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What current WR can break this record ? (1 Viewer)

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It was done by Marvin Harrison in 2002, these numbers are just sick. I started playing Fantasy Football around 2003 so I missed out on this amazing feat.

143 Receptions :goodposting:

1722 Yards :boxing:

11 TD's

So which current WR has the ability or opportunity to come close or even maybe break this record?

My two are Wes Walker and Eddie Royal, who you got?

Obviously PPR this is everyones wet dream

 
Fitz has far and away the best chance, especially after Anquan skips town.

Edit: the real marvel from that season wasn't the 143 catches, it was the 204 targets. The second highest target total over the past 7 years was 186. In order to really challenge that catches record, a player will need a huge target total, and a huge catch%. A couple of players have shown themselves capable of getting huge target totals- for instance, Brandon Marshall is the only receiver with back-to-back 170+ target seasons over that span- but can't get their catch% high enough to make a reasonable assault (Harrison had a 70.1% catch% in his best season. Marshall's career best is 60.0%). Other players can get the catch%- for instance, Welker has had 75% and 77% catch rates over the last two years- but can't get the raw target numbers (Welker's career high is 150 targets). Of players still in their prime, I think only Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald have the hands and concentration to put up a high enough catch% while still possessing the physical skills to dominate CBs and demand a high enough number of targets. I like Fitz over Andre because he's got a slight edge in both the target and catch% department. I really don't think anyone in the league right now is going to challenge that record, though. It'll probably stand until we see major offensive changes to the game (for instance, if someone creates an offense designed around the shovel pass, I could see an RB putting up 200 receptions at 5-6 yards per reception).

 
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if stafford is the real deal I could see Calvin Johnson, IF Schaub stayed healthy maybe Andre Johnson, outside of that could not see anyone currently coming close...fitz has talent but shares the load w/boldin.

 
I'd like to believe Steve Smith could this year. Panthers don't have much else in the passing game, and I'm sure teams will stack the box with those stud RBs. More room for Smitty to go hog wild!

 
Break? I dunno.

That was a perfect storm in 2002.

Great QB in his prime

Great WR in his prime

Terrible running game

Below average complementary WRs

Outside of '95, no WR has come with 20 receptions of that season. Who can come close? If Brandon Marshall goes to the right home, he might be able to do it. If Schaub stays healthy and the running game falters, Johnson could come close one year.

 
I'd like to believe Steve Smith could this year. Panthers don't have much else in the passing game, and I'm sure teams will stack the box with those stud RBs. More room for Smitty to go hog wild!
Funny you should mention that, I see similar situation possibly happening too. I hope were right Peyton In 2002 did not have a lot of options aside from Harrison. It was Reggie Wayne's second year and Edgerrin James had a really bad year rushing wise for whatever reason.Edge James had 61and Reggie Wayne with 49.Steve Smith, Deangelo Williams and who else, not a bad guess.
 
Fitz has far and away the best chance, especially after Anquan skips town.Edit: the real marvel from that season wasn't the 143 catches, it was the 204 targets. The second highest target total over the past 7 years was 186. In order to really challenge that catches record, a player will need a huge target total, and a huge catch%. A couple of players have shown themselves capable of getting huge target totals- for instance, Brandon Marshall is the only receiver with back-to-back 170+ target seasons over that span- but can't get their catch% high enough to make a reasonable assault (Harrison had a 70.1% catch% in his best season. Marshall's career best is 60.0%). Other players can get the catch%- for instance, Welker has had 75% and 77% catch rates over the last two years- but can't get the raw target numbers (Welker's career high is 150 targets). Of players still in their prime, I think only Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald have the hands and concentration to put up a high enough catch% while still possessing the physical skills to dominate CBs and demand a high enough number of targets. I like Fitz over Andre because he's got a slight edge in both the target and catch% department. I really don't think anyone in the league right now is going to challenge that record, though. It'll probably stand until we see major offensive changes to the game (for instance, if someone creates an offense designed around the shovel pass, I could see an RB putting up 200 receptions at 5-6 yards per reception).
:useless: IMO, a great QB is every bit as important as the WR's skills.That said, I see some possibilities, in rough order of likelihood...AJ - a healthy Schaub, Slaton is a very good RB but they will have to throw a lotCalvin - if Stafford developsColston - with Brees, possibleFitz - but when Boldin leaves (assuming he does), Warner won't have long left and his skills will diminishJennings - although Nelson/Jones will make distribution easierRoddy White - but he isn't a possession type
 
I'd like to believe Steve Smith could this year. Panthers don't have much else in the passing game, and I'm sure teams will stack the box with those stud RBs. More room for Smitty to go hog wild!
Funny you should mention that, I see similar situation possibly happening too. I hope were right Peyton In 2002 did not have a lot of options aside from Harrison. It was Reggie Wayne's second year and Edgerrin James had a really bad year rushing wise for whatever reason.

Edge James had 61and Reggie Wayne with 49.

Steve Smith, Deangelo Williams and who else, not a bad guess.
The key word in that sentence is not options, but Peyton. There is no way that Smitty is getting close to Harrison's record with Delhomme throwing him the ball. Nevermind the Panthers number of rushes.I did like your first call with Royal and Welker, though.

I agree with the person that said they don't see the record being broken in awhile. Most of the better QBs simply spread the ball around more these days for one receiver to get that many targets. I could see it happen to Fitz if Boldin leaves town, but who will be throwing him the ball then? Leinart?

 
I also think it's more likely a RB does it. Reggie Bush could do it if he could stay healthy. Maybe McFadden?

 
So Far this is the list

Larry Fitz

Calvin J

Steve Smith

Marshall looks like hes getting most love even though hes not even really playing

AJ

Colston

Jennings

Roddy White

Bowe

Bush

McFadden

Wes Walker

Royal

 
Fitz has far and away the best chance, especially after Anquan skips town.Edit: the real marvel from that season wasn't the 143 catches, it was the 204 targets. The second highest target total over the past 7 years was 186. In order to really challenge that catches record, a player will need a huge target total, and a huge catch%. A couple of players have shown themselves capable of getting huge target totals- for instance, Brandon Marshall is the only receiver with back-to-back 170+ target seasons over that span- but can't get their catch% high enough to make a reasonable assault (Harrison had a 70.1% catch% in his best season. Marshall's career best is 60.0%). Other players can get the catch%- for instance, Welker has had 75% and 77% catch rates over the last two years- but can't get the raw target numbers (Welker's career high is 150 targets). Of players still in their prime, I think only Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald have the hands and concentration to put up a high enough catch% while still possessing the physical skills to dominate CBs and demand a high enough number of targets. I like Fitz over Andre because he's got a slight edge in both the target and catch% department. I really don't think anyone in the league right now is going to challenge that record, though. It'll probably stand until we see major offensive changes to the game (for instance, if someone creates an offense designed around the shovel pass, I could see an RB putting up 200 receptions at 5-6 yards per reception).
All true, but he has absolutely no chance with Q in town. I'd say, AJ or Welker for this season. Steve Smith is the only other guy I could see getting enough opportunity.
 
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It was done by Marvin Harrison in 2002, these numbers are just sick. I started playing Fantasy Football around 2003 so I missed out on this amazing feat. 143 Receptions :wall: 1722 Yards :bag: 11 TD'sSo which current WR has the ability or opportunity to come close or even maybe break this record?My two are Wes Walker and Eddie Royal, who you got?Obviously PPR this is everyones wet dream
Eddie Royal will need a different QB to accomplish this. Remember M. Harrison had Peyton Manning,
 
JaMarcus Russell to Darrius Heyward-Bey.

Arm strength and speed > decision making and skill.

Oh wait, I'm not Al Davis. Then I'll go with Ryan/White in about 3 years.

 
It was done by Marvin Harrison in 2002, these numbers are just sick. I started playing Fantasy Football around 2003 so I missed out on this amazing feat. 143 Receptions :excited: 1722 Yards :excited: 11 TD'sSo which current WR has the ability or opportunity to come close or even maybe break this record?My two are Wes Walker and Eddie Royal, who you got?Obviously PPR this is everyones wet dream
Eddie Royal will need a different QB to accomplish this. Remember M. Harrison had Peyton Manning,
I don't envision Royal having Orton his entire career throwing to him, that is why i'm saying this fyi, but i agree with your statement.
 
I also think it's more likely a RB does it. Reggie Bush could do it if he could stay healthy. Maybe McFadden?
What is the record for most receptions by a RB? Probably has to be up there i know MJD and Forte were pretty high last year.
Gotta be either Craig or Faulk.
Steven jackson has 90+. That's much more than Forte/MJD ever did in one year.I am not sure about Craig/Faulk, but SJax is the highest I know right off the top of my head for a fact.My pick is Andre Johnson. If Slaton can get injured, and all the games are close but they still need to throw...then it's possible.
 
I also think it's more likely a RB does it. Reggie Bush could do it if he could stay healthy. Maybe McFadden?
What is the record for most receptions by a RB? Probably has to be up there i know MJD and Forte were pretty high last year.
Gotta be either Craig or Faulk.
Larry Centers broke 100 one year.And MJD and Forte had just over 60 last year. I'm not sure I'd define that as "pretty high."
 
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I also think it's more likely a RB does it. Reggie Bush could do it if he could stay healthy. Maybe McFadden?
What is the record for most receptions by a RB? Probably has to be up there i know MJD and Forte were pretty high last year.
Gotta be either Craig or Faulk.
Steven jackson has 90+. That's much more than Forte/MJD ever did in one year.I am not sure about Craig/Faulk, but SJax is the highest I know right off the top of my head for a fact.My pick is Andre Johnson. If Slaton can get injured, and all the games are close but they still need to throw...then it's possible.
Westbrook had 90 a couple years ago as well.
 
I also think it's more likely a RB does it. Reggie Bush could do it if he could stay healthy. Maybe McFadden?
What is the record for most receptions by a RB? Probably has to be up there i know MJD and Forte were pretty high last year.
Gotta be either Craig or Faulk.
Larry Centers broke 100 one year.And MJD and Forte had just over 60 last year. I'm not sure I'd define that as "pretty high."
Well recently speaking that is high for me, but Larry centers obviously blows this away, however he wasn't even close to the record even though its really impressive from a FB1995 Arizona Cardinal 101 962 9.5
 
I also think it's more likely a RB does it. Reggie Bush could do it if he could stay healthy. Maybe McFadden?
What is the record for most receptions by a RB? Probably has to be up there i know MJD and Forte were pretty high last year.
Gotta be either Craig or Faulk.
Larry Centers broke 100 one year.And MJD and Forte had just over 60 last year. I'm not sure I'd define that as "pretty high."
Well recently speaking that is high for me, but Larry centers obviously blows this away, however he wasn't even close to the record even though its really impressive from a FB1995 Arizona Cardinal 101 962 9.5
The wild thing is that he was still the #23 RB that year. I don't think he was drafted in our league and he didn't start more than a game or two that year.And on the 'pretty high' thing, I wasn't trying to be a jerk. People just seem to overrate recent events. For example, Westbrook & Bush each caught more passes in 2007 than either MJD or Forte in 2008. Jackson, Bush & Westbrook caught more passes in 2006 than either MJD or Forte in 2008.
 
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A lot of people are throwing out a lot of names that I don't think have the slightest prayer at the record. Calvin Johnson's average route is too deep to support a 70+% catch rate. Greg Jennings will be fighting for catches with Donald Driver, James Jones, *AND* Jordy Nelson. Royal and Welker don't have the physical skills to be dominant enough to demand 200+ targets. Ditto that for Colston and White (great receivers, but not the kind of guys who will ever see 180+ targets). I'd say the chances of any of these guys ever getting the record are essentially 0%.Really, any single WR's chances of ever touching the record are probably 5% at best- that is a SERIOUS total, far and away the best in league history for a reason. Still, the only WRs with even that good of a chance are:Larry Fitz- Pros: best WR in the league. Already a proven target hog with a great career catch%. Played at an absurdly high level in the playoffs last year- possibly a harbinger of things to come.Cons: QB play. For another year or two, he's sharing with Boldin, too (although 'Quan is as good as gone first chance he gets).Anquan Boldin-Pros: I believe he's got the highest catches/game mark in NFL history, so he's got to be doing something right. Proved he could handle being the "target monster" his rookie season when he was his team's only threat. Already has a 70+% catch rate season under his belt (71% last season).Cons: Competing with Fitz for the time being. No clue where he's going to end up when he leaves Arizona. An elite talent, but not quite an uber-elite talent like Moss, Fitz, or AJ.Randy Moss-Pros: He's already got a 180+ target season under his belt, and he can handle being the only target so much that he's had a ratio named after him. Playing in an extremely prolific passing offense.Cons: Welker's stealing looks (although if Welker goes down, all bets are off). He's nearing the end of his prime, so he has very few shots left.Andre Johnson-Pros: He's been the only target for his entire career, so nothing new there. Put up really elite numbers with Schaub under center. Already managed a 70% catch rate season in '07, and followed up with 67% in '08.Cons: Not much, actually. No real competition for targets, a good enough QB to post a 70% catch rate with. In fact, looking into it, I like Andre Johnson over Fitz as the guy with the best shot to get the record.Brandon Marshall-Pros: The biggest target hog in the game today.Cons: Attitude. Health. Head. Hands. Situation. Attitude. Hands. Head. Attitude.I don't see any RBs in the game today pushing for the record without a major offensive shift like the one I mentioned earlier. Bush would have the best chance, but I'd like his odds a heckuvalot better if not for his knees. I don't see any WR other than those 5 having a prayer, either.

I also think it's more likely a RB does it. Reggie Bush could do it if he could stay healthy. Maybe McFadden?
What is the record for most receptions by a RB? Probably has to be up there i know MJD and Forte were pretty high last year.
Gotta be either Craig or Faulk.
Nope. Tomlinson had 100 in... 2002? 2003? Early this decade when Brees was a bust and the Chargers were terrible.
 
Reggie Wayne - same QB/same offense- Now no Harrison to steal targets- Questionable running game- Defense still average at best- Only broken 100 catches once?

He is listed as the left-side starter, but on any given play Wayne might be split wide right, in the left slot or in the right slot. He also might be grouped in a "bunch" with Anthony Gonzalez and either Pierre Garcon or rookie Austin Collie.One of the main reasons Wayne works out of the slot is to make it more difficult for defenses to double-team him.In the slot, Manning said, "he's got more areas of the field he can get to. We're always trying to move him around and get him in the situations he can be the most effective."
 
Averaging 9 catches a game over a full 16 game season? Nah, don't see it happening anytime soon.

 
Reggie Wayne - same QB/same offense- Now no Harrison to steal targets- Questionable running game- Defense still average at best- Only broken 100 catches once?

He is listed as the left-side starter, but on any given play Wayne might be split wide right, in the left slot or in the right slot. He also might be grouped in a "bunch" with Anthony Gonzalez and either Pierre Garcon or rookie Austin Collie.One of the main reasons Wayne works out of the slot is to make it more difficult for defenses to double-team him.In the slot, Manning said, "he's got more areas of the field he can get to. We're always trying to move him around and get him in the situations he can be the most effective."
Career high in targets is 156. Second best season was 137. Anthony Gonzalez is a legit WR across the field. Not a dominant physical talent who can still demand the ball when everyone in the stadium knows it's going his way. Basically, no shot in hell.
 
Was Harrison a 'dominant physical talent'? Reggie has shown he could perform when everyone knew the ball was headed his way when he was starting opposite Craphonso Thorpe.

He just needs to convince Peyton to target him 200+ times and he's gold.

 
A lot of people are throwing out a lot of names that I don't think have the slightest prayer at the record. Calvin Johnson's average route is too deep to support a 70+% catch rate. Greg Jennings will be fighting for catches with Donald Driver, James Jones, *AND* Jordy Nelson. Royal and Welker don't have the physical skills to be dominant enough to demand 200+ targets. Ditto that for Colston and White (great receivers, but not the kind of guys who will ever see 180+ targets). I'd say the chances of any of these guys ever getting the record are essentially 0%.Really, any single WR's chances of ever touching the record are probably 5% at best- that is a SERIOUS total, far and away the best in league history for a reason. Still, the only WRs with even that good of a chance are:Larry Fitz- Pros: best WR in the league. Already a proven target hog with a great career catch%. Played at an absurdly high level in the playoffs last year- possibly a harbinger of things to come.Cons: QB play. For another year or two, he's sharing with Boldin, too (although 'Quan is as good as gone first chance he gets).Anquan Boldin-Pros: I believe he's got the highest catches/game mark in NFL history, so he's got to be doing something right. Proved he could handle being the "target monster" his rookie season when he was his team's only threat. Already has a 70+% catch rate season under his belt (71% last season).Cons: Competing with Fitz for the time being. No clue where he's going to end up when he leaves Arizona. An elite talent, but not quite an uber-elite talent like Moss, Fitz, or AJ.Randy Moss-Pros: He's already got a 180+ target season under his belt, and he can handle being the only target so much that he's had a ratio named after him. Playing in an extremely prolific passing offense.Cons: Welker's stealing looks (although if Welker goes down, all bets are off). He's nearing the end of his prime, so he has very few shots left.Andre Johnson-Pros: He's been the only target for his entire career, so nothing new there. Put up really elite numbers with Schaub under center. Already managed a 70% catch rate season in '07, and followed up with 67% in '08.Cons: Not much, actually. No real competition for targets, a good enough QB to post a 70% catch rate with. In fact, looking into it, I like Andre Johnson over Fitz as the guy with the best shot to get the record.Brandon Marshall-Pros: The biggest target hog in the game today.Cons: Attitude. Health. Head. Hands. Situation. Attitude. Hands. Head. Attitude.I don't see any RBs in the game today pushing for the record without a major offensive shift like the one I mentioned earlier. Bush would have the best chance, but I'd like his odds a heckuvalot better if not for his knees. I don't see any WR other than those 5 having a prayer, either.

I also think it's more likely a RB does it. Reggie Bush could do it if he could stay healthy. Maybe McFadden?
What is the record for most receptions by a RB? Probably has to be up there i know MJD and Forte were pretty high last year.
Gotta be either Craig or Faulk.
Nope. Tomlinson had 100 in... 2002? 2003? Early this decade when Brees was a bust and the Chargers were terrible.
As noted above, Larry Centers had 101 in 1995.
 
SSOG said:
Truman said:
Reggie Wayne - same QB/same offense- Now no Harrison to steal targets- Questionable running game- Defense still average at best- Only broken 100 catches once?

He is listed as the left-side starter, but on any given play Wayne might be split wide right, in the left slot or in the right slot. He also might be grouped in a "bunch" with Anthony Gonzalez and either Pierre Garcon or rookie Austin Collie.One of the main reasons Wayne works out of the slot is to make it more difficult for defenses to double-team him.In the slot, Manning said, "he's got more areas of the field he can get to. We're always trying to move him around and get him in the situations he can be the most effective."
Career high in targets is 156. Second best season was 137. Anthony Gonzalez is a legit WR across the field. Not a dominant physical talent who can still demand the ball when everyone in the stadium knows it's going his way. Basically, no shot in hell.
Dallas Clark is probably the biggest reason Wayne won't see enough targets IMO....
 
SSOG said:
Truman said:
Reggie Wayne - same QB/same offense- Now no Harrison to steal targets- Questionable running game- Defense still average at best- Only broken 100 catches once?

He is listed as the left-side starter, but on any given play Wayne might be split wide right, in the left slot or in the right slot. He also might be grouped in a "bunch" with Anthony Gonzalez and either Pierre Garcon or rookie Austin Collie.One of the main reasons Wayne works out of the slot is to make it more difficult for defenses to double-team him.In the slot, Manning said, "he's got more areas of the field he can get to. We're always trying to move him around and get him in the situations he can be the most effective."
Career high in targets is 156. Second best season was 137. Anthony Gonzalez is a legit WR across the field. Not a dominant physical talent who can still demand the ball when everyone in the stadium knows it's going his way. Basically, no shot in hell.
Wayne has no chance. Peyton will spread it around between Wayne, Clark, Gonzalez, the RBs and WR3 (Collie, Garcon, backup TE Tamme - depending on formation). He won't force it to Wayne as he had to Marvin in the past.
 
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if stafford is the real deal I could see Calvin Johnson, IF Schaub stayed healthy maybe Andre Johnson, outside of that could not see anyone currently coming close...fitz has talent but shares the load w/boldin.
:confused: I agree. He has the raw ability. He just needs someone who can throw him the ball.
 
Not even one mention for E. Royal yet. I don't think anyone will ever break this record, but Royal caught 91 passes as a rookie and is going to see a lot of targets going forward. He is also a legit talent and has a coach that will move him around a lot and get him the ball ala Welker.

 
Calvin Johnson, if the Lions get a decent QB.That's it.
Calvin had a 52% catch rate last season. That ain't gonna cut it. You can blame it on his QBs if you want... but I seem to recall people blaming Chambers' catch% on HIS QBs, too, once upon a time (while ignoring the fact that Welker had a radically higher catch% with the same QBs). I'd say the 52% is as indicative of his usage patterns as it is of his QB. Calvin Johnson had over 17 yards per reception last year. Marvin Harrison has 12 yards per reception when he went for 143 (it essentially wound up being the only time during his prime when he was below 13 yards per reception). That's not a fluke- in order to put up a 70+% catch%, you need to run a lot more short routes than Calvin is going to be running in his career.
Not even one mention for E. Royal yet. I don't think anyone will ever break this record, but Royal caught 91 passes as a rookie and is going to see a lot of targets going forward. He is also a legit talent and has a coach that will move him around a lot and get him the ball ala Welker.
You're actually the seventh poster to name Royal. He's got no shot in hell. There's no way Royal ever gets 200+ targets. Ditto that for Welker.
 
Not even one mention for E. Royal yet. I don't think anyone will ever break this record, but Royal caught 91 passes as a rookie and is going to see a lot of targets going forward. He is also a legit talent and has a coach that will move him around a lot and get him the ball ala Welker.
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AJ and Marshall were my first 2 thoughts. AJ has the best shot, IMO.

Another guy that may have it in the future is Bowe. In his 1st 2 yrs, he's been a target hog himself and the departure of Gonzo only helps.

 

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