What is the standard league set up? (1 Viewer)

[avoiding injuries]

I am having a dispute with a member of my league. We have 12 teams split into two divisions. I say the top 6 records overall make the playoffs. This other guy says it's the top 3 in each division.

Not to influence the poll but... The reason for the divisions is because the league consists of two different groups of friends with some overlap. Also, you play 2 teams twice and those teams are from your division. The guy lobbying for top 3 in each division clealy has the two worst (on paper) teams and thinks this gives him a better shot.

 

[Irish]

Why have divisions when the top 6 make the playoffs anyways?

 

[CrossEyed]

Why have divisions when the top 6 make the playoffs anyways?

 

[Synthesizer]

Top 3 in each division. It'll keep more teams interested down the homestretch.

 

[B Maverick]

Why not 2 division winners then the top 4 by record regardless of division after that?

top 6 makes divisions worthless.

 

[CrossEyed]

Why not 2 division winners then the top 4 by record regardless of division after that?top 6 makes divisions worthless.

Isn't it a given that the top team in each division will be among the top 6 overall?

 

[avoiding injuries]

Each team plays eachother during the season. A team with a worse record in a weaker division should make it over a team with a better record in a tougher division?

 

[avoiding injuries]

Why not 2 division winners then the top 4 by record regardless of division after that?top 6 makes divisions worthless.

Division winners get first round bye's.

 

[Synthesizer]

Each team plays eachother during the season. A team with a worse record in a weaker division should make it over a team with a better record in a tougher division?

Maybe you personally should just hand-pick the 6 teams that you feel are best.

 

[Koya]

The best way to do this is top two teams from each division make it in and two wild cards (two next best records, regardless of division) with the top record in each division.

We actually have this with the caveat that if anyone has the top scoring team overall, they are guaranteed one of the two wild card slots even if they do not have one of the two next best records - which I presume happens very rarely (I had one of those sob story years. Top overall points but because of a couple very quirky things and a lotta bad luck, actually didnt make the playoffs by a game. It hurt. Anyways, the league then made the best total points stipulation).

Edit to add: Basically, a Wild Card stipulation would work well in the case of your league, where you may not have balanced divisions.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Each team plays eachother during the season. A team with a worse record in a weaker division should make it over a team with a better record in a tougher division?

Maybe you personally should just hand-pick the 6 teams that you feel are best.

Your post makes absolutely no sense and offers nothing to the discussion. By having the top 6 teams make the playoffs is somehow comparable to me handpicking them?

 

[Koya]

Why have divisions when the top 6 make the playoffs anyways?

If you have a bye for tops overall, and there is money in the regular season too (i.e. best overall record, or most points scored) then 6 can still work well. You then get the motivation to win the division, along with $$ for total points crown while still having 9-10 teams in the race until the last week or two so you dont have lame duck owners in the most important games.

 

[Synthesizer]

Each team plays eachother during the season. A team with a worse record in a weaker division should make it over a team with a better record in a tougher division?

Maybe you personally should just hand-pick the 6 teams that you feel are best.

Your post makes absolutely no sense and offers nothing to the discussion. By having the top 6 teams make the playoffs is somehow comparable to me handpicking them?

It does add something to the discussion because it was a jab at you.Actually, I doubt your scenario would happen very often. Usually if one division is tougher than the other, the teams in the tougher division beat up on each other all year and end up with worse records than they deserve. Meanwhile some mediocre team in the weaker division is racking up wins against lesser competion. Let the teams battle it out head to head with their own division for a playoff spot.

 

[The Jerk]

Actually, I doubt your scenario would happen very often. Usually if one division is tougher than the other, the teams in the tougher division beat up on each other all year and end up with worse records than they deserve. Meanwhile some mediocre team in the weaker division is racking up wins against lesser competion. Let the teams battle it out head to head with their own division for a playoff spot.

I agree with your post up to the last sentence. Let's say by chance the breakdown is 4 good teams in one "strong" division and 2 good teams in the other "weak" division, and despite the tougher schedule due to being in the tougher division, the 4th place team in the strong division has a better record than the 3rd place team in the weak division. Yes, it happens infrequently, but when it does happen, why would you want a weaker team with a worse record to get the last spot into the playoffs?I would seed the division winners 1 and 2, then take the next four teams independent of division affiliation. If you like the total points caveat, then take the next three teams along with the highest total points team that would otherwise miss the playoffs.

 

[my man otis]

with 12 teams it should be 3 divisions of 4 teams.

3 division winners get in, plus 3 wild cards.

Or you can do 3 division winners + 1 wild card if you don't want 1/2 the leauge making the playoffs.

 

[Johnny Rock]

with 12 teams it should be 3 divisions of 4 teams.Or you can do 3 division winners + 1 wild card if you don't want 1/2 the leauge making the playoffs.

This is what we do. What's the point of having a regular season if a 6-8 team makes the playoffs, gets hot and wins the whole thing?

 

[shamrock84]

Each team plays eachother during the season. A team with a worse record in a weaker division should make it over a team with a better record in a tougher division?

Maybe you personally should just hand-pick the 6 teams that you feel are best.

 

[Synthesizer]

with 12 teams it should be 3 divisions of 4 teams.Or you can do 3 division winners + 1 wild card if you don't want 1/2 the leauge making the playoffs.

This is what we do. What's the point of having a regular season if a 6-8 team makes the playoffs, gets hot and wins the whole thing?

You mean like what happens in the NFL, NBA, and NHL?

 

[avoiding injuries]

Actually, I doubt your scenario would happen very often. Usually if one division is tougher than the other, the teams in the tougher division beat up on each other all year and end up with worse records than they deserve. Meanwhile some mediocre team in the weaker division is racking up wins against lesser competion. Let the teams battle it out head to head with their own division for a playoff spot.

I agree with your post up to the last sentence. Let's say by chance the breakdown is 4 good teams in one "strong" division and 2 good teams in the other "weak" division, and despite the tougher schedule due to being in the tougher division, the 4th place team in the strong division has a better record than the 3rd place team in the weak division. Yes, it happens infrequently, but when it does happen, why would you want a weaker team with a worse record to get the last spot into the playoffs?I would seed the division winners 1 and 2, then take the next four teams independent of division affiliation. If you like the total points caveat, then take the next three teams along with the highest total points team that would otherwise miss the playoffs.

This is consistent with my line of thinking. The other owner is comparing the different divisions to the NFC and AFC where records don't matter. Since each team plays eachother, I am comparing the divisions to say the NFC East and NFC West. Going with the points I think takes away from H2H.