What would happen if low skill workers (fast food, retail, etc) were.. (1 Viewer)

[Gachi]

..paid 50k a year?

What do you guys think?

Is that socialism?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Neat title

 

[McGarnicle]

It could probably work, but we should consid

 

[Bucky86]

CHAOS

 

[oso diablo]

paid by whom?

 

[Apple Jack]

There are people in retail who make a lot more than $50k.

 

[McGarnicle]

There are people in retail who make a lot more than $50k.

Yeah, Sam Walton and William Target, to name just two.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Who's going to pay them 50K a year? You? Sure, i'm all for that.

 

[WookieBooger]

wouldn't the cost of all goods and services rise proportionally?

 

[Apple Jack]

Who's going to pay them 50K a year? You? Sure, i'm all for that.

I would like to applaud you for posting a comment that did not have the words lib, liberal, socialist, Obama, or mainstream media in it.

 

[Apple Jack]

There are people in retail who make a lot more than $50k.

Yeah, Sam Walton and William Target, to name just two.

Don't forget Crazy Eddie.

 

[Gachi]

Don't these corporations net billions in profits a year?

The price of goods & services shouldn't be affected.

 

[oso diablo]

this is like freshman dorm room level discource

 

[Juxtatarot]

wouldn't the cost of all goods and services rise proportionally?

Certainly not.

 

[WookieBooger]

Don't these corporations net billions in profits a year?

The price of goods & services shouldn't be affected.

"Shouldn't"? -thats debateable. the fact that they would is certain.

 

[WookieBooger]

this is like freshman dorm room level discource

please feel free to actually add anything to the discussion

 

[ghostguy123]

Don't these corporations net billions in profits a year?

The price of goods & services shouldn't be affected.

Naive quote of the day?

 

[MC Gas Money]

No full time worker should be paid less than 25k per year

 

[Cjw_55106]

Quality workers would take those jobs and low skill workers would have no work options. Great plan.

 

[jon_mx]

Don't these corporations net billions in profits a year?

The price of goods & services shouldn't be affected.

Naive quote of the day?

Yeah, corporations don't need profits. Investors just want to risk their money so they can break even. This is brilliant. We should have just thought of eliminating profits before.

 

[Mister CIA]

50K might be about right for fast-food jobs in the near future. Keeping a bunch of robots operating requires some skill.

 

[msommer]

I came in here hoping the next word was going to be aliens or robots.

Anyway, to the OP,look up the thread on MacDonald's workers being paid $20 an hour in Denmark for the discussion you are trying to spark

 

[MC Gas Money]

50K might be about right for fast-food jobs in the near future. Keeping a bunch of robots operating requires some skill.

I would boycott any business that did that and I hope most people would too

 

[msommer]

50K might be about right for fast-food jobs in the near future. Keeping a bunch of robots operating requires some skill.

I would boycott any business that did that and I hope most people would too

It's definitely coming in Europe (where wages are higher). But it is being implemented as a supplement, if the lines are long you can order at the tablet instead of standing in line. Last I saw it was in a McD in Amsterdam airport about a month ago

 

[cstu]

Robots.

 

[KCitons]

If I remember correctly, there was an experiment done on this back in the early '80's by two brothers, Randolph and Mortimer Duke. It worked out pretty well for the low skilled guy.

 

[chauncey]

Most jobs in this country are low skill (office, construction, healthcare, education, sales, hospitality, government, etc) and many already make $50k/yr. Not sure I understand your question. Do you mean jobs that don't require a fancy college degree?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

50K might be about right for fast-food jobs in the near future. Keeping a bunch of robots operating requires some skill.

I would boycott any business that did that and I hope most people would too

It's definitely coming in Europe (where wages are higher). But it is being implemented as a supplement, if the lines are long you can order at the tablet instead of standing in line. Last I saw it was in a McD in Amsterdam airport about a month ago

Yeah, I don't get boycotting. Seems like a plus to me. I'd love to hit a couple of buttons instead having of this conversation:

"I'd like a double with cheese and and a Jr. bacon and that's all"

"A double with cheese and a Jr Bacon?"

"Yes please"

"Is that all today sir?"

"Yes please"

"Would you like a drink with that?"

"No thank you"

"Is the order on the screen correct?"

"Yes it is"

"That will be squawk screech three at the second window."

 

[KCitons]

Most jobs in this country are low skill (office, construction, healthcare, education, sales, hospitality, government, etc) and many already make $50k/yr. Not sure I understand your question. Do you mean jobs that don't require a fancy college degree?

I think what he is saying, is that everyone who doesn't currently make $50k a year at their job, would now make that.

 

[mr roboto]

Robots.

 

[KCitons]

Does that mean that everyone else's salary would rise by a like margin?

Wouldn't it have to? The Mcdonalds manager isn't going to make less than the kid on the fryers.

 

[PatsWillWin]

You'd put a lot of people out of work and make things more expensive.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Don't these corporations net billions in profits a year?

The price of goods & services shouldn't be affected.

I want to guess that you're in 8th grade, but the fact that you joined here in 2009 makes that idea a little creepy.

 

[Kevrunner]

Don't these corporations net billions in profits a year?

The price of goods & services shouldn't be affected.

Walmart has over 1.3 million employees, you don't think that increasing all of their salaries to 50K won't affect the price of goods, you gotta be kidding.

 

[Capella]

Don't these corporations net billions in profits a year?

The price of goods & services shouldn't be affected.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Opinions mean nothing

These are the facts...

If this entire system, planet wide, doesnt change so that everyones right to happiness is respected by sharing the resources then violent class warfare is inevitable.

The technology and resources exist so that suffering due to poverty can be significantly reduced if not nearly eradicated.

The only thing preventing that is blind greed and selfishness, the driving force behind all of the problems in society be they economical, religious or cultural. We as a species should be way beyond all this petty BS.

Im going to get blasted for these statements and it will usually go something like this....

"Blah blah blah lazy people yakkity yakkity I work harder than anyone yadda yadda yadda entitlement pffft pffft pfft I dont like helping people"

 

[flapgreen]

Opinions mean nothing

These are the facts...

If this entire system, planet wide, doesnt change so that everyones right to happiness is respected by sharing the resources then violent class warfare is inevitable.

The technology and resources exist so that suffering due to poverty can be significantly reduced if not nearly eradicated.

The only thing preventing that is blind greed and selfishness, the driving force behind all of the problems in society be they economical, religious or cultural. We as a species should be way beyond all this petty BS.

Im going to get blasted for these statements and it will usually go something like this....

"Blah blah blah lazy people yakkity yakkity I work harder than anyone yadda yadda yadda entitlement pffft pffft pfft I dont like helping people"

Go take another toke, hippie.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Don't these corporations net billions in profits a year?

The price of goods & services shouldn't be affected.

Gachi=Eminence?

 

[humpback]

Opinions mean nothing

These are the facts...

If this entire system, planet wide, doesnt change so that everyones right to happiness is respected by sharing the resources then violent class warfare is inevitable.

The technology and resources exist so that suffering due to poverty can be significantly reduced if not nearly eradicated.

The only thing preventing that is blind greed and selfishness, the driving force behind all of the problems in society be they economical, religious or cultural. We as a species should be way beyond all this petty BS.

Im going to get blasted for these statements and it will usually go something like this....

"Blah blah blah lazy people yakkity yakkity I work harder than anyone yadda yadda yadda entitlement pffft pffft pfft I dont like helping people"

 

[MC Gas Money]

Opinions mean nothing

These are the facts...

If this entire system, planet wide, doesnt change so that everyones right to happiness is respected by sharing the resources then violent class warfare is inevitable.

The technology and resources exist so that suffering due to poverty can be significantly reduced if not nearly eradicated.

The only thing preventing that is blind greed and selfishness, the driving force behind all of the problems in society be they economical, religious or cultural. We as a species should be way beyond all this petty BS.

Im going to get blasted for these statements and it will usually go something like this....

"Blah blah blah lazy people yakkity yakkity I work harder than anyone yadda yadda yadda entitlement pffft pffft pfft I dont like helping people"

Just to clarify

Are you laughing at me or the last part in quotations?

 

[Treynwreck3]

You raise the minimum wage to 50k a year, you will certainly see hyper-inflation. The cost of living will adjust to the new wage and nothing changes. Stupid premise.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Opinions mean nothing

These are the facts...

If this entire system, planet wide, doesnt change so that everyones right to happiness is respected by sharing the resources then violent class warfare is inevitable.

The technology and resources exist so that suffering due to poverty can be significantly reduced if not nearly eradicated.

The only thing preventing that is blind greed and selfishness, the driving force behind all of the problems in society be they economical, religious or cultural. We as a species should be way beyond all this petty BS.

Im going to get blasted for these statements and it will usually go something like this....

"Blah blah blah lazy people yakkity yakkity I work harder than anyone yadda yadda yadda entitlement pffft pffft pfft I dont like helping people"

Didn't you just start your own business? Hoping to take on any employees soon?

 

[MC Gas Money]

Opinions mean nothing

These are the facts...

If this entire system, planet wide, doesnt change so that everyones right to happiness is respected by sharing the resources then violent class warfare is inevitable.

The technology and resources exist so that suffering due to poverty can be significantly reduced if not nearly eradicated.

The only thing preventing that is blind greed and selfishness, the driving force behind all of the problems in society be they economical, religious or cultural. We as a species should be way beyond all this petty BS.

Im going to get blasted for these statements and it will usually go something like this....

"Blah blah blah lazy people yakkity yakkity I work harder than anyone yadda yadda yadda entitlement pffft pffft pfft I dont like helping people"

Didn't you just start your own business? Hoping to take on any employees soon?

No, not any time soon at least. I am the sole proprietor abd employee.

Why?

 

[mr roboto]

Look it's easy to pile on here but what Gachi unknowingly raises and MC further pushes is the issue of mechanization and the increasing lack of utility human labor contributes to cheap commodity goods and services. This is an issue many renowned economists have studied for years. Google the BIG.

Having said that yeah, raising minimum salaries to 50k ain't exactly the way to fight this.

 

[Capella]

Let's give everybody a million bucks. Then nobody will be poor.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Look it's easy to pile on here but what Gachi raises is the issue of mechanization and the increasing lack of utility human labor contributes to cheap commodity goods and services. This is an issue many renowned economists have studied for years. Google the BIG.

Having said that yeah, raising minimum salaries to 50k ain't exactly the way to fight this.

Personally I think there should be a combination of increased wages (although not to the tune of 50k), price control of necessities for life and a profit sharing corporate structure to make up the difference.

Wages should be at least somewhat commensurate with performance.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Opinions mean nothing

These are the facts...

If this entire system, planet wide, doesnt change so that everyones right to happiness is respected by sharing the resources then violent class warfare is inevitable.

The technology and resources exist so that suffering due to poverty can be significantly reduced if not nearly eradicated.

The only thing preventing that is blind greed and selfishness, the driving force behind all of the problems in society be they economical, religious or cultural. We as a species should be way beyond all this petty BS.

Im going to get blasted for these statements and it will usually go something like this....

"Blah blah blah lazy people yakkity yakkity I work harder than anyone yadda yadda yadda entitlement pffft pffft pfft I dont like helping people"

Didn't you just start your own business? Hoping to take on any employees soon?

No, not any time soon at least. I am the sole proprietor abd employee.

Why?

Just wondering if you're going to change your mind about this whole thing when you have to take on your first employee(s).

 

[MaxThreshold]

Look it's easy to pile on here but what Gachi raises is the issue of mechanization and the increasing lack of utility human labor contributes to cheap commodity goods and services. This is an issue many renowned economists have studied for years. Google the BIG.

Having said that yeah, raising minimum salaries to 50k ain't exactly the way to fight this.

Personally I think there should be a combination of increased wages (although not to the tune of 50k), price control of necessities for life and a profit sharing corporate structure to make up the difference.

Wages should be at least somewhat commensurate with performance.

That doesn't sound like a very progressive/enlightened position. That's never going to fly.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Opinions mean nothing

These are the facts...

If this entire system, planet wide, doesnt change so that everyones right to happiness is respected by sharing the resources then violent class warfare is inevitable.

The technology and resources exist so that suffering due to poverty can be significantly reduced if not nearly eradicated.

The only thing preventing that is blind greed and selfishness, the driving force behind all of the problems in society be they economical, religious or cultural. We as a species should be way beyond all this petty BS.

Im going to get blasted for these statements and it will usually go something like this....

"Blah blah blah lazy people yakkity yakkity I work harder than anyone yadda yadda yadda entitlement pffft pffft pfft I dont like helping people"

Didn't you just start your own business? Hoping to take on any employees soon?

No, not any time soon at least. I am the sole proprietor abd employee.Why?

Just wondering if you're going to change your mind about this whole thing when you have to take on your first employee(s).

I dont need the government to tell me to treat my employees well.

I already know to do that.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Look it's easy to pile on here but what Gachi raises is the issue of mechanization and the increasing lack of utility human labor contributes to cheap commodity goods and services. This is an issue many renowned economists have studied for years. Google the BIG.

Having said that yeah, raising minimum salaries to 50k ain't exactly the way to fight this.

Personally I think there should be a combination of increased wages (although not to the tune of 50k), price control of necessities for life and a profit sharing corporate structure to make up the difference.Wages should be at least somewhat commensurate with performance.

That doesn't sound like a very progressive/enlightened position. That's never going to fly.

What are you trying to say?