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What Do You Believe Happens To You After You Die? (29/30) (1 Viewer)

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"I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.“ - Mark Twain


https://youtu.be/pmcrG7ZZKUc?t=26

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Direct Headline: What happens to our bodies after we die

By Moheb Costandi May 8, 2015


Self-digestion - Far from being ‘dead’, a rotting corpse is teeming with life. A growing number of scientists view a rotting corpse as the cornerstone of a vast and complex ecosystem, which emerges soon after death and flourishes and evolves as decomposition proceeds. Decomposition begins several minutes after death with a process called autolysis, or self-digestion. Soon after the heart stops beating, cells become deprived of oxygen, and their acidity increases as the toxic by-products of chemical reactions begin to accumulate inside them. Enzymes start to digest cell membranes and then leak out as the cells break down. This usually begins in the liver, which is rich in enzymes, and in the brain, which has high water content. Eventually, though, all other tissues and organs begin to break down in this way. Damaged blood cells begin to spill out of broken vessels and, aided by gravity, settle in the capillaries and small veins, discolouring the skin.....

... Body temperature also begins to drop, until it has acclimatised to its surroundings. Then, rigor mortis – “the stiffness of death” – sets in, starting in the eyelids, jaw and neck muscles, before working its way into the trunk and then the limbs. In life, muscle cells contract and relax due to the actions of two filamentous proteins (actin and myosin), which slide along each other. After death, the cells are depleted of their energy source and the protein filaments become locked in place. This causes the muscles to become rigid and locks the joints....During these early stages, the cadaveric ecosystem consists mostly of the bacteria that live in and on the living human body. Our bodies host huge numbers of bacteria; every one of the body’s surfaces and corners provides a habitat for a specialised microbial community. By far the largest of these communities resides in the gut, which is home to trillions of bacteria of hundreds or perhaps thousands of different species.....The gut microbiome is one of the hottest research topics in biology; it’s been linked to roles in human health and a plethora of conditions and diseases, from autism and depression to irritable bowel syndrome and obesity. But we still know little about these microbial passengers while we are alive. We know even less about what happens to them when we die.....

... Most internal organs are devoid of microbes when we are alive. Soon after death, however, the immune system stops working, leaving them to spread throughout the body freely. This usually begins in the gut, at the junction between the small and large intestines. Left unchecked, our gut bacteria begin to digest the intestines – and then the surrounding tissues – from the inside out, using the chemical cocktail that leaks out of damaged cells as a food source. Then they invade the capillaries of the digestive system and lymph nodes, spreading first to the liver and spleen, then into the heart and brain.... showed that the bacteria reached the liver about 20 hours after death and that it took them at least 58 hours to spread to all the organs from which samples were taken......Putrefaction is associated with a marked shift from aerobic bacterial species, which require oxygen to grow, to anaerobic ones, which do not. These then feed on the body’s tissues, fermenting the sugars in them to produce gaseous by-products such as methane, hydrogen sulphide and ammonia, which accumulate within the body, inflating (or ‘bloating’) the abdomen and sometimes other body parts......

.....As the gas pressure continues to build up inside the body, it causes blisters to appear all over the skin surface. This is followed by loosening, and then ‘slippage’, of large sheets of skin, which remain barely attached to the deteriorating frame underneath. Eventually, the gases and liquefied tissues purge from the body, usually leaking from the anus and other orifices and frequently also leaking from ripped skin in other parts of the body. Sometimes, the pressure is so great that the abdomen bursts open....As an entomologist, Bucheli is mainly interested in the insects that colonise cadavers. She regards a cadaver as a specialised habitat for various necrophagous (or ‘dead-eating’) insect species, some of which see out their entire life cycle in, on and around the body....When a decomposing body starts to purge, it becomes fully exposed to its surroundings. At this stage, the cadaveric ecosystem really comes into its own: a ‘hub’ for microbes, insects and scavengers.....

.....Two species closely linked with decomposition are blowflies and flesh flies (and their larvae). Cadavers give off a foul, sickly-sweet odour, made up of a complex cocktail of volatile compounds which changes as decomposition progresses. Blowflies detect the smell using specialised receptors on their antennae, then land on the cadaver and lay their eggs in orifices and open wounds....Each fly deposits around 250 eggs that hatch within 24 hours, giving rise to small first-stage maggots. These feed on the rotting flesh and then moult into larger maggots, which feed for several hours before moulting again. After feeding some more, these yet larger, and now fattened, maggots wriggle away from the body. They then pupate and transform into adult flies, and the cycle repeats until there’s nothing left for them to feed on....Under the right conditions, an actively decaying body will have large numbers of stage-three maggots feeding on it. This ‘maggot mass’ generates a lot of heat, raising the inside temperature by more than 10C (18F). Like penguins huddling in the South Pole, individual maggots within the mass are constantly on the move. But whereas penguins huddle to keep warm, maggots in the mass move around to stay cool.....

....The presence of flies attracts predators such as skin beetles, mites, ants, wasps and spiders, which then feed on the flies’ eggs and larvae. Vultures and other scavengers, as well as other large meat-eating animals, may also descend upon the body....Eventually, the whole process creates a ‘cadaver decomposition island’, a highly concentrated area of organically rich soil. As well as releasing nutrients into the wider ecosystem, this attracts other organic materials, such as dead insects and faecal matter from larger animals....According to one estimate, an average human body consists of 50–75% water, and every kilogram of dry body mass eventually releases 32g of nitrogen, 10g of phosphorous, 4g of potassium and 1g of magnesium into the soil..... Ultimately, though, decomposition is beneficial for the surrounding ecosystem....



https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150508-what-happens-after-we-die




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Here is another topic that is designed to increase discussion and participation in the FFA. I believe this topic has mostly limited pathways of delving into real world public policy issues, public administration conflict and generally anything politically related. However, it may delve into some light religious discussion. Which I believe can be talked about in a general sense without becoming political.

Many people here are getting older and have to start planning their situations / logistics / estates for the end. Some here still have elderly parents alive and have to consider that mortality situation from a practical perspective. For many here, there are fewer years ahead of them than worn road behind them. It's something everyone here has to consider sooner rather than later.


What Do You Believe Happens To You After You Die?


I'll leave this here for others to discuss. (29/30)
 
While I’d like to believe there is something more that we are aware of (a conscious like state) after death, if pressed to answer I think it’s nothing. Just blackness, like a dreamless night
 
Yeah, I just think the lights go out and that's that.

I was raised catholic in a somewhat serious manner(nothing crazy. But I went to church most weeks, got all the sacraments, went to CCD every week, etc.) until I was 12 or 13 years old (parents got divorced at that point and we kinda stopped going to church based on the church's thoughts on that) so the concept of heaven/some sort of afterlife was part of my childhood. But now as an adult, I just dont see it at all. Just WAY too much needless suffering and evil in the world for me to buy into the idea of some sort of omnipotent being watching over the world. And because of that, the idea of "heaven" (regardless of whatever specifics your particular religion believes in) just makes no sense to me.

Doesn't mean I dont still try and be a good person. But I dont see some great payoff happening in the end. I think I'll just be worm food, and while that's maybe a little depressing, I've accepted it.
 
With the way AI is taking off I figure by the time I die, they can take my brain and upload it as the new version of chatgpt or whatever and I spend all of eternity generating random Seinfeld episodes.
 
With the way AI is taking off I figure by the time I die, they can take my brain and upload it as the new version of chatgpt or whatever and I spend all of eternity generating random Seinfeld episodes.

Yeah, like the Black Mirror episode, San Junipero. That type of technology doesn’t seem that far fetched.
 
I highly recommend a book called "Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers" by Mary Roach. She's a great writer and makes this macabre topic really funny at times. She's a scientist at heart and has written a number of other books worth checking out.
 
I believe it goes dark. And that's it. I also believe we don't actually know we died. Because, well, we are dead. It's instant and forever and we don't have a moment of dread, or a feeling of sadness, loss, or anything else. Sure that happens while we are dying, but when the end comes, it's over. It's a scary thought, but also a comforting one. We will never know we died. It will just be over.
 
The same thing that happens to the other billions of species that have come and gone from this planet. Food for worms. It is, respectfully, beyond arrogant to believe otherwise.
What is beyond arrogant is to make a categorical statement about something inherently unknowable until actually experienced, and then summarily dismissing the beliefs of others.

Respectfully.
 
The same thing that happens to the other billions of species that have come and gone from this planet. Food for worms. It is, respectfully, beyond arrogant to believe otherwise.
There is nothing respectful about your last sentence. You could have offered your opinion and left out the last sentence. Respectfully, you are beyond ignorant and callous.
 
With the way AI is taking off I figure by the time I die, they can take my brain and upload it as the new version of chatgpt or whatever and I spend all of eternity generating random Seinfeld episodes.
A copy of you is not you, though.
I mean, do any of us really have a continuous and immutable self?
Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care...about time?
 
Darkness. No afterlife, no immortal soul, you are done.

Enjoy every day, and thank/curse the chance combination of traits that gave you the self-awareness to be able to ask this question, and to appreciate the miracle of life.
 
With the way AI is taking off I figure by the time I die, they can take my brain and upload it as the new version of chatgpt or whatever and I spend all of eternity generating random Seinfeld episodes.
A copy of you is not you, though.
I mean, do any of us really have a continuous and immutable self?
Does anybody really know what time it is?
yes, Carlo Rovelli
 
The same thing that happens to the other billions of species that have come and gone from this planet. Food for worms. It is, respectfully, beyond arrogant to believe otherwise.
What is beyond arrogant is to make a categorical statement about something inherently unknowable until actually experienced, and then summarily dismissing the beliefs of others.

Respectfully.
I take it you’re agnostic?
 
The same thing that happens to the other billions of species that have come and gone from this planet. Food for worms. It is, respectfully, beyond arrogant to believe otherwise.
What is beyond arrogant is to make a categorical statement about something inherently unknowable until actually experienced, and then summarily dismissing the beliefs of others.

Respectfully.
I take it you’re agnostic?
It would depend on your definition. Not a skeptic or atheist per se, but open to the idea of spiritual afterlife and/or concepts of collective consciousness. Have certain beliefs but constantly evolving based on growth and new knowledge.

"...follow reason as far as it can take you, but then, when you have established as much as you can, frankly and honestly to recognize the limits of your knowledge" -Huxley
 
While I would love the prospect of reuniting with my loved ones in the afterlife, I'm saddened that nonexistence is probably our fate. Sort of a drop of water returning to a mass ocean.
 
I try to be a good person.....and I think it is great that people have something to believe in and to fall back on when needed....if that means you think there is a heaven and your soul or whatever lives on in some great way, that's cool....

but I believe we are just a living animal like the others that roam this earth and we were just able to adapt and advance more then other species...and create things like fire, golf, computers, religion and beliefs (heaven, or whatever), etc....

really if I get hit by a car and die on the spot from my injuries....and the same thing happens to a racoon....the only difference is my species will come and pick me up and do whatever with me after that....while the racoon just keeps getting run over until it decomposes or another animal comes and eats it.....

or is there a racoon version of heaven where they "live" on...who knows
 
Yeah, I guess I never understood why people who believe in heaven, or whatever positive version of afterlife, aren't eager to die. I mean, after a while you've lost far more loved ones than remain, and eternal bliss with them sounds a lot more appealing than running out the clock, doesn't it?

I've taken care of many dying people. While some of them aren't scared of death, and a few are at peace, none embrace it.
 
I think when we are dead we are dead. Nothing more.

And I’ve come to grips with the fact that I’m going to die. I’m 57, and mentally prepared for whatever fate becomes me. Dying means we got to live. I’ll take it.
 
if I get hit by a car and die on the spot from my injuries....and the same thing happens to a racoon....the only difference is my species will come and pick me up and do whatever with me after that....while the racoon just keeps getting run over until it decomposes or another animal comes and eats it.....

or is there a racoon version of heaven where they "live" on...who know
I imagine raccoon heaven as being filled with garbage cans.
 

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