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What's your team's WORST draft? (1 Viewer)

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We can all name the Ryan Leafs and the Andre Wares :hot: that our team's have drafted. But what year do you all feel your team has done the WORST in the draft? Big picture, not just one single player. I have to go with 2002 for the Lions.

Why? To start, only 1 player drafted that year still remains on the active roster (Kalimba Edwards). And he is certainly not a difference maker. Further...

1 3 Joey Harrington QB Oregon - Okay, arguably one of the worst drafts in recent memory for QB's. But we spent entirely WAY too much time waiting for this guy to develop.

2 35 Kalimba Edwards DE South Carolina - Hasn't been much of a factor since his 6.5 sack rookie year

3 68 Andre' Goodman CB South Carolina - A few decent seasons, currently plays for Miami

4 134 John Taylor DE Montana State - Either Google is broke, or this guy has NO STATS

5 138 John Owens TE Notre Dame - 5 catches 49 yards as a Lion

6 175 Chris Cash CB Southern California - Nothing after a 100 tackle rookie year. Currently a Falcon

7 214 Luke Staley RB Brigham Young - Never played a down in the NFL

7 252 Matt Murphy TE Maryland - 3 teams, 3 total catches

7 259 Victor Rogers T Colorado - played 1 game

Lots of talent sitting there throughout this draft, and we actually took a step back.

 
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For the Bears: 1997, hands down. Take a look:

1 2 8 38 John Allred TE USC

2 3 9 69 Bob Sapp G Washington

3 4 9 105 Darnell Autry RB Northwestern

4 4 12 108 Marcus Robinson WR South Carolina

5 5 11 141 Van Hiles DB Kentucky

6 6 33 196 Shawn Swayda DT Arizona State

7 6 37 200 Richard Hogans LB Memphis

8 6 38 201 Ricky Parker DB San Diego State

9 7 9 210 Mike Miano DT SW Missouri State

10 7 32 233 Marvin Thomas DE Memphis

None of those players are on the current roster, and only one of those players (Robinson) is still in the league.

 
I'm going to go back a little more than 10 years for this one, but I have a "big picture" example like you asked for, rather than a ticking off of a few individual bad picks.

On Halloween in 1987, the Rams traded away Eric Dickerson in a blockbuster 3-team deal that included Cornelius Bennett as well. Dickerson had rushed for 1808, 2105, 1234, and 1821 yards in his first 4 years as a Ram, but the Rams unloaded him after contract squabbling and received a small fortune in return.

In addition to 2 fill-in RBs, the Rams received 3 first round picks and 3 second round picks, which turned out to be:

1.14, 1.20, and 2.47 in 1988

1.26, 2.45, and 2.53 in 1989

Here's how the Rams drafted in 1988 and 1989:

1988

Rd Sel# Player Pos. School

1 14 Gaston Green RB UCLA

1 20 Aaron Cox WR Arizona State

2 35 Anthony Newman DB Oregon

2 46 Willie Anderson WR UCLA

2 47 Fred Strickland OLB Purdue

3 82 Mike Piel DE Illinois

1989

Rd Sel# Player Pos. School

1 21 Bill Hawkins DE Miami

1 26 Cleveland Gary RB Miami

2 45 Frank Stams OLB Notre Dame

2 48 Brian Smith DT Auburn

2 53 Darryl Henley CB UCLA

3 75 Kevin Robbins G Michigan State

From 1990-1998, the Rams had a losing record every year, and while some of these guys played, even started, for a little while, they at best formed the core of one of the weaker tecmo bowl teams.

 
I am also going back just a little more than 10 years to the 1995 draft of the Minnesota Vikings. Going into the draft we had clear Defensive needs especially at DT and LB. So the Vikings have the 11th pick and Warren Sapp had fallen in the draft because of a positive drug test for pot. Sapp should have been a top 3 pick in that draft and should have been a no brainer selection for the Vikings but they take DE Derrick Alexander instead. Me and my dad were literally falling off of our chairs because we were certain they would take Sapp. Tampa Bay was falling all over themselves to get the Sapp pick to the podium. Alright we blew it on this pick but this year we had another 1st round pick in the early 20's. When we got to the pick Derrick Brooks was on the board and again should have been a no brainer pick to the Vikes but we take T Korey Stringer and you all know that story. Tampa Bay then comes in and snags Brooks a couple of picks later. So Alexander and Stringer very easily could have been Sapp and Brooks. Those 2 would have looked really good on our 1998 team that choked in the title game. I just got myself depressed thinking about this again...lol.

 
Easily our first year (edit: 2002 Texans):

1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State

2 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida

2 50 Chester Pitts G San Diego State

3 66 Fred Weary G Tennessee

3 83 Charles Hill NT Maryland

4 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State

5 136 Jarrod Baxter FB New Mexico

5 153 Ramon Walker SS Pittsburgh

6 173 Demarcus Faggins CB Kansas State

6 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State

7 229 Greg White DE Minnesota

7 261 Ahmad Miller DT Nevada-Las Vegas

 
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We have had better slots obviously, but we have never had a draft that brought us less:

The 1995 Kansas City Chiefs Draft:

Rnd Pick Ovrall Name College Pos

1 31 31 Trezelle Jenkins Michigan T

3 17 81 Tamarick Vanover Florida State WR

3 33 97 Troy Dumas Nebraska LB

4 36 134 Steve Stenstrom Stanford QB

5 21 155 Mike Pelton Auburn DT

5 30 164 Jerrott Willard California LB

6 31 202 Bryan Proby Arizona State DT

6 36 207 Tom Burndt Pittsburgh C

 
We have had better slots obviously, but we have never had a draft that brought us less:The 1995 Kansas City Chiefs Draft: Rnd Pick Ovrall Name College Pos1 31 31 Trezelle Jenkins Michigan T3 17 81 Tamarick Vanover Florida State WR3 33 97 Troy Dumas Nebraska LB4 36 134 Steve Stenstrom Stanford QB5 21 155 Mike Pelton Auburn DT5 30 164 Jerrott Willard California LB6 31 202 Bryan Proby Arizona State DT6 36 207 Tom Burndt Pittsburgh C
:rolleyes: Thats the worst
 
I could also nominate KC 2001

#1 and #2 traded for Trent Green and **** Vermeil....but the rest is U-G-L-Y

3 13 75 Eric Downing DT Syracuse

3 15 77 Marvin Minnis WR Florida State

4 12 107 Monty Beisel DE Kansas State

4 13 108 George Layne RB Texas Christian

5 10 141 Billy Baber TE Virginia

5 19 150 Derrick Blaylock RB Stephen F. Austin

6 13 176 Alex Sulfsted G Miami (OH)

7 12 212 Shaunard Harts DB Boise State

7 43 243 Terdell Sands DT Chattanooga

and KC 2002

1 6 6 Ryan Sims DT North Carolina

2 11 43 Eddie Freeman DT Alabama-Birmingham

4 9 107 Omar Easy RB Penn State

5 8 143 Scott Fujita LB California

7 10 221 Maurice Rodriguez LB Fresno State

 
Raiders, 2002. This was worse than other candidates, because they had soo many high picks.

1 1 17 17 Phillip Buchanon DB Miami (FL)

2 1 23 23 Napoleon Harris LB Northwestern

3 2 21 53 Langston Walker T California

4 2 23 55 Doug Jolley TE Brigham Young

5 5 12 147 Kenyon Coleman DE UCLA

6 6 17 189 Keyon Nash DB Albany State

7 6 25 197 Larry Ned RB San Diego State

8 7 24 235 Ronald Curry QB North Carolina

What made this one the worst was how good it looked for a year or two.

Buchanon looked like a long term starter. Was traded for two picks, which is nice, but he was a bust.

Nap looked like a find at LB his rookie year. Never looked that good again.

Walker played his rookie year, and looked like a keeper. Never developed as a decent RT.

Jolley looked like a pass catcher, never developed.

Coleman was a good rotational guy for a while, think he was traded for a late round pick. might have been cut. Still kicking around.

Nash was stashed for a couple of years, but never panned out.

Ned never did anything.

Curry was a hit, but also blew his Achilles out.

While the Raiders turned Buchanon and Harris into picks, only Curry has been worth his draft spot.

 
I could also nominate KC 2001#1 and #2 traded for Trent Green and **** Vermeil....but the rest is U-G-L-Y3 13 75 Eric Downing DT Syracuse3 15 77 Marvin Minnis WR Florida State4 12 107 Monty Beisel DE Kansas State4 13 108 George Layne RB Texas Christian5 10 141 Billy Baber TE Virginia5 19 150 Derrick Blaylock RB Stephen F. Austin6 13 176 Alex Sulfsted G Miami (OH)7 12 212 Shaunard Harts DB Boise State7 43 243 Terdell Sands DT Chattanoogaand KC 20021 6 6 Ryan Sims DT North Carolina2 11 43 Eddie Freeman DT Alabama-Birmingham4 9 107 Omar Easy RB Penn State5 8 143 Scott Fujita LB California7 10 221 Maurice Rodriguez LB Fresno State
I considered 2002, but 1995 was much worse. At least Fujita developed into a starting LB ... 1995 had nothing whatsoever ...
 
This thread is starting to make me re-think the whole "you build a team through the draft, not through free agency" ...

:shrug:

 
Dolphins - 1995 was terrible at:

1995 1 1 25 25 Billy Milner T Houston

2 2 21 53 Andrew Greene G Indiana

3 4 24 122 Pete Mitchell TE Boston College

4 5 24 158 Norman Hand DT Mississippi

5 6 23 194 Jeff Kopp LB USC

6 7 25 233 Corey Swinson DT Hampton

7 7 38 246 Shannon Myers WR Lenoir-Rhyne

In the last 10 years:

1999 was pretty skunky with:

1999 1 2 8 39 J.J. Johnson RB Mississippi State

2 2 12 43 Rob Konrad RB Syracuse

3 3 11 72 Grey Ruegamer C Arizona State

4 5 1 134 Cecil Collins RB McNeese State

5 5 9 142 Bryan Jones LB Oregon State

6 6 23 192 Brent Bartholomew P Ohio State

7 7 26 232 Jermaine Haley DT Butte J.C.

Thankfully the drafts were not humiliating in the early 2000s thanks to Wandstadt trading away many of the Dolphins 1st round picks. By trading them away, he couldn't pick badly on the big money players. :cry:

 
I am also going back just a little more than 10 years to the 1995 draft of the Minnesota Vikings. Going into the draft we had clear Defensive needs especially at DT and LB. So the Vikings have the 11th pick and Warren Sapp had fallen in the draft because of a positive drug test for pot. Sapp should have been a top 3 pick in that draft and should have been a no brainer selection for the Vikings but they take DE Derrick Alexander instead. Me and my dad were literally falling off of our chairs because we were certain they would take Sapp. Tampa Bay was falling all over themselves to get the Sapp pick to the podium. Alright we blew it on this pick but this year we had another 1st round pick in the early 20's. When we got to the pick Derrick Brooks was on the board and again should have been a no brainer pick to the Vikes but we take T Korey Stringer and you all know that story. Tampa Bay then comes in and snags Brooks a couple of picks later. So Alexander and Stringer very easily could have been Sapp and Brooks. Those 2 would have looked really good on our 1998 team that choked in the title game. I just got myself depressed thinking about this again...lol.
Stringer was a KEY part of that 1998 team and made the Pro Bowl in 2000...I would say that was a GREAT draft pick!Alexander....not so much...but any time you get a Pro Bowler, then your draft wasn't that bad.

 
Dolphins - 1999 was pretty skunky with:1999 1 2 8 39 J.J. Johnson RB Mississippi State 2 2 12 43 Rob Konrad RB Syracuse 3 3 11 72 Grey Ruegamer C Arizona State 4 5 1 134 Cecil Collins RB McNeese State 5 5 9 142 Bryan Jones LB Oregon State 6 6 23 192 Brent Bartholomew P Ohio State 7 7 26 232 Jermaine Haley DT Butte J.C.
JJ = geniusTough call between that and those KC drafts.Colts have had more than a few clunkers but I'd have to go with 1978 (the beginning of a long stretch of mostly bad teams):1 Reese McCall TE Auburn2 Mike Woods LB Cincinnati 3 Frank Myers T Texas A&M 4 Ben Garry RB Southern Mississippi 5 Jeff Logan RB Ohio State 6 Monte Anthony RB Nebraska 7 Dave Studdard T Texas 8 Dallas Owens DB Kentucky:XEdit: I was looking at ever, not last 10 years. It's 2000 then:1 Rob Morris LB Brigham Young 2 Marcus Washington DE Auburn 3 David Macklin DB Penn State 4 Josh Williams DT Michigan 5 Matt Johnson G Brigham Young 6 Rob Renes DT Michigan7 Rodregis Brooks DB Alabama-Birmingham
 
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How about the Titans' 2003 draft (may be worse ones, but this was god-awful):

1 (28, 28) - Andre Woolfolk, Oklahoma

2 (28, 60) - Tyrone Calico, Middle Tennessee State

3 (29, 93) - Chris Brown, Colorado

4 (29, 126) - Rien Long, Washington State

5 (19, 154) - Donnie Nickey, Ohio State

7 (11, 225) - Todd Williams, Florida State

:wub:

Right after the draft, it felt like a homerun.

Now, not so much. :X

 
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In the last 10 years:1999 was pretty skunky with:1999 1 2 8 39 J.J. Johnson RB Mississippi State 2 2 12 43 Rob Konrad RB Syracuse 3 3 11 72 Grey Ruegamer C Arizona State 4 5 1 134 Cecil Collins RB McNeese State 5 5 9 142 Bryan Jones LB Oregon State 6 6 23 192 Brent Bartholomew P Ohio State 7 7 26 232 Jermaine Haley DT Butte J.C. Thankfully the drafts were not humiliating in the early 2000s thanks to Wandstadt trading away many of the Dolphins 1st round picks. By trading them away, he couldn't pick badly on the big money players. :X
:wub:
 
Eagles 2003

1 1 15 15 Jerome McDougle DE Miami (FL)

2 2 29 61 L.J. Smith TE Rutgers

3 3 31 95 Billy McMullen WR Virginia

4 4 34 131 Jamaal Green DE Miami (FL)

5 6 12 185 Jeremy Bridges G Southern Mississippi

6 7 30 244 Norman Lejeune DB Louisiana State

Smith is the only one to do anything at all. Only McDougle is still with the team, and just barely.

 
For the Patriots, it's got to be 1997.

Rnd Pick Ovrall Name College Pos

1 29 29 Chris Canty Kansas State DB

2 29 59 Brandon Mitchell Texas A&M DE

3 1 61 Sedrick Shaw Iowa RB

3 29 89 Chris Carter Texas DB

4 1 97 Damon Denson Michigan G

4 29 125 Ed Ellis SUNY-Buffalo T

5 29 159 Vernon Crawford Florida State LB

6 29 192 Tony Gaiter Miami (FL) WR

7 29 230 Scott Rehberg Central Michigan T

 
NY Giants 2000

1.11 Ron Dayne (cause Tiki can't handle being a feature back :doh: )

2.42 Cornelius Griffin DT

3.73 Ron Dixon WR

4.105 Brandon Short LB

5.140 Ralph Brown CB

6.177 Dhani Jones - the best pick

7.217 Jeremiah Parker DE

1995 was ugly too

1.17 Tyrone WHeatley

2.54 Scott Gragg

3.85 Rodney Young

4.128 Rob Zatechka

5.153 Roderick Mullen

6.204 Jamal Duff

7.225 Bryne Diehl

I won't bother listing it, but 1992 was ugly, especially with hight TE picks (1.14 Derek Brown & 3.69 Aaron Pierce) :doh:

 
For the Patriots, it's got to be 1997.Rnd Pick Ovrall Name College Pos1 29 29 Chris Canty Kansas State DB2 29 59 Brandon Mitchell Texas A&M DE3 1 61 Sedrick Shaw Iowa RB3 29 89 Chris Carter Texas DB4 1 97 Damon Denson Michigan G4 29 125 Ed Ellis SUNY-Buffalo T5 29 159 Vernon Crawford Florida State LB6 29 192 Tony Gaiter Miami (FL) WR7 29 230 Scott Rehberg Central Michigan T
That is real bad ...
 
Bengals 1999 Draft

Round Pick # Overall Name Position College

1 3 3 Akili Smith Quarterback Oregon

2 2 33 Charles Fisher Cornerback West Virginia

3 4 65 Cory Hall Strong Safety Fresno State

4 3 98 Craig Yeast Wide Receiver Kentucky

5 2 135 Nick Williams Running Back Miami (FL)

6 4 173 Kelly Gregg Defensive Tackle Oklahoma

7 3 209 Tony Coats Guard Washington

7 39 245 Scott Covington Quarterback Miami (FL)

7 43 249 Donald Broomfield Defensive Tackle Clemson

:X

Just to be fair, though, 2001 was kinda nice:

Round Pick # Overall Name Position College

1 4 4 Justin Smith Defensive End Missouri

2 5 36 Chad Johnson Wide Receiver Oregon State

3 4 66 Sean Brewer Tight End San Jose State

4 5 100 Rudi Johnson Running Back Auburn

5 4 135 Victor Leyva Guard Arizona State

6 5 168 Riall Johnson Linebacker Stanford

7 4 204 T. J. Houshmandzadeh Wide Receiver Oregon State

 
I present to you the 1998 Carolina Panthers draft

1 1 14 14 Jason Peter DT Nebraska

2 3 1 62 Chuck Wiley DE Louisiana State

3 3 12 73 Mitch Marrow DE Pennsylvania

4 4 14 106 Donald Hayes WR Wisconsin

5 5 13 136 Jerry Jensen LB Washington

6 6 12 165 Damien Richardson DB Arizona State

7 7 7 196 Viliami Maumau DT Colorado

8 7 39 228 Jim Turner WR Syracuse

 
netnalp said:
NY Giants 20001.11 Ron Dayne (cause Tiki can't handle being a feature back :bag: )2.42 Cornelius Griffin DT3.73 Ron Dixon WR4.105 Brandon Short LB5.140 Ralph Brown CB6.177 Dhani Jones - the best pick7.217 Jeremiah Parker DE
How is that so bad? 7 years later and 5 of them are still playing.
 
Pittsburgh never really has any stinkers through and through, but 1997 is probably the worst of the last 10 years:

1 Chad Scott Maryland

2 Will Blackwell San Diego State

3 Paul Wiggins Oregon

3 Mike Vrabel Ohio State

5 George Jones San Diego State

6 Daryl Porter Boston College

6 Rod Manuel Oklahoma

7 Michael Adams Texas

Chad Scott was our starter for a # of years but IMO never was worth a first round pick...Vrabel worked out pretty well for NE but he didn't do too much for us.

Will Blackwell was our #3 WR (or was it #4?) for a year or two...after that I don't even recognize any of the names.

 
Pittsburgh never really has any stinkers through and through, but 1997 is probably the worst of the last 10 years:

1 Chad Scott Maryland

2 Will Blackwell San Diego State

3 Paul Wiggins Oregon

3 Mike Vrabel Ohio State

5 George Jones San Diego State

6 Daryl Porter Boston College

6 Rod Manuel Oklahoma

7 Michael Adams Texas

Chad Scott was our starter for a # of years but IMO never was worth a first round pick...Vrabel worked out pretty well for NE but he didn't do too much for us.

Will Blackwell was our #3 WR (or was it #4?) for a year or two...after that I don't even recognize any of the names.
He must have been #3, because I had him on my roster. Don't recognize Mike Vrabel, eh?
 
I dont think 2001 was a very good year for my Cowboys.

2 33 Quincy Carter QB Georgia

2 56 Tony Dixon SS Alabama

3 93 Willie Blade DT Mississippi State

4 122 Markus Steele OLB Southern California

5 137 Matt Lehr G Virginia Tech

6 171 Daleroy Stewart DT Southern Mississippi

7 207 Colston Weatherington NT Central Missouri

7 240 John Nix NT Southern Mississippi

7 242 Char-ron Dorsey

:confused:

 
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We have had better slots obviously, but we have never had a draft that brought us less:

The 1995 Kansas City Chiefs Draft:

Rnd Pick Ovrall Name College Pos

1 31 31 Trezelle Jenkins Michigan T

3 17 81 Tamarick Vanover Florida State WR

3 33 97 Troy Dumas Nebraska LB

4 36 134 Steve Stenstrom Stanford QB

5 21 155 Mike Pelton Auburn DT

5 30 164 Jerrott Willard California LB

6 31 202 Bryan Proby Arizona State DT

6 36 207 Tom Burndt Pittsburgh C
I actually went to HS with Dumas. Years after he busted out of the league, he was doing public service type spots on the local TV station. Premise was someone getting busted for DUI or something, and he's say - "Don't be a Dumas". It was pretty cheezy.
 
The 1991 Seattle Seahawks Draft:

Rnd Pick Ovrall Name College Pos

1 16 16 Dan McGwire San Diego State QB

2 24 51 Doug Thomas Clemson WR

3 19 74 David Daniels Penn State WR

4 15 98 John Kasay Georgia K

5 17 128 Harlan Davis Tennessee DB

6 16 155 Michael Sinclair Eastern New Mexico DE

10 16 266 Erik Ringoen Hofstra LB

11 19 297 Tony Stewart Iowa RB

12 18 324 Ike Harris South Carolina G

I found this lovely one which I remembered. We drafted Marks Lil (6' 8") brother.He was a toothpick...needed Andro. The 2 wr in 2,3 never panned out. Only Sinclair put some good years out of it.

Not sure why we sucked in 1992(2-14) :shrug:

 
netnalp said:
NY Giants 20001.11 Ron Dayne (cause Tiki can't handle being a feature back :thumbup: )2.42 Cornelius Griffin DT3.73 Ron Dixon WR4.105 Brandon Short LB5.140 Ralph Brown CB6.177 Dhani Jones - the best pick7.217 Jeremiah Parker DE
How is that so bad? 7 years later and 5 of them are still playing.
A lot of the frustration from 2000 I think comes from missed opportunities... Ron Dayne was picked a few spots ahead of Shaun Alexander and Ron Dixon was drafted a few spots ahead of L.Coles and Darrell Jackson. Considered in isolation, it's not an awful draft, but when you put in context of who the Giants passed over, it could have been a great draft.
 
Pittsburgh never really has any stinkers through and through, but 1997 is probably the worst of the last 10 years:

1 Chad Scott Maryland

2 Will Blackwell San Diego State

3 Paul Wiggins Oregon

3 Mike Vrabel Ohio State

5 George Jones San Diego State

6 Daryl Porter Boston College

6 Rod Manuel Oklahoma

7 Michael Adams Texas

Chad Scott was our starter for a # of years but IMO never was worth a first round pick...Vrabel worked out pretty well for NE but he didn't do too much for us.

Will Blackwell was our #3 WR (or was it #4?) for a year or two...after that I don't even recognize any of the names.
He must have been #3, because I had him on my roster. Don't recognize Mike Vrabel, eh?
See bolded.
 
Eagles 2003 1 1 15 15 Jerome McDougle DE Miami (FL) 2 2 29 61 L.J. Smith TE Rutgers 3 3 31 95 Billy McMullen WR Virginia 4 4 34 131 Jamaal Green DE Miami (FL) 5 6 12 185 Jeremy Bridges G Southern Mississippi 6 7 30 244 Norman Lejeune DB Louisiana State Smith is the only one to do anything at all. Only McDougle is still with the team, and just barely.
2000 and 2001 give 2003 a run for its money.
Code:
2000 Draft PicksRound 	Overall Pick 	Player   	Pos 	1 	6 			  Corey Simon 	  DT 2 	36 			 Todd Pinkston 	  WR 2 	61 			 Bobby Williams   OT 4 	99 			 Gari Scott 		 WR 6 	171 			Thomas Hamner  HB6 	178 			John Frank 		DE 	6 	192 			John Romero 	  C
Simon was decent in his time here, but the rest :thumbup: Pinkston was meh but not nearly worth a second round pick.
Code:
2001 Draft PicksRound 	Overall Pick 	Player 				   Pos 1 	25 				   Freddie Mitchell	WR 2 	55 				   Quinton Caver 	 OLB 	3 	63 				   Derrick Burgess 	 DE 	4 	121 				  Correll Buckhalter HB 	5 	147 				  Tony Stewart 	  TE 5 	155 				  A.J. Feeley 		QB
Mitchell was a phenomenal bust, Burgess didn't do much with us, and Buck has been injured a ton and just average when on the field.
 
For the Chargers either one of these is a great choice, the fact that the draft picks were so bad 2 years in a row is something special.

1999

2 Jermaine Fazande RB Oklahoma

3 Steve Heiden TE South Dakota State

4 Jason Perry DB North Carolina State

5 Adrian Dingle DE Clemson

5 Reggie Nelson G McNeese State

6 Tyrone Bell DB North Alabama

1998

1 Ryan Leaf QB Washington State

2 Mikhael Ricks WR Stephen F. Austin

5 Cedric Harden DE Florida A&M

6 Clifford Ivory DB Troy State

7 Jon Haskins RB Stanford

7 Kio Sanford WR Kentucky

 
For the Chargers either one of these is a great choice, the fact that the draft picks were so bad 2 years in a row is something special.

1999

2 Jermaine Fazande RB Oklahoma

3 Steve Heiden TE South Dakota State

4 Jason Perry DB North Carolina State

5 Adrian Dingle DE Clemson

5 Reggie Nelson G McNeese State

6 Tyrone Bell DB North Alabama

1998

1 Ryan Leaf QB Washington State

2 Mikhael Ricks WR Stephen F. Austin

5 Cedric Harden DE Florida A&M

6 Clifford Ivory DB Troy State

7 Jon Haskins RB Stanford

7 Kio Sanford WR Kentucky
Thanks for Heiden! I love that guy!I'm a Browns fan, so I'll just say the Butch Davis years.

 
1998 1 Ryan Leaf QB Washington State 2 Mikhael Ricks WR Stephen F. Austin 5 Cedric Harden DE Florida A&M 6 Clifford Ivory DB Troy State 7 Jon Haskins RB Stanford 7 Kio Sanford WR Kentucky
That just might be the worst draft ever (led by the worst draft pick ever)
 
Raiders, 2002. This was worse than other candidates, because they had soo many high picks. 1 1 17 17 Phillip Buchanon DB Miami (FL) 2 1 23 23 Napoleon Harris LB Northwestern 3 2 21 53 Langston Walker T California 4 2 23 55 Doug Jolley TE Brigham Young 5 5 12 147 Kenyon Coleman DE UCLA 6 6 17 189 Keyon Nash DB Albany State 7 6 25 197 Larry Ned RB San Diego State 8 7 24 235 Ronald Curry QB North Carolina What made this one the worst was how good it looked for a year or two. Buchanon looked like a long term starter. Was traded for two picks, which is nice, but he was a bust.Nap looked like a find at LB his rookie year. Never looked that good again.Walker played his rookie year, and looked like a keeper. Never developed as a decent RT. Jolley looked like a pass catcher, never developed.Coleman was a good rotational guy for a while, think he was traded for a late round pick. might have been cut. Still kicking around.Nash was stashed for a couple of years, but never panned out.Ned never did anything.Curry was a hit, but also blew his Achilles out.While the Raiders turned Buchanon and Harris into picks, only Curry has been worth his draft spot.
I think the string of poor drafts from 1998 - 2003 are a huge factor in the Raiders collapse.19981A. Charles Woodson-DB- I would say he lived up to the hype his first few years in the league, after that injuries had taken their toll making him an average CB at best.1B. Mo Collins-OL-Traded up in the first round to get him. His play never justified his draft status, clearly not a 1st round talent. Started at guard for a couple years, now out of the league.2. Leon Bender-DT- Passed away just months after being drafted, we'll never know how good he could have been.3. Jon Ritchie-FB-Had few good years in Gruden's system, then signed by Philly and he was out of the NFL the next season.4. Gennaro DiNapoli-OL-Never became a starter.5A. Jeremy Brigham-TE-Career backup, no longer in the league.5B. Travian Smith-LB-Promising athletic LB, could never overcome injuries.7A. Vince Amey-DE-Training camp fodder7B. David Sanders-DE-See above19991. Matt Stinchcomb-OT-Total bust, could never hold down a starting position, I think he was last seen in Tampa a year or so ago.2. Tony Bryant-DE-Was actually blossoming into a nice player until a serious neck injury derailed his career. Made a comeback with the Cowboys (or Saints?), not sure if he's still playing.4. Dameane Douglas-WR-Never made the active roster5A. Eric Barton-LB-This was one of the good picks. Became a starter at LB for the Raiders during the Gruden/Callahan years, then went to the Jets and continued to play well.5B. Rod Coleman-LB-Another good pick, now playing with Falcons6. Darren Yancey-DT-Don't think he ever suited up for a preseason game.7.JoJuan Armour-LB-Never made it past training camp.20001. Sebastian Janikowski-PK-A kicker in the 1st round, I'll never understand this pick. Drafted before Shaun Alexander.2. Jerry Porter-WR-We all know his story.4. Junior Ioane-DT- Career backup, no longer with the team.5. Shane Lechler-P- When your punter is one of your best draft picks the past 10 years, you know you're in deep trouble.7A. Mondriel Fulcher-TE-Backup TE that hung around for a couple years as a special teamer.7B. Clifton Black-DB-Probably selling used cars somewhere.20011. Derrick Gibson-S-Bust, still with the team as a backup2. Marques Tiuasosopo-QB-Waste of a 2nd round pick, good luck in NY.3. DeLawrence Grant-DE-Looked promising early on, never panned out, I think he's out of the league now.5. Raymond Perryman-S-Never made it past training camp6. Chris Cooper-DL-Not bad for a late round selection, played well for being undersized for a couple years, then went to SF, currently with the Cards.7A. Derek Combs-RB- I think he latched on for a year or two as a special teamer.7B. Ken-Yon Rambo-WR- Typical Davis WR, all speed no WR skills, had one good preseason game then got cut. Later picked up by Dallas then cut from there as well.2002 (see massraider post)20031A. Nnamdi Asomugha-DB- It took a few years but Nnamdi has turned into a decent starting CB. But not a 1st round talent IMO.1B. Tyler Brayton-DE- Underachiever, seems to be weak against the run, and doesn't rush the passer much, definitely a 1st round bust. He is still starting for the team though.2. Teyo Johnson-TE- Waste of a pick3A. Sam Williams-DE- Speedy DE/OLB, injuries have derailed his career though. Played in 15 games last year, maybe he'll turn it around, jurys still out on him.3B. Justin Fargas-RB- Don't think he'll ever be anything more than a backup.4. Shurron Pierson-LB- Never played a down.5. Doug Gabriel-WR- I always thought he had potential, but time is starting to run out on him. Don't know what happened in New England, but he was cut, now he's back with Oakland.6. Dustin Rykert-OT- Another bad OL pick for the Raiders.7A. Sideeq Shabazz-S- Hung around for a couple years as training camp fodder.7B. Ryan Hoag-WR- Mr. Irrelevant still.From 98' to '03 the Raiders drafted horribly in my opinion, espcially in the early rounds, where only a handfull of draftees ever made an impact with the team. I'll give the '04,'05 and '06 classes a break as its a bit too early to write them off yet, but Gallery/Grove draft of '04 isn't looking promising. I will say the '05 and '06 classes are looking promising, they got a couple of athletic LBs in Howard and Morrison that are making an impact on defense.
 
Eagles 92-93

It may be going back a bit but remember when the players won the right to free agencey and when we lost Reggie White the actually gave us another #1 pick as a compencetory

pick. We blew both #1's and the rest of the draft also.

EAGLES 93

1. Lester Homes G Jackson State

1. Leonard Renfro DT Colorado (the supposed next comming of Jerome Brown)

2. Victor Bailey WR (Caught maybee 1 or 2 TD's went to KC did nothing also)

3. Derrick Fraizer CB (opening day I could still remember the orange Tampa bay team beat us soundly at the Vet and watching Sportscenter " Down goes Fraizer" over and over burnt by Horrece Copeland

3. Mike Reid S North Carolina State

6. Derrick Oden LB ?????

7. Joey Mickey TE Never made team

8. Doug Sknee T Mich ????????

The loss of Reggie White was soo big this year and this was Norman Brahmans plan to rebuild through the draft. Just like Dallas with the Hershel Walker trade, but its not just having the picks its picking the right guys. This coupled with a disasterous 92 draft, Rick Kotite now firmly in charge and this set us back for years.

EAGLES 92

1. No #1 , traded a year earlier for the right to move up for Antone Davis

2. siran Stacy RB Alabama (bum)

3. Tommy Jeter DT Texas (bum)

4. Tony Brooks RB Notre Dame (bum)

4. Casey Weldon (never could sign him he went back into draft next year)

a bunch of bums with

10. Mark McMillan CB the lone bright pick who had a ok carear with the ,Jets 5'8" or something

 
Eagles 92-93It may be going back a bit but remember when the players won the right to free agencey and when we lost Reggie White the actually gave us another #1 pick as a compencetorypick. We blew both #1's and the rest of the draft also. EAGLES 931. Lester Homes G Jackson State1. Leonard Renfro DT Colorado (the supposed next comming of Jerome Brown)2. Victor Bailey WR (Caught maybee 1 or 2 TD's went to KC did nothing also)3. Derrick Fraizer CB (opening day I could still remember the orange Tampa bay team beat us soundly at the Vet and watching Sportscenter " Down goes Fraizer" over and over burnt by Horrece Copeland 3. Mike Reid S North Carolina State6. Derrick Oden LB ?????7. Joey Mickey TE Never made team8. Doug Sknee T Mich ????????The loss of Reggie White was soo big this year and this was Norman Brahmans plan to rebuild through the draft. Just like Dallas with the Hershel Walker trade, but its not just having the picks its picking the right guys. This coupled with a disasterous 92 draft, Rick Kotite now firmly in charge and this set us back for years.EAGLES 921. No #1 , traded a year earlier for the right to move up for Antone Davis2. siran Stacy RB Alabama (bum)3. Tommy Jeter DT Texas (bum)4. Tony Brooks RB Notre Dame (bum)4. Casey Weldon (never could sign him he went back into draft next year)a bunch of bums with10. Mark McMillan CB the lone bright pick who had a ok carear with the ,Jets 5'8" or something
There are several terrible drafts under Kotite.
 
Eagles 2003 1 1 15 15 Jerome McDougle DE Miami (FL) 2 2 29 61 L.J. Smith TE Rutgers 3 3 31 95 Billy McMullen WR Virginia 4 4 34 131 Jamaal Green DE Miami (FL) 5 6 12 185 Jeremy Bridges G Southern Mississippi 6 7 30 244 Norman Lejeune DB Louisiana State Smith is the only one to do anything at all. Only McDougle is still with the team, and just barely.
2000 and 2001 give 2003 a run for its money.
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2000 Draft PicksRound 	Overall Pick 	Player   	Pos 	1 	6 			  Corey Simon 	  DT 2 	36 			 Todd Pinkston 	  WR 2 	61 			 Bobby Williams   OT 4 	99 			 Gari Scott 		 WR 6 	171 			Thomas Hamner  HB6 	178 			John Frank 		DE 	6 	192 			John Romero 	  C
Simon was decent in his time here, but the rest :confused: Pinkston was meh but not nearly worth a second round pick.
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2001 Draft PicksRound 	Overall Pick 	Player 				   Pos 1 	25 				   Freddie Mitchell	WR 2 	55 				   Quinton Caver 	 OLB 	3 	63 				   Derrick Burgess 	 DE 	4 	121 				  Correll Buckhalter HB 	5 	147 				  Tony Stewart 	  TE 5 	155 				  A.J. Feeley 		QB
Mitchell was a phenomenal bust, Burgess didn't do much with us, and Buck has been injured a ton and just average when on the field.
What they got out of Simon and Pinkston was greater than what they've gotten out Smith. It's probably closed in terms of what the Eagles actually got out of Burgess/C-Buck and Feeley, but Burgess has been great with the Raiders and Stewart's played in the league for a while, so I'd give them more credit for the 01 draft.
 
Not gonna say a year, not gonna name picks, just two wordsRicky Williams...I still hate Mike Ditka for that
I'm surprised only one person has brought that up!Saints fans, I'm curious. Many, including myself, believe that an entire draft is too much to give up for ANY one player. If the outcome had been better, lets say Ricky stayed with NO and had a great career, would you still think it was a bad move? Or was it a risk worth taking?
 
For the Chargers either one of these is a great choice, the fact that the draft picks were so bad 2 years in a row is something special.1999 2 Jermaine Fazande RB Oklahoma 3 Steve Heiden TE South Dakota State 4 Jason Perry DB North Carolina State 5 Adrian Dingle DE Clemson 5 Reggie Nelson G McNeese State 6 Tyrone Bell DB North Alabama 1998 1 Ryan Leaf QB Washington State 2 Mikhael Ricks WR Stephen F. Austin 5 Cedric Harden DE Florida A&M 6 Clifford Ivory DB Troy State 7 Jon Haskins RB Stanford 7 Kio Sanford WR Kentucky
not only are these the worst two drafts ever. I think they traded their #1 in 1999 for that 2nd rounder the year before and took Ricks. Thanks Bobby. Geez that guy must have gotten alzheimers.
 
The Eagles also turned the AJ Feely pick into a high 2nd rounder (which I think turned out to be Reggie Brown).

Plus Derrick Burgess was an alright player for us, he was just a little too injured for the Eagles to give him the kind of money that OAK did.

Buckhalter is still with the team and still give the Birds some good player every other year.

Mitchell was a bust, but he did catch that LJ Smith fumble in the playoffs.

They got more out of that 2001 class then they did out of the 2003 class.

Corey Simon actually made a ProBowl, that alone make him a better pick then anything in the 2003 class thusfar.

 
2 2 Tony Mandarich Michigan State T

3 2 58 Matt Brock Oregon DE

3 18 74 Anthony Dilweg Duke QB

4 3 87 Jeff Graham Long Beach State QB

5 12 124 Jeff Query Millikin WR

5 15 127 Vince Workman Ohio State RB

6 3 142 Chris Jacke Texas-El Paso K

7 2 169 Mark Hall SW Louisiana DE

8 3 198 Thomas King SW Louisiana DB

8 11 206 Brian Shulman Auburn P

9 2 225 Scott Kirby Arizona State T

10 3 254 Ben Jessie SW Texas State DB

11 2 281 Cedric Stallworth Georgia Tech DB

12 3 310 Stan Shiver Florida State DB

 
For the Bears: 1997, hands down. Take a look: 1 2 8 38 John Allred TE USC 2 3 9 69 Bob Sapp G Washington 3 4 9 105 Darnell Autry RB Northwestern 4 4 12 108 Marcus Robinson WR South Carolina 5 5 11 141 Van Hiles DB Kentucky 6 6 33 196 Shawn Swayda DT Arizona State 7 6 37 200 Richard Hogans LB Memphis 8 6 38 201 Ricky Parker DB San Diego State 9 7 9 210 Mike Miano DT SW Missouri State 10 7 32 233 Marvin Thomas DE Memphis None of those players are on the current roster, and only one of those players (Robinson) is still in the league.
Is there a best year blog going or you gonna start that one next?
 
Not gonna say a year, not gonna name picks, just two wordsRicky Williams...I still hate Mike Ditka for that
I'm surprised only one person has brought that up!Saints fans, I'm curious. Many, including myself, believe that an entire draft is too much to give up for ANY one player. If the outcome had been better, lets say Ricky stayed with NO and had a great career, would you still think it was a bad move? Or was it a risk worth taking?
Unfortunately, that was probably Ditka's best draft with the Saints. Who knows what kind of damage he would have done with those picks. At least we got a couple of 1's and change for Ricky later on.19971b 10 Chris Naeole G Colorado 2a 33 Rob Kelly S Ohio State 2b 39 Jared Tomich DE Nebraska 3 62 Troy Davis RB Iowa State 4a 99 Danny Wuerffel QB Florida 4c 116 Keith Poole WR Arizona State6a 165 Nicky Savoie TE LSU 19981 8 Kyle Turley T San Diego State 2 40 Cameron Cleeland TE Washington 4a 97 Fred Weary CB Florida 4b 99 Julian Pittman DE Florida State 5 132 Wilmont Perry RB Livingstone 6 161 Chris Bordano LB SMU 7b 204 Andy McCullough WR Tennessee 7c 239 Ron Warner LB Kansas
 
Easily our first year (edit: 2002 Texans):

1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State

2 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida

2 50 Chester Pitts G San Diego State

3 66 Fred Weary G Tennessee

3 83 Charles Hill NT Maryland

4 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State

5 136 Jarrod Baxter FB New Mexico

5 153 Ramon Walker SS Pittsburgh

6 173 Demarcus Faggins CB Kansas State

6 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State

7 229 Greg White DE Minnesota

7 261 Ahmad Miller DT Nevada-Las Vegas
this draft was horrible but made worse by what we could have gotten out of our first draft:1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State (should have picked Peppers I just knew we would have with Capers here)

2 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida (decent pick but I thought we should have picked Portis or Foster)

2 50 Chester Pitts G San Diego State (we passed Portis not once but twice) :thumbup:

3 66 Fred Weary G Tennessee (nothing else was there)

3 83 Charles Hill NT Maryland (I'll admit when I'm wrong but I wanted Crouch here) ;)

4 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State (Randy McMicheal was the most athletic Te in the draft and he was still there)

5 136 Jarrod Baxter FB New Mexico (nothing really here but I thought they should have drafted Adriann Peterson RB Georgia Southern)

5 153 Ramon Walker SS Pittsburgh I actually liked this pick decent special teams guy)

6 173 Demarcus Faggins CB Kansas State Adrian Peterson

6 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State (again Adrian Peterson was still there. guess you could see i really liked this guy) i thought him and Portis/Foster wold have been a great backfield

7 229 Greg White DE Minnesota Rock Cartwright was a personal friend of mine from Conroe and I just knew the Texans would take him. Guess Baxter made them overlook him.

7 261 Ahmad Miller DT Nevada-Las Vegas Kevin Shaffer I got family in Tulsa and they told me about this guy.

probably not the best draft but atleast we would have had some playable players that would still be on the team. No one from that draft other than Carr was there last year. Now hes not even here. :gross:

 
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This one was rough for Jacksonville in 2000:

1 (29) R. Jay Soward WR USC

2 (60) Brad Meester C Northern Iowa - Still with team

3 (92) T.J. Slaughter ILB Southern Miss

4 (123) Joey Chustz T La Tech

5 (159) Kiwaukee Thomas CB Ga Southern

6 (196) Emanuel Smith WR Arkansas

7 (236) Erik Olson FS Colorado State

7 (241) Rob Meier DT Washington State - Still with team

7 (243) Shyrone Stith RB Virginia Tech

7 (245) Danny Clark LB Illinois

7 (247) Mark Baniewicz T Syracuse

1999 was worse though!

1 (26) Fernando Bryant CB Alabama

2 (56) Larry Smith DT Florida St.

3 (88) Anthony Cesario OG Colorado St.

4 (121) Kevin Landolt DT Virginia

5 (160) Jason Craft CB Colorado St.

6 (182) Emanos Leroy DT Georgia

7 (242) Dee Moronkola DB Washington St.

7 (246) Chris White DT Southern

 

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