drinking spots, but the ironic mustaches, skinny jeans and stupid hats were beyond abundant.

It was like a combo of Seattle's Georgetown and Capitol Hill neighborhoods everywhere. 

 
Hit Great Notion Brewing last night on Alberta and 22nd.   Fantastic food and drink...highly recommend

/portland

 
proninja said:
Really, the case for Portland over Seattle begins and ends with Cascade brewing. So good. 
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Met JTC there a few months back.  It's awesome.  

Have you checked out Loyal Legion yet?  99 beers on tap; all from Oregon.  Only been once (hooray small kids!) but was really impressed.

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
We just stayed at an Airbnb place in Northeast Portland. It was nice and convenient and the East side has a ton of great restaurants and drinking spots, but the ironic mustaches, skinny jeans and stupid hats were beyond abundant.

It was like a combo of Seattle's Georgetown and Capitol Hill neighborhoods everywhere. 
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I just want to know when and where they work, because you'll see them wandering around all hours of the day, populating the bars & restaurants during the week and sucking down American Spirits cigs.  Either they're trust funders, service industry, bloggers or living off the gov.  It's perplexing.  But tattoos ain't cheap and they're covered, head to toe, exposing their inked up, zit covered pale flesh for all to see.  

Every morning I get off the train in Tualatin to go to work, a guy who is way past expiration date for Hipsterdom and looks like a washed out Steve Perry (who himself is washed out) rolls on to the train with his unicycle.  Pleasant guy, smiles at everyone, but my god....I hope that gets him laid because what on earth would possess a man of his age to commute by unicycle?

 
proninja said:
My, that's an ironic beard. May I suggest some pants that are a little looser?
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:lmao:  While I prefer Portland over Seattle in all ways, that is a fair comment. There are no shortage of hipsters here. I've learned to live with the #####-canoes, and now find them humourous where they used to annoy the hell out of me. 

 
General Malaise said:
Mexican food in Portland is atrocious.  I've quit trying.  Yes, there's some decent spots and some food carts are alright, but I'm from Texas and I do miss good Tex-Mex joints.  I have a really stupid theory on this, but I don't know how else to explain it because there are many Mexicans here that own and run these Mexican restaurants.  The recipes don't change.  They didn't forget how to cook.  My tin foil hat explanation?  It's the water.  Cooking with it up here changes the taste vs cooking it in Texas.  That's stupid and wrong and would be disproven in seconds, but damn it, I don't know what else it is.  

And the other thing - the giant Mexican food places that draw good crowds despite their awful food have the dumbest names in the world.  Si Senor and Muchos Gracias....would you open a restaurant in Mexico and call it "YES SIR" or "Thank You Much!".  No.  What the hell, man?  




 
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Um, Nuestra Cocina, Por Que No? While I realize they are contemporary and not tex-mex, they are damn good. That being said Mexican is not well represented here, no doubt. Thai though... :wub:

 
tonydead said:
Yeah, we're going to have to hang out and eat inside it looks like. Sucks. 
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In all seriousness it's been pretty dry, my lawn is brown already. It's a bit cool but doesn't look like it will rain. Been pretty great weather all week in Seattle. 

 
The General said:
In all seriousness it's been pretty dry, my lawn is brown already. It's a bit cool but doesn't look like it will rain. Been pretty great weather all week in Seattle. 
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Sun came out and it was pleasant, I'll have to take back most of my complaining. Grass too wet to play volleyball though. Man you must have no trees, our lawn hasn't dried out at all. 

 
Washington doesn't have a state income tax like Texas, so that's pretty sweet. 

But there's no Whataburger.. :(

 
The few people I know from Seattle loved it. I was told that you could go skiing in the mountains and be lying out on a beach in the same day. 

 
Have a one-way ticket to Seattle for Saturday. Spent less than 24 hours there for the interview process so didn't see much. I'll have a couple months in temp housing to figure out where I'm going to live or where I can afford to live. Can't wait.

 
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