Jene Bramel
Footballguy
There is no offseason for an IDP owner.
What lessons did you learn this year that will help you in 2008?
What lessons did you learn this year that will help you in 2008?
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What Did You Learn in 2007? (1 Viewer)
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Zoomanji
Footballguy
me tooAt least I took Beason after I passed on Willis. 
redman
Footballguy
This is more reinforcement of prior lessons than brand new knowledge, but draft picks spent on rookie DT's/NT's and CB's tend to be wasted given that there are a lot of different top players at those positions each year, and you can pick up good waiver wire players within the first month of each season if you're paying attention.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I formed a 53 man dynasty roster around a sort of minimum IDP theory. The idea was to load up at RB and WR for potential breakout players, while stocking just enough IDP to field a solid defense through the season. Italics because this D didn't make it through the season (#1 seed flamed out in round one and I expected it) mostly due to disappointing play not injury. My injury woes were typical, but the lesson I pulled from this is that IDP depth is far more important than hanging onto Maurice Stovall. Then most of you probably knew this already.
In redraft, I think I need to go back to waiting longer than most to build my defense. While having a defense stocked with highly rated players can be a huge advantage, it still comes down to picking the right players at whatever point in the draft you decide to go IDP.
The new plan is more tequila and less analysis. I'll report back next year.
In redraft, I think I need to go back to waiting longer than most to build my defense. While having a defense stocked with highly rated players can be a huge advantage, it still comes down to picking the right players at whatever point in the draft you decide to go IDP.
The new plan is more tequila and less analysis. I'll report back next year.
I've learned that DB's are kind of the equivalent of K's in that good ones always seem to emerge out of nowhere and therefore don't overpay for one.
I also learned that if a starting lb goes down pick up his backup because whether or not I've ever heard of him before he will be productive(that's assuming the starter was productive in that defensive scheme)
I also learned that if a starting lb goes down pick up his backup because whether or not I've ever heard of him before he will be productive(that's assuming the starter was productive in that defensive scheme)
Rovers
Footballguy
Yup, add me to the Willis in a 3-4 is better than most MLB's in a 4-3 list. Harris was so much better than Vilma at ILB, it is almost shocking.
I learned that I hate crazy sack scoring points systems with bonuses even more than I did last year. Way too unpredictable, way too much dumb luck involved (even though I won that stupid league).
I learned you just can't have enough good LB's in a start 3 format. (I'd say the same thing about WR's, too)
I would never take a DB in the rookie draft in the first or second round. I learned I shouldn't take one in the thrid or fourth either.
I learned that I hate crazy sack scoring points systems with bonuses even more than I did last year. Way too unpredictable, way too much dumb luck involved (even though I won that stupid league).
I learned you just can't have enough good LB's in a start 3 format. (I'd say the same thing about WR's, too)
I would never take a DB in the rookie draft in the first or second round. I learned I shouldn't take one in the thrid or fourth either.
FUBAR
Footballguy
1. NEVER draft a CB or DT, just grab one off waivers
2. IDPs are not unimportant, but they are inconsistent
3. Scheme matters
4. Once you're happy with the talent and the scheme, don't be discouraged by a couple bad weeks
5. But don't wait too long either
6. 4 and 5 contradict, but all this means is keep paying attention to how the IDP is used, use your best judgment and hope for the best
2. IDPs are not unimportant, but they are inconsistent
3. Scheme matters
4. Once you're happy with the talent and the scheme, don't be discouraged by a couple bad weeks
5. But don't wait too long either
6. 4 and 5 contradict, but all this means is keep paying attention to how the IDP is used, use your best judgment and hope for the best
FUBAR
Footballguy
You make an interesting point here. From my experience, I find there's a few important differences between redraft and dynasty leagues, but I'm not sure where I stand on IDPs and how they differ between the two. For example, stud QBs are much more valable in a dynasty, while borderline RBs are much less so. Stud IDPs are probably more valuable in dynasty, but the ##3's are much less so, just grab some risks and use the WW. I like your minimal IDP theory.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Don't overspend for an IDP in a shallow league.
In a league like mine (we start 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB) there is no need to carry reserve IDPs and there will be top-10 ranked guys at each position available every week on the waiver wire.
In a league like mine (we start 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB) there is no need to carry reserve IDPs and there will be top-10 ranked guys at each position available every week on the waiver wire.
E-A-G-L-E-S
Footballguy
Too add on to thisIn keeper leagues, do not keep a DB. Too inconsistent year to year and new ones always emerge. Use the keepers on DL/LB.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I learned that D-linemen are very difficult to predict. In a tackle heavy system, being an every down player and the run/pass ratio of opponents are good indicators of success, but even that can leave you scratching your head with a one or two tackle game and no big plays.
I learned that I had to build my IDP's with a couple of stellar LB's and then collect a large group of DL & DB's and try to play matchups. I was much better off at DB with this, but I figured out the DL by the end of the season.
I learned that I had to build my IDP's with a couple of stellar LB's and then collect a large group of DL & DB's and try to play matchups. I was much better off at DB with this, but I figured out the DL by the end of the season.
J Andersson
Footballguy
More or less this season emphasized what I was already picking up on during 2007:
1. LBs are the constant of FF play and DBs and DLs shouldn't be a priority.
2. CBs are getting closer to the value of safeties for every year
I also think 2007 was the oddest year for IDP scoring since I've been a regular participants in these types of leagues - I think the reason (other than it being a freak year) for that largely can be attributed to the opposing offensive schemes being much less conservative than in the past. Thus they become less predictable. Very few teams run the ball more than they pass it nowadays. In turn, that seems to mean IDP player stats much more hinges on what the opposition tries to do and whether the opposing teams play with a lead or from behind. That has of course, to some extent, always been the case but I do think that especially holds true for this year and beyond more than ever. Furthermore, I also think offensive linemen from college very often come from pass friendly or QB option systems and thus aren't as well schooled when it comes to run-blocking to begin with. There just doesn't seem to be any dominant run-blocking o-lines in the NFL anymore (whereas one could crown the Pats line as a superior pass-blocking line). It seems the NFL coaches do no longer put an emphasis on the skills of run blocking. This in turn leads to few LBs or SS getting the chance to play a lot versus the run. Anyone agree?
1. LBs are the constant of FF play and DBs and DLs shouldn't be a priority.
2. CBs are getting closer to the value of safeties for every year
I also think 2007 was the oddest year for IDP scoring since I've been a regular participants in these types of leagues - I think the reason (other than it being a freak year) for that largely can be attributed to the opposing offensive schemes being much less conservative than in the past. Thus they become less predictable. Very few teams run the ball more than they pass it nowadays. In turn, that seems to mean IDP player stats much more hinges on what the opposition tries to do and whether the opposing teams play with a lead or from behind. That has of course, to some extent, always been the case but I do think that especially holds true for this year and beyond more than ever. Furthermore, I also think offensive linemen from college very often come from pass friendly or QB option systems and thus aren't as well schooled when it comes to run-blocking to begin with. There just doesn't seem to be any dominant run-blocking o-lines in the NFL anymore (whereas one could crown the Pats line as a superior pass-blocking line). It seems the NFL coaches do no longer put an emphasis on the skills of run blocking. This in turn leads to few LBs or SS getting the chance to play a lot versus the run. Anyone agree?
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The Duff Man
Footballguy
IDP is a much funner way to play fantasy football.
Rozelle
Moderator
You got that right! The more of my league owners who reads this forum and are FBG subscribers, the tougher it gets to draft and aquire FA IDP's
