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What is the highest you would take Leon Washington (1 Viewer)

John Mamula

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Just trying to see how bad a mistake I made last night. I *may* have left my user edited projections in contemplating his upside in the Projections Dominator and made the decision to ignore ADP for the most part given the fact that people in this league draft players significantly different than ADP. I then drafted him from this upside number much earlier than any half sane person would do, not realizing I did it until this morning.

 
Just trying to see how bad a mistake I made last night. I *may* have left my user edited projections in contemplating his upside in the Projections Dominator and made the decision to ignore ADP for the most part given the fact that people in this league draft players significantly different than ADP. I then drafted him from this upside number much earlier than any half sane person would do, not realizing I did it until this morning.
At what point did you take him? I'd say 8th for me as of now. Just don't think TJones is going away yet.
 
I watch every Jets game and I really like this kid, he's a playmaker and Ryan and Co. would be foolish not to involve him steadily in the offense. Obviously if you could have gotten him a few rounds later than you actually did, it would have been better from a value standpoint, but really whether or not you took him "too early" won't be determined until the season is over. At that point you may regret your mistake, or you may be counting your winnings and thanking Washington for turning a couple of screen passes into two 80+ yard TDs in your championship game.

 
Just trying to see how bad a mistake I made last night. I *may* have left my user edited projections in contemplating his upside in the Projections Dominator and made the decision to ignore ADP for the most part given the fact that people in this league draft players significantly different than ADP. I then drafted him from this upside number much earlier than any half sane person would do, not realizing I did it until this morning.
At what point did you take him? I'd say 8th for me as of now. Just don't think TJones is going away yet.
Leon Washington = trendy pick of 2009.So much so I'm starting to think that Tom Jones is where the value is.

 
I watch every Jets game and I really like this kid, he's a playmaker and Ryan and Co. would be foolish not to involve him steadily in the offense. Obviously if you could have gotten him a few rounds later than you actually did, it would have been better from a value standpoint, but really whether or not you took him "too early" won't be determined until the season is over. At that point you may regret your mistake, or you may be counting your winnings and thanking Washington for turning a couple of screen passes into two 80+ yard TDs in your championship game.
This is how I am looking at it. I think I got some really good value in a lot of other rounds so all told it may not be the end of the world.But if he performs like I think he will, I may not have gotten "value" in terms of stealing him late, but I got a good pick at a place I would normally take a player that would produce those numbers.I have also seen players in this league go 3 rounds ahead of where the player's ADP is which is one reason I was ignoring ADP in this draft...just trying to pick up good players in terms of DVBD and not playing the maximize value from ADP game.In past years I would berate someone for doing this, but I don't know if it hurts as bad as people think it does.Goes back to the best draft theory there is...DGP.Draft Good Players. You do that regardless of round you will likely be in the playoffs in a position to win your league.
 
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Just trying to see how bad a mistake I made last night. I *may* have left my user edited projections in contemplating his upside in the Projections Dominator and made the decision to ignore ADP for the most part given the fact that people in this league draft players significantly different than ADP. I then drafted him from this upside number much earlier than any half sane person would do, not realizing I did it until this morning.
At what point did you take him? I'd say 8th for me as of now. Just don't think TJones is going away yet.
Leon Washington = trendy pick of 2009.So much so I'm starting to think that Tom Jones is where the value is.
I made a conscious decision to pick no RBs 30 or over. The risk is too high in terms of the ever increasing likelihood of them imploding. There is no gradual decline for RBs over 30.
 
Just trying to see how bad a mistake I made last night. I *may* have left my user edited projections in contemplating his upside in the Projections Dominator and made the decision to ignore ADP for the most part given the fact that people in this league draft players significantly different than ADP. I then drafted him from this upside number much earlier than any half sane person would do, not realizing I did it until this morning.
At what point did you take him? I'd say 8th for me as of now. Just don't think TJones is going away yet.
Leon Washington = trendy pick of 2009.So much so I'm starting to think that Tom Jones is where the value is.
I made a conscious decision to pick no RBs 30 or over. The risk is too high in terms of the ever increasing likelihood of them imploding. There is no gradual decline for RBs over 30.
Except for, say, Emmitt Smith and Curtis Martin.
 
Just trying to see how bad a mistake I made last night. I *may* have left my user edited projections in contemplating his upside in the Projections Dominator and made the decision to ignore ADP for the most part given the fact that people in this league draft players significantly different than ADP. I then drafted him from this upside number much earlier than any half sane person would do, not realizing I did it until this morning.
At what point did you take him? I'd say 8th for me as of now. Just don't think TJones is going away yet.
Leon Washington = trendy pick of 2009.So much so I'm starting to think that Tom Jones is where the value is.
I made a conscious decision to pick no RBs 30 or over. The risk is too high in terms of the ever increasing likelihood of them imploding. There is no gradual decline for RBs over 30.
Except for, say, Emmitt Smith and Curtis Martin.
Thomas Jones is not in their class.Although, in his favor, he might be a "young" 30 considering he didn't start carrying a full workload until his later 20s.

 
Strongly considering in my ppr league with points for return yardage taking him in the 5th round. He was like the 28th overall scoring leader in the league last year.

 
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Strongly considering in my ppr league with points for return yardage taking him in the 5th round. He was like the 28th overall scoring leader in the league last year.
I think that would be good value for him in a PPR league. I took him slightly earlier than that...o.OHe was #25 RB last year in our PPR league last year and I do think there is a slight bump to those numbers even in a baseline scenario.In looking back on what RBs were picked in between where I got him and my pick at 5.10, I think it was a push of who I would have grabbed. I got McFadden as a steal at 5.10, so if I would have grabbed Washington at 5.10 and McFadden at 4.03 that would have been considered more normal in terms of ADP.The RBs that went in between those picks were Bush, Grant, Lynch, Addai, and Parker. I think Washington has a better upside in his situation and health than most if not all of these.I may have got lucky that McFadden fell a full round from where he normally goes to snag him at 5.10, and got even luckier to grab Moreno at 6.03 to save my butt from ignoring ADP.I think this league was a good example of people overvaluing RBs early in a PPR league and then undervaluing the mid tier guys while trying to make up for not getting WRs earlier. This allowed me to have the 4-6 rounds to grab three RBs with a ton of upside after locking down three stud WRs.Regarding the comment about Martin and Smith, those are two guys (more so Martin) that were the exception to the rule...Smith wasn't doing anything in AZ. I'd rather miss out on a 2/10 chance that a 30+ back will be healthy than take a chance that odds are he will break down and fast right in the middle of a season not giving you as a fantasy owner a chance to recover.There's something to be said about mitigating risk while taking a somewhat comparable RB who hasn't shown that history. Same reason I don't draft Pennington. He's had enough seasons to be a horrible fantasy QB at the price you can get him that I would rather take another mediocre QB in the 10th that hasn't shown a history of injuries. :rolleyes:
 
I got him 103 overall in a PPR league, no special teams value though as that goes to the defense in our league.

 
I'm been looking at him too in PPR. I play in a PPR flex league (2RB/2WRs or 1 RB/3WRs) where all TDs are 6pts and we get 1pt per 20 yds for return yardage. I'm considering to take 3 WRs and a QB in the first 4 rounds then take Washington in the 5th BUT I'm not sure that's the best strategy. Because of the retun yardage low to mid WRs like Hester, Breaston, Ginn, etc become much more valuable. WRs in general are inconsistent but the return yds helps in that area. Therefore why not take whatever value is on the board and fill out your starters in the first 5-6 rounds then focus on guys like Washington, Sproles, and the WRs I've already mentioned who get a boost later on in the draft?

 

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