What's with all the crying today? (1 Viewer)

[datonn]

Seriously. I get two "breaking news" submissions hitting my email box this afternoon with "FBGs cost me my league because they got the wrong kicker projected for the Giants this week" (when everybody and their brother who spends five minutes following the NFL had probably heard that Coughlin naming his starting placekicker for Week 12 was a game-time decision). Then I come in the Pool tonight and see this:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=442675

Folks DO realize that although this site offers some absolutely phenomenal informational resources, the stats on Thursday/Sunday/Monday come down to an educated guess....right?! If it wasn't an educated guess, and Dodds et al knew ALL the answers to ALL the questions, week-in and week-out, they wouldn't have time to show up around here...as they'd be too busy yelling at their pool boy to get them another towel at their sprawling 240-acre mansion sea-side somewhere in the South Mediterranean.

Folks get 'em wrong sometimes. Dodds isn't always right with his projections. Jene occasionally misses something on the IDP front. Bloom occasionally gets the evaluation of a college prospect wrong. It happens! All the garbage today though from folks saying "you cost me my league" just irritated the HECK out of me. GET OVER IT. They are right far, FAR more often than they are wrong...and they are resource #1 that I use on a weekly basis to make my decisions. They don't make my decisions though...I do. Maybe a few whiners today seem to forget that THEY ultimately turned in their own line-up cards too....

 

[Ladsud]

People just being bitter about getting knocked out the playoffs today and rather not blame themselves. Its always someone else's fault.

 

[PhilLynott]

Seriously. I get two "breaking news" submissions hitting my email box this afternoon with "FBGs cost me my league because they got the wrong kicker projected for the Giants this week" (when everybody and their brother who spends five minutes following the NFL had probably heard that Coughlin naming his starting placekicker for Week 12 was a game-time decision). Then I come in the Pool tonight and see this:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=442675

Folks DO realize that although this site offers some absolutely phenomenal informational resources, the stats on Thursday/Sunday/Monday come down to an educated guess....right?! If it wasn't an educated guess, and Dodds et al knew ALL the answers to ALL the questions, week-in and week-out, they wouldn't have time to show up around here...as they'd be too busy yelling at their pool boy to get them another towel at their sprawling 240-acre mansion sea-side somewhere in the South Mediterranean.

Folks get 'em wrong sometimes. Dodds isn't always right with his projections. Jene occasionally misses something on the IDP front. Bloom occasionally gets the evaluation of a college prospect wrong. It happens! All the garbage today though from folks saying "you cost me my league" just irritated the HECK out of me though. GET OVER IT. They are right far, FAR more often than they are wrong...and they are resource #1 that I use on a weekly basis to make my decisions. They don't make my decisions though...I do. Maybe a few whiners today seem to forget that THEY ultimately turned in their own line-up cards too....

HEY, Hey, hey. you need to back down. You are asking people to take responsibility for their own decisions and that is just wrong. "So it is written, so it shall be done." Why should I manage my own team when I can blame all of you instead??

 

[DarkManX]

Its always easier to blame someone else.

 

[datonn]

Folks DO realize that although this site offers some absolutely phenomenal informational resources, the stats on Thursday/Sunday/Monday come down to an educated guess....right?! If it wasn't an educated guess, and Dodds et al knew ALL the answers to ALL the questions, week-in and week-out, they wouldn't have time to show up around here...as they'd be too busy yelling at their pool boy bikini-clad co-eds to get them another towel at their sprawling 240-acre mansion sea-side somewhere in the South Mediterranean.

I do need to apologize profusely for one MAJOR error in my initial posting. I have subsequently corrected the error in the quoted text above. I promise...such horrible oversight and egregious errors shall never occur in my postings again in the future....

 

[SuperJohn96]

If I don't complain, can I be the pool boy?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

People blaming others for a loss is annoying, but the soapbox cavalry chastising them are almost as annoying. At this point in the season people are going to fall out of the playoff race, and they'll be frustrated. It's understandable on game days and it might spill out of the venting thread into other areas. It's no big deal.

This is crunch time, right? Some folks are getting crunched. Have a little sympathy for the fallen. They'll pick themselves up for next year, though.

 

[JHuber77]

Thats why I suggested taking Longwell in the Giants kicker thread. Crying happens every year about this time, especially when money is involved.

 

[prosopis]

Kickers are stupid.

 

[bcr8f]

People just being bitter about getting knocked out the playoffs today and rather not blame themselves. Its always someone else's fault.

The credo of the republican party.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Yeah, I agree datonn....this is getting old real quick

and bcr88, let's not go FFA in here.....some would disagree with you.

 

[Tree Shaker]

People just being bitter about getting knocked out the playoffs today and rather not blame themselves. Its always someone else's fault.

The credo of the republican party.

And the Democratic Party when they lose elections.

 

[Shrek]

When people finally realize that all of the FBG content is only a tool, and not the definitive say on fantasy football, they will be a lot better off. Then, not only will they quit blaming others for their losses, they can also take a lot more personal credit for their successes.

 

[fatness]

People just being bitter about getting knocked out the playoffs today

Same thing happens every year. Eventually people will direct their frustration in more positive directions, like saying they're quitting fantasy football or starting another thread denouncing Mike Vick. Good times.

 

[FlapJacks]

- "Dodds DEF projections in week 12 cost me a playoff spot

How could he have rated Denver's DEF that high?"

 

[habsfan]

When you sell advice for a living, you shouldn't be surprised when some people actually take that advice - nor should you be surprised when people occasionally complain if it doesn't work out (whether justified or not). It may be unfair to blame the FBG for your season but I'm sure the FBG would tell you it goes with the territory.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Its always easier to blame someone else.

It's the American Way. Everyone's a victim.

 

[Banger]

When you sell advice for a living, you shouldn't be surprised when some people actually take that advice - nor should you be surprised when people occasionally complain if it doesn't work out (whether justified or not). It may be unfair to blame the FBG for your season but I'm sure the FBG would tell you it goes with the territory.

If anyone has any illusion that FBG can somehow see the future with their predictions should get another hobby ASAP. They don't need me to speak for them but they give "advice" based on trends, stats, etc and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It's about probability, not every piece of advice is going to work but if you follow the concept over time it works.The poker analogy is a good one IMO and just because you go in with aces doesn't mean you are going to win the hand. It gives you a good statistical chance to win but it's not a guarantee. If you happen to get your aces cracked it doesn't mean that you made the wrong move.

Take yesterday for instance, I made a move over the weekend, not based on their cheatsheets but with the help of them, where I benched Chris Johnson and Larry Johnson for Hillis. I suspect others may have as well and I suspect there will be very few threads about how that marginal move (or others like it) helped teams win their games this week.

 

[Lash]

People just being bitter about getting knocked out the playoffs today and rather not blame themselves. Its always someone else's fault.

The credo of the republican party.

okay i'll bite bcr8f ... i thought it was democrat credo to fight for those who are in the situation they are in through no fault of their own?as to the OP, i agree 100% these posts should AT LEAST go into the venting threads if not just GO AWAY ... quit crying and work to be better - that's the credo of the republican party

 

[Manster]

people need to think for themselves. i look at others' predictions, and consider them. but how fun is it to just plug in players going by other people's predictions? the answer is not that much fun.

i got my ### kicked in most leagues this week. what can i say, my players didnt produce this week. i've had more good wks than bad.

i'm ok with it though because the Cowboys won, and the Beavers are one game from the Rose Bowl!

 

[icecoldbrewski]

Fantasy projections aren't an exact science. You have to use some common sense and at least do some of your own research. Sorry, but my sympathy is limited for those whose laziness comes back around to kick them in the butt.

 

[Sabertooth]

What people will never admit to is that fantasy football is a lot of luck. I mean, the very nature of the game, with 22 different starting players means that there are way too many moving parts to be able to consistently predict what is going to happen.

 

[Sputnikv8]

What people will never admit to is that fantasy football is a lot of luck. I mean, the very nature of the game, with 22 different starting players means that there are way too many moving parts to be able to consistently predict what is going to happen.

Its only luck when we lose. When we win, it is careful planning, strategy and awesome week to week choices. This all should be merged into the venting thread -- oh, and parts extracted to FFA.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Seriously. I get two "breaking news" submissions hitting my email box this afternoon with "FBGs cost me my league because they got the wrong kicker projected for the Giants this week" (when everybody and their brother who spends five minutes following the NFL had probably heard that Coughlin naming his starting placekicker for Week 12 was a game-time decision). Then I come in the Pool tonight and see this:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=442675

Folks DO realize that although this site offers some absolutely phenomenal informational resources, the stats on Thursday/Sunday/Monday come down to an educated guess....right?! If it wasn't an educated guess, and Dodds et al knew ALL the answers to ALL the questions, week-in and week-out, they wouldn't have time to show up around here...as they'd be too busy yelling at their pool boy to get them another towel at their sprawling 240-acre mansion sea-side somewhere in the South Mediterranean.

Folks get 'em wrong sometimes. Dodds isn't always right with his projections. Jene occasionally misses something on the IDP front. Bloom occasionally gets the evaluation of a college prospect wrong. It happens! All the garbage today though from folks saying "you cost me my league" just irritated the HECK out of me. GET OVER IT. They are right far, FAR more often than they are wrong...and they are resource #1 that I use on a weekly basis to make my decisions. They don't make my decisions though...I do. Maybe a few whiners today seem to forget that THEY ultimately turned in their own line-up cards too....

Hey Datonn,I know you get defensive taking up for David and I. Thanks, I appreciate the thought there. But honestly, it's ok. People need to vent sometimes. I get a lot of those emails when we get a guy wrong. It happens. It's just part of the territory when you put yourself in the business of giving advice.

99% of the time, the guy is a good guy complaining but he's super competitive and the emotions of losing a game got the better of him. I understand that. We're big boys and we can handle the venting.

I think most folks understand it's a projections thing though. Our crystal ball isn't infallible. We can't promise to always give the right projections. That's just not going to happen. What we can promise to do is work as hard as we possibly can to give folks the best info and insights to help make their lineup decision. We'll do our very best to do what we told folks we'd do when they started with us. And in the end, I think most people appreciate that.

Again, thanks for taking up for us. But it's ok. As you know, people take this really seriously and I understand the frustration when it doesn't go the way you (or I) hoped it would.

J

 

[SuperJohn96]

What people will never admit to is that fantasy football is a lot of luck. I mean, the very nature of the game, with 22 different starting players means that there are way too many moving parts to be able to consistently predict what is going to happen.

Its only luck when we lose. When we win, it is careful planning, strategy and awesome week to week choices. This all should be merged into the venting thread -- oh, and parts extracted to FFA.

I guess I must be super lucky since my teams always seem to be in contention no matter what obstacles it has to put up with.

 

[meeka]

People blaming others for a loss is annoying, but the soapbox cavalry chastising them are almost as annoying. At this point in the season people are going to fall out of the playoff race, and they'll be frustrated. It's understandable on game days and it might spill out of the venting thread into other areas. It's no big deal.This is crunch time, right? Some folks are getting crunched. Have a little sympathy for the fallen. They'll pick themselves up for next year, though.

Look on the bright side.....soon the fantasy season will be over and the volume of fish will drop drastically. The fantasy football off season is when the Shark Pool is at its finest. Only a few more weeks.

 

[Da Guru]

People who rely on other people to manage and make their decisions deserve to lose!

 

[MCguidance]

Hey Datonn,I know you get defensive taking up for David and I. Thanks, I appreciate the thought there. But honestly, it's ok. People need to vent sometimes. I get a lot of those emails when we get a guy wrong. It happens. It's just part of the territory when you put yourself in the business of giving advice.99% of the time, the guy is a good guy complaining but he's super competitive and the emotions of losing a game got the better of him. I understand that. We're big boys and we can handle the venting.I think most folks understand it's a projections thing though. Our crystal ball isn't infallible. We can't promise to always give the right projections. That's just not going to happen. What we can promise to do is work as hard as we possibly can to give folks the best info and insights to help make their lineup decision. We'll do our very best to do what we told folks we'd do when they started with us. And in the end, I think most people appreciate that.Again, thanks for taking up for us. But it's ok. As you know, people take this really seriously and I understand the frustration when it doesn't go the way you (or I) hoped it would.J

 

[lgamble82]

I looked at all the information, on my WR's this week, and came up with Avery being a great choice and played him over Holmes.

I looked at the projections and they said the same thing, Avery will do well.

He didn't explode, I'll get over it.

On to next week...

"If there wasn't luck involved, I'd win everytime"

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

"If there wasn't luck involved, I'd win everytime"

One of Hellmuth's classics.