What player after about round 4-6 is on your radar (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

What player that you can draft after say about round 4 or so is on your radar. Last season, the guy I targeted in about round 5 of almost every draft I was in was Chris Johnson. Now I also had some later round picks that did not go as well, but what player or players have you most interested?

For me, there are a lot of RBs that my interest. For example, Donald Brown went in about the 7th round of a 16 team format I am involved in right now and I think that is amazing value for him. He is set to take on about half the load running th eball IMO, maybe not as much in the passing game. Because of the 2 back splits everyone is doing these days, is there a feeling of "Why take RB1 in the 3rd, when I can get this other back later"...I have other examples of this.

DWill-1st

JStew-5th

D.Ward-5th

E.Graham-10th

J.Addai-4th

D.Brown-7th

I'm sure there are lots of others but I just highlight these as examples.

WRs

S.Holmes-3rd/4th

H.Ward-6th

G.Jennings-2nd

D.Driver 7th

Ch.Johnson-3rd

L.Coles-6th

What you got?

 

[MAC_32]

There are A LOT of guys I will be watching and several guys I believe will be under valued but who is under valued now won't necessarily be under valued come August.

If I had to throw out one name/position right now it'd be Percy Harvin, Matt Hasselbeck, and Jamal Lewis. I don't see that under valued TE right now because I don't think Keller, Carlson, or Zach Miller will drop but if they do I'm all over them.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Michael Bush

Rashard Mendenhall

Fred Taylor

super sleeper Leonard Weaver

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Trent Edwards

Weaver

Parker/Mendenhall

McGahee

Coles

Chambers

 

[MAC_32]

Michael Bush

Rashard Mendenhall

Fred Taylor

super sleeper Leonard Weaver

Definitely someone I will be following, should've replaced Fargas sooner last season. In that scheme if given the touches he could be $

 

[Rounders]

Great topic MOP. I was thinking about this about a month ago. I went back and looked at my leagues drafts since 2000, and the one common denominator for all the successful teams: they all had good drafts in rounds 7-10.

To me this is the area that we all should be focusing on. If you can hit a homerun with 2-3 players in the middle rounds, your season will be successful assuming your 1st/2nd round picks stay healthy.

As for players to target, I feel like it's too early to tell mainly because we don't have enough good ADP values out there. I expect this to start picking up over the next couple of months.

 

[AllVolUT]

Tons of time left, but I'm intrigued in Baltimore's backfield. It seems as if people forget about Cam Cameron.

If, and it's a big if, Rice/McClain/McGahee can command the lion's share of carries during TC, then the winner would represent great value IMO - obviously a situation that bares watching early on.

FWIW, I'm most interested in Rice at his current ADP. IIRC I remember reading something recently about McGahee undergoing another procedure on his knee. If Ray can improve his blocking in the offseason, I think he could be a great between the 20's type guy, with McClain being the goal-line back.

 

[travdogg]

Jonathan Stewart is kind of a cheap one, but is probably the guy I'd target the most in that range. He'll improve on last year's numbers(when he was a solid RB3) and if DeAngelo goes down, he'll be the #1 RB in all of fantasy land in my opinion. There isn't another 4+ rounder with that upside.

Darren McFadden is another one who i think could easily become a stud this year, especially in PPR leagues. He could go in round 3 if he tears up in camp and the preseason but as of now he's 4+ and I'm targeting him as a RB2 with elite upside.

Dustin Keller is going about TE10 and is a tremendous value there. He could very well lead the Jets in both catches and TD's. Outside of a proven track record, I don't see any reason to take guys like Gates or Witten in round 3 or 4 when you can likely get Keller in round 8+. Of course, like McFadden, there is a good chance his value rises between now and draft day.

Finally, I'd like to throw a deep sleeper out there(though he's very well known) Derrius Heyward-Bey. I don't see the Williamson comparisons at all and the path to being Oakland's #1 WR isn't very tough. Not saying I'm expecting 1,000 yards or 10 TD's, but I think he could be a low-end WR3 or a high-end WR4 that could be available after some kickers have been taken.

 

[travdogg]

Chambers

Not saying I agree or disagree, but this is one where an explanation would be great.

 

[AllVolUT]

Jonathan Stewart is kind of a cheap one, but is probably the guy I'd target the most in that range. He'll improve on last year's numbers(when he was a solid RB3) and if DeAngelo goes down, he'll be the #1 RB in all of fantasy land in my opinion. There isn't another 4+ rounder with that upside.

Darren McFadden is another one who i think could easily become a stud this year, especially in PPR leagues. He could go in round 3 if he tears up in camp and the preseason but as of now he's 4+ and I'm targeting him as a RB2 with elite upside.

Dustin Keller is going about TE10 and is a tremendous value there. He could very well lead the Jets in both catches and TD's. Outside of a proven track record, I don't see any reason to take guys like Gates or Witten in round 3 or 4 when you can likely get Keller in round 8+. Of course, like McFadden, there is a good chance his value rises between now and draft day.

Finally, I'd like to throw a deep sleeper out there(though he's very well known) Derrius Heyward-Bey. I don't see the Williamson comparisons at all and the path to being Oakland's #1 WR isn't very tough. Not saying I'm expecting 1,000 yards or 10 TD's, but I think he could be a low-end WR3 or a high-end WR4 that could be available after some kickers have been taken.

I especially agree with these two.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Coles is a guy I love this year, especially in PPR. I think he could outproduce Houshmandzadeh, who is drafted a few rounds earlier in many drafts.

 

[Riffraff]

Chambers

Not saying I agree or disagree, but this is one where an explanation would be great.

Probably since he's still technically the #1 WR position on the team and VJackson faces a possible suspension of up to 4 weeks. Shrug.

 

[gerome]

I can't believe I am saying this but; How about Cedric Benson?

He didn't play the first of the season but put up some really good numbers the second half.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I can't believe I am saying this but; How about Cedric Benson?He didn't play the first of the season but put up some really good numbers the second half.

Agree 100%. I was not too into his position in the drat but then you look and see what he did down the stretch last season, plus the fact they drafted a greatLT in SMith form Alabama, passing game should be improved as Fitz was running things last year, and then the kicker is that there is very little pushing him form behind. And he signed a super cheap 2 yr $4-5Million deal so he is likely playing for a much richer contract down the road. This will be CB's 5th year in the league so he isn't ancient, has low tread too since being in the NFL. We aren't talking about a 3rd round pick here either, more like about 75 picks into most drafts which puts him in the 5th-7th round, you have to like the potential upside for him at that point.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Coles is a guy I love this year, especially in PPR. I think he could outproduce Houshmandzadeh, who is drafted a few rounds earlier in many drafts.

WR1-Cal Johnson 1.16WR2-M.Colston 2.01WR3-L.Coles 6.01How does that look in a 16 team PPR start 3?

 

[EBF]

Redraft specials:

Matt Ryan - Coming off arguably the best rookie season ever by a QB. If he improves in year two, he could be nice.

Pierre Thomas - Monster down the stretch last year. With Reggie recovering from microfracture, Pierre could have a big year.

Julius Jones - He's a chronic underachiever, but he's a cheap starter with no real competition for touches.

Chad Johnson - Should rebound if he's healthy. 1200 yards and 8 TDs is a realistic possibility.

Devin Hester - Dynamic WR1 in a Cutler led offense. Obvious breakout potential.

Hakeem Nicks - Could mirror what Bowe did in 2007.

Percy Harvin - Could mirror what DeSean Jackson did in 2008.

Donnie Avery - Someone has to catch passes in St. Louis. He looks like the most obvious candidate.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Redraft specials:Matt Ryan - Coming off arguably the best rookie season ever by a QB. If he improves in year two, he could be nice.Pierre Thomas - Monster down the stretch last year. With Reggie recovering from microfracture, Pierre could have a big year.Julius Jones - He's a chronic underachiever, but he's a cheap starter with no real competition for touches.Chad Johnson - Should rebound if he's healthy. 1200 yards and 8 TDs is a realistic possibility.Devin Hester - Dynamic WR1 in a Cutler led offense. Obvious breakout potential. Hakeem Nicks - Could mirror what Bowe did in 2007.Percy Harvin - Could mirror what DeSean Jackson did in 2008.Donnie Avery - Someone has to catch passes in St. Louis. He looks like the most obvious candidate.

That's a righteous list Jaws

 

[Blackjacks]

I'll bite

Sage Rosenfield - has some great weapons to throw to and I am positive he will be the starter week 1.

Cedric Benson - got the best olineman in the draft and was looking retty good the last couple of games.

Ronnie Brown - if he stays healthy I love Brown this year. That oline is just nasty and their qb is still descent at best.

Devin Hester - I saw Orton miss Hester atleast 4 times last year for 40+ yard td's. I don't think Cutler will miss him this year.

Mark Clayton - Is it just me or was Clayton looking really good at the end of the year. Add in a full training camp will Flacco and good things could happen.

Brent Celek - With all the speed on the outside Celek will have one on one matchups across the middle all day long.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The title of the thread doesn't really imply what I was showing in the OP...and that is you have 2 backs on the same team and you can get 1 of them in the 2nd but you can have the other in the 6th for whatever the reasons...and you think they may end up with somewhat similar stats or could be splitting time...to me it's much better to grab the guy later and load up on some true studs in the 1st and 2nd rounds. I don't think you can miss on guys like Fitz, AJ, R.Moss, you know those guys are going to produce so why not take a few back in the middle rounds instead.

I will be very interested to see David Dodds perfect draft this year. Forever it seems he has implored everyone to load up on WRs in the 3rd thru 8th rounds and I don't see a lot of value there but I do see a ton at RB.

 

[JetMaxx]

Ahmad Bradshaw is a guy I'd love to get 6th rd or later. How likely is Jacobs to stay healthy? Not very IMO. Bradshaw is next in line now and could be big behind that line. Coughlin has shown in the past that he will use him which could mean big things if Jacobs goes down. Bradshaw would make a terrific #3RB in a large league.

 

[Blackjacks]

The title of the thread doesn't really imply what I was showing in the OP...and that is you have 2 backs on the same team and you can get 1 of them in the 2nd but you can have the other in the 6th for whatever the reasons...and you think they may end up with somewhat similar stats or could be splitting time...to me it's much better to grab the guy later and load up on some true studs in the 1st and 2nd rounds. I don't think you can miss on guys like Fitz, AJ, R.Moss, you know those guys are going to produce so why not take a few back in the middle rounds instead.I will be very interested to see David Dodds perfect draft this year. Forever it seems he has implored everyone to load up on WRs in the 3rd thru 8th rounds and I don't see a lot of value there but I do see a ton at RB.

got ya

 

[-baller]

maroney!

 

[nightmare]

Would B Berrian fall this far?

Last year it would've been TB's wr's but now?

Does K Walter get 8 TDs again? that offense is getting better.

Take a chance on D Hixon if B Edwards doesn't go to NYG.

If Edwards does go to the Giants which Browns WR do you go for?

I think this is the year where stub RB theory gets killed.

Draft two stud WRs in the first three rounds then take a chance on

some rookie RB(s) and a QB like Garrard, Rosenfels, Orton.

 

[RJS113]

Darren Sproles. It seems like the hype on this guy has been fading lately. I think the closer it gets to the start of the season, he will start going even later in drafts. The Chargers aren't paying this guy $6 million to ride the bench. I see LT and Sproles splitting carries, and he should also be more involved in the passing game this year. He should be good for 10-15 touches a game. I see him as a good #3, or even a low end #2.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Anthony Gonzalez: A blend of upside and value, not sure that he'll be here after the 6th though.

Lance Moore: See above. There will be doubters that will think that last season was not a fluke.

Steve Breaston: The Wells pick could temper the pass happy offense, but the WR3 on AZ is still highly productive.

Felix Jones: Nicked up here and there, but the value/upside is there for a mid round pick.

Julius Jones: Somebody has to get the touches in SEA.

Cedric Benson: See Julius Jones.

 

[gerome]

Darren Sproles. It seems like the hype on this guy has been fading lately. I think the closer it gets to the start of the season, he will start going even later in drafts. The Chargers aren't paying this guy $6 million to ride the bench. I see LT and Sproles splitting carries, and he should also be more involved in the passing game this year. He should be good for 10-15 touches a game. I see him as a good #3, or even a low end #2.

What are your thoughts about Gartrell Johnson? This guys is a beast who's make up is to pound the rock. He may take over the change of pace back and Sproles becomes a 3rd down back.

 

[Pickle Rody]

maroney!

What?.....You drafting Fred Taylor in the 2nd and grabbing Maroney in the 12th?

 

[MAC_32]

I can't believe I am saying this but; How about Cedric Benson?He didn't play the first of the season but put up some really good numbers the second half.

Agree 100%. I was not too into his position in the drat but then you look and see what he did down the stretch last season, plus the fact they drafted a greatLT in SMith form Alabama, passing game should be improved as Fitz was running things last year, and then the kicker is that there is very little pushing him form behind. And he signed a super cheap 2 yr $4-5Million deal so he is likely playing for a much richer contract down the road. This will be CB's 5th year in the league so he isn't ancient, has low tread too since being in the NFL. We aren't talking about a 3rd round pick here either, more like about 75 picks into most drafts which puts him in the 5th-7th round, you have to like the potential upside for him at that point.

Most of Cincy's o line has little-to-no NFL experience and they have no depth behind them. I don't think he has much upside to be honest.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I can't believe I am saying this but; How about Cedric Benson?He didn't play the first of the season but put up some really good numbers the second half.

Agree 100%. I was not too into his position in the drat but then you look and see what he did down the stretch last season, plus the fact they drafted a greatLT in SMith form Alabama, passing game should be improved as Fitz was running things last year, and then the kicker is that there is very little pushing him form behind. And he signed a super cheap 2 yr $4-5Million deal so he is likely playing for a much richer contract down the road. This will be CB's 5th year in the league so he isn't ancient, has low tread too since being in the NFL. We aren't talking about a 3rd round pick here either, more like about 75 picks into most drafts which puts him in the 5th-7th round, you have to like the potential upside for him at that point.

Most of Cincy's o line has little-to-no NFL experience and they have no depth behind them. I don't think he has much upside to be honest.

I think you are overlooking the fact that Palmer was not in the many games downt he stretch last season. The rookie LT is going to be a stud and that will shore up palmer's blindside and allow him to operate that offense. With a decent passing game I believe it will open up the running game but if you feel differently that's cool. Do you have some other players you are high on in those middle rounds? Appreciate the post

 

[MAC_32]

I can't believe I am saying this but; How about Cedric Benson?

He didn't play the first of the season but put up some really good numbers the second half.

Agree 100%. I was not too into his position in the drat but then you look and see what he did down the stretch last season, plus the fact they drafted a greatLT in SMith form Alabama, passing game should be improved as Fitz was running things last year, and then the kicker is that there is very little pushing him form behind. And he signed a super cheap 2 yr $4-5Million deal so he is likely playing for a much richer contract down the road. This will be CB's 5th year in the league so he isn't ancient, has low tread too since being in the NFL. We aren't talking about a 3rd round pick here either, more like about 75 picks into most drafts which puts him in the 5th-7th round, you have to like the potential upside for him at that point.

Most of Cincy's o line has little-to-no NFL experience and they have no depth behind them. I don't think he has much upside to be honest.

I think you are overlooking the fact that Palmer was not in the many games downt he stretch last season. The rookie LT is going to be a stud and that will shore up palmer's blindside and allow him to operate that offense. With a decent passing game I believe it will open up the running game but if you feel differently that's cool. Do you have some other players you are high on in those middle rounds? Appreciate the post

I'm not over looking Carson's absence, I expect him and Hass to be the two best QB values come draft day. I think betting that Cincy's o line won't perform badly is a poor bet. Smith has enormous potential and his void was definitely felt in the bowl game last year, he can dominate a game. He's also a mental midget that was drafted by a team known for not knowing how to handle these players. I think saying he's 'going to be a stud' is way too great of an expectation. I'm not saying he will or he won't and when, but he's a very immature rook. There's probably going to be a decent sized learning curve and who knows if he'll ever fulfill his expectations.I think Benson lacks upside because of the huge question marks up front, probably won't play on passing downs, probably won't get many 'bleeding the clock' carries in the 4th quarter because I don't expect Cincy to have too many late leads, may have some stiff competition from Bernard Scott (I realize he may be behind bars before camp breaks but there's no denying his God given talents), and he's simply not that good. Yes, if he's being given 20-ish touches a game he has some value. If Troy Hambrick has value with 20 touches anyone does. However, he's not a player I'd like to be relying on as anything more than a RB4.

I'll throw a few other potential mid round values out there on top of Hass, Harvin, J Lewis, and M Bush:

Shonn Greene - Ryan wants to run an offense like that of Baltimore's last year, I could see Greene fulfilling the McClain role and given Thomas Jones' age there is some 20+ touch upside

Darren Sproles - seems like the interwebz are a buzz about Gantrell Johnson, Sproles is being forgotten about. He got tagged for a reason, he's going to get his touches, and he showed last year what he can do with them. Very interested to see how he'll be valued come late summer.

Knowshon Moreno - I imagine the 'Denver RB red flags' are going to crop up come August (incorrectly) de-valuing Moreno. He's the best back in that backfield by a lot. Even if he doesn't get goal line carries I think he'll be $ if he falls to the 4th-5th round as I think he will.

Kevin Smith - quietly put up some good numbers in the 2nd half last year and didn't have any (good) competition brought in over the offseason, with Pettigrew upgrading the run blocking and a year behind him I think he can provide value in the mid rounds (if he falls as far as I think he will)

In case you can't tell I'm likely going to be doing some RB hoarding in the mid rounds, probably going WR early after RB in round 1. I think the late round value's going to be WR, a lot of uncertainty with those looked at as WR3's, a lot of upside will be there late/on waivers.

 

[Routilla]

Due to the increased use of 2 RBs by most teams I am seriously considering drafting both RBs of a team and using my early picks on stud WRs. Under this theory I would spend my 1st rounder on say C. Johnson then grab 3 good WRs such as Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith and Brandon Marshall. Then I come back and get L. White and corner the market on TEN's run game. Plus the other later picks like Brown and Greene would provide a potentially lethal line-up should they emerge as starting RBs.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Patrick Crayton

Anthony Gonzalez

Kevin Walter

Kevin Smith

 

[bcr8f]

Ryan Grant after the 5th round.

 

[RJS113]

Darren Sproles. It seems like the hype on this guy has been fading lately. I think the closer it gets to the start of the season, he will start going even later in drafts. The Chargers aren't paying this guy $6 million to ride the bench. I see LT and Sproles splitting carries, and he should also be more involved in the passing game this year. He should be good for 10-15 touches a game. I see him as a good #3, or even a low end #2.

What are your thoughts about Gartrell Johnson? This guys is a beast who's make up is to pound the rock. He may take over the change of pace back and Sproles becomes a 3rd down back.

I don't think Johnson hurts Sproles at all. They have completely different skill sets, so I don't think Johnson will cut into Sproles touches. If LT and Sproles stay healthy, I really don't even see Johnson seeing the field much at all.Now the only impact I can see Johnson having on Sproles, is that he can limit Sproles' upside. If LT gets hurt and misses time, Sproles may not be "the man" (as he was in the Colts playoff game). I think Johnson would would then split carries with Sproles. As I said before, I see Sproles getting 10-15 carries a game, but now with the addition of Johnson, I don't see him getting any more than that, even if LT gets hurt.

 

[Kuz]

Due to the increased use of 2 RBs by most teams I am seriously considering drafting both RBs of a team and using my early picks on stud WRs. Under this theory I would spend my 1st rounder on say C. Johnson then grab 3 good WRs such as Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith and Brandon Marshall. Then I come back and get L. White and corner the market on TEN's run game. Plus the other later picks like Brown and Greene would provide a potentially lethal line-up should they emerge as starting RBs.

I doubt you will be able to get those guys but that's not the point. I agree with this post. Sound like a great plan this year..

 

[drew726]

Kevin Smith - Doubt he'll be there at round 4

Sage Rosenfels

Bernard Berrian - because of sage rosenfels

Pierre Thomas

Matt Schaub

 

[3nOut]

[hijack]

Draft two stud WRs in the first three rounds then take a chance on some rookie RB(s) and a QB like Garrard, Rosenfels, Orton.

Who do you consider STUD WRs? Especially ones you would consider over most RBs? IMO, these are the only ones I would consider close to stud-level:R Wayne

Ca Johnson

B Edwards

L Fitzgerald

T Owens

R Moss

M Colston

G Jennings

A Johnson

A Boldin

Maybe these...

S Smith (CAR)

R White

D Bowe

B Marshall

M Crabtree (TBD)

P Burress

[/hijack]

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Due to the increased use of 2 RBs by most teams I am seriously considering drafting both RBs of a team and using my early picks on stud WRs. Under this theory I would spend my 1st rounder on say C. Johnson then grab 3 good WRs such as Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith and Brandon Marshall. Then I come back and get L. White and corner the market on TEN's run game. Plus the other later picks like Brown and Greene would provide a potentially lethal line-up should they emerge as starting RBs.

I doubt you will be able to get those guys but that's not the point. I agree with this post. Sound like a great plan this year..

I think I may look at things a little bit differently this year.....last year I went away from the stud RB strategy and tried this WR approach and it wasnt real successful.....I think taking two backs from the same team this early might really limit your options....I think due to the fact that many teams are going to two backs, this might be the time to lock up two stud backs that don't compete for carries.....and then fill in at WR.....in the example above with the TN running game....it sounds alright, but you may get damage on bye weeks and if the oline has a tough year, you could be in trouble....with many teams going two backs, a good move might be to lock up a few guys early that dont compete for carries....eta: I can say right now I will be going RB/RB with first two picks with hoefully both not competing for carries...then go with next best WR...then maybe another WR if no value at RB....and then in the 5th maybe try to beat somebody to the punch that is trying to do the above strategy and take that second back on a team that has potential to put up some good numbers

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Due to the increased use of 2 RBs by most teams I am seriously considering drafting both RBs of a team and using my early picks on stud WRs. Under this theory I would spend my 1st rounder on say C. Johnson then grab 3 good WRs such as Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith and Brandon Marshall. Then I come back and get L. White and corner the market on TEN's run game. Plus the other later picks like Brown and Greene would provide a potentially lethal line-up should they emerge as starting RBs.

anger Will Robinson: Best steer clear of this duo, trust me. LenWhale might get a pair of 1 yd plunge vulture TDs, but you'll never start him along with Johnson. It's generally one or the other. As you already know, White has a very low ceiling apart from the TDs, so not cornering a team's RBs and instead choosing a higher talent with a different pick in the later rounds (cough Mendenhall cough) would probably serve you better.

 

[FUBAR]

a little later...

7.16 Trent Edwards QB BUF

8.01 Mark Clayton WR BAL

 

[runner06]

Some of these guys might be taken in rounds 4-6. Others might be available after that.

RBs

Beanie Wells (rounds 3-5 guy) - Should get a lot of opportunities for TDs in potent offense like the Cardinals.

Darren McFadden - Probably better then what he showed last year since he had high ankle sprains on both ankles last year.

Derrick Ward -Earnest Graham was solid with the Bucs in 2007. If Ward can get the bulk of the carries he could too.

Cedric Bensen - No other viable back (other then maybe Scott). Could be a decent #2 with Palmer and Andre Smith

Donald Brown - Brown will probably drop farther then he should like Addai circa 2006. I could easily see both Addai and Brown finish as top 20 RBs in 2009.

James Davis - late round flyer, could be a 2009 version of Tim Hightower

Bernard Scott - another late round flyer.

WRs

Anthony Gonzalez (rounds 4-6 guy) - Has shown more then Reggie Wayne did in his first two years. As a Colts fan, I expect him to at least be a top 20 fantasy WR, probably a top 15, and maybe a fringe top 10.

Chad Johnson - Injury + No Palmer + being on a crappy team = not caring and having a bad 2008 season. With Palmer, I think he'll bounce back.

Michael Crabtree - A lot of experts say you shouldn't draft a rookie WR. However, rookie WRs having been showing more lately and I think Crabtree could as well. If he's there in the 8th or 9th round, I'd probably draft him.

Devin Hester - Probably can get him later in leagues that are made up of people from Indiana and Illinois.

Brian Robiskie - late round flyer; Could very well be a decent #3 WR in 12+ team leagues. I've read he's the most polished WR from this year's draft, but doesn't have elite potential. Could be a 65-75 catch, 700-900 yards receiving, 5-7 TD type guy.

Josh Morgan - late round flyer; had 3 TDs down the stretch last year. Jason Hill is a possibility if he is higher on the 49ers depth chart come August.

TEs

Greg Olsen - Cutler has to throw to someone and Olsen is probably the Bears best receiver.

Dustin Keller - performed well the 2nd half of last season.

 

[shredhead]

I think Lee Evans will benefit from teams keying on TO, thus Evans at 6.05 (fantasyfootballcalculator.com's ADP) seems like much better value than TO at 3.09. Also I like Eddie royal at 6.07 over Brandon marshall at 3.10

Others that I like at their ADP albiet early ADP:

Chad Johnson 5.07

Anthony Gonzalez 5.12

Darren Sproles 7.08

Carson Palmer 8.03

Donald Brown 9.09

Eli Manning 11.02

Just to name a few

http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp.php

 

[Erin Go Bragh]

I can't believe I am saying this but; How about Cedric Benson?He didn't play the first of the season but put up some really good numbers the second half.

Ding, ding, ding.

 

[MDSkinner]

I have no clue where he will go in redrafts this year, but it would seem to me that Larry Johnson has potential to be quite a bit of value for very little risk.

 

[Gopher State]

Jonathan Stewart is kind of a cheap one, but is probably the guy I'd target the most in that range. He'll improve on last year's numbers(when he was a solid RB3) and if DeAngelo goes down, he'll be the #1 RB in all of fantasy land in my opinion. There isn't another 4+ rounder with that upside.Darren McFadden is another one who i think could easily become a stud this year, especially in PPR leagues. He could go in round 3 if he tears up in camp and the preseason but as of now he's 4+ and I'm targeting him as a RB2 with elite upside.Dustin Keller is going about TE10 and is a tremendous value there. He could very well lead the Jets in both catches and TD's. Outside of a proven track record, I don't see any reason to take guys like Gates or Witten in round 3 or 4 when you can likely get Keller in round 8+. Of course, like McFadden, there is a good chance his value rises between now and draft day.Finally, I'd like to throw a deep sleeper out there(though he's very well known) Derrius Heyward-Bey. I don't see the Williamson comparisons at all and the path to being Oakland's #1 WR isn't very tough. Not saying I'm expecting 1,000 yards or 10 TD's, but I think he could be a low-end WR3 or a high-end WR4 that could be available after some kickers have been taken.

Darrius Heyward-Bey-WR-Raiders May. 9 - 5:33 pm et Darius Heyward-Bey dropped three passes in a row at one point during practice Saturday.Cue Mel Kiper! We obviously wouldn't take this news too seriously, but every drop by DHB is going to get extra attention. (He got a scolding from Jeff Garcia) At least Heyward-Bey is running with the first team. Source: Oakland Tribune I be very carefull about drafting DHB, he hasn't look great in early camp, I know it's early, but Troy Williamson started out the same way. He could be a 6 or 7 wr this year, but thats wavier wire material anyway.

 

[LawFitz]

Jonathan Stewart is kind of a cheap one, but is probably the guy I'd target the most in that range. He'll improve on last year's numbers(when he was a solid RB3) and if DeAngelo goes down, he'll be the #1 RB in all of fantasy land in my opinion. There isn't another 4+ rounder with that upside.Darren McFadden is another one who i think could easily become a stud this year, especially in PPR leagues. He could go in round 3 if he tears up in camp and the preseason but as of now he's 4+ and I'm targeting him as a RB2 with elite upside.Dustin Keller is going about TE10 and is a tremendous value there. He could very well lead the Jets in both catches and TD's. Outside of a proven track record, I don't see any reason to take guys like Gates or Witten in round 3 or 4 when you can likely get Keller in round 8+. Of course, like McFadden, there is a good chance his value rises between now and draft day.Finally, I'd like to throw a deep sleeper out there(though he's very well known) Derrius Heyward-Bey. I don't see the Williamson comparisons at all and the path to being Oakland's #1 WR isn't very tough. Not saying I'm expecting 1,000 yards or 10 TD's, but I think he could be a low-end WR3 or a high-end WR4 that could be available after some kickers have been taken.

Darrius Heyward-Bey-WR-Raiders May. 9 - 5:33 pm et Darius Heyward-Bey dropped three passes in a row at one point during practice Saturday.Cue Mel Kiper! We obviously wouldn't take this news too seriously, but every drop by DHB is going to get extra attention. (He got a scolding from Jeff Garcia) At least Heyward-Bey is running with the first team. Source: Oakland Tribune I be very carefull about drafting DHB, he hasn't look great in early camp, I know it's early, but Troy Williamson started out the same way. He could be a 6 or 7 wr this year, but thats wavier wire material anyway.

Here in lies the danger of press clippings this time of year. Aside from these three drops that have been seemingly covered by nearly every major news outlet and missing the last practice due to a sore hammy, DHB was praised for looking very smooth, fast and sure handed during this initial camp.Being a Raiders homer I've read pretty much every practice update so I am a little more in touch with them then other teams but it makes me wonder about all the other teams in the league and all the other blurbs I'm reading about the other rookies and up & comers. The press has a way of running with the extreme just to grab attention from readers even if it may not be indicative of reality.With the Raiders I'm able to at least get the bigger picture by reading all the updates not just the clips but I wonder how much of my thinking on other teams is being clouded by media misrepresentation this time of year.

 

[bjabrad]

The title of the thread doesn't really imply what I was showing in the OP...and that is you have 2 backs on the same team and you can get 1 of them in the 2nd but you can have the other in the 6th for whatever the reasons...and you think they may end up with somewhat similar stats or could be splitting time...to me it's much better to grab the guy later and load up on some true studs in the 1st and 2nd rounds. I don't think you can miss on guys like Fitz, AJ, R.Moss, you know those guys are going to produce so why not take a few back in the middle rounds instead.I will be very interested to see David Dodds perfect draft this year. Forever it seems he has implored everyone to load up on WRs in the 3rd thru 8th rounds and I don't see a lot of value there but I do see a ton at RB.

I'm in complete agreement and it's the same strategy that I used last season with good results. I can't predict the correct undervalued WR's that will finish in the top 10 so I realize that I have to overpay for stud WR's early. I will roll the dice that I can pick up some great RB's in rounds 4-15 since most people are still drafting based upon stud RB theory. Additionally, RB's are more likely to get injured than WR's and when that happens it is typically easier to predict who the next in line will be. If a WR gets hurt then they spread it around and even run more rather than giving it to the #2 WR in that position. A player I'll be targeting this year in the later rounds is QB Matt Hasselbeck who is very underrated, solid and who will have more weapons at his disposal with Houshmandzadeh.