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What QBs could call their own plays? (successfully) (1 Viewer)

azgroover

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Chicken or egg. Is Peyton great because he's given more freedom to call plays than any other QB in the league, or is he given that freedom because of his greatness? I feel there are likely some other good QBs who could be great, but due to circumstances beyond their control (O.C. egos), we'll never see their full potential. Who have you watched play enough that you would like to see get a chance to call their own game on the field? If there is already someone else that does get to call plays, let me know, I'm just unaware.

 
How are we supposed to know? None of us get in the huddle with these guys and see how they handle it.

 
They all have audible options....it is at their own discretion if they use them however. Most of what Manning does is dumby calls tho too...take that into account. He makes the defense think something is going to happen that doesn't at all.

 
Big Ben for sure. He called a lot of his own plays.

Not sure how true the last part is, but this was a question to Phil Simms and his answer:

Q: Do any NFL quarterbacks still call their own plays? If so, which ones?—Mike Cabin, Bothell, Wash.

A: Thanks to helmet microphones, very few do so anymore. CBS commentator and former New York Giants great Phil Simms [pictured] tells us: “The two that come closest are [the Colts’] Peyton Manning and [the Steelers’] Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger probably has called more of his own plays this year than anybody in pro football.

 
People that are listing Brady and Brees are off here. Those plays are called in from the sidelines, Sean Peyton calls almost all their plays and doesn't have Brees go with what feels right hardly ever. That is why Brees is so successful and they love him. He does what he's told and makes his adjustments to how the defense reacts as the play unfolds.

Brees, Brady, Big Ben...not sure why people think those guys are the OC for their teams, they aren't. Peyton is a rare breed and even greats like Dan Marino rarely would call their own play...audible and calling their own plays are a lot different.

 
I called my own plays in high school :popcorn:

Seriously though, more coaches should give this a shot. I remember a big part of it was being able to ask the WRs what they were seeing downfield which was a large part of what we based the calls off of. OCs miss out on this first-hand knowledge.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
People that are listing Brady and Brees are off here. Those plays are called in from the sidelines, Sean Peyton calls almost all their plays and doesn't have Brees go with what feels right hardly ever. That is why Brees is so successful and they love him. He does what he's told and makes his adjustments to how the defense reacts as the play unfolds. Brees, Brady, Big Ben...not sure why people think those guys are the OC for their teams, they aren't. Peyton is a rare breed and even greats like Dan Marino rarely would call their own play...audible and calling their own plays are a lot different.
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I have heard somewhere along the line that Big Ben calls his plays. Not to the extent that Peyton does, but he is given a lot of freedom. I think the others mentioned are simply playoff QBs for the most part, so it's easy to say they could do it. I suspect there are some lesser talked about QBs who are just as capable and might just have the wrong boss (OC) for what they do well. Peyton is extremely fortunate to have a staff who believes in his good judgment and is willing to live or die by it.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
I called my own plays in high school :unsure: Seriously though, more coaches should give this a shot. I remember a big part of it was being able to ask the WRs what they were seeing downfield which was a large part of what we based the calls off of. OCs miss out on this first-hand knowledge.
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That's pretty cool and exactly what I was trying to get at. There's something to be said for being out on the field and knowing what your squad can get away with just by the feel of things.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
People that are listing Brady and Brees are off here. Those plays are called in from the sidelines, Sean Peyton calls almost all their plays and doesn't have Brees go with what feels right hardly ever. That is why Brees is so successful and they love him. He does what he's told and makes his adjustments to how the defense reacts as the play unfolds. Brees, Brady, Big Ben...not sure why people think those guys are the OC for their teams, they aren't. Peyton is a rare breed and even greats like Dan Marino rarely would call their own play...audible and calling their own plays are a lot different.
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you better recheck your Big Ben info
 
3C said:
Big Ben for sure. He called a lot of his own plays.Not sure how true the last part is, but this was a question to Phil Simms and his answer:Q: Do any NFL quarterbacks still call their own plays? If so, which ones?—Mike Cabin, Bothell, Wash.A: Thanks to helmet microphones, very few do so anymore. CBS commentator and former New York Giants great Phil Simms [pictured] tells us: “The two that come closest are [the Colts’] Peyton Manning and [the Steelers’] Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger probably has called more of his own plays this year than anybody in pro football.
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Maybe if they want to get in the playoffs again, they'll stop letting him call his own
 
Zoomanji said:
3C said:
Big Ben for sure. He called a lot of his own plays.Not sure how true the last part is, but this was a question to Phil Simms and his answer:Q: Do any NFL quarterbacks still call their own plays? If so, which ones?—Mike Cabin, Bothell, Wash.A: Thanks to helmet microphones, very few do so anymore. CBS commentator and former New York Giants great Phil Simms [pictured] tells us: “The two that come closest are [the Colts’] Peyton Manning and [the Steelers’] Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger probably has called more of his own plays this year than anybody in pro football.
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Maybe if they want to get in the playoffs again, they'll stop letting him call his own
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The Steelers main problems this year were special teams and defense. BTW, check his playoff record vs St. Peyton...
 
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There's a picture of Joe Montana kneeling in the dirt during a timeout drawing a play in the dirt while Bill Walsh stands over him looking down at the play.. Always thought that was a great captured moment.

 
Stillers Jr. said:
The Steelers main problems this year were special teams and defense.
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That's kind of the whole point. The Colts have had problems on special teams and defense for the last 8 years, and been in the playoffs for every one of them (typically with a first round bye).The FIRST season the Steelers don't have a top 3 defense, they miss the playoffs. That's not coincidence. That shows you what drives that team. The defense wasn't even that BAD, they were just average to below average. They were 12th this year in points allowed. There were still 20 teams in the league worse than them, some of them in the playoffs. The Saints had the 20th ranked defense and won the Super Bowl.Take away Roethlisberger with the defenses of the last few years, and they're still a playoff team and super bowl contender (heck, they made the playoffs with Kordell Stewart back there a few times).Take away the defense and leave Roethlisberger, and they're nothing.
 
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
They all have audible options....it is at their own discretion if they use them however. Most of what Manning does is dumby calls tho too...take that into account. He makes the defense think something is going to happen that doesn't at all.
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:yes: All QB's have audibles as options, it's recognizing the defense and either checking out of the play or sticking with it.Pro QB's have to call OL protection, whether it's slide, man, zone, etc., along with the actual play. It is the most difficult position in all of sports to play, mentally.
 
Serious question here..... near the goal line, the Colts are trailing 31-17 and I believe on 2nd down they run Addai and lose a yard. Was that an audible? If so, it was a very bad call. Not only becuase it lost yardage, but the Colts needed to score twice and were short of time. The drop by Wayne followed and that was that.

Was the play called from the sidelline or was it a Manning audible?

 
rzrback77 said:
Serious question here..... near the goal line, the Colts are trailing 31-17 and I believe on 2nd down they run Addai and lose a yard. Was that an audible? If so, it was a very bad call. Not only becuase it lost yardage, but the Colts needed to score twice and were short of time. The drop by Wayne followed and that was that.Was the play called from the sidelline or was it a Manning audible?
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Peyton only calls the plays that work. Any that stink were surely called in by Moore, though anyone who calls a run in that situation is probably out-thinking themselves.
 
rzrback77 said:
Serious question here..... near the goal line, the Colts are trailing 31-17 and I believe on 2nd down they run Addai and lose a yard. Was that an audible? If so, it was a very bad call. Not only becuase it lost yardage, but the Colts needed to score twice and were short of time. The drop by Wayne followed and that was that.Was the play called from the sidelline or was it a Manning audible?
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Don't know. I'd say it was called from the sideline. The coaches in the box have make those calls.
 
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