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What to do with teams not in contention selling off players. (1 Viewer)

morris4903

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I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks

 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
Thats just how Dynasty Format works...
 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
What is the problem? That is a sound strategy in a dynasty format.
 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
It's dynasty. Why do you want to restrict what an owner can do to improve their team, whether it be for this season or the future? If they deal for draftpicks, both teams involved should pay some or all of the next season fees, but beyond that, let the owners manage their rosters and team prospects as they see fit.My $.02
 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
Thats just how Dynasty Format works...
See I'm the commissioner of this league and people are complaining about its just an arms race between teams in contention for the playoffs and the league becomes unbalanced. I just told them this is how this format works, but they want something done. That's why I came here.
 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
You cannot move the trade deadline into bye week territory.You have two options to eliminate this:a) Switch to redraftb) Increase the number of keepers
 
Agree with Road Warriors that both owners need to pay next season's fees when picks or other future considerations are being swapped.

 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
Thats just how Dynasty Format works...
See I'm the commissioner of this league and people are complaining about its just an arms race between teams in contention for the playoffs and the league becomes unbalanced. I just told them this is how this format works, but they want something done. That's why I came here.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the teams complaining are the ones that weren't able to strike a deal with the teams out of contention.There's one other option but it kind of defeats the purpose of a dynasty league. Don't allow trading of draft picks. You'll still get guys selling their old studs for young ones, but it will impact the league less.That's the problems with keeper leagues as opposed to true dynasty leagues where you keep your entire team (or most of it). Most teams, even if not contending, have more good players than they are able to keep. Why in the world would they ever hang on to them if their season is over, if the league rules allow them to turn their good but un-keepable players into an edge for next season??
 
We have had a similiar issues. He have done the following. 10 team league, Top 5 make the 'A' Playoffs. Bottom 5 make make the 'B' Playoffs. The winner of our league is the 'A' division playoff winner. With the following pay offs.

1st place league 20%

1st Place 'A' Playoffs 60%

1st Place 'B' Playoffs 20%

We also moved our trade deadline up to end of week 8.

This stops people from completely selling out.

 
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We have had a similiar issues. He have done the following. 10 team league, Top 5 make the 'A' Playoffs. Bottom 5 make make the 'B' Playoffs. The winner of our league is the 'A' division playoff winner. With the following pay offs.1st place league 20%1st Place 'A' Playoffs 60%1st Place 'B' Playoffs 20%We also moved our trade deadline up to end of week 8.This stops people from completely selling out.
That is bizarre. But interesting...
 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
You cannot move the trade deadline into bye week territory.You have two options to eliminate this:a) Switch to redraftb) Increase the number of keepers
:confused: I think the biggest issue is trying to run it as a typical dynasty league but you only keep 3 players.
 
We have had a similiar issues. He have done the following. 10 team league, Top 5 make the 'A' Playoffs. Bottom 5 make make the 'B' Playoffs. The winner of our league is the 'A' division playoff winner. With the following pay offs.1st place league 20%1st Place 'A' Playoffs 60%1st Place 'B' Playoffs 20%We also moved our trade deadline up to end of week 8.This stops people from completely selling out.
That solves the problem, but I would be a bit miffed if I finished second in the A playoffs, and the team who essentially finished 6th got paid and I did not.
 
We are all friends. It's more about bragging rights than anything else. This leaves even the guys around .500 still fighting to make the premium playoffs and be our champs. With a week 8 cut off only the truely weak can sell out and if they do they lose their shot at a 'B' championship. Anything can happen in the playoffs.

 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
Thats just how Dynasty Format works...
See I'm the commissioner of this league and people are complaining about its just an arms race between teams in contention for the playoffs and the league becomes unbalanced. I just told them this is how this format works, but they want something done. That's why I came here.
Maybe its different in keepers, I don't play those... I play in dynasties and this is the best time of yr to trade off a T Holt for a 1st or something.Theres one team out there that needs a little push
 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
In my 2 person keeper, during Super Bowl week 16, we have a "Toilet Bowl" where all team not in the Super Bowl compete...whoever has the best Optimal Score wins back their yearly entry fee.Helps prevent tanking and unnecessary roster shuffles for the following year (although, someone will pick up or trade for Brady or other dropped players, etc).Along the lines of tanking, the last place team is NOT guaranteed the first draft pick...they get more entries into the lottery for the top draft position (we use a weighted lottery, based on reverse order of finish).
 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
Thats just how Dynasty Format works...
See I'm the commissioner of this league and people are complaining about its just an arms race between teams in contention for the playoffs and the league becomes unbalanced. I just told them this is how this format works, but they want something done. That's why I came here.
If the trades are fair, I don't see the problem. This is just how dynasty/keepeer leagues work. Our league trade deadline is always the 1st of November and I usually carpet bomb the league with trade offers the week prior (thanks to Sig and Cecil on the 5MD for the idea). You always hear about deals that didn't happen (woulda, coulda, shoulda). It helped me land ADP this time around. Basically if there is no Collusion involved, then it's a good deal. Does it seem like the others are bitter that they didn't get a deal done?
 
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
Thats just how Dynasty Format works...
See I'm the commissioner of this league and people are complaining about its just an arms race between teams in contention for the playoffs and the league becomes unbalanced. I just told them this is how this format works, but they want something done. That's why I came here.
Understood. I commissioner a keep 2 league and had to deal with a similar situation. 1-7 team dealt off strength for a very nice keeper. Half or more of the league complained, including asking what I got in return for allowing the deal through. I told them basically what I said here... each owner has control over their team. I made sure both owners felt they were improving their team, either now or for the future. The commish responsibility stops there, IMO. The "read between the lines" message was for the whiners to shut up.
 
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Wanted to add that even though the NFL has very few trades; there are plenty of pro leagues that have the same thing happen as what's happening in your league. The week leading up to the NHL trade deadline is often a flurry of activity where aging superstars go to the highest bidders for draft picks and prospects. Contenders mortgage their future for a better shot at the title. Not only does it add to the excitement but it's good strategy for both teams involved.

The complainers are always going to be the guys unwilling or unable to pay the price for the good players from the bottom feeders. It's the same in the NHL.

 
Wanted to add that even though the NFL has very few trades; there are plenty of pro leagues that have the same thing happen as what's happening in your league. The week leading up to the NHL trade deadline is often a flurry of activity where aging superstars go to the highest bidders for draft picks and prospects. Contenders mortgage their future for a better shot at the title. Not only does it add to the excitement but it's good strategy for both teams involved.The complainers are always going to be the guys unwilling or unable to pay the price for the good players from the bottom feeders. It's the same in the NHL.
MLB baseball is the same way where the best players who are going to be free agents in the off-season and are on non-playoff teams,,,get traded to playoff contenders who can either "rent" them for the rest of the season or choose to sign them to a new contract in the off season. I'm trying to work some deals in my keep 2 keeper league but nobody wants to help me yet even if it means helping themselves. I think it would actually help my cause if we could keep more than 2 players since almost all teams, even the crappiest ones,,,almost have enough decent players that they can find two to keep for next year.
 
morris4903 said:
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
A 3 man keeper league doesn't really qualify as a dynasty league. Up the number of keepers to 5 or more. Chances are bad teams don't have more than 5 players that would be of value to other owners so trading away a top player will hurt their keeper situation going into next season.
 
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This just happened in one of my dynasty leagues... I am in contention, had a glut of RB's, and could use some WR help, so I traded Hightower, A Gonz (IND), M Kelly, and my 09 first for Braylon, K Smith, and JP Losman. Some people in the league lost their minds, saying "the rich are getting richer" and how it wasn't fair, not because of the values, but because my strong team got better by adding Braylon.

 
This just happened in one of my dynasty leagues... I am in contention, had a glut of RB's, and could use some WR help, so I traded Hightower, A Gonz (IND), M Kelly, and my 09 first for Braylon, K Smith, and JP Losman. Some people in the league lost their minds, saying "the rich are getting richer" and how it wasn't fair, not because of the values, but because my strong team got better by adding Braylon.
I'm not even sure you're the one who got richer in that deal. I have a hard time seeing how anyone could 'lose their mind' over it.
 
Didn't read the whole thread - but I think it's important to have a commitment from the owners for the next year if they plan on doing any trading. IE: I think saying, "Pay three years up front" discourages bad deals for owners that plan on ditching the team the next year.

 
In my 12 team redraft, we have the bottom 6 Toilet Bowl compete for first pick. Winner of TP Bowl get's first pick, 2nd place TPB 2nd pick ect...

 
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morris4903 said:
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
Off with their heads!
 
morris4903 said:
I need some ideas for my 10 team dynasty league with 3 keepers that stop people not in contention from just selling off their good players for draft picks/younger players. We have a Week 11 trade deadline, but it still doesn't really matter. Should we move it up? Any other ideas? Thanks
Off with their heads!
::reported::He's right of course. You could just get new owners.
 
We enjoy the FIRE SALES in our league. Keep 7 but we also deal in contract lengths so your 7 keepers arent always dictated by the top players. This year i lose Gore to his contract being up. I am borderline playoffs so I may sell him off to a team for a first. Means i get a shot at getting him back or one of the other FAs.

Fire Sales help the weak teams get better since they have a shot at multiple players in the first round. This year the FA draft will be deep due to luck of contracts. Last year it was light.

Our trade deadline is just before week 13 with playoffs weeks 14-17

GB the Fire Sale!!

 

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