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What has Jim Caldwell done to be Head Coach? (1 Viewer)

gradin123

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It seems to me that Jim Caldwell is completely unqualified to be a head coach in the NFL.

What exactly has he done to be the heir apparent to Dungy?

His career record as a head coach for the Wake Forest Demons was 26-63.

Other than being an associate or assistant head coach with the Colts his only other job has been the Quarterbacks Coach.

Seriously how hard is it to be the quarterbacks coach when your QB is Peyton Manning?

I understand he is Dungy's pick but why is Dungy in a position to pick his own successor? The Colts have largely underachieved in the playoffs under his rein. But love or hate him at least Dungy was qualified before he got his job.

This Caldwell guy has no business being a head coach based on his track record.

 
It seems to me that Jim Caldwell is completely unqualified to be a head coach in the NFL.What exactly has he done to be the heir apparent to Dungy? His career record as a head coach for the Wake Forest Demons was 26-63.Other than being an associate or assistant head coach with the Colts his only other job has been the Quarterbacks Coach.Seriously how hard is it to be the quarterbacks coach when your QB is Peyton Manning?I understand he is Dungy's pick but why is Dungy in a position to pick his own successor? The Colts have largely underachieved in the playoffs under his rein. But love or hate him at least Dungy was qualified before he got his job.This Caldwell guy has no business being a head coach based on his track record.
How did the Colts skirt the Rooney rule?
 
I find that fans completely misunderstand the qualifications that make for a good head coach; and to be fair it seems many team owners and GMs do, as well. Will Jim Caldwell be a great head coach? Who knows, but the fact he's a QB coach for Peyton Manning with a sub par collegiate record are hardly indicative of any real risk.

Andy Reid was the QB coach in Green Bay for Brett Favre in his prime, yet he was just what the doctor ordered for Philadelphia. John Harbaugh was a special teams coordinator for the Eagles before the Ravens replaced Brian Billick with him, and that's turned out wonderfully.

Need we talk about the inverse? Spurrier, Saban, Holtz...collegiate "winners" have an abysmal record as pro coaches [outside of Jimmy Johnson].

There is no blueprint because the job requirement of an NFL head coach is vastly different than the jobs these guys do otherwise.

What you need to know about Jim Caldwell is:

*** Is he intelligent?

*** Does he command the respect of his peers and his players?

*** Does he show an understanding for the dynamics of the team outside of his positional responsibilities?

*** Has he shown an ability to communicate effectively?

*** Is he a man of high character?

*** Is he organized?

*** Does he have a plan in place for his staff, and is there reason to believe he could assemble said staff with ease?

*** Can he multi-task?

*** Can he delegate?

*** Can he self-assess and also make corrective measures when people under his charge fail at their jobs?

*** Does he love & live to coach in the NFL?

Answer those question [and to be clear, I don't think any of us are qualified to do so], and you're a LOT better off in assessing whether he'll make a good successor than looking at his college coaching record or the fact he holds a position many would deem less than vital.

 
It seems to me that Jim Caldwell is completely unqualified to be a head coach in the NFL.What exactly has he done to be the heir apparent to Dungy? His career record as a head coach for the Wake Forest Demons was 26-63.Other than being an associate or assistant head coach with the Colts his only other job has been the Quarterbacks Coach.Seriously how hard is it to be the quarterbacks coach when your QB is Peyton Manning?I understand he is Dungy's pick but why is Dungy in a position to pick his own successor? The Colts have largely underachieved in the playoffs under his rein. But love or hate him at least Dungy was qualified before he got his job.This Caldwell guy has no business being a head coach based on his track record.
How did the Colts skirt the Rooney rule?
They didn't interview him?
 
Being the assistant head coach isn't a good enough track record for being a head coach?
Not really but I guess it depends on how much responsibility he was given. I really don't know what does an assistant head coach does? But I do know an assistant or associate head coach isn't held responsible for anything. IF the defense sucks you blame the DC. If the offense sucks you blame the OC. If the team sucks you blame the head coach or GM but the assistant head coach isn't directly held responsible for anything. It seems like a pretty cushy job actually.
 
It seems to me that Jim Caldwell is completely unqualified to be a head coach in the NFL.What exactly has he done to be the heir apparent to Dungy? His career record as a head coach for the Wake Forest Demons was 26-63.Other than being an associate or assistant head coach with the Colts his only other job has been the Quarterbacks Coach.Seriously how hard is it to be the quarterbacks coach when your QB is Peyton Manning?I understand he is Dungy's pick but why is Dungy in a position to pick his own successor? The Colts have largely underachieved in the playoffs under his rein. But love or hate him at least Dungy was qualified before he got his job.This Caldwell guy has no business being a head coach based on his track record.
How did the Colts skirt the Rooney rule?
:loco:
 
I find that fans completely misunderstand the qualifications that make for a good head coach; and to be fair it seems many team owners and GMs do, as well. Will Jim Caldwell be a great head coach? Who knows, but the fact he's a QB coach for Peyton Manning with a sub par collegiate record are hardly indicative of any real risk.Andy Reid was the QB coach in Green Bay for Brett Favre in his prime, yet he was just what the doctor ordered for Philadelphia. John Harbaugh was a special teams coordinator for the Eagles before the Ravens replaced Brian Billick with him, and that's turned out wonderfully. Need we talk about the inverse? Spurrier, Saban, Holtz...collegiate "winners" have an abysmal record as pro coaches [outside of Jimmy Johnson]. There is no blueprint because the job requirement of an NFL head coach is vastly different than the jobs these guys do otherwise. What you need to know about Jim Caldwell is:*** Is he intelligent?*** Does he command the respect of his peers and his players?*** Does he show an understanding for the dynamics of the team outside of his positional responsibilities?*** Has he shown an ability to communicate effectively?*** Is he a man of high character?*** Is he organized?*** Does he have a plan in place for his staff, and is there reason to believe he could assemble said staff with ease?*** Can he multi-task?*** Can he delegate?*** Can he self-assess and also make corrective measures when people under his charge fail at their jobs?*** Does he love & live to coach in the NFL?Answer those question [and to be clear, I don't think any of us are qualified to do so], and you're a LOT better off in assessing whether he'll make a good successor than looking at his college coaching record or the fact he holds a position many would deem less than vital.
You make good points. But the one thing you can look is that he was a failure at Wake Forest. I can't say I followed Wake Forest that closely during those years but I would have to guess the answer to a lot of those questions for them was NO.Can you point to anyone who has been a failure as a head coach in college and made it as a good NFL head coach?Also Reid was also an OL line coach for many years.
 
gradin123 said:
Jason Wood said:
I find that fans completely misunderstand the qualifications that make for a good head coach; and to be fair it seems many team owners and GMs do, as well. Will Jim Caldwell be a great head coach? Who knows, but the fact he's a QB coach for Peyton Manning with a sub par collegiate record are hardly indicative of any real risk.Andy Reid was the QB coach in Green Bay for Brett Favre in his prime, yet he was just what the doctor ordered for Philadelphia. John Harbaugh was a special teams coordinator for the Eagles before the Ravens replaced Brian Billick with him, and that's turned out wonderfully. Need we talk about the inverse? Spurrier, Saban, Holtz...collegiate "winners" have an abysmal record as pro coaches [outside of Jimmy Johnson]. There is no blueprint because the job requirement of an NFL head coach is vastly different than the jobs these guys do otherwise. What you need to know about Jim Caldwell is:*** Is he intelligent?*** Does he command the respect of his peers and his players?*** Does he show an understanding for the dynamics of the team outside of his positional responsibilities?*** Has he shown an ability to communicate effectively?*** Is he a man of high character?*** Is he organized?*** Does he have a plan in place for his staff, and is there reason to believe he could assemble said staff with ease?*** Can he multi-task?*** Can he delegate?*** Can he self-assess and also make corrective measures when people under his charge fail at their jobs?*** Does he love & live to coach in the NFL?Answer those question [and to be clear, I don't think any of us are qualified to do so], and you're a LOT better off in assessing whether he'll make a good successor than looking at his college coaching record or the fact he holds a position many would deem less than vital.
You make good points. But the one thing you can look is that he was a failure at Wake Forest.
List the coaches who've had success at Wake.It shouldn't take long.
 
Da Guru said:
gradin123 said:
It seems to me that Jim Caldwell is completely unqualified to be a head coach in the NFL.What exactly has he done to be the heir apparent to Dungy? His career record as a head coach for the Wake Forest Demons was 26-63.Other than being an associate or assistant head coach with the Colts his only other job has been the Quarterbacks Coach.Seriously how hard is it to be the quarterbacks coach when your QB is Peyton Manning?I understand he is Dungy's pick but why is Dungy in a position to pick his own successor? The Colts have largely underachieved in the playoffs under his rein. But love or hate him at least Dungy was qualified before he got his job.This Caldwell guy has no business being a head coach based on his track record.
How did the Colts skirt the Rooney rule?
The same way the Seahawks did.
 
Da Guru said:
gradin123 said:
It seems to me that Jim Caldwell is completely unqualified to be a head coach in the NFL.What exactly has he done to be the heir apparent to Dungy? His career record as a head coach for the Wake Forest Demons was 26-63.Other than being an associate or assistant head coach with the Colts his only other job has been the Quarterbacks Coach.Seriously how hard is it to be the quarterbacks coach when your QB is Peyton Manning?I understand he is Dungy's pick but why is Dungy in a position to pick his own successor? The Colts have largely underachieved in the playoffs under his rein. But love or hate him at least Dungy was qualified before he got his job.This Caldwell guy has no business being a head coach based on his track record.
How did the Colts skirt the Rooney rule?
The same way the Seahawks did.
I know there is a lot of sarcasm going on, but just in case some people don't know Jim Caldwell is black
 
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List the coaches who've had success at Wake.

It shouldn't take long.
The coach before him and the coach after him both had much more success.Jim Grobe 2001-Present 54-44 . 551

Bill Dooley 1987-1992 29-36-2 .448

Jim Caldwell 1993-2000 26-63 .292
So a .448 winning percentage constitutes "success" now?
It seems that gradin123 is much more in the nkow about Caldwell than Colts ownership, so it's best for you not to argue otherwise you'll just wind up looking silly.
 
List the coaches who've had success at Wake.

It shouldn't take long.
The coach before him and the coach after him both had much more success.Jim Grobe 2001-Present 54-44 . 551

Bill Dooley 1987-1992 29-36-2 .448

Jim Caldwell 1993-2000 26-63 .292
So a .448 winning percentage constitutes "success" now?
Well it's better than .292.This is from his bio from the Colts website which is trying to spin things for the positive.

Caldwell spent 1993-2000 as head coach at Wake Forest. In 1999, Caldwell led the school to its first winning season and bowl game since 1992.

So in 1999 he managed to bring them to a bowl game for the first time since the year before he got he there(1992). Wow, what an accomplishment!

 
It seems that gradin123 is much more in the nkow about Caldwell than Colts ownership, so it's best for you not to argue otherwise you'll just wind up looking silly.
The Colts are possibly on the verge of handing the reigns over to an unaccomplished Dungy Clone and IMO that can't be a good thing.The reason the colts ownership have decided to go with him, I'm sure, is the hope he'll be able to take over the Colts and keep things going along as they currently are but I don't think Caldwell has done anything to suggest he can even do that. I also think the way things currently are isn't that great.
 
Jason Wood said:
What you need to know about Jim Caldwell is:*** Is he intelligent?*** Does he command the respect of his peers and his players?*** Does he show an understanding for the dynamics of the team outside of his positional responsibilities?*** Has he shown an ability to communicate effectively?*** Is he a man of high character?*** Is he organized?*** Does he have a plan in place for his staff, and is there reason to believe he could assemble said staff with ease?*** Can he multi-task?*** Can he delegate?*** Can he self-assess and also make corrective measures when people under his charge fail at their jobs?*** Does he love & live to coach in the NFL?Answer those question [and to be clear, I don't think any of us are qualified to do so], and you're a LOT better off in assessing whether he'll make a good successor than looking at his college coaching record or the fact he holds a position many would deem less than vital.
I like some of those. My guidelines are:*** Does he have organizational skills?*** Can he motivate players to get the most out of them?*** Does he have an ego problem? Or does he do things based on merit?*** Does he have a passion for the game?I left off "high character" because I'd assume that's a requirement for any job. The ability to multi-task or delegate is more personal choice, and you can model your coaching staff to suit to taste. Even intelligence can be deleted to be honest. You don't have to be smart to be a great leader, but motivational skills are essential. Communication skills aren't that important either because having a passion for the game will override any communication problems.
 
List the coaches who've had success at Wake.

It shouldn't take long.
The coach before him and the coach after him both had much more success.Jim Grobe 2001-Present 54-44 . 551

Bill Dooley 1987-1992 29-36-2 .448

Jim Caldwell 1993-2000 26-63 .292
So a .448 winning percentage constitutes "success" now?
Well it's better than .292.This is from his bio from the Colts website which is trying to spin things for the positive.

Caldwell spent 1993-2000 as head coach at Wake Forest. In 1999, Caldwell led the school to its first winning season and bowl game since 1992.

So in 1999 he managed to bring them to a bowl game for the first time since the year before he got he there(1992). Wow, what an accomplishment!
Don't be so ignorant. Do you think all jobs are created equally? Do you really think the success/failure one has at Wake Forest correlates to the NFL in any way? Shouldn't Pete Carroll be a great NFL coach? Why was he only 33-31? Should Steve Spurrier have been a great NFL coach? Nick Saban?Do you think it's just as easy to win at Wake Forest as it is USC, LSU, Alabama, or Florida?

What do you believe the job of a head coach is?

 
List the coaches who've had success at Wake.

It shouldn't take long.
The coach before him and the coach after him both had much more success.Jim Grobe 2001-Present 54-44 . 551

Bill Dooley 1987-1992 29-36-2 .448

Jim Caldwell 1993-2000 26-63 .292
So a .448 winning percentage constitutes "success" now?
Well it's better than .292.This is from his bio from the Colts website which is trying to spin things for the positive.

Caldwell spent 1993-2000 as head coach at Wake Forest. In 1999, Caldwell led the school to its first winning season and bowl game since 1992.

So in 1999 he managed to bring them to a bowl game for the first time since the year before he got he there(1992). Wow, what an accomplishment!
Don't be so ignorant. Do you think all jobs are created equally? Do you really think the success/failure one has at Wake Forest correlates to the NFL in any way? Shouldn't Pete Carroll be a great NFL coach? Why was he only 33-31? Should Steve Spurrier have been a great NFL coach? Nick Saban?Do you think it's just as easy to win at Wake Forest as it is USC, LSU, Alabama, or Florida?

What do you believe the job of a head coach is?
:football: Was going to say something very similar. Wake Forest is a tough job at the college level. It's one of those jobs where you're practically doomed before you even start. He must have done something right to catch the eye of the pros and step up into the NFL.
 
Does anyone know whether Caldwell also likes anorexic DL and runt LBs and dwarf DBs?

 
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Da Guru said:
gradin123 said:
It seems to me that Jim Caldwell is completely unqualified to be a head coach in the NFL.What exactly has he done to be the heir apparent to Dungy? His career record as a head coach for the Wake Forest Demons was 26-63.Other than being an associate or assistant head coach with the Colts his only other job has been the Quarterbacks Coach.Seriously how hard is it to be the quarterbacks coach when your QB is Peyton Manning?I understand he is Dungy's pick but why is Dungy in a position to pick his own successor? The Colts have largely underachieved in the playoffs under his rein. But love or hate him at least Dungy was qualified before he got his job.This Caldwell guy has no business being a head coach based on his track record.
How did the Colts skirt the Rooney rule?
The same way the Seahawks did.
I know there is a lot of sarcasm going on, but just in case some people don't know Jim Caldwell is black
My comment refers to the fact that both Seattle and Indy hired "coaches in waiting" last off-season which in both cases circumvents the "rooney rule."
 
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Da Guru said:
gradin123 said:
It seems to me that Jim Caldwell is completely unqualified to be a head coach in the NFL.

What exactly has he done to be the heir apparent to Dungy?

His career record as a head coach for the Wake Forest Demons was 26-63.

Other than being an associate or assistant head coach with the Colts his only other job has been the Quarterbacks Coach.

Seriously how hard is it to be the quarterbacks coach when your QB is Peyton Manning?

I understand he is Dungy's pick but why is Dungy in a position to pick his own successor? The Colts have largely underachieved in the playoffs under his rein. But love or hate him at least Dungy was qualified before he got his job.

This Caldwell guy has no business being a head coach based on his track record.
How did the Colts skirt the Rooney rule?
The same way the Seahawks did.
I know there is a lot of sarcasm going on, but just in case some people don't know Jim Caldwell is black
My comment refers to the fact that both Seattle and Indy hired "coaches in waiting" last off-season which in both cases circumvents the "rooney rule."
It "circumvents", but doesn't violate.Actually, I'm not sure it even circumvents it. It leaves a procedure for the owners to pick their next coach ahead of time, but if it's an open job, they have to give minorities a chance an interview. IMO it's the exception that makes the rule somewhat less of a farce.

 
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It seems that gradin123 is much more in the nkow about Caldwell than Colts ownership, so it's best for you not to argue otherwise you'll just wind up looking silly.
The Colts are possibly on the verge of handing the reigns over to an unaccomplished Dungy Clone and IMO that can't be a good thing.The reason the colts ownership have decided to go with him, I'm sure, is the hope he'll be able to take over the Colts and keep things going along as they currently are but I don't think Caldwell has done anything to suggest he can even do that. I also think the way things currently are isn't that great.
Haven't the Colts won 12 games a year for 7 years? Be careful what you wish for.
 
Don't be so ignorant. Do you think all jobs are created equally? Do you really think the success/failure one has at Wake Forest correlates to the NFL in any way? Shouldn't Pete Carroll be a great NFL coach? Why was he only 33-31? Should Steve Spurrier have been a great NFL coach? Nick Saban?

Do you think it's just as easy to win at Wake Forest as it is USC, LSU, Alabama, or Florida?

What do you believe the job of a head coach is?
A head coach is a leader. He is a person who stragetizes well and gets the most out of his talent. Jim Caldwell clearly failed to do those things at Wake Forest.

Would he be a better head coach now? I don't see anything he has done since Wake Forest to suggest he would be.The argument that many successful college head coaches have failed in the NFL therefore a college coach who failed can have success is completely ludicrous.

I ask you this. Can you name any successful NFL head coach who was first a failure as a head coach in college? Anyone?

 
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Don't be so ignorant. Do you think all jobs are created equally? Do you really think the success/failure one has at Wake Forest correlates to the NFL in any way? Shouldn't Pete Carroll be a great NFL coach? Why was he only 33-31? Should Steve Spurrier have been a great NFL coach? Nick Saban?

Do you think it's just as easy to win at Wake Forest as it is USC, LSU, Alabama, or Florida?

What do you believe the job of a head coach is?
A head coach is a leader. He is a person who stragetizes well and gets the most out of his talent. Jim Caldwell clearly failed to do those things at Wake Forest.

Would he be a better head coach now? I don't see anything he has done since Wake Forest to suggest he would be.The argument that many successful college head coaches have failed in the NFL therefore a college coach who failed can have success is completely ludicrous.

I ask you this. Can you name any successful NFL head coach who was first a failure as a head coach in college? Anyone?
How do you know Caldwell wasn't a leader at Wake Forest? Anything of substance that proves his teams did not view him as a good leader? If he were jumping right from WF to the NFL, I'd be questioning the move. But he's been a large part of what Indianapolis has done for years now. He understands how the NFL works. I think the decision makers there probably understand what his roll has been, who views him as a good CEO type to run the ship, and what kind of a decision maker he is. It isn't like the Colts would be promoting the man off of a two hour interview.

 
Don't be so ignorant. Do you think all jobs are created equally? Do you really think the success/failure one has at Wake Forest correlates to the NFL in any way? Shouldn't Pete Carroll be a great NFL coach? Why was he only 33-31? Should Steve Spurrier have been a great NFL coach? Nick Saban?

Do you think it's just as easy to win at Wake Forest as it is USC, LSU, Alabama, or Florida?

What do you believe the job of a head coach is?
A head coach is a leader. He is a person who stragetizes well and gets the most out of his talent. Jim Caldwell clearly failed to do those things at Wake Forest.

Would he be a better head coach now? I don't see anything he has done since Wake Forest to suggest he would be.The argument that many successful college head coaches have failed in the NFL therefore a college coach who failed can have success is completely ludicrous.

I ask you this. Can you name any successful NFL head coach who was first a failure as a head coach in college? Anyone?
Bill Parcells.
 
Do you think Caldwell will keep the Dungy philosophy on defense, where he drafts small but quick players? I would like to see the Colts get stronger against the run, and that will require some bigger bodies at DT, and perhaps at MLB at the very least.

 
Bill Parcells.
I guess technically that is right but it is also a stretch. Parcells only coached Air Force for one year hardly enough to go on. I wouldn't say Parcells was a failure as a college head coach it would have to be scored as an incomplete. His team had a better record the year he coached them than the year before or after. He then left to become the defensive coordinator with the Giants. Caldwell was the coach at Wake Forest for 8 seasons. Parcells went on to have success as a defensive coordinator in the NFL before he became Head Coach. If Caldwell had any responsibilites in the NFL after Wake Forest that was even close to a coordinator I could see him getting some consideration. But he was a freaking QB coach. That is it.
 
Bill Parcells.
I guess technically that is right but it is also a stretch. Parcells only coached Air Force for one year hardly enough to go on. I wouldn't say Parcells was a failure as a college head coach it would have to be scored as an incomplete. His team had a better record the year he coached them than the year before or after. He then left to become the defensive coordinator with the Giants. Caldwell was the coach at Wake Forest for 8 seasons. Parcells went on to have success as a defensive coordinator in the NFL before he became Head Coach. If Caldwell had any responsibilites in the NFL after Wake Forest that was even close to a coordinator I could see him getting some consideration. But he was a freaking QB coach. That is it.
What does a coordinator do differently from a position coach that prepares one to be a head coach in the NFL?Do you really believe Caldwell has only a few responsibilities on the Colts staff? You do realize he is also the associate HC and not just a QB coach, right?How did Mike Tomlin convince Rooney he was head coaching material after one just season as a coordinator?
 
I'm a Wake Forest grad so let me shed some light on the situation. Put the current Wake Forest aura (bowl games and an ACC Championship) out of your mind. Wake had traditionally been one of THE suckiest football teams in the country. This was a lifelong history for the program. We are one of the smallest Division I schools in the country. During his tenure there he did take us to the bowl game. Also, we broke a few NCAA passing records with a guy I grew up with, Rusty Larue (who later went on to an NBA journeyman career, won a ring with the Bulls), at QB. Rusty was by no means a phenomenal QB. That Caldwell didn't have a better record at Wake isn't surprising. That we actually went to a bowl game with him at the helm is. Before Jim Grobe came to Wake Forest, bowl games at Wake were akin to sightings of Jesus.

From what I know about Caldwell, he knows his stuff about the passing game. He didn't exactly have a stellar program to implement his gameplanning but did find some relative success (bowl game, winning record). You have to take into account the history of Wake Forest football before you judge him on his overall record.

Heck, to change the subject, more people should be talking about Jim Grobe. What he's done at Wake is nothing short of amazing. And, he does it despite the same problem Caldwell had; we don't get the players other schools do. Instead of the high school All-Americans we have to find diamonds in the rough and polish em' up. If Wake Forest is able to translate their recent success into better recruiting; WATCH OUT. :cool: :cool:

Go Wake! :coffee:

 
That we actually went to a bowl game with him at the helm is. Before Jim Grobe came to Wake Forest, bowl games at Wake were akin to sightings of Jesus.
Well I guess 1992 was the year of the lord. Because Wake Forest went to a Bowl Game the year before Caldwell got there and he didn't bring them back to one until 1999.
 
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That we actually went to a bowl game with him at the helm is. Before Jim Grobe came to Wake Forest, bowl games at Wake were akin to sightings of Jesus.
Well I guess 1992 was the year of the lord. Because Wake Forest went to a Bowl Game the year before Caldwell got there and he didn't bring them back to one until 1999.
Do you know anything about Wake Forest? You talk as if all college jobs are created equally.
 
What does a coordinator do differently from a position coach that prepares one to be a head coach in the NFL?
Generally a coordinator calls the plays and develops the playbook on offense and is responsible for the entire defensive scheme of defense. It is a huge responsibility to be a coordinator. What does a QB coach for Peyton Manning do? Stroke his ego? I guarantee Peyton Manning already knows more about the QB position than Jim Caldwell will ever know.In fact, according to the Colts website they don't even have a QB coach anymore now that Caldwell is the associate head coach.
 
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He has been an assistant with the team since 2002

I am pretty sure his tenure with the Colts has more to do with him getting the HC job than his time at Wake Forest does.

Polian and Irsay obviously feel comfortable enough with him, so what’s your problem?

 
That we actually went to a bowl game with him at the helm is. Before Jim Grobe came to Wake Forest, bowl games at Wake were akin to sightings of Jesus.
Well I guess 1992 was the year of the lord. Because Wake Forest went to a Bowl Game the year before Caldwell got there and he didn't bring them back to one until 1999.
Still, no small accomplishment. Not at all.This list is a couple years old and doesn't include all of the Jim Grobe era:2006 Orange Louisville L 13-242002 Seattle Oregon W 38-171999 Aloha Arizona State W 23-31992 Independence Oregon W 39-351979 Tangerine Louisiana State L 10-341948 Dixie Baylor L 7-201945 Gator South Carolina W 26-14Historically, there has not been much at all to root for with Wake Forest football.CoachYears#YearsGamesWonLostTiedWin%W.C. Dowd 1888111001.000W.C. Riddick 188916330.500Walter E. Sikes 1891-189339621.722Unknown 189511001.500A.P. Hall, Jr. 190815140.200A.T. Myers 190916240.333Reddy Rowe 191019270.222Frank Thompson 1911-19133245190.208Dr. Wilbur C. Smith 1914-19152166100.375G.M. Billings 191616330.500Edwin T. MacDonnell 191718161.188Harry A. Rabenhorst 1918-1919211380.273J.L. White 1920-19212194150.211George Levene 1922110352.400Henry M. "Hank" Garrity 1923-19253271971.722James Baldwin 1926-19272207103.425Stanley B. "Stan" Cofall 1928110262.300Frank S. "Pat" Miller 1929-193243718154.541James H. "Jim" Weaver 1933-193643410231.309Douglas C. "Peahead" Walker 1937-19501413477516.597Tom Rogers 1951-195555021254.460Paul J. Amen 1956-195944011263.313Bill Hildebrand 1960-19634407330.175Bill Tate 1964-196855017321.350Cal Stoll 1969-197133215170.469Tom Harper 1972111290.182Chuck Mills 1973-197755511431.209John Mackovic 1978-198033414200.412Al Groh 1981-198666626400.394Bill Dooley 1987-199266729362.448Jim Caldwell 1993-200078926630.292Jim Grobe 2001-Current67237350.514Total (31 coaches) 10599938957733.406
 
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He has been an assistant with the team since 2002I am pretty sure his tenure with the Colts has more to do with him getting the HC job than his time at Wake Forest does.Polian and Irsay obviously feel comfortable enough with him, so what’s your problem?
I don't care really, I'm not a Colts fan. I just think the Colts will regress if he is named coach.
 
Do you think Caldwell will keep the Dungy philosophy on defense, where he drafts small but quick players? I would like to see the Colts get stronger against the run, and that will require some bigger bodies at DT, and perhaps at MLB at the very least.
I'll reply to my own post and say I guess no one knows the answer to this. I've asked 3 times.ETA: This is probably the most important question concerning Caldwell.
 
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When Mike Holmgren left Green Bay after appearing in his 2nd super bowl he recommended Andy Reid but Ron Wolf picked Ray Rhodes. Reid hadn't done much then either.

Listen to Dungy.

 
Do you think Caldwell will keep the Dungy philosophy on defense, where he drafts small but quick players? I would like to see the Colts get stronger against the run, and that will require some bigger bodies at DT, and perhaps at MLB at the very least.
I don't know the answer, but it's a much more interesting question than the crap posted by the OP.
 
Chase Stuart said:
Being the assistant head coach isn't a good enough track record for being a head coach?
absolutely NOT, I mean, google the name `Marty Mornhinweg` , one of the worst HC's of all time..5-27 record as HC of the Lions, now the assistant head coach of the Eagles.Bill Callahan was assistant head coach under Gruden ( Raiders). Yes he led his team to the SB, but wasn't a great head coach.went on to Nebraska, where his teams never finished better than 9-5 in any season ( including bowl games).now he's the assistant head coach of the NY Jets..uggh..If I'm not mistaken the Redskins named Gregg Williams as assistant head coach, under Gibbs..how'd that work out?!Jason Garrett is assistant head coach in Dallas, but is he going to make a good HC?! don't know, the way the offensive players are talking about him and his play calling, I'm not so sure..Dallas sputtered down the stretch,and the play calling was atrocious.Jim Mora, Jr is/was assistant head coach for Seattle..when did Jim Mora ever do anything? he stunk as a HC.:excited:Dungy's bunch gets mixed reviews...Lovie Smith ( meh), Rod Marinelli ( 0-16 speaks for itself), Mike Tomlin ( good HC), Herm Edwards ( perhaps the worst HC coach in the NFL not named Marinelli)..don't remember the Colts defense being anything special over the past 5-6 years..at some point, the defensive-minded coaching staff is to blame, its not like they don't have pro bowl players on defense..
 
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Well it sounds like Dungy is stepping down now.

The Jim Caldwell era is about to begin. I guess we'll find out what kind of coach he'll be but if I was a Colts fan I'd be worried.

He inherits a pretty good team and a great QB but he's too much like Dungy in my view.

Generally when a team changes coaches the best strategy is to go with a personality different from the last. I think things are getting stale in Indy and going with a Dungy clone with a bad track record as a head coach is not a good idea.

 
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You have to admire someone like Tom Moore [or Monte Kiffen] who are ego neutral enough to remain at their position with multiple head men.

 

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