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What is Aaron Brooks' value in dynasty? (1 Viewer)

redman

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No, I don't own him in any leagues but I was trying to work out what Andrew Walter was worth going into this season and in doing so was pondering Brooks.

He certainly has his shortcomings as a QB - relatively low completion % for this era and he's been prone to mistakes at critical times in ball games, but I'm having trouble understanding how there isn't a spot anywhere for a guy with these numbers:

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+---------------------------------------+-----------------+				 |			  Passing				  |	 Rushing	 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| Year  TM |   G |  Comp   Att   PCT	YD   Y/A  TD INT |  Att  Yards  TD |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| 2000 nor |   8 |   113   194  58.2  1514   7.8   9   6 |	41   170   2 || 2001 nor |  16 |   312   558  55.9  3832   6.9  26  22 |	80   358   1 || 2002 nor |  16 |   283   528  53.6  3572   6.8  27  15 |	61   256   2 || 2003 nor |  16 |   306   518  59.1  3546   6.8  24   8 |	54   175   2 || 2004 nor |  16 |   309   542  57.0  3810   7.0  21  16 |	58   173   4 || 2005 nor |  13 |   240   431  55.7  2882   6.7  13  17 |	45   281   2 || 2006 oak |   8 |   110   192  57.3  1105   5.8   3   8 |	22   124   0 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+|  TOTAL   |  93 |  1673  2963  56.5 20261   6.8 123  92 |   361  1537  13 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
I also got to thinking along these lines and remembered that I'd always wondered about that very thing regarding Jeff Blake, and I then looked up his career numbers and was struck by their similarity to Brooks:
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+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| Year  TM |   G |  Comp   Att   PCT	YD   Y/A  TD INT |  Att  Yards  TD |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| 1992 nyj |   3 |	 4	 9  44.4	40   4.4   0   1 |	 2	-2   0 || 1994 cin |  10 |   156   306  51.0  2154   7.0  14   9 |	37   204   1 || 1995 cin |  16 |   326   567  57.5  3822   6.7  28  17 |	53   309   2 || 1996 cin |  16 |   308   549  56.1  3624   6.6  24  14 |	72   317   2 || 1997 cin |  11 |   184   317  58.0  2125   6.7   8   7 |	45   234   3 || 1998 cin |   9 |	51	93  54.8   739   7.9   3   3 |	15   103   0 || 1999 cin |  14 |   215   389  55.3  2670   6.9  16  12 |	63   332   2 || 2000 nor |  11 |   184   302  60.9  2025   6.7  13   9 |	57   243   1 || 2001 nor |   1 |	 0	 1   0.0	 0   0.0   0   0 |	 1	-1   0 || 2002 bal |  10 |   165   295  55.9  2084   7.1  13  11 |	39   106   1 || 2003 ari |  13 |   208   367  56.7  2247   6.1  13  15 |	30   177   2 || 2004 phi |   3 |	18	37  48.6   126   3.4   1   1 |	 3	 6   0 || 2005 chi |   3 |	 8	 9  88.9	55   6.1   1   0 |	 1	-1   0 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+|  TOTAL   | 120 |  1827  3241  56.4 21711   6.7 134  99 |   418  2027  14 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
I've followed neither guy all that closely, so I'm just sort of thinking out loud here but why is it that they've not been able to start for even the worst teams in the league even after having posted such good numbers early on in their careers? The QB position in particular has a very long shelf-life and learning curve. :lmao:
 
He has no leadership skills, nothing sense of urgency late in the game, and doesn't care if he's losing. No team would want this guy even if he threw it like Peyton Manning.

 
Some of this comes down to roster size and philosophy. I would like him to drafting a 3rd round (NFL draft) QB or WR. You should never draft these guys unless you are willing to keep them on your roster for 2-3 years. If you don't have the room or the patience, you should trade the pick for a player- because you can't expect dividends before then. Brooks is a back-up who will have zero value unless the starter gets hurt or sucks. Then he would have more value than most guys on the waiver wire. Unfortunately, at that moment, unless your team sucks, you can't draft him.

I think if you are a team with a legit shot to win now, you can't carry him. However, if you are in rebuilding mode and hoping to get a high pick next year- he is the perfect guy to carry. He makes you team worse because he doesn't score- but he could have trade valuse if he starts playing. HE is a dangerous player to overvalue though because he is much worse in the NFL than his fantasy stats would indicate.

 
He's going to be a roster space casualty when our Dynasty League starts its rookie draft. Each year we must drop 3 players before our 3 round rookie draft.

Right now I think his only value would be as a handcuff to a starting QB incase of injury. At this point he is not on a team, so his value is zero.

 
His value is the same as the chopper pilot's nickname in We Were Soldiers.
I don't think so. He has screwed up a lot but also made a lot of good plays. Last year in Oakland was not a good measure of talent. Someone may pick him thinking they can fix what's wrong. There are worse QB's starting in the league.
 
He's going to be a roster space casualty when our Dynasty League starts its rookie draft. Each year we must drop 3 players before our 3 round rookie draft.Right now I think his only value would be as a handcuff to a starting QB incase of injury. At this point he is not on a team, so his value is zero.
This is the thing: part of dynasty is increasing the value of your team. He will likely be on waivers after rookie drafts, or cost next to zero. If you have a spot to burn, his value could go up if/when he finds a team. You could perhaps trade him immediately for a 3rd/4th round rookie pick as a handcuff. Clearly though, you would need a deep roster or actively be trying not to win now.
 
His value is the same as the chopper pilot's nickname in We Were Soldiers.
I don't think so. He has screwed up a lot but also made a lot of good plays. Last year in Oakland was not a good measure of talent. Someone may pick him thinking they can fix what's wrong. There are worse QB's starting in the league.
I don't believe you. Do you have any supporting evidence?
 
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He's going to be a roster space casualty when our Dynasty League starts its rookie draft. Each year we must drop 3 players before our 3 round rookie draft.Right now I think his only value would be as a handcuff to a starting QB incase of injury. At this point he is not on a team, so his value is zero.
This is the thing: part of dynasty is increasing the value of your team. He will likely be on waivers after rookie drafts, or cost next to zero. If you have a spot to burn, his value could go up if/when he finds a team. You could perhaps trade him immediately for a 3rd/4th round rookie pick as a handcuff. Clearly though, you would need a deep roster or actively be trying not to win now.
Right now he doesn't cost me anything to keep on my 25 man roster. Right now I have a spot to burn on him until we have our 3 round rookie draft in August. You can't trade him immediately for a 3rd round rookie pick because he has no handcuff and thus no value. If he doesn't find a team by the time we have our rookie draft, his value is zero and my team gets more value out of a rookie draft pick.
 
His value is the same as the chopper pilot's nickname in We Were Soldiers.
I don't think so. He has screwed up a lot but also made a lot of good plays. Last year in Oakland was not a good measure of talent. Someone may pick him thinking they can fix what's wrong. There are worse QB's starting in the league.
You can't say that without actually giving at least two examples.
 
His value is the same as the chopper pilot's nickname in We Were Soldiers.
I don't think so. He has screwed up a lot but also made a lot of good plays. Last year in Oakland was not a good measure of talent. Someone may pick him thinking they can fix what's wrong. There are worse QB's starting in the league.
You can't say that without actually giving at least two examples.
IMO:D. Anderson/FryeLemon/CpepT. JacksonD. Huard
 
He's going to be a roster space casualty when our Dynasty League starts its rookie draft. Each year we must drop 3 players before our 3 round rookie draft.Right now I think his only value would be as a handcuff to a starting QB incase of injury. At this point he is not on a team, so his value is zero.
This is the thing: part of dynasty is increasing the value of your team. He will likely be on waivers after rookie drafts, or cost next to zero. If you have a spot to burn, his value could go up if/when he finds a team. You could perhaps trade him immediately for a 3rd/4th round rookie pick as a handcuff. Clearly though, you would need a deep roster or actively be trying not to win now.
Right now he doesn't cost me anything to keep on my 25 man roster. Right now I have a spot to burn on him until we have our 3 round rookie draft in August. You can't trade him immediately for a 3rd round rookie pick because he has no handcuff and thus no value. If he doesn't find a team by the time we have our rookie draft, his value is zero and my team gets more value out of a rookie draft pick.
Well then, you wouldn't fit into the category of "have a roster spot to burn". It is possible for a player to have value, but not be on your team. This reminds me a bit of the Damon Hurad situation last year. Many smart posters said- "He is a journeyman and not worth carrying." However, once injuries started to crop up/some veterans got benched- he did have some value. If you waited to grab him before he was worth something, it may have been too late. If you think that he is not going to get picked up by anyone, then he is correctly worth zero. If you think he might get picked up by someone, then he will likely be worth something. Whether that something is worth more than what you have/cab have on the bottom of your roster will vary from team to team.
 
i'd rather have a pack of doritos... the small kind that come from a vending machine...

seriously, if he were to go someplace with a shaky QB situation where he was expected #2, he could somehow get another starting job... but i would trade him when his value was higher it that opportunity presented itself... actually, on a team with a good OL & WRs, there isn't an obvious reason where he couldn't recapture some of what he had in NO... but i'm not holding my breath...

 
Never thought I'd see Brooks mentioned here again...

...nevermind dedicating a thread to him.

I'd rather have FOSTER Brooks.

 
Agree with most of the above. Unless you have roster limits of 30, no reason to keep/draft him. He did have his moments in New Orleans - a very athletic QB.

 
His value is the same as the chopper pilot's nickname in We Were Soldiers.
I don't think so. He has screwed up a lot but also made a lot of good plays. Last year in Oakland was not a good measure of talent. Someone may pick him thinking they can fix what's wrong. There are worse QB's starting in the league.
I don't think many NFL GMs would be willing to try to 'fix' him at this point. Much easier to draft a QB and try to mold him than try to modify a 7 year vet who's acquired bad habits.
 
I think he has his uses. Didn't Brooks replace Blake in NO?

I could see him as a backup on a team which has an athletic QB and is looking for a #2 or depth. Atlanta, maybe behind Vick.

 
I think he has his uses. Didn't Brooks replace Blake in NO?I could see him as a backup on a team which has an athletic QB and is looking for a #2 or depth. Atlanta, maybe behind Vick.
I see this too, so long as he can handle being No. 2 behind his cousin ...
 

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