What is Domanick Davis worth? (1 Viewer)

[Drifter]

Assuming the Texans go with Bush (I think they have to tons of talent and character to go with it), what is Domanick Davis worth in terms of Draft picks?Talented back, some durability problems.Late 1st? 2nd? 3rd?

 

[Phlash]

I have no problem with them trading him to to the Patriots for our 2nd round pick as long as we get a 4th or 5th back as well.

 

[Big]

i think 2nd or 3rd rounder. he is good, but not terribly unique by NFL standards.

 

[Z-Dog]

A 4th rounder? Certainly not a 2nd... most GMs would prefer to draft this year's model of Julius Jones, Clinton Portis, Lamont Jordan, or even Travis Henry to getting a somewhat used Domanick Davis. After all, DDavis will never be truly great, but a 2nd rounder could be. I don't think a 3rd-rounder either. I mean, how many teams out there really need an RB so much that they'd give up a starter for DD? Because that's what a 3rd rounder should be - a starter. No, I'd guess a 4th-rounder, at best.

 

[diesel7982]

Hes not going anywhere. They just shelled out the money for him, and hes cost more to trade than to keep. It would be stupid to trade him away.This isnt Madden.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Agreed. They'd still have to take the cap hit for his signing bonus, he hasn't stayed even as healthy as fragile Fred the last couple years, and teams wouldn't give up draft picks for Edge or anyone else last year (excluding the Jets debacle w/ the Raiders and Jolley).

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I have no problem with them trading him to to the Patriots for our 2nd round pick as long as we get a 4th or 5th back as well.

Ya right... it's not like the Pats just paid huge coin to Corey Dillon last offseason.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Can we start a Davis to the Vikings for Culpepper rumor yet??

 

[dgreen]

DDavis will never be truly great

I've never watched a full Houston Texans game and can't say that I'm a DD expert, so I really don't know how good he is. But, one argument people make against Bush being a ff star is that he'll be on such a bad offense if he goes to Houston. From that argument, people say Houston should trade the pick and take OL since they're so bad. Houston having a pathetic offense is something I think we can all agree on. So, based only on that info, I'm actually impressed with DD. He has put up some solid numbers considering he's playing on a crappy offense. Does DD just need a better offense around him to be considered a top back in this league? If he goes to NE, for example, could he rack up 2000 yards of offense and 15 TDs?

 

[coolnerd]

DDavis will never be truly great

I've never watched a full Houston Texans game and can't say that I'm a DD expert, so I really don't know how good he is. But, one argument people make against Bush being a ff star is that he'll be on such a bad offense if he goes to Houston. From that argument, people say Houston should trade the pick and take OL since they're so bad. Houston having a pathetic offense is something I think we can all agree on. So, based only on that info, I'm actually impressed with DD. He has put up some solid numbers considering he's playing on a crappy offense. Does DD just need a better offense around him to be considered a top back in this league? If he goes to NE, for example, could he rack up 2000 yards of offense and 15 TDs?

The previous Houston staff funneled the offense through the RB. Davis put the numbers he did often gtting 30+ touches a game. IMO, he was one of the only Texans player whose situation allowed him to get the most out his talent.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

He's cheap, and if they draft Bush, they're going to need someone to share the load. I highly doubt that they would trade him anywhere as it's doubtful they could get equal value.The Texans should keep him, let Carr walk and draft Vince Young (assuming he declares).

 

[Marc Levin]

Assuming the Texans go with Bush (I think they have to tons of talent and character to go with it), what is Domanick Davis worth in terms of Draft picks?

Talented back, some durability problems.

Late 1st? 2nd? 3rd?

They keep him until next year.Backs have not been getting much in return for picks - one third, maybe.

 

[David Yudkin]

There was a thread this week already where Houston was talking about using Davis next year as the primary back with Bush being utilized like a Brian Westbrook. Houston apparently felt that Bush couldn't handle 20-25 or more touches a game and were talking about getting him like 15 or so a game.

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Perhaps it has to do more with how much they would have commanded as far as salaries go, but if teams wouldn't part with a 2nd rounder for Edgerrin James or Shaun Alexander during last off-season I don't think teams will give up anything higher than a 3rd for Domanick Davis.

 

[dgreen]

DDavis will never be truly great

I've never watched a full Houston Texans game and can't say that I'm a DD expert, so I really don't know how good he is. But, one argument people make against Bush being a ff star is that he'll be on such a bad offense if he goes to Houston. From that argument, people say Houston should trade the pick and take OL since they're so bad. Houston having a pathetic offense is something I think we can all agree on. So, based only on that info, I'm actually impressed with DD. He has put up some solid numbers considering he's playing on a crappy offense. Does DD just need a better offense around him to be considered a top back in this league? If he goes to NE, for example, could he rack up 2000 yards of offense and 15 TDs?

The previous Houston staff funneled the offense through the RB. Davis put the numbers he did often gtting 30+ touches a game. IMO, he was one of the only Texans player whose situation allowed him to get the most out his talent.

Looks like over his career he averaged 23.1 touches for almost 112 yards per game.He's averaging 4.1 yds/att with that poor OL.

Either he's a pretty darn good RB or maybe "poor OL" only refers to their pass protection and not their run blocking.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Perhaps it has to do more with how much they would have commanded as far as salaries go, but if teams wouldn't part with a 2nd rounder for Edgerrin James or Shaun Alexander during last off-season I don't think teams will give up anything higher than a 3rd for Domanick Davis.

I still think it was stupid for teams to not give up a 2nd rounder for either James or Alexander. How many 2nd rounders panned out last year?

 

[tattoofan]

He's cheap, and if they draft Bush, they're going to need someone to share the load. I highly doubt that they would trade him anywhere as it's doubtful they could get equal value.

The Texans should keep him, let Carr walk and draft Vince Young (assuming he declares).

I'll second that. Can we get a third?

 

[AB in DC]

Folks, DDavis is basically untradeable because of the salary cap hit. I just can't see Casserly saddling a new coach with all that dead money.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

There was a thread this week already where Houston was talking about using Davis next year as the primary back with Bush being utilized like a Brian Westbrook. Houston apparently felt that Bush couldn't handle 20-25 or more touches a game and were talking about getting him like 15 or so a game.

There gonna use a #1 pick on a guy they dont think can cary the load? #1 picks better be worth more than 15 plays a game.IMO, Houston would be killing themselves cap-wise if they draft Bush....they just tied DD up and would shell out a huge contract for Bush. It makes no sense for them to draft Bush...its asking for a Brees-Rivers deal, and its worse because they know DD is an above average starting RB whom they cant move.

Texans need to draft Young or trade down.

 

[zamboni]

A 4th rounder? Certainly not a 2nd... most GMs would prefer to draft this year's model of Julius Jones, Clinton Portis, Lamont Jordan, or even Travis Henry to getting a somewhat used Domanick Davis. After all, DDavis will never be truly great, but a 2nd rounder could be. I don't think a 3rd-rounder either. I mean, how many teams out there really need an RB so much that they'd give up a starter for DD? Because that's what a 3rd rounder should be - a starter. No, I'd guess a 4th-rounder, at best.

I tend to generally agree here. One has to separate fantasy value from NFL value. DD has a lot of fantasy football value (barring the addition of Bush), but from a true NFL perspective, despite him being a solid RB, he probably doesn't carry nearly as much value.

As we've seen, RBs tend to be much more interchangable/plug-and-play compared to other positions, and historically, only big-name RBs (e.g, Dillon, Faulk, Herschel Walker) have commanded that much compensation from other teams.

That, and the fact that NFL trades in general aren't all that common (compared with other sports) makes DD changing teams not particularly likely.

 

[godeepthreatz1]

He's cheap, and if they draft Bush, they're going to need someone to share the load.  I highly doubt that they would trade him anywhere as it's doubtful they could get equal value.

The Texans should keep him, let Carr walk and draft Vince Young (assuming he declares).

I'll second that. Can we get a third?

Either that scenerio or trade the pick for a package they would be ######ed to draft Bush IMO.

 

[coolnerd]

DDavis will never be truly great

I've never watched a full Houston Texans game and can't say that I'm a DD expert, so I really don't know how good he is. But, one argument people make against Bush being a ff star is that he'll be on such a bad offense if he goes to Houston. From that argument, people say Houston should trade the pick and take OL since they're so bad. Houston having a pathetic offense is something I think we can all agree on. So, based only on that info, I'm actually impressed with DD. He has put up some solid numbers considering he's playing on a crappy offense. Does DD just need a better offense around him to be considered a top back in this league? If he goes to NE, for example, could he rack up 2000 yards of offense and 15 TDs?

The previous Houston staff funneled the offense through the RB. Davis put the numbers he did often gtting 30+ touches a game. IMO, he was one of the only Texans player whose situation allowed him to get the most out his talent.

Looks like over his career he averaged 23.1 touches for almost 112 yards per game.He's averaging 4.1 yds/att with that poor OL.

Either he's a pretty darn good RB or maybe "poor OL" only refers to their pass protection and not their run blocking.

That is your answer.

 

[Gargoylez]

He's cheap, and if they draft Bush, they're going to need someone to share the load. I highly doubt that they would trade him anywhere as it's doubtful they could get equal value.

The Texans should keep him, let Carr walk and draft Vince Young (assuming he declares).

Yeah get rid of a QB that is struggling with a rookie run first QB. GREAT idea!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

He's cheap, and if they draft Bush, they're going to need someone to share the load.  I highly doubt that they would trade him anywhere as it's doubtful they could get equal value.

The Texans should keep him, let Carr walk and draft Vince Young (assuming he declares).

Yeah get rid of a QB that is struggling with a rookie run first QB. GREAT idea!

Holy cow. You're right. It's much better to stick with a struggling quarterback. <_<

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Hes not going anywhere. They just shelled out the money for him, and hes cost more to trade than to keep.

It would be stupid to trade him away.

This isnt Madden.

This thread should begin and end with this post....

 

[diesel7982]

Perhaps it has to do more with how much they would have commanded as far as salaries go, but if teams wouldn't part with a 2nd rounder for Edgerrin James or Shaun Alexander during last off-season I don't think teams will give up anything higher than a 3rd for Domanick Davis.

I still think it was stupid for teams to not give up a 2nd rounder for either James or Alexander. How many 2nd rounders panned out last year?

Trading for them means giving them a new contract. You want to pay an Edge or SA $15-18mil upfront?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Perhaps it has to do more with how much they would have commanded as far as salaries go, but if teams wouldn't part with a 2nd rounder for Edgerrin James or Shaun Alexander during last off-season I don't think teams will give up anything higher than a 3rd for Domanick Davis.

I still think it was stupid for teams to not give up a 2nd rounder for either James or Alexander. How many 2nd rounders panned out last year?

Trading for them means giving them a new contract. You want to pay an Edge or SA $15-18mil upfront?

For the productivity they give? Yes. Especially for a team like the Vikings who are $22-25 MILLION(!) under the cap.