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What FA RB will the Vikings sign now that ap has been suspended? (1 Viewer)

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Who's out there?

Dion Lewis?

BJGE?

Lemichael James?

Anyone else?

No way they go with Asiata and McKinnon for the entire season. Not happening. Asiata can pass pro but is otherwise terrible. McKinnon is lightning in a bottle but has no experience playing Rb and can't pass pro so no matter how appealing his raw talent is he won't see the field enough to be a difference maker.

Someone is getting signed. And you can bet that within a few weeks of signing they will be playing the majority of the snaps.

Law firm sounds about rt to me.

 
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Or a trade is in works
Maybe but I don't see that happening. Ap can still come back this year if his legal issues get resolved and he will probably still be a Viking next season.

How about Andre brown? Is he still kicking around out there? He's more talented than Asiata.

 
You think they are going to sign someone off the street before they see what they have with McKinnon? Lemichael James & Dion Lewis haven't proved anything & have little experience themselves. BJGE can't be any better than Asiata at this point, especially after being away from football for a month.

They will roll with Asiata until he totally s**ts the bed (which I don't think he'll do) or until their season tanks and turn it over to McKinnon. Or it could become a full on RBBC which is also likely. If they bring someone in it will be for depth.

 
Lewis got waived today/yesterday.

Asiata will be the guy & they'll probably give McKinnon more and more meaningful snaps.

 
Both Andre Brown and LaMichael James would have me worried as someone who's stashed Asiate/McKinnon. I have zero worries if they sign Dion Lewis.

 
Pending drug policy, Andre Brown is facing an 8 game suspension. Reduced time unknown (if any) as of yet. It's why he stood no chance in Houston. If it stands, Brown wouldn't be eligible to play until Week 12 at this point.

Only guy really that comes to mind is BGJE only because they were in Cincy at same time. He's not an improvement over Asiata at this point.

 
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Both Andre Brown and LaMichael James would have me worried as someone who's stashed Asiate/McKinnon. I have zero worries if they sign Dion Lewis.
Brown is a journeymen who got thoroughly outplayed by Blue, Grimes and D. Johnson (Blue I can understand) and James is just a COP back IMO. Both have real durability issues as well. I don't know, looking at the FA and there just doesn't seem to be much of anything that looks to be a real upgrade to me. I definitely think it's possible they sign someone but have a hard time believing that they'd garner any real value.

 
Both Andre Brown and LaMichael James would have me worried as someone who's stashed Asiate/McKinnon. I have zero worries if they sign Dion Lewis.
Brown is a journeymen who got thoroughly outplayed by Blue, Grimes and D. Johnson (Blue I can understand) and James is just a COP back IMO. Both have real durability issues as well. I don't know, looking at the FA and there just doesn't seem to be much of anything that looks to be a real upgrade to me. I definitely think it's possible they sign someone but have a hard time believing that they'd garner any real value.
A.Brown has some talent when he's played on the NFL field, I haven't watched him practice but judging off of what I've seen on him in regular season action he's a solid back(wouldn't be the first time an NFL team cut a player capable of producing). James I agree is a COP back, but a RBBC with mediocre backs in a so-so offense is the last thing fantasy owners want to see. Though I suspect that's eventually going to happen anyway since McKinnon is simply a better talent than Asiate, but Asiata is a better blocker and pass catcher.

 
I know that preseason games mean nothing but Joe Banyard has out preformed all those players listed so far.

 
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The List: http://www.dynastynerds.com/getting-know-2015-expiring-contracts-running-backs/

I would say theres one or two (okay maybe several) who catch my eye, including R. Williams (imo nice pre-season ) who I believe is on the Cowboys practice team

But overall Im kinda feeling what Raider posted..

Asiata isnt half-bad, and McKinnon could be as advertised too..

I would agree that depth is sure to be added at some point, But I dunno about "majority of snaps"

p.s. slight bias (McKinnon owner)

 
Or a trade is in works
Maybe but I don't see that happening. Ap can still come back this year if his legal issues get resolved and he will probably still be a Viking next season.

How about Andre brown? Is he still kicking around out there? He's more talented than Asiata.
Says the guy that bragged in another thread how he got over on someone by trading away Asiata for K. Robinson.

What makes you think the team will sign another RB that they could have signed all along if they were so displeased with the backups they had on their roster?

 
Or a trade is in works
Maybe but I don't see that happening. Ap can still come back this year if his legal issues get resolved and he will probably still be a Viking next season.

How about Andre brown? Is he still kicking around out there? He's more talented than Asiata.
Says the guy that bragged in another thread how he got over on someone by trading away Asiata for K. Robinson.

What makes you think the team will sign another RB that they could have signed all along if they were so displeased with the backups they had on their roster?
I was thinking this same thing or same exact type scenario

Its possible (maybe not plausible) that the Vikings have the Star (AP) the workhorse (Asiata) and the Rookie

Now the reason Asiata is rostered is maybe less of a headache dealing w other teams or even the player hollering for more snaps (not to mention actually costs)

IF the Vikings had a healthy AD w no "issues", having the most desirable "backup" or RBBC type RB could just breed negativity. Most fans would say "AP needs the ball every play" Some fans would say "AP doesn't even know how to catch a football" and then you have some idiot (me) yelling lets see what the Rookie can do!

It also must be considered how you treat your "potential" needed player(s). The paper not being worth the ink its written on (LOL I forget the saying)

Lets not even consider how waiving the lesser player, isn't always the case... Its risky business

So anyway, the Coach now has an open spot and a need! Who can they acquire w/o being greedy and/or affecting next Season too much...

p.s. from my last link I would suggest NE could be of interest (insane appetite) for draft picks: S. Ridley (my bad) If hes already resigned

 
They brought Barnyard (spelling?) up from the PT already didn't they? Why go out and sign another player when they have a draft pick as their #2 and another player they are high on as #3. They would have already gone and gotten someone instead of bringing a player up from the PT.

 
They brought Barnyard (spelling?) up from the PT already didn't they? Why go out and sign another player when they have a draft pick as their #2 and another player they are high on as #3. They would have already gone and gotten someone instead of bringing a player up from the PT.
They can still go and get someone else. Banyard was a move that could have just been a 'right now' move.

Asiata, McKinnon and Banyard? I don't think it's a stretch to imagine the Vikes trying to upgrade there.

I certainly think Asiata see most of the carries, and all the goalline work for the foreseeable future.

 
p.s. from my last link I would suggest NE could be of interest (insane appetite) for draft picks: S. Ridley (my bad) If hes already resigned
New England could win a Super Bowl. Minnesota can not. I don't see why either party would be willing to make that move.

 
They brought Barnyard (spelling?) up from the PT already didn't they? Why go out and sign another player when they have a draft pick as their #2 and another player they are high on as #3. They would have already gone and gotten someone instead of bringing a player up from the PT.
They can still go and get someone else. Banyard was a move that could have just been a 'right now' move.

Asiata, McKinnon and Banyard? I don't think it's a stretch to imagine the Vikes trying to upgrade there.

I certainly think Asiata see most of the carries, and all the goalline work for the foreseeable future.
I think it's very possible they sign some one. I don't think it's that realistic that whoever they grab off the scrap heap comes in and surpasses two guys already in the system. I don't think Asiata is anything special at all, and he's certainly not a long term solution, but there's a reason all the guys already listed in this thread are available in the first place. It's not like any of them are commanding bug bucks.

With that said, one guy not mentioned that could make some sense, Mikel LeShoure. He'd be worth a flier/tryout at leats.

 
Just put Cordarelle back there.

ETA: while only a joke, I do think he'll get more carries out of the backfield

 
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hello, Seattle, what do you want for Rob't Turbin or C. Michael?
I think we can rule out Super Bowl caliber teams such as NE or SEA trading away their depth (or starters). There is no reason for SEA to trade away either of those cheap and useful assets.

 
Or a trade is in works
Maybe but I don't see that happening. Ap can still come back this year if his legal issues get resolved and he will probably still be a Viking next season. How about Andre brown? Is he still kicking around out there? He's more talented than Asiata.
Says the guy that bragged in another thread how he got over on someone by trading away Asiata for K. Robinson.What makes you think the team will sign another RB that they could have signed all along if they were so displeased with the backups they had on their roster?
Hey, at the time I made that trade ap was reinstated and playing in week 3 and Asiata was relegated back to backup duties. It was the right trade. And if you put khiry and Asiata toe to toe talent wise khiry wins and he's on a better offense so is still probably make that trade.

But thanks for trying to call me out.

 
They may bring someone in to take a look and I think BJGE might be interesting. The Vikings also have a really tough next 3-4 games and if they lose them they may be already just playing out the season at that point so there may be no need to bring in anyone until 2014 is over (if ADP isn't going to be back with them).

 
Or a trade is in works
Maybe but I don't see that happening. Ap can still come back this year if his legal issues get resolved and he will probably still be a Viking next season.How about Andre brown? Is he still kicking around out there? He's more talented than Asiata.
Says the guy that bragged in another thread how he got over on someone by trading away Asiata for K. Robinson.What makes you think the team will sign another RB that they could have signed all along if they were so displeased with the backups they had on their roster?
Hey, at the time I made that trade ap was reinstated and playing in week 3 and Asiata was relegated back to backup duties. It was the right trade. And if you put khiry and Asiata toe to toe talent wise khiry wins and he's on a better offense so is still probably make that trade.

But thanks for trying to call me out.
It really wasn't meant to state that there was anything wrong with the trade you made in and of itself.

I'm pointing out how you are now going out of your way (after trading Asiata) to make yourself feel better as if guys like BJGE, Andre Brown or Dion Lewis are such superior options to a decent combo like Asiata-McKinnon.

We are already in Week 3, no street FA (especially the dregs that are out there) is going to come in and jump ahead on the depth chart of guys that have been their all offseason, through training camp and through the regular season. That's not how it works. For better or for worse Asiata is the starter and McKinnon will be worked in and perhaps pass him eventually. They may sign a guy like BJGE for depth, but at 29 years old he's really no better option than Asiata, frankly he's basically the same player only older and a far worse option catching passes out of the backfield.

 
Or a trade is in works
Maybe but I don't see that happening. Ap can still come back this year if his legal issues get resolved and he will probably still be a Viking next season.How about Andre brown? Is he still kicking around out there? He's more talented than Asiata.
Says the guy that bragged in another thread how he got over on someone by trading away Asiata for K. Robinson.What makes you think the team will sign another RB that they could have signed all along if they were so displeased with the backups they had on their roster?
Hey, at the time I made that trade ap was reinstated and playing in week 3 and Asiata was relegated back to backup duties. It was the right trade. And if you put khiry and Asiata toe to toe talent wise khiry wins and he's on a better offense so is still probably make that trade.But thanks for trying to call me out.
It really wasn't meant to state that there was anything wrong with the trade you made in and of itself.

I'm pointing out how you are now going out of your way (after trading Asiata) to make yourself feel better as if guys like BJGE, Andre Brown or Dion Lewis are such superior options to a decent combo like Asiata-McKinnon.

We are already in Week 3, no street FA (especially the dregs that are out there) is going to come in and jump ahead on the depth chart of guys that have been their all offseason, through training camp and through the regular season. That's not how it works. For better or for worse Asiata is the starter and McKinnon will be worked in and perhaps pass him eventually. They may sign a guy like BJGE for depth, but at 29 years old he's really no better option than Asiata, frankly he's basically the same player only older and a far worse option catching passes out of the backfield.
So now you're in my head and know for certain the privation behind posts that I write?

I assure you I didn't start this thread to "make myself feel better" about trading Asiata. I traded Asiata BC I felt that, even if ap is suspended for the year, that he isn't a very good player and that it's only his superior pass protection skills to McKinnon that will keep him on the field.

Answer this question: if McKinnon can beef up his pass pro skills do you think he will be behind Asiata in week 5? If you answered no to that, then you'll understand why I started this thread.

The Vikings organization understands that Asiata is a DRASTIC downgrade from ap. Make no mistake, they are going to look at ALL of their options other than Asiata. They might look to trade if they don't plan on brining ap back. They might look to the fa pool and sign a guy like BJGE.

They might elevate this joe barnyard kid if he can pass pro better than McKinnon. I know nothing about barnyard though.

The point of this thread is that I want to be a hustler. I want to get ahead of the crowd and be ready to pounce on whatever guy they elevate, sign, or trade for.

I couldn't care less that I traded away a guy who averages around 2-3 ypc and who I feel is going to be replaced at some point this year or at the very least find himself in a time share with a superior talent.

And I disagree that BJGE is the same talent level as Asiata. I don't know what kind of shape he is in at the moment, but as of last year I would rank him over Asiata.

 
Asiata is really bad and lucked into a TD this weekend. GL to those guys who think he has a valuable future in their lineup. He's a TD dependent plodder who, in an extended period, will be over taken by somone.

 
Or a trade is in works
Maybe but I don't see that happening. Ap can still come back this year if his legal issues get resolved and he will probably still be a Viking next season.How about Andre brown? Is he still kicking around out there? He's more talented than Asiata.
Says the guy that bragged in another thread how he got over on someone by trading away Asiata for K. Robinson.What makes you think the team will sign another RB that they could have signed all along if they were so displeased with the backups they had on their roster?
Hey, at the time I made that trade ap was reinstated and playing in week 3 and Asiata was relegated back to backup duties. It was the right trade. And if you put khiry and Asiata toe to toe talent wise khiry wins and he's on a better offense so is still probably make that trade.But thanks for trying to call me out.
It really wasn't meant to state that there was anything wrong with the trade you made in and of itself.

I'm pointing out how you are now going out of your way (after trading Asiata) to make yourself feel better as if guys like BJGE, Andre Brown or Dion Lewis are such superior options to a decent combo like Asiata-McKinnon.

We are already in Week 3, no street FA (especially the dregs that are out there) is going to come in and jump ahead on the depth chart of guys that have been their all offseason, through training camp and through the regular season. That's not how it works. For better or for worse Asiata is the starter and McKinnon will be worked in and perhaps pass him eventually. They may sign a guy like BJGE for depth, but at 29 years old he's really no better option than Asiata, frankly he's basically the same player only older and a far worse option catching passes out of the backfield.
So now you're in my head and know for certain the privation behind posts that I write?

I assure you I didn't start this thread to "make myself feel better" about trading Asiata. I traded Asiata BC I felt that, even if ap is suspended for the year, that he isn't a very good player and that it's only his superior pass protection skills to McKinnon that will keep him on the field.

Answer this question: if McKinnon can beef up his pass pro skills do you think he will be behind Asiata in week 5? If you answered no to that, then you'll understand why I started this thread.

The Vikings organization understands that Asiata is a DRASTIC downgrade from ap. Make no mistake, they are going to look at ALL of their options other than Asiata. They might look to trade if they don't plan on brining ap back. They might look to the fa pool and sign a guy like BJGE.

They might elevate this joe barnyard kid if he can pass pro better than McKinnon. I know nothing about barnyard though.

The point of this thread is that I want to be a hustler. I want to get ahead of the crowd and be ready to pounce on whatever guy they elevate, sign, or trade for.

I couldn't care less that I traded away a guy who averages around 2-3 ypc and who I feel is going to be replaced at some point this year or at the very least find himself in a time share with a superior talent.

And I disagree that BJGE is the same talent level as Asiata. I don't know what kind of shape he is in at the moment, but as of last year I would rank him over Asiata.
Ok, I'm not in your head but you're in the head of the Vikings organization.

You know that BJGE was also an undrafted free agent, who also averaged 3 ypc last season? He's now 29 and has not accomplished anything outside of NE which has one of the better run blocking lines and scheme's in the league. He also is useless in the passing game.

In two starts last season, Asiata totaled 166 yards rushing and scored 3 TDs. He's definitely not any great talent, but he has proven to be a solid option when called upon. He has spent the entire offseason and up until now learning the Norv Turner offense and working with the team. No street FA is going to come in and take over anytime soon, if ever. And even if that was to happen, how are we supposed to guess which player the Vikings will sign (until they do sign someone)?

I could certainly see McKinnon passing him on the depth chart eventually and said so, but that's an entirely different issue.

 
Honestly, what is the likelihood that they trade with someone?
Highly unlikely - in season player trades are extremely rare. There aren't a lot of teams sitting on much RB depth for one thing. There also isn't much incentive for the Vikings to surrender and draft picks to add a RB on a season where they aren't really expected to do much. It's certainly possible but hardly worth speculating on.

 
Honestly, what is the likelihood that they trade with someone?
Highly unlikely - in season player trades are extremely rare. There aren't a lot of teams sitting on much RB depth for one thing. There also isn't much incentive for the Vikings to surrender and draft picks to add a RB on a season where they aren't really expected to do much. It's certainly possible but hardly worth speculating on.
Plus the fact that it's much easier to find a halfway decent RB either on the roster, via the practice squad or even off the street. Of course, nothing like AP, but still possibly serviceable.

 
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If anyone wants to dream, I'd say Spiller or James, but I don't see the Vikes sending out a message to AP that they're moving on without him. The Vikes are in no-man's land. They may sign a FA, just a guy, but that's it, no one special and no one who would overtake Asiata who has worked for the position.

 
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I know that preseason games mean nothing but Joe Banyard has out preformed all those players listed so far.
He was with the Saints and they liked him, seemed like he had potential. The Vikes have signed him off the PS to the active roster, per RW.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
If anyone wants to dream, I'd say Spiller or James, but I don't see the Vikes sending out a message to AP that they're moving on without him. The Vikes are in no-man's land. They may sign a FA, just a guy, but that's it, no one special and no one who would overtake Asiata who has worked for the position.
:goodposting: This isn't madden.... You can't just sign or trade for a rb and expect him to do well. It takes weeks to learn the system.

Asiata is not that good, but he's what they got, and what they will roll with. They may sign a journeyman and the backfield will be a rbbc sort of thing, but Asiata is going to get the goal line carries, receptions, and bulk of the load

Depending what they decide to do with AP, they may work McKinnon in more as the season progresses, seeing what they got in him before deciding what to do for next year.

 
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