What is the best team with a losing record? (1 Viewer)

[hutchins929]

Atlanta Falcons (2-3)

L Sep 11 ATL 12 @ CHI 30

W Sep 18 PHI 31 @ ATL 35

L Sep 25 ATL 13 @ TB 16

W Oct 02 ATL 30 @ SEA 28

L Oct 09 GB 25 @ ATL 14

New York Jets (2-3)

W Sep 11 DAL 24 @ NYJ 27

W Sep 18 JAC 3 @ NYJ 32

L Sep 25 NYJ 24 @ OAK 34

L Oct 02 NYJ 17 @ BAL 34

L Oct 09 NYJ 21 @ NE 30

Carolina Panthers (1-4)

L Sep 11 CAR 21 @ ARI 28

L Sep 18 GB 30 @ CAR 23

W Sep 25 JAC 10 @ CAR 16

L Oct 02 CAR 29 @ CHI 34

L Oct 09 NO 30 @ CAR 27

Philadelphia Eagles (1-4)

W Sep 11 PHI 31 @ STL 13

L Sep 18 PHI 31 @ ATL 35

L Sep 25 NYG 29 @ PHI 16

L Oct 02 SF 24 @ PHI 23

L Oct 09 PHI 24 @ BUF 31

Washington Redskins (3-1)

W Sep 11 NYG 14 @ WAS 28

W Sep 18 ARI 21 @ WAS 22

L Sep 26 WAS 16 @ DAL 18

W Oct 02 WAS 17 @ STL 10

Cincinnati Bengals (3-2)

W Sep 11 CIN 27 @ CLE 17

L Sep 18 CIN 22 @ DEN 24

L Sep 25 SF 13 @ CIN 8

W Oct 02 BUF 20 @ CIN 23

W Oct 09 CIN 30 @ JAC 20

New York Giants (3-2)

L Sep 11 NYG 14 @ WAS 28

W Sep 19 STL 16 @ NYG 28

W Sep 25 NYG 29 @ PHI 16

W Oct 02 NYG 31 @ ARI 27

L Oct 09 SEA 36 @ NYG 25

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (3-2)

L Sep 11 DET 27 @ TB 20

W Sep 18 TB 24 @ MIN 20

W Sep 25 ATL 13 @ TB 16

W Oct 03 IND 17 @ TB 24

L Oct 09 TB 3 @ SF 48

I'm sure I'm leaving out some candidates but that's what the other option is for.

 

[massraider]

Anyone picking Philly is still looking at a list of free agent moves, and not watching the games.

 

[Chase Stuart]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl11.htm

The Jets are still a top ten team in the league, they just managed to face a brutal schedule. Losing @NE and @Bal is what everyone seems to do: the Ravens have won 12 of their last 13 home games while Brady has won 30 straight home games. Going 2-1 in Oakland and home against Dallas and Jacksonville is hardly an indictment, either.

The Giants have faced an absurdly easy schedule, and deserve to be ridiculed for losing at home to a team that had lost 6 straight road games by double digits. And for sleepwalking through half of their wins against STL, PHI and ARI, while looking terrible against Washington. Still, even though Tampa's has a slightly harder schedule, it's hard to get over the fact that they've looked like ### for much of the season. So I'll go Tampa.

 

[massraider]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl11.htmThe Jets are still a top ten team in the league,

I was ready to question this, then I pulled up the standing and went division by division. I would say you are right.

 

[johnadams]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl11.htmThe Jets are still a top ten team in the league,

I was ready to question this, then I pulled up the standing and went division by division. I would say you are right.

Outside of a gift-wrapped win over DAL and a win against lowly JAX, all NYJ have done is demonstrate that they are not equipped to beat playoff caliber teams. I'm a bit distrustful of any ranking, regardless of the source, that has the NYJ five places in front of OAK, who beat them earlier. Breaking it down, they each have a loss to NE, which is a wash, NYJ has a loss to BAL which is one spot higher than OAK, so almost a wash. Both have a win over bottom feeding teams (NYJ over JAX, OAK over DEN). NYJ have a win over DAL, which has a fairly inflated SOS ranking at this point, while OAK has a similar, though not as strong according to this site's ranking, win over HOU. But the difference is that OAK has beaten NYJ head to head, but somehow, NYJ are five spots ahead? I appreciate the effort to bring mathematical rankings into play, blending binary win/loss rankings with margin of victory(defeat) elements, but NYJ over OAK at this point shows a serious flaw in them.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

The Bengals are 3 - 2???

I guess I haven't been paying attention.

 

[Chase Stuart]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl11.htmThe Jets are still a top ten team in the league,

I was ready to question this, then I pulled up the standing and went division by division. I would say you are right.

Outside of a gift-wrapped win over DAL and a win against lowly JAX, all NYJ have done is demonstrate that they are not equipped to beat playoff caliber teams. I'm a bit distrustful of any ranking, regardless of the source, that has the NYJ five places in front of OAK, who beat them earlier. Breaking it down, they each have a loss to NE, which is a wash, NYJ has a loss to BAL which is one spot higher than OAK, so almost a wash. Both have a win over bottom feeding teams (NYJ over JAX, OAK over DEN). NYJ have a win over DAL, which has a fairly inflated SOS ranking at this point, while OAK has a similar, though not as strong according to this site's ranking, win over HOU. But the difference is that OAK has beaten NYJ head to head, but somehow, NYJ are five spots ahead? I appreciate the effort to bring mathematical rankings into play, blending binary win/loss rankings with margin of victory(defeat) elements, but NYJ over OAK at this point shows a serious flaw in them.

The difference lies in margin of victory. The Jets steamrolled the Jaguars; the Raiders beat the Broncos by three. The Raiders lost to the Pats by 12 at home; the Jets lost to NE by 9 on the road. Agreed that the Raiders/Jets are very close. Certainly wouldn't have an issue with anyone putting Oakland ahead of the Jets. But H2H isn't much of an argument. Baltimore steamrolled Pittsburgh who steamrolled Tennessee who steamrolled Baltimore, etc.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I don't think any of the teams with losing records are especially good, and don't think any of the winning teams are especially bad. No obvious choices IMO. Maybe the Jets for the first one?