What is the proper roster size for a 12 man league (1 Viewer)

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I need some help on this one.

 

[Eviloutsider]

We have 18 roster spots to start off with and then as soon as the first byte week hits we bump the rosters up to 20.

 

[cscmtp]

I commish 8 different 12 team dynasty leagues. We have 22 roster spots and everyone loves it. Granted, we don't start 2 QBs, but there is enough talent on the wire to make it interesting, and enough players on each roster to promote plenty of trades.

 

[glock]

15 here. Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,K,D with 7 spot bench. We also only have 2 F/A moves each for the season along with unlimited injury moves for players listed as "Out."

 

[flranger]

We use 14 with a very similar starting requirements

9 starters / 5 bench.

Fantasy football is about how you manage, not just a great draft. Drop your bench to 5 players and you'll find out who the best manager is. It forces transactions, trades, drop add, etc. Makes for tough decisions.

We love it.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

At least 18. I'd rather have more. I'm in a league where we have 13 (with 14 teams) and it completely negates any reason to trade. There's always someone out there to pick up.

 

[glock]

We use 14 with a very similar starting requirements

9 starters / 5 bench.

Fantasy football is about how you manage, not just a great draft. Drop your bench to 5 players and you'll find out who the best manager is. It forces transactions, trades, drop add, etc. Makes for tough decisions.

We love it.

So how many F/A move does each manager have?

 

[glock]

At least 18. I'd rather have more. I'm in a league where we have 13 (with 14 teams) and it completely negates any reason to trade. There's always someone out there to pick up.

That's one reason we only have 2 F/A moves per owner in my $ league. Spurs trading. No picking up the player dejour in this league.

 

[Uncle Randy]

I picked 16 because you don't have an option for 15. My 12-team leagues are 15, starting qb,rb,rb,wr,wr,te,k,d. If we had a flex, then maybe 16, but with 12 teams the FA pool gets really weak.

 

[MLBrandow]

I like 18.

 

[AcousticNut]

The league that I play in at work is 12 teams - 12 players on the roster!. Talk about brutal when it comes time for bye weeks.

1QB 2RB 2WR 1Flex 1Def 1K

That leaves us with 4 free roster spots for backups and bye weeks.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

16.

Right now, you are the only one in the league who wants more than 16 roster spots. I will tell you right now, that you will be very hard pressed to get it passed.

This isn't a dynasty league so there is no need for a large roster. 6 bench players and a DL spot is certainly enough for backups and to cover problems with injuries and bye weeks during the year.

You seem to want to de-value the regular season and place all the empahasis on the draft. I am not sure why you want to do this, but there is simply no need for a 18 man roster in a redraft league.

 

[flranger]

We use 14 with a very  similar starting requirements

9 starters / 5 bench.

Fantasy football is about how you manage, not just a great draft.  Drop your bench to 5 players and you'll find out who the best manager is.  It forces transactions, trades, drop add, etc.  Makes for tough decisions.

We love it.

So how many F/A move does each manager have?

As many as you want. We have a "claims" period on Tuesday, with lowest team getting first pick, etc. Rest of the week is open season for free agents.Regarding the no reason to trade talk....baloney. Take a look at the 169th best player in FFL. If you want that 169th guy leading your team then don't bother trading. We have very, very active trades in our league.

Key is no fees for transactions. Run it like you want. To us, FFL is all about managing a team during the season. Get a league with 22 spots each and I'll show you a league that doesn't have near the strategy as one with limited depth. Makes for tough choices at bye weeks, which spurs trades and free agent pickups.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I completely disagree with those who say a smaller roster = more strategy.

I would rather see the breakout players of the year go to the owners who were wise enough to see something in them and use that last roster spot on them, rather than some schmuck who has first wire claim because his team is awful.

 

[Mapmaker]

With the starting lineup requirement as listed I think 18 would be fine .... it'd leave a fair amout of talent on the WW and allow for flexability through the bye week's where you may want a scrub kicker or back-up TE

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I completely disagree with those who say a smaller roster = more strategy.

I would rather see the breakout players of the year go to the owners who were wise enough to see something in them and use that last roster spot on them, rather than some schmuck who has first wire claim because his team is awful.

With a larger roster you are going to get guys flinging poop in the last rounds and just hoping something will stick and they will get a sleeper. I do not see a large amount of strategy in that.If its my picks in the 17th and 18th, I do not need anymore backups or bye week players, so I'll just try and get some fliers and hope they turn out. I don't see much strategy in that.

We also don't use waiver wire, we use bid bucks, so picking up a player is up to you. If you bid the right amount and get the free agent and he turns out to be awesome, how is that more/less strategy than taking fliers in the last rounds of the draft?

 

[Spartans Rule]

I completely disagree with those who say a smaller roster = more strategy.

I would rather see the breakout players of the year go to the owners who were wise enough to see something in them and use that last roster spot on them, rather than some schmuck who has first wire claim because his team is awful.

With a larger roster you are going to get guys flinging poop in the last rounds and just hoping something will stick and they will get a sleeper. I do not see a large amount of strategy in that.If its my picks in the 17th and 18th, I do not need anymore backups or bye week players, so I'll just try and get some fliers and hope they turn out. I don't see much strategy in that.

We also don't use waiver wire, we use bid bucks, so picking up a player is up to you. If you bid the right amount and get the free agent and he turns out to be awesome, how is that more/less strategy than taking fliers in the last rounds of the draft?

Personally I think there's a lot more to late round draft strategy than "flinging poop". I hit on sleepers/value picks in the late rounds with a lot higher frequency than other players. Other good players also snag more late-round steals. There's a lot more to it than dumb luck.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I completely disagree with those who say a smaller roster = more strategy.

I would rather see the breakout players of the year go to the owners who were wise enough to see something in them and use that last roster spot on them, rather than some schmuck who has first wire claim because his team is awful.

With a larger roster you are going to get guys flinging poop in the last rounds and just hoping something will stick and they will get a sleeper. I do not see a large amount of strategy in that.If its my picks in the 17th and 18th, I do not need anymore backups or bye week players, so I'll just try and get some fliers and hope they turn out. I don't see much strategy in that.

We also don't use waiver wire, we use bid bucks, so picking up a player is up to you. If you bid the right amount and get the free agent and he turns out to be awesome, how is that more/less strategy than taking fliers in the last rounds of the draft?

Personally I think there's a lot more to late round draft strategy than "flinging poop". I hit on sleepers/value picks in the late rounds with a lot higher frequency than other players. Other good players also snag more late-round steals. There's a lot more to it than dumb luck.

While I agree to a point, how is it more luck than someone hitting on a regular season pick-up?My point was just that since the roster is large and unneeded, that people will be taking the picks on fliers and sleepers because they already have their backups filled. If the whole league is trying to hit on sleepers and taking various flier picks, then it comes down to luck of hitting on a player as much as picking up a free agent during the regular season.

 

[Iceman66]

I am in the exactely same position 18 rostered.

 

[flranger]

I completely disagree with those who say a smaller roster = more strategy.

I would rather see the breakout players of the year go to the owners who were wise enough to see something in them and use that last roster spot on them, rather than some schmuck who has first wire claim because his team is awful.

That's cool, agree to disagree. Clearly the draft is more important the more roster spots you have so I don't argue the draft part. I'm sure i'm right, your sure your right......As far as the schmucks, we have a tight knit league of friends, and personally while I enjoy beating all of them, I don't get any satisfaction in seeing a team out of the running in week 6. We prefer to make the season more important than the draft.

Since it's not all about slinging poop (which I agree it is not) I'm curious which players you have targeted in rounds 21 and 22?

We have an auction, $200 cap.....here is my strategy. Buy LJ and LT for about $145. Get killed in week 3 when both are on bye week. Enjoy the rewards the other 13 weeks when I've got two of the top 5 every week.

 

[Marc Levin]

With two QBs, 17/18 tops if you like to see a lot of WW work in your league - we generate 4 bucks per move, and the money goes into a party at the end of the year, so we like to keep rosters small.

you go to above 18, there will be no players available for injuries to RBs and QBs - you should also cap rosters if you want to keep injury plagued teams involved - we have a 5RB/6WR/3 at all other spots max.

In one QB leagues, 15 or 16 is enough.

 

[Marc Levin]

I completely disagree with those who say a smaller roster = more strategy.

I would rather see the breakout players of the year go to the owners who were wise enough to see something in them and use that last roster spot on them, rather than some schmuck who has first wire claim because his team is awful.

Or injured - or have a silent auction on the player,m with a max number of dollars you can spend per year.Worst team/first pick is not the ONLY way to play the WW.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Thanks for all the comments guys.

 

[Spartans Rule]

That's cool, agree to disagree.

The beauty of FF. If your league roster size is 1 or 50, doesn't matter. Whatever's most fun for you.