TheFanatic
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I think I learnt that when there is just one game to talk about in the NFL that it will be analyzed well beyond any reasonable discussion. I'm OK with that...
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What I think I learnt - Steelers/Titans (1 Viewer)
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I'm FAR from sold on Mendenhall, but he had nowhere to go last night. I was impressed with his strength. On several carries he was met in the backfield and carried the defender back to the line...where he got hit by two more defenders, and STILL fell forward. He NEVER had open space to work with, so I think any realistic evalutaion has to wait a bit longer.DISCLAIMER: I traded away Mendenhall this summer and own him in exactly ZERO leagues.Ben could be in for an excellant year.Collins was neither good nor bad last night. He had a few poor throws, but made generally made good decisions and kept his team in the game. The interception should not have been (terrible job by Britt there!), but the ball was horribly underthrown. He's a game manager, a low end QB2 for fantasy purposes.Tennessee will struggle this year on defense.UnknownCoach
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I noticed that too. Its probably just a matter of time before he's starting. There was a miscue on the first run, but Mendenhall missed most of his rookie season. So its not that surprising. Had he stayed healthy last year, he'd already be starting IMO.All I can say for M'hall is that despite having NO blocking or lanes and being hit in the backfield, he pushed forward very well.Ben looked at Mendenhall on the play and tapped his own chest as if to say it was his fault, not RM.I noticed that too. Its probably just a matter of time before he's starting. There was a miscue on the first run, but Mendenhall missed most of his rookie season. So its not that surprising. Had he stayed healthy last year, he'd already be starting IMO. That play could've been Ben's fault as well. But the line play was horrible and he finishes his runs to get whatever yardage he can. He gained yards after contact....showing good power. No he didn't break anything....but neither did any other steelers RB.I'm not sure where I would rank him against this year's rookies, but he looked HORRIBLE. Granted, the Titans are not an easy matchup even without Haynesworth, but he didn't look great in the preseason, or last year.IIRC, his first handoff last night he ran straight into Ben. It looked like somebody was playing Madden with the kid - and not in a good way. He took the ball, did a spin (whether it appeared necessary or not), then proceeded to run smack into whoever or whatever was in front of him. I don't know if he magically expected the hole to just open up in front of him or he thought he could run through both his offensive line and the Titans' defensive line, but he missed a couple small holes.Mendenhall -
HellToupee
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They also had a hammer of a FB that could be utilized &block when they had to pound the ball in short yardageand the o-line really can't run block
HellToupee
Footballguy
In my view, he is a very average QB. He still plays the same he did as a rookie. He has really shown no progression.
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teamramrod
Footballguy
Oh, but did we ever miss fossball. Even if it is the debil.Peace.Oh BTW, Steeler fan is becoming almost unbearable as Cowboy or Yankee fan....Peace out.
teamramrod
Footballguy
What progression is past the SuperBowl? Scoreboard.Signed,Trent Dilfer's Ring and Dan Marino's/Dan Fouts Empty FingerPeaceIn my view, he is a very average QB. He still plays the same he did as a rookie. He has really shown no progression.
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This is perhaps the foulest smelling bait the Shark Pool has ever seen.In my view, he is a very average QB. He still plays the same he did as a rookie. He has really shown no progression.
HellToupee
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I'll take a passIn my view, he is a very average QB. He still plays the same he did as a rookie. He has really shown no progression.
fantasy stud
Footballguy
Lets see, the 2 times the Titans put Chris Johnson in space he looked like a stud. Instead of pass blocking he should slipping out of the backfield catching passes. I can't believe the Titans didn't attempt one screen pass against the blitz. Collins also throws everything down the field and doesn't look to dump it down to him when he does run patterns.
Bad offensive line or not, the Willie parker I saw last night looked extremely hesitant compared to the other 2 rb's. He went down without a fight and looked slow.
Moore is by far their best back and will be a waiver wire steal just like last year and back in the day in Minnesota. I've never lost a game with him in my lineup.
Finally, I don't how anyone can argue that Ben isn't easily a top 10 QB in the NFL.
Bad offensive line or not, the Willie parker I saw last night looked extremely hesitant compared to the other 2 rb's. He went down without a fight and looked slow.
Moore is by far their best back and will be a waiver wire steal just like last year and back in the day in Minnesota. I've never lost a game with him in my lineup.
Finally, I don't how anyone can argue that Ben isn't easily a top 10 QB in the NFL.
Godsbrother
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Go back and watch Super Bowl XLIII. That should refresh your memory
Godsbrother
Footballguy
That was the change in philosophy I was talking about.
This board gets more clueless every year. Mendenhall's first carry was Ben's fault. Kemo was pulling and it was a counter play and Ben forgot the counter part. Mendenhall had what 2 carries and got more when there was nothing than FWP did with his carries. FWP is great when the OL is creating huge holes to utilize his speed and he does not have to think or use any instincts. FWP just does not have the runners instincts that the good rbs possess.I'm not sure where I would rank him against this year's rookies, but he looked HORRIBLE. Granted, the Titans are not an easy matchup even without Haynesworth, but he didn't look great in the preseason, or last year.IIRC, his first handoff last night he ran straight into Ben. It looked like somebody was playing Madden with the kid - and not in a good way. He took the ball, did a spin (whether it appeared necessary or not), then proceeded to run smack into whoever or whatever was in front of him. I don't know if he magically expected the hole to just open up in front of him or he thought he could run through both his offensive line and the Titans' defensive line, but he missed a couple small holes.Mendenhall -
I think I saw the play. fairly early in the game. he was running toward the sideline, and the commentator said he should have come back to the QB.
Kenny Powers
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Its because the Steelers offensive line has probably 3 HOFers on it. He has so much time to pass, I think anyone could play QB for Pittsburgh
great thread with great discussion.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
re: FWP - pretty good chance he puts up some big numbers in several games this year, despite the mediocre o-line. Pretty sweet spots in the schedule against poor run defenses.
Mendy has looked awful every time I have watched him the last two years. Lots of chatter about he keeps his legs churning, and he can move a pile, but if that is true, why hasn't it ever resulted in a big run? Too small a sample size to argue either way, but I honestly don't think he will ever be the starter.
MeMo will have an important role on the 2009 Stillers, but his upside is limited. Just can't get it done in between the tackles. The Steelers have to improve on 3rd/4th and short. I don't know what the answer is given the personnel limitations they have right now (the backs and the line both).
Mendy has looked awful every time I have watched him the last two years. Lots of chatter about he keeps his legs churning, and he can move a pile, but if that is true, why hasn't it ever resulted in a big run? Too small a sample size to argue either way, but I honestly don't think he will ever be the starter.
MeMo will have an important role on the 2009 Stillers, but his upside is limited. Just can't get it done in between the tackles. The Steelers have to improve on 3rd/4th and short. I don't know what the answer is given the personnel limitations they have right now (the backs and the line both).
Kenny Powers
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I think Mendenhall has definitely improved. He's basically looked like FWP since he's been around too. When there's a hole, Mendy shows a lot of burst through it and breaks an 8 yarder with ease. When there's nothing, he looks terrible.I doubt he takes carries away from FWP, but in those "easy" games, I could definitely see a pretty even split between the 2.
heidbrink
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I think I learned that: If you are riding the waiver wire with your defense, one should always consider whoever plays Pittsburgh because you are guaranteed at least few sacks. Ben refuses to throw the ball away. Reminds me of Terry Bradshaw in as much as he could easily play in that era with his style of play.
I also learned that that was a fantastic way to start the football season this year. Great game. Defensive success (why do they say struggle?) for both teams. I imagine that was a long way back to the locker room for Rob Bironas.
I also learned that that was a fantastic way to start the football season this year. Great game. Defensive success (why do they say struggle?) for both teams. I imagine that was a long way back to the locker room for Rob Bironas.
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