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Darrinll40
Footballguy
At first I though, ewww gross. Then I realized that it probably didn't mean what I first thought.
I am reading "The Destiny of the Sword" by Dave Duncan. It is the third in the series and I have enjoyed all of them.
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cstu
Footballguy
I'm on a bit of a Heinlein kick lately having read The Door Into Summer and almost done with Citizen of the Galaxy. I'd read TDIS a long time ago but somehow I missed COTG. I don't think I've read Starship Troopers either.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Right now I am reading Predicatbly Irrational. Only on the 3rd chapter, but really liking it. RIYL Gladwell's books, Freakanomics, et al.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Getting back into reading especially because TV just seems to be pretty terrible now.
I seem to be stuck between books because I'm having trouble picking my next one.
My previous reading habits have been horror / scifi and lots of King / Clarke / Crichton.
Looking to branch out and picked up a bunch of books for the queue from the book draft.
What are your thoughts on where to go next with what I have below?
Based on what I have, any recommendations that I should add?
Thoughts on tackling Infinite Jest without much of a literary background / fortitude?
- The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time: A Novel by Mark Haddon [Kindle Edition]
- The Devil in the White City: A Saga of Magic and Murder at the Fair that Changed America by Erik Larson [Kindle Edition]
- Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close: A Novel by Jonathan Safran Foer [Kindle Edition]
- Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov [Kindle Edition]
- Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace [Kindle Edition]
Want to read this based on what I've heard but a little intimidated by reviews of the complexity.
Usually I have gone with straightforward fiction but I did love the connect the dots complexity of the TV show "Lost".
- House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski (Paperback)
- Last Days of Summer Updated Ed: A Novel by Steve Kluger (Paperback)
Holding off on these as I'd feel bad reading a book just after my wife just got me a Kindle.
- The Passage: A Novel by Justin Cronin [Kindle Edition]
Waiting on this one until he's further along in the trilogy, I hate waiting.
TIA!
I seem to be stuck between books because I'm having trouble picking my next one.
My previous reading habits have been horror / scifi and lots of King / Clarke / Crichton.
Looking to branch out and picked up a bunch of books for the queue from the book draft.
What are your thoughts on where to go next with what I have below?
Based on what I have, any recommendations that I should add?
Thoughts on tackling Infinite Jest without much of a literary background / fortitude?
- The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time: A Novel by Mark Haddon [Kindle Edition]
- The Devil in the White City: A Saga of Magic and Murder at the Fair that Changed America by Erik Larson [Kindle Edition]
- Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close: A Novel by Jonathan Safran Foer [Kindle Edition]
- Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov [Kindle Edition]
- Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace [Kindle Edition]
Want to read this based on what I've heard but a little intimidated by reviews of the complexity.
Usually I have gone with straightforward fiction but I did love the connect the dots complexity of the TV show "Lost".
- House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski (Paperback)
- Last Days of Summer Updated Ed: A Novel by Steve Kluger (Paperback)
Holding off on these as I'd feel bad reading a book just after my wife just got me a Kindle.
- The Passage: A Novel by Justin Cronin [Kindle Edition]
Waiting on this one until he's further along in the trilogy, I hate waiting.
TIA!
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
The only two I've read on your list are Larsen & Cronin - really liked both. I can understand your reluctance on The Passage, so my default recommendation is Devil In The White City.
Thorn
Footballguy
I haven't read Infinte Jest, but Extremely Loud, Last Days of Summer and Curious Incident are three of my favorite books (I drafted two of them and would have drafted the third if things had fallen differently). Extremely Loud is probably the most demanding, but that's not saying much. It's not that long, there are just some points where the author plays with form instead of just giving you straight prose.The other two are easy reads, but interestingly all 3 have an untrustworthy narrator, so you have to take what they tell you with a grain of salt/consider what they don't understand or know. Last Days of Summer is the easiest to read IMO. All great choices, though.
parrot
Footballguy
If Lonesome Dove is your yardstick, you're likely to be disappointed in the pre/sequels. Lonesome Dove is my favorite novel, I'm completely 'meh' on the rest of the series. Without giving too much away, it's been suggested that some of the things McMurtry did in Streets of Laredo were out of spite at CBS for having someone else produce a script for the sequel to the Lonesome Dove miniseries (though they had every legal right to do so as I understand it). I don't know how true it is but that's a theory I have read. In the sequels he never really seems to find Gus and Call's voices IMO. They just never ring true the way they do in Lonesome Dove. I reread the original about once a year, I've been trying to get through Comanche Moon for six months or better.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
House of Leaves is one of my all-time favorites. I loved the story, the story within the story and the "gimmick" of the formatting. Just a fun, intriguing book with all kinds of hidden clues and entertainment.
Extremely Loud and Devil in the White City are also really good. You have a great list there and most of those titles have been talked about in this thread.
Extremely Loud and Devil in the White City are also really good. You have a great list there and most of those titles have been talked about in this thread.
kupcho1
Footballguy
I can't recommend Infinite Jest highly enough. Top 10 all time for me, for sure.Don't be intimidated; it's not like it's Finnegan's Wake. I think if you can stick through the first section or so, you'll be hooked. It's a fascinating book.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Fixed.
Foosball God
Foos
Based on all the chatter I decided to download Lonesome Dove on my Kindle.
badmojo1006
Footballguy
We invaded France in 1994?
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Just finishing up The Code Book. Good and interesting read. Talks about how cryptography has been used throughout history and goes into detail about how the ciphers were broken in certain situations (Mary Queen of Scots, WWI and WWII, Navejo code talkers) and how a couple different ancient languages were deciphered (Heiroglyphs and Moinien (sp?)). Once it gets to the computer era it starts to fall apart simply because the book was written in '99. When it is using examples of high end computers, it talks about P1 100mhz with 8mb of RAM!
Chaka
Footballguy
I hope you find that it was an excellent decision.
dharmapunk
Footballguy
Psst, it's a tip Post-War Japanese Cultural Consciousness.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
Damn. That's right. I blew it.
dharmapunk
Footballguy
D_House
Footballguy
Can you expand? I still think about the book occasionally.
krista4
Footballguy
The first three on your list are the most accessible (I have not read the Kluger or Cronin books, though), and I thought each one of them was excellent. You could rip through either Curious Incident or Devil in the White City very fast and then turn to the others. Have you read other Nabokov before? I think Pale Fire is one you would want to work your way up to.
Infinite Jest will be highly rewarding but takes dedication. You don't need a literary background, just dedication and fortitude.
I LOVE House of Leaves but it is also a bit challenging and difficult to get used to it. Well worth sticking with, though. It might serve as a good primer before tackling Infinite Jest.
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krista4
Footballguy
Finished Freedom by Jonathan Franzen. I'm more convinced than ever that he is capable of writing 2/3 of a great book. In this case (unlike The Corrections, which was great for the first 2/3 and then became practically unreadable), it started off slowly for me, but when he switched POVs from the primary female protagonist to the two main male characters, the book improved immensely. He's quite talented when writing the male POV, notsomuch from the female. It was telling to me that he didn't even attempt the perspective of Jessica or Lalitha. I didn't find the female characters in this book well-drawn or believable, for the most part. That said, when he's on, he's on, and some of the writing is almost breathtaking. Worth reading; just 1/3 missing for me.
JFT Ben
Footballguy
I'm about to start Devil in the White City based on peoples recommendations and have queued up Curious Incident and Extremely Loud.
Only one I've read was Infinite Jest, which takes some muscle to get through the beginning but is one of the best stories I've read. I've wondered if my enjoyment of the book was due to my familiarity with some of the key themes, because it was an engrossing story or both. I plan to re-read it sometime in the not too distant future. One of the oddest books I've read too with DFW's footnotes that go on for pages and pages at times. I've read some of DFW's other books and stories liked those as well. Highly recommend it, but like I said, it's a grind at first but one that pays off the last 75-80% of the book.
Only one I've read was Infinite Jest, which takes some muscle to get through the beginning but is one of the best stories I've read. I've wondered if my enjoyment of the book was due to my familiarity with some of the key themes, because it was an engrossing story or both. I plan to re-read it sometime in the not too distant future. One of the oddest books I've read too with DFW's footnotes that go on for pages and pages at times. I've read some of DFW's other books and stories liked those as well. Highly recommend it, but like I said, it's a grind at first but one that pays off the last 75-80% of the book.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
about halfway through and i agree that this is one of the easiest reads in a long time. haven't laughed this much at a book in a while, either, yet so many poignant moments as well. really impressive how benioff shifts between the two moods seamlessly. and Kolya is really one of my favorite literary characters ever.<!--quoteo(post=12799967:date=Jan 11 2011, 11:19 AM:name=the moops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (the moops @ Jan 11 2011, 11:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12799967"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11393569:date=Jan 20 2010, 08:36 AM:name=Tough As Nails)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tough As Nails @ Jan 20 2010, 08:36 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=11393569"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just finished City of Thieves by David Benioff. Definitely recommended. It's about a boy and a soldier that are forced to become friends in WWII Russia. If you know even a little bit about the horrific nature of the fighting/surviving that went on...you'll be really interested in the details. If you don't know anything going in, it's a great way to get an overview of what kinds of things were really going on in the Eastern front of that war.
Very well written. It's about 250 pages, but you'll swear it's only about 100 because it flies by so fast and reads so easily. The last 5 pages left a little to be desired...but it's a minor complaint.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Awesome book. Just finished it myself.
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Just finished a crime novel called The Ghosts of Belfast by an Irish writer named Steven Neville.
Very good novel. Doesn't break any new ground, but it is interesting, well written and fast paced.
RIYL: Ken Bruen, Ian Rankin, Henning Mankell
Very good novel. Doesn't break any new ground, but it is interesting, well written and fast paced.
RIYL: Ken Bruen, Ian Rankin, Henning Mankell
facook
Footballguy
about halfway through and i agree that this is one of the easiest reads in a long time. haven't laughed this much at a book in a while, either, yet so many poignant moments as well. really impressive how benioff shifts between the two moods seamlessly. and Kolya is really one of my favorite literary characters ever.<!--quoteo(post=12799967:date=Jan 11 2011, 11:19 AM:name=the moops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (the moops @ Jan 11 2011, 11:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12799967"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=11393569:date=Jan 20 2010, 08:36 AM:name=Tough As Nails)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tough As Nails @ Jan 20 2010, 08:36 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=11393569"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just finished City of Thieves by David Benioff. Definitely recommended. It's about a boy and a soldier that are forced to become friends in WWII Russia. If you know even a little bit about the horrific nature of the fighting/surviving that went on...you'll be really interested in the details. If you don't know anything going in, it's a great way to get an overview of what kinds of things were really going on in the Eastern front of that war.
Very well written. It's about 250 pages, but you'll swear it's only about 100 because it flies by so fast and reads so easily. The last 5 pages left a little to be desired...but it's a minor complaint.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Awesome book. Just finished it myself.
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Agree with you completely. Kolya is a great character.
igbomb
Footballguy
Gideon's Sword by Lincoln Child and Douglas Preston
I'll preface this by saying that I've really enjoyed these guys previous work. I've read every novel they've published, both together and independently, and enjoyed most of them.
But, honestly, Pendergast has grown stale over time. The last few of his novels have been decent, but the series unfortunately peaked way back at The Cabinet of Curiosities.
So I was kind of pumped to hear that they were kicking off a new series. Though I thought the name was silly, at least there should be a sense of freshness.
Ugh. Even the worst Pendergast story is far, far better than this book. Gideon Crew is a completely flat character that I couldn't care less about. The story was all over the place. Too many characters were introduced only to be done away with a few chapters later. And the story was just dull. It didn't have any of the mystery of their other works.
All in all, this was my least favorite Preston/Child novel. I'll still read the next Pendergast novel, but I hope these guys can find their mojo again.
I gave this book one star on goodreads.
I'll preface this by saying that I've really enjoyed these guys previous work. I've read every novel they've published, both together and independently, and enjoyed most of them.
But, honestly, Pendergast has grown stale over time. The last few of his novels have been decent, but the series unfortunately peaked way back at The Cabinet of Curiosities.
So I was kind of pumped to hear that they were kicking off a new series. Though I thought the name was silly, at least there should be a sense of freshness.
Ugh. Even the worst Pendergast story is far, far better than this book. Gideon Crew is a completely flat character that I couldn't care less about. The story was all over the place. Too many characters were introduced only to be done away with a few chapters later. And the story was just dull. It didn't have any of the mystery of their other works.
All in all, this was my least favorite Preston/Child novel. I'll still read the next Pendergast novel, but I hope these guys can find their mojo again.
I gave this book one star on goodreads.
facook
Footballguy
I was a huge Pendergast fan for a while, but you are spot on in this analysis. I will also read the next Pendergast, but it's kind of for the same reason I keep watching The Office...I loved it once upon a time, and it isn't horrible, so I'm sticking with it. Considering your review of Gideon's Torch, I think I'll skip that one.
facook
Footballguy
Recently finished Storm Prey, the latest Davenport mystery by John Sandford. Guy knows how to write entertaining, easy-to-read mysteries. 
Now reading Mr. Clarinet by Nick Stone. Ex-cop, ex-p.i., ex-con (same guy) investigating child abduction in Haiti during the U.S. military action there in the mid-90s. Stone's debut shows a lot of promise, with interesting characters and a magnetic setting. Other than some inconsistency in the writing (paraphrasing - "He wasn't interested in any woman, cause he couldn't get over his dead wife"...one chapter later "He decided to try working his game on this woman, she was too hot to ignore")which could have used better editing, it's an entertaining, engaging mystery. Recommended.
Now reading Mr. Clarinet by Nick Stone. Ex-cop, ex-p.i., ex-con (same guy) investigating child abduction in Haiti during the U.S. military action there in the mid-90s. Stone's debut shows a lot of promise, with interesting characters and a magnetic setting. Other than some inconsistency in the writing (paraphrasing - "He wasn't interested in any woman, cause he couldn't get over his dead wife"...one chapter later "He decided to try working his game on this woman, she was too hot to ignore")which could have used better editing, it's an entertaining, engaging mystery. Recommended.
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NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Born To Run.
Sort of the bible of barefoot running.
Sort of the bible of barefoot running.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
Totally agree with Tre's comment about the ending of City of Thieves. I had seen it before I finished and was waiting for the letdown and was still disappointed. Really betrays the sensibilities of the entire book.
piratemike
HARRRRRLite™
Trip upcoming, want to get through Pale Fire.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
How many of you have read a lot of the 'classics'? I have an opportunity to take a Great Books class next year - here is the book list.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
trader jake
Footballguy
I really enjoyed "Nickel and Dimed". It's a quick read but made an impact most books don't.Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs is a fantastic book. I read it multiple times years ago but never went on and read other of Chuck Klosterman's books until the last few weeks. I really enjoyed "Eating The Dinosaur" and I just started "IV" yesterday.
Good choice, the story was fascinating to me. When I read the book I knew very little about him and was just blown away a number of times. There's also the 30 for 30 film "The Two Escobars" that was interesting as well.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
What?! all those books in one class?I count 22 I've read, along with parts of the Greek and Roman philosophers and The Master and Margarita on my list to read. Looks like I may have a new challenge here.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
Does this book advocate barefoot running for everyone? Is it not true that most people probably should not do this due to likelihood of injury? I don't really have any idea what the answer is, but I thought I read that somewhere.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
This just came in the mail the other day.Everyday Survival - While it started out interesting, it started jumping all over the place about halfway through and lost (if it ever had) a common theme. Seemed like a great big setup for global warming. 
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Chaka
Footballguy
Seems like a lot of books for one semester. Are you sure you will be reading these or just working with excerpts that touch a common theme?
rolyaTy
You're Heinous
Just finished recently a couple of Ken Follett novels:
World without end
Jackdaws
World Without End was a sequel, a couple hundred years later, from Pillars of the Earth, which I also read a while back. I remembered it being very well written, great characters, but damn depressing. World without end was just as well written, maybe better, and I really enjoyed the story...cracked into my top 10 list. I love long books like that, with great characters, interesting plot twists, and historical fiction is rising up on my list of favorite genres.
Jackdaws was good, pretty entertaining and interesting, but it lacked the depth and complexity of world without end.
Reading Eye of the Needle now. Starting out OK.
Also read recently "Rebecca" by Daphne somebody, and it was a quality book...very well written, interesting, good characters, but not my cup of tea really.
World without end
Jackdaws
World Without End was a sequel, a couple hundred years later, from Pillars of the Earth, which I also read a while back. I remembered it being very well written, great characters, but damn depressing. World without end was just as well written, maybe better, and I really enjoyed the story...cracked into my top 10 list. I love long books like that, with great characters, interesting plot twists, and historical fiction is rising up on my list of favorite genres.
Jackdaws was good, pretty entertaining and interesting, but it lacked the depth and complexity of world without end.
Reading Eye of the Needle now. Starting out OK.
Also read recently "Rebecca" by Daphne somebody, and it was a quality book...very well written, interesting, good characters, but not my cup of tea really.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
You are correct - it is a year long course. And according to the website not all books will be read completely, instead 'most will be touched on in some way'. I am leaning toward doing it as I figure the books are considered classics for a reason.
igbomb
Footballguy
Follett's historical fiction is the goods, his thrillers are just ok. Having said that, his historical stuff is LONG. I still haven't worked up the nerve to attack his latest. It sits on my shelf, mocking me.
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igbomb
Footballguy
Loved this book. And yes, it advocates barefoot running for most. It is definitely coming from a specific perspective, but it is very compelling and quite convincing. Plus, the surrounding story is great. One of my recent favorites that I recommend and/or give to friends and family.I put this book in the same class as anything written by Krakauer.
rolyaTy
You're Heinous
I'm all about the long books. I get post-partem depression when I finish books like World Without End, because I've been with the characters for so long, but it's worth it. Feel like I learn a lot about people while being entertained at the same time. Good stuff...I'll have to look into his entire collection of books because I've been very impressed by what I've read so far.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Just finished Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage by Alfred Lansing. Fantastic book.
Are there any other good explorer / survival books? Finished 'The Lost City of Z' a couple months ago and really enjoyed it as well.
Are there any other good explorer / survival books? Finished 'The Lost City of Z' a couple months ago and really enjoyed it as well.
Foosball God
Foos
I thought it was a very good book, but I wouldn't rank it in my all time favorites. Very glad I read it though.
JFT Ben
Footballguy
I'm about half way through the Devil in the White City. Very good book for those that can stomach the subject matter (the World's Fair stuff is fascinating) but it's one thing to read about a serial killer in some newspaper article, but another to bring one to life as the author has. I am having a difficult time sleeping because of this book and think I'll be moving on to some lighter subject matter. As an aside, I read that Leonardo DiCaprio will be playing the part of HH Holmes in the movie anticipated to be released in 2012.
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Knocked out Michael (So Cold The River) Kortya's The Cypress House. I liked it better than So Cold - seemed to have a more consistent voice & the characters had more depth. It's about a WW1 vet during the Depression named Arlen Wagner. In his travels to find work, he ends up in a mysterious fishing resort hotel near Tampa. There he runs into several people with vague motives, corruption, betrayal, the historic '35 hurricane, and death. As in So Cold, there's an element of the supernatural in this one - Arlen can sense when someone's about to die - but it's not heavy-handed and is just a small part of the story (though it IS the catalyst that sets everything in motion). It's a tad slow in the middle - lots of exposition - but the last 100 pages or so fly by and Kortya keeps the twists coming. His sense of time & place feels really genuine. There are a couple of characters that border on caricature - a fat Southern sherriff, for one - but all in all, an enjoyable read.
I'm doing a quick re-read of King's Hearts In Atlantis since I recently finished a run through The Dark Tower. Then I think it's on to Joe Abercrombia. But there are some books I'm really looking forward to coming out this year - new Dan Simmons, new George RR Martin, new Erik Larsen, and new Stephen King among others. I've also got a bunch of others on my Wish List that were recommended by Amazon. Anyone read any of these?
Voice Of The Fire - Alan Moore (never heard of him)
The Given Day - Dennis Lehane (I've done Mystic River & Shutter Island; this sounds a little different)
The Anatomy Of Ghosts - Andrew Taylor (never heard of him)
A Conspiracy Of Paper - David Liss (name sounds familiar - from here maybe?)
Twelve - Jaspar Kent (vampires during Napolean's invasion of Russia)
Stone's Fall - Ian Pears (I have heard of him but haven't read him)
Undiscovered Country - Lin Enger (I think he's the brother of Leif "Peace Like A River" Enger)
I'm doing a quick re-read of King's Hearts In Atlantis since I recently finished a run through The Dark Tower. Then I think it's on to Joe Abercrombia. But there are some books I'm really looking forward to coming out this year - new Dan Simmons, new George RR Martin, new Erik Larsen, and new Stephen King among others. I've also got a bunch of others on my Wish List that were recommended by Amazon. Anyone read any of these?
Voice Of The Fire - Alan Moore (never heard of him)
The Given Day - Dennis Lehane (I've done Mystic River & Shutter Island; this sounds a little different)
The Anatomy Of Ghosts - Andrew Taylor (never heard of him)
A Conspiracy Of Paper - David Liss (name sounds familiar - from here maybe?)
Twelve - Jaspar Kent (vampires during Napolean's invasion of Russia)
Stone's Fall - Ian Pears (I have heard of him but haven't read him)
Undiscovered Country - Lin Enger (I think he's the brother of Leif "Peace Like A River" Enger)
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
One of the biggest surprises for me when reading this book was that I had never heard of Holmes - he makes Jack the Ripper and Ted Bundy seem like choir boys. Although I wasn't picturing DiCaprio when I was reading it, he's a good choice for the role. I'd imagine that much of Larsen's description of the building of the White City will be scrapped for the film and instead it will concentrate on the Holmes part of the story.
jb1020
Footballguy
My wife has begged me to begin reading books, so I dove on it. I used to play PS3 while she read. I feel a little to old for the games now.
I'm in the middle of "Operation Mincemeat" It started a little slow for me, but has really picked up.
Basically, its a book about spy's and deception that went on during WWII.
I'm in the middle of "Operation Mincemeat" It started a little slow for me, but has really picked up.
Basically, its a book about spy's and deception that went on during WWII.
facook
Footballguy
The Given Day was very good. You're right, it's nothing like Mystic River or Shutter Island, but I enjoyed it thoroughly. Stone's Fall is good, but Instance of the Fingerpost by Pears is the one I'd recommend first.
Please report back if you do read Twelve. I have that on my wish list.
