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What is a fair price to get for Maroney at this point (1 Viewer)

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I drafted Maroney 7th overall in a dynasty draft with LT, SJax, Addai, Gore, LJ and Bush off the board because I figured with his age and situation he was the best long term bet of any of the remaining players. This appears to be a huge mistake, as I obviously underestimated the amount Belichick would use Morris, Evans, Faulk, etc. Maroney looks like a marginal #2 RB.

Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no way I can compete this season and want to position myself for next year and to hopefully get a top 4 pick. I also drafted Vince Young in rd 6 not knowing that the scoring was 0.5 pt/completion. I inexplicably missed that point scouring over the league rules page. Since top passing QBs are logging 50+ pt games and outscoring everyone else by 20+ and Young is getting me nice 13 pt crap efforts, I feel I am even more baked for this year.

I want to trade Maroney before his perceived value falls further. I think he may be this year's Cadillac Williams, who was drafted in the first last year before losing most of his value before the end of the year and being barely a 4th rounder in this year's dynasty draft. What is a fair price to get for him? Am I selling him too short if I ask for Fitzgerald and Cutler?

It's a PPR league, 0.5 pt per completion, -4 pts for picks, 6 pts for passing and rushing TDs 20/10 yardage. We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE and 1 RB/WR/TE flex.

Here is the disaster that I drafted:

QB: Young, EManning, Grossman, Leftwich

RB: Maroney, Portis, McAllister, Betts, CBrown, Pittman, SMorris, SYoung, KKeith

WR: SSmith, Evans, Berrian, Hackett, Porter, Crayton, DemWilliams, RWhite

TE: Cooley, HEvans

K: Mare

D: Broncos

 
Cerwin said:
It's.been.one.week.
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It has been just one week, but I think I have seen enough of Maroney to be convinced that he is a total bust this year and as long as he plays for the Patriots he will never be worthy of his current perceived value. Evans and Cooley also had terrible weeks but I am not jumping off the truck on them because I think those were flukey, but Maroney I think is cooked.
 
jdh79 said:
Cerwin said:
It's.been.one.week.
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It has been just one week, but I think I have seen enough of Maroney to be convinced that he is a total bust this year and as long as he plays for the Patriots he will never be worthy of his current perceived value. Evans and Cooley also had terrible weeks but I am not jumping off the truck on them because I think those were flukey, but Maroney I think is cooked.
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His value is low, and after the San Diego game, it may even get lower. Don't kill your trade value if you need to unload him. He plays Buff, Cinn, and Cle in weeks 3-5 so he should be able to put up decent numbers vs. those teams. If you are convinced he's a bust - and one week is not enough to convince me - at least let him pile up a couple of decent games before you trade him.
 
jdoggydogg said:
jdh79 said:
Cerwin said:
It's.been.one.week.
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It has been just one week, but I think I have seen enough of Maroney to be convinced that he is a total bust this year and as long as he plays for the Patriots he will never be worthy of his current perceived value. Evans and Cooley also had terrible weeks but I am not jumping off the truck on them because I think those were flukey, but Maroney I think is cooked.
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His value is low, and after the San Diego game, it may even get lower. Don't kill your trade value if you need to unload him. He plays Buff, Cinn, and Cle in weeks 3-5 so he should be able to put up decent numbers vs. those teams. If you are convinced he's a bust - and one week is not enough to convince me - at least let him pile up a couple of decent games before you trade him.
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It's nothing to do with how he performed on Sunday that leads me to think he's a bust, and I think he has the talent to be a top 5 RB for years to come. What convinces me that he will never live up to that is the fact that Belichick keeps up his insistence on using scrub role RBs and not really letting any one back have signifigant value regardless of superior talent. I thought it would be different given that it's the first time he has used a 1st rounder on a RB and thought he would lean on Maroney as a true workhorse, but seeing the way week one is shaping up, and in retrospect the way Belichick has historically used backs, I was obviously very wrong. To the people making snide comments, I have no intention of giving him away and will only do it if I get reasonable value, but I think right now may be sell high time.You would think he should bust out with those 3 easy games after next week, but I also thought he would do that this week against a bad run defense too. All astute owners will also think he should do well in those games, and it comes down to what if he doesn't? What if Belichick continues to use Evans to vulture TDs and Morris to steal a large number of carries? If he doesn't break out in those games, I have a full fledged bust on my hands that I can no longer trade for anything close to what he probably can get right now.
 
jdh79 said:
jdoggydogg said:
jdh79 said:
Cerwin said:
It's.been.one.week.
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It has been just one week, but I think I have seen enough of Maroney to be convinced that he is a total bust this year and as long as he plays for the Patriots he will never be worthy of his current perceived value. Evans and Cooley also had terrible weeks but I am not jumping off the truck on them because I think those were flukey, but Maroney I think is cooked.
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His value is low, and after the San Diego game, it may even get lower. Don't kill your trade value if you need to unload him. He plays Buff, Cinn, and Cle in weeks 3-5 so he should be able to put up decent numbers vs. those teams. If you are convinced he's a bust - and one week is not enough to convince me - at least let him pile up a couple of decent games before you trade him.
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It's nothing to do with how he performed on Sunday that leads me to think he's a bust, and I think he has the talent to be a top 5 RB for years to come. What convinces me that he will never live up to that is the fact that Belichick keeps up his insistence on using scrub role RBs and not really letting any one back have signifigant value regardless of superior talent. I thought it would be different given that it's the first time he has used a 1st rounder on a RB and thought he would lean on Maroney as a true workhorse, but seeing the way week one is shaping up, and in retrospect the way Belichick has historically used backs, I was obviously very wrong. To the people making snide comments, I have no intention of giving him away and will only do it if I get reasonable value, but I think right now may be sell high time.You would think he should bust out with those 3 easy games after next week, but I also thought he would do that this week against a bad run defense too. All astute owners will also think he should do well in those games, and it comes down to what if he doesn't? What if Belichick continues to use Evans to vulture TDs and Morris to steal a large number of carries? If he doesn't break out in those games, I have a full fledged bust on my hands that I can no longer trade for anything close to what he probably can get right now.
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That seems reasonable, but then why wouldn't you wait until next week to trade him? Wait until after the Chargers game, and if he has a good game this week, you can get more for him. If he has a bad week, there'll be a bunch of vultures looking to pick him off of you right before the supposed sweetspot in his schedule. They'll try to lowball you as first, but if you hold firm, at least one of them will have read some article somewhere saying now's the time to get Maroney and will be dying to get him so badly they'll overpay. Also, you may find an owner looking to "sell high" on a couple guys that have been doing better than expected, and buy low on Maroney. If you feel strongly that Maroney will do poorly this season, let that guy rationalize why he's trading away two crappy guys who've overperformed for one good guy who's underperformed.
 
I've been on this board for a few years now but I definitely do not remember the doom and gloom that this year had brought. Sure, as is the case every season, there will be a few first round busts but I can't believe that the OP is already saying that his season is done. If this is your attitude please quit now as your doing a disservice to your league.'

A big part of being a good fantasy player is keeping an eye on the waiver wire and getting some surprise talent. Keep your eyes open. What if Maroney goes for 100+ yds and a TD? I'll tune in on Monday to see (and get a good laugh).

 
bostonfred said:
That seems reasonable, but then why wouldn't you wait until next week to trade him? Wait until after the Chargers game, and if he has a good game this week, you can get more for him. If he has a bad week, there'll be a bunch of vultures looking to pick him off of you right before the supposed sweetspot in his schedule. They'll try to lowball you as first, but if you hold firm, at least one of them will have read some article somewhere saying now's the time to get Maroney and will be dying to get him so badly they'll overpay. Also, you may find an owner looking to "sell high" on a couple guys that have been doing better than expected, and buy low on Maroney. If you feel strongly that Maroney will do poorly this season, let that guy rationalize why he's trading away two crappy guys who've overperformed for one good guy who's underperformed.
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Mainly, because he probably performs poorly in the Chargers game. They made the Bears and their decent running game/o-line look awful, so probably do the same to the Pats. 2 straight bad games will reduce his value.
 
bostonfred said:
jdh79 said:
jdoggydogg said:
jdh79 said:
Cerwin said:
It's.been.one.week.
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It has been just one week, but I think I have seen enough of Maroney to be convinced that he is a total bust this year and as long as he plays for the Patriots he will never be worthy of his current perceived value. Evans and Cooley also had terrible weeks but I am not jumping off the truck on them because I think those were flukey, but Maroney I think is cooked.
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His value is low, and after the San Diego game, it may even get lower. Don't kill your trade value if you need to unload him. He plays Buff, Cinn, and Cle in weeks 3-5 so he should be able to put up decent numbers vs. those teams. If you are convinced he's a bust - and one week is not enough to convince me - at least let him pile up a couple of decent games before you trade him.
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It's nothing to do with how he performed on Sunday that leads me to think he's a bust, and I think he has the talent to be a top 5 RB for years to come. What convinces me that he will never live up to that is the fact that Belichick keeps up his insistence on using scrub role RBs and not really letting any one back have signifigant value regardless of superior talent. I thought it would be different given that it's the first time he has used a 1st rounder on a RB and thought he would lean on Maroney as a true workhorse, but seeing the way week one is shaping up, and in retrospect the way Belichick has historically used backs, I was obviously very wrong. To the people making snide comments, I have no intention of giving him away and will only do it if I get reasonable value, but I think right now may be sell high time.You would think he should bust out with those 3 easy games after next week, but I also thought he would do that this week against a bad run defense too. All astute owners will also think he should do well in those games, and it comes down to what if he doesn't? What if Belichick continues to use Evans to vulture TDs and Morris to steal a large number of carries? If he doesn't break out in those games, I have a full fledged bust on my hands that I can no longer trade for anything close to what he probably can get right now.
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That seems reasonable, but then why wouldn't you wait until next week to trade him? Wait until after the Chargers game, and if he has a good game this week, you can get more for him. If he has a bad week, there'll be a bunch of vultures looking to pick him off of you right before the supposed sweetspot in his schedule. They'll try to lowball you as first, but if you hold firm, at least one of them will have read some article somewhere saying now's the time to get Maroney and will be dying to get him so badly they'll overpay. Also, you may find an owner looking to "sell high" on a couple guys that have been doing better than expected, and buy low on Maroney. If you feel strongly that Maroney will do poorly this season, let that guy rationalize why he's trading away two crappy guys who've overperformed for one good guy who's underperformed.
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The reason *I* say "it's only been one week" is that you may or may not have noticed that Maroney had a career high in carries this week -- after coming off of a limited preseason where he had very VERY little time to get into regular season mode. I promise you this: the next time Maroney gets 20 (or more) carries there will be 100 yards and a touchdown involved. While BB does use some situational backs, more importantly he uses lots of backs because he knows the value of running the ball. Maroney will benefit from that in the end. Top 5 is a longshot, but I'd bank on top 10. Mr. D
 
jdh79 said:
jdoggydogg said:
jdh79 said:
Cerwin said:
It's.been.one.week.
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It has been just one week, but I think I have seen enough of Maroney to be convinced that he is a total bust this year and as long as he plays for the Patriots he will never be worthy of his current perceived value. Evans and Cooley also had terrible weeks but I am not jumping off the truck on them because I think those were flukey, but Maroney I think is cooked.
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His value is low, and after the San Diego game, it may even get lower. Don't kill your trade value if you need to unload him. He plays Buff, Cinn, and Cle in weeks 3-5 so he should be able to put up decent numbers vs. those teams. If you are convinced he's a bust - and one week is not enough to convince me - at least let him pile up a couple of decent games before you trade him.
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It's nothing to do with how he performed on Sunday that leads me to think he's a bust, and I think he has the talent to be a top 5 RB for years to come. What convinces me that he will never live up to that is the fact that Belichick keeps up his insistence on using scrub role RBs and not really letting any one back have signifigant value regardless of superior talent. I thought it would be different given that it's the first time he has used a 1st rounder on a RB and thought he would lean on Maroney as a true workhorse, but seeing the way week one is shaping up, and in retrospect the way Belichick has historically used backs, I was obviously very wrong. To the people making snide comments, I have no intention of giving him away and will only do it if I get reasonable value, but I think right now may be sell high time.You would think he should bust out with those 3 easy games after next week, but I also thought he would do that this week against a bad run defense too. All astute owners will also think he should do well in those games, and it comes down to what if he doesn't? What if Belichick continues to use Evans to vulture TDs and Morris to steal a large number of carries? If he doesn't break out in those games, I have a full fledged bust on my hands that I can no longer trade for anything close to what he probably can get right now.
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Although it may appear as panic, i do not think his logic is so far off. I stayed away from him in my auction league for the same reason posted above. BB is the king of mixing it up. His WR's have always shared the load, it is not that far fetched to believe he wants Maroney fresh in the 4th quarter and will always share the carriers and 3rd dowm options with a mix of players. I jst don't see anybody serious about FF giving you percieved fair value week 1. Anyone looking to trade for him is going to looking to fleece you on the fear factor that he will under perform his ADP. I agree with the poster above that says if you truely want to unload him, wait until after the Browns and Bengals games. He should give you some more fire power, if he doesn't, you should still stand on the fact that he is Maroney and you have no intentions of giving him away.
 
Am I selling him too short if I ask for Fitzgerald and Cutler?

YES!

I have fitz and if Matt doesn't start throwing the ball like a MAN and not like the girl scout who tossed me the 3 boxes of cookies I bought last month, Fitz is in trouble. Every pass looked liked he was tossing batting practice to the DevilRays! i can't think of a straight up WR for Maroney trade I would like to make in a dynasty league

The concern about Whiz running a conservsative offense looked right on the money this week.

Cutler?

I just don't see Skelator ever running a wide open offense that puts Cutler in the top 5 for QB's. He has Henry for a couple of years, and i think he will alway play ball control offense espicially since Cutler is lacking a superstart WR to put him in the elite status.

 
mcjc4 said:
Although it may appear as panic, i do not think his logic is so far off. I stayed away from him in my auction league for the same reason posted above. BB is the king of mixing it up. His WR's have always shared the load, it is not that far fetched to believe he wants Maroney fresh in the 4th quarter and will always share the carriers and 3rd dowm options with a mix of players.
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I stayed away from him in 2 dynasty startups and a redraft for the very same reasons. I do not feel he will ever really shine in that system. He'll get a 100 yard game here or there, but he won't justify that 5-9 slot he was drafted at in dynasty startups this past summer.1st and goal at the 2. Who scores the TD? For most teams, the answer is probably between three or four usual suspects (at least most of the time). For the Pats, it's like ten guys.
 
jdh79 said:
I drafted Maroney 7th overall in a dynasty draft with LT, SJax, Addai, Gore, LJ and Bush off the board because I figured with his age and situation he was the best long term bet of any of the remaining players. This appears to be a huge mistake, as I obviously underestimated the amount Belichick would use Morris, Evans, Faulk, etc. Maroney looks like a marginal #2 RB.Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no way I can compete this season and want to position myself for next year and to hopefully get a top 4 pick. I also drafted Vince Young in rd 6 not knowing that the scoring was 0.5 pt/completion. I inexplicably missed that point scouring over the league rules page. Since top passing QBs are logging 50+ pt games and outscoring everyone else by 20+ and Young is getting me nice 13 pt crap efforts, I feel I am even more baked for this year.I want to trade Maroney before his perceived value falls further. I think he may be this year's Cadillac Williams, who was drafted in the first last year before losing most of his value before the end of the year and being barely a 4th rounder in this year's dynasty draft. What is a fair price to get for him? Am I selling him too short if I ask for Fitzgerald and Cutler?It's a PPR league, 0.5 pt per completion, -4 pts for picks, 6 pts for passing and rushing TDs 20/10 yardage. We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE and 1 RB/WR/TE flex.Here is the disaster that I drafted:QB: Young, EManning, Grossman, LeftwichRB: Maroney, Portis, McAllister, Betts, CBrown, Pittman, SMorris, SYoung, KKeithWR: SSmith, Evans, Berrian, Hackett, Porter, Crayton, DemWilliams, RWhiteTE: Cooley, HEvansK: MareD: Broncos
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If you get cold feet that fast, you shouldn't play dynasty. That's like saying the Bills should cut bail w/ Lynch's performance over the pre-season. Get out now and let someone else take over your team that has the stomach for it.
 
jdh79 said:
.Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no way I can compete this season and want to position myself for next Here is the disaster that I drafted:QB: Young, EManning, Grossman, LeftwichRB: Maroney, Portis, McAllister, Betts, CBrown, Pittman, SMorris, SYoung, KKeithWR: SSmith, Evans, Berrian, Hackett, Porter, Crayton, DemWilliams, RWhiteTE: Cooley, HEvansK: MareD: Broncos
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:lmao: This team won't be competitive? What's it an 8 team league? Disaster?....jeez, I'll take this team over for you.
 
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Today I was offered Maroney for Lynch straight up. ppr redraft. While I haven't been drinking the Maroney kool-aid, I don't know why I haven't accepted this offer yet.

I think we can all agree that Maroney's value has dropped down the board. I think he has droped down to middle second or early 3rd round pick value.

Yes its only week one, but by week 3 most of all the good buys will be off the shelf.

 
I just traded Deuce for Bowe and a 1st rd pick next year. I think I will hold onto Maroney for now. I traded Deuce because Chris Brown looks like he could be a competent back, and because Deuce is 29, and probably just continues to slowly lose value to Bush over the next few years. Since my team is clearly not capable of doing anything this season, I don't need him anyway and he may cause me to go 6-8 instead of say 4-10 and lose draft slots.

I just have to hope the guy I traded him to underperforms and gives me a second high 1st rounder.

 
Neo said:
jdh79 said:
.Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no way I can compete this season and want to position myself for next Here is the disaster that I drafted:QB: Young, EManning, Grossman, LeftwichRB: Maroney, Portis, McAllister, Betts, CBrown, Pittman, SMorris, SYoung, KKeithWR: SSmith, Evans, Berrian, Hackett, Porter, Crayton, DemWilliams, RWhiteTE: Cooley, HEvansK: MareD: Broncos
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:lmao: This team won't be competitive? What's it an 8 team league? Disaster?....jeez, I'll take this team over for you.
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I can't see how I can be competitive for this year. I lack a competent QB for the scoring system (0.5 pts/completion) and that is going to give me a 20 pt deficit at that position weekly. I also don't have an acceptable #1 or 2 RB or #3 WR. BTW, it is a 12 team league, 20 keepers.The other team won't do Maroney for Cutler and Fitzgerald. He is demanding that I give him Maroney and Evans for them, which obviously is ridiculous and not happening.
 
jdh79 said:
jdoggydogg said:
jdh79 said:
Cerwin said:
It's.been.one.week.
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It has been just one week, but I think I have seen enough of Maroney to be convinced that he is a total bust this year and as long as he plays for the Patriots he will never be worthy of his current perceived value. Evans and Cooley also had terrible weeks but I am not jumping off the truck on them because I think those were flukey, but Maroney I think is cooked.
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His value is low, and after the San Diego game, it may even get lower. Don't kill your trade value if you need to unload him. He plays Buff, Cinn, and Cle in weeks 3-5 so he should be able to put up decent numbers vs. those teams. If you are convinced he's a bust - and one week is not enough to convince me - at least let him pile up a couple of decent games before you trade him.
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It's nothing to do with how he performed on Sunday that leads me to think he's a bust, and I think he has the talent to be a top 5 RB for years to come. What convinces me that he will never live up to that is the fact that Belichick keeps up his insistence on using scrub role RBs and not really letting any one back have signifigant value regardless of superior talent. I thought it would be different given that it's the first time he has used a 1st rounder on a RB and thought he would lean on Maroney as a true workhorse, but seeing the way week one is shaping up, and in retrospect the way Belichick has historically used backs, I was obviously very wrong. To the people making snide comments, I have no intention of giving him away and will only do it if I get reasonable value, but I think right now may be sell high time.You would think he should bust out with those 3 easy games after next week, but I also thought he would do that this week against a bad run defense too. All astute owners will also think he should do well in those games, and it comes down to what if he doesn't? What if Belichick continues to use Evans to vulture TDs and Morris to steal a large number of carries? If he doesn't break out in those games, I have a full fledged bust on my hands that I can no longer trade for anything close to what he probably can get right now.
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he doesnt keep doing anything. he's only had one game to utilize these players. But it was a huge blowout, so first of all there wasnt a need to overwork LM. Second, the guy hardly played in the preseason. BB is going to work him in slowly the first couple of weeks. If youre gonna trade him, atleast wait a couple of weeks for Maroney to have a decent game. Right now, if you try to move him, youll have absolutely NO leverage and the owner on the other end of the deal will think youre desperate to make a move. Give it a little time. The more New England wins, the more valuable LM will be.
 
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The more New England wins, the more valuable LM will be.
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I disagree with that, because as BB has shown this week, as soon as he gets a 2 TD lead (which is going to happen a lot with their quality defense and explosive offense), Maroney gets pulled. Milking the clock with a lead is when most fantasy RBs earn their keep. If Maroney can't do that on a team that will play with the lead more often than not and still gets spelled frequently even when the game is close, how can he ever be a true #1 fantasy back?
 
jdh79 said:
Neo said:
jdh79 said:
.Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no way I can compete this season and want to position myself for next Here is the disaster that I drafted:QB: Young, EManning, Grossman, LeftwichRB: Maroney, Portis, McAllister, Betts, CBrown, Pittman, SMorris, SYoung, KKeithWR: SSmith, Evans, Berrian, Hackett, Porter, Crayton, DemWilliams, RWhiteTE: Cooley, HEvansK: MareD: Broncos
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:lmao: This team won't be competitive? What's it an 8 team league? Disaster?....jeez, I'll take this team over for you.
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I can't see how I can be competitive for this year. I lack a competent QB for the scoring system (0.5 pts/completion) and that is going to give me a 20 pt deficit at that position weekly. I also don't have an acceptable #1 or 2 RB or #3 WR. BTW, it is a 12 team league, 20 keepers.The other team won't do Maroney for Cutler and Fitzgerald. He is demanding that I give him Maroney and Evans for them, which obviously is ridiculous and not happening.
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:bag: :fishy: :fishy: :fishy:Berrian is a horrible WR3...you're right.
 
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jdh79 said:
Neo said:
jdh79 said:
.Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no way I can compete this season and want to position myself for next Here is the disaster that I drafted:QB: Young, EManning, Grossman, LeftwichRB: Maroney, Portis, McAllister, Betts, CBrown, Pittman, SMorris, SYoung, KKeithWR: SSmith, Evans, Berrian, Hackett, Porter, Crayton, DemWilliams, RWhiteTE: Cooley, HEvansK: MareD: Broncos
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:shrug: This team won't be competitive? What's it an 8 team league? Disaster?....jeez, I'll take this team over for you.
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I can't see how I can be competitive for this year. I lack a competent QB for the scoring system (0.5 pts/completion) and that is going to give me a 20 pt deficit at that position weekly. I also don't have an acceptable #1 or 2 RB or #3 WR. BTW, it is a 12 team league, 20 keepers.The other team won't do Maroney for Cutler and Fitzgerald. He is demanding that I give him Maroney and Evans for them, which obviously is ridiculous and not happening.
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Why can't you be competitive?? Your team looks fine, your RBs are slightly weak, but not if Portis produces, you have the best WR. Lee Evans had a bad week but will start to put up some numbers, and Berrian is a solid #3. Your TEs are pretty strong, you have Jason Campbell's favorite target, and HEvans is a good bye week fill in.Don't panic, you have a solid enough team to make a run for a playoff slot
 
thayman said:
jdh79 said:
Neo said:
jdh79 said:
.Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no way I can compete this season and want to position myself for next Here is the disaster that I drafted:QB: Young, EManning, Grossman, LeftwichRB: Maroney, Portis, McAllister, Betts, CBrown, Pittman, SMorris, SYoung, KKeithWR: SSmith, Evans, Berrian, Hackett, Porter, Crayton, DemWilliams, RWhiteTE: Cooley, HEvansK: MareD: Broncos
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:shrug: This team won't be competitive? What's it an 8 team league? Disaster?....jeez, I'll take this team over for you.
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I can't see how I can be competitive for this year. I lack a competent QB for the scoring system (0.5 pts/completion) and that is going to give me a 20 pt deficit at that position weekly. I also don't have an acceptable #1 or 2 RB or #3 WR. BTW, it is a 12 team league, 20 keepers.The other team won't do Maroney for Cutler and Fitzgerald. He is demanding that I give him Maroney and Evans for them, which obviously is ridiculous and not happening.
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Why can't you be competitive?? Your team looks fine, your RBs are slightly weak, but not if Portis produces, you have the best WR. Lee Evans had a bad week but will start to put up some numbers, and Berrian is a solid #3. Your TEs are pretty strong, you have Jason Campbell's favorite target, and HEvans is a good bye week fill in.Don't panic, you have a solid enough team to make a run for a playoff slot
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Eli will give you good points if he stays healthy. There is no structure damage and as a Giants fan, he better play through the pain. I can understand your view on Maroney, I won't knock that but to say you won't be competitive, especially in a 12 team leauge, don't bail yet. I totally agree with thayman, plus Crayton may surprise if Glenn is out an extended period.
 
jdh79 said:
twitch said:
The more New England wins, the more valuable LM will be.
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I disagree with that, because as BB has shown this week, as soon as he gets a 2 TD lead (which is going to happen a lot with their quality defense and explosive offense), Maroney gets pulled. Milking the clock with a lead is when most fantasy RBs earn their keep. If Maroney can't do that on a team that will play with the lead more often than not and still gets spelled frequently even when the game is close, how can he ever be a true #1 fantasy back?
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dude, it was ONE week. I agree that theyll mix the other guys in, but youre taking far too much from one blowout win. again, Maroney played ONE preseason game, and wore a red jersey all thoroughout camp. dont jump the gun. if youre gonna bail on the guy, Im not here to talk you out of that. But Id atleast like to see you get some value for him.
 
So here is the best offer I have for Maroney so far:

I get:

Cadillac Williams

Dwayne Jarrett

His 1st and 2nd rd picks next year

I am leaning heavily toward accepting this, because his team has only ASmith and Pennington at QB, plus Peterson and Lynch as RB1 and RB2 as well as Calvin Johson, Santonio Holmes and Devery Henderson as his starting WRs. I think there is a pretty good chance his team sucks and this gets me a top 3 pick. Yes, Maroney is an upgrade for him, but probably wouldn't score that much more than Cadillac or JJones would at that spot, especially if he is the bust I am convinced he would be.

Is this enough of a return?

 
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