When are the "real" sleeper IDP picks made? (1 Viewer)

[Patsfan39]

Last year, on this IDP forum, I picked up several DB players like Nedu, and it payed off greatly, having a very very solid defense.

So, for the IDP experts, when do you guys pick your real sleepers, right now are just long shots... I'm looking to do the same thing I did last year with the help of you guys.

 

[stevegamer]

Last year, on this IDP forum, I picked up several DB players like Nedu, and it payed off greatly, having a very very solid defense.So, for the IDP experts, when do you guys pick your real sleepers, right now are just long shots... I'm looking to do the same thing I did last year with the help of you guys.

I generally wait until the late 2nd or the 3rd to start looking for non-LB IDP's. I consider basically all DL longshots - they rarely produce early, and sometimes never produce. I almost never draft them anymore, after realizing how I was squandering roster spots.For DB, I normally want to grab a rookie who isn't a longshot to start in the NFL to see if he can challenge for a starting spot on my roster. I'd start looking at IDP longshots around round 5. I've gotten to the point where my IDP core is good enough that I can just upgrade the bottom of the depth chart every year, and hope to hit someone more useful.

 

[The Future Champs]

Obviously depends on your league. The Mike LBs usually go fast in a tackle heavy league, but some SSs can put up big numbers and not get drafted at all. Wills are also good targets for late sleeper picks. Here's a couple of factors to look for:

Lousy team. (more time on D)

3 down player (opportunity)

Young guy with no rep. (under the radar)

No real competition for position.

No competing stud tacklers.

Rookie LBs can be major bargains (and busts, of course)

Rookie CBs are said to get more opportunities due to being targeted by the Off, but I don't have any data to back that up.

Frankly, rookie DEs and DTs just seem to get abused, but I might be wrong about that.

 

[Jene Bramel]

I'm not sure I understand the question.

Are you asking what time of year I start making confident sleeper picks? Or at what point in the draft do I start reaching?

 

[The Man With No Name]

Probably not until sometime into training camp

I think he wants to know about when you will start proclaiming guys like Fred Bennett (2007 miss), Brandon McGowan (2008 miss) and Ndukwe (2008 hit) as hot sleepers. Players not on anyones radar that have a good shot to land a starting spot based on camp hype/articles and team positions not being set in stone.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Well, I'd prefer to focus on Yeremiah Bell rather than Fred Bennett. :(

A lot of situations present themselves pretty early -- last season splits, free agent movement, scheme change, return from injury, etc. But the nature of those changes means that hype will sometimes catch up to those sorts of "sleepers" in leagues with enough owners who are paying attention year round. There are plenty of situations that won't declare themselves until training camp, though, which then generates the second batch of sleepers.

At DB, I've already been pimping William Moore pretty hard, but I think the winners of the DET and OAK SS jobs could join him as guys you might be able to get as DB4 or later with starter's potential. I was comfortable pushing Moore immediately (like Bell, Ndukwe and Bennett), but won't be comfortable with Daniel Bullocks or Michael Mitchell (or Brandon Meriweather again) until things settle out more.

 

[Patsfan39]

I'm not sure I understand the question.Are you asking what time of year I start making confident sleeper picks? Or at what point in the draft do I start reaching?

Sleeper Picks.

 

[BLOX]

You mean like Jeremy Thompson!

 

[FUBAR]

Last year, on this IDP forum, I picked up several DB players like Nedu, and it payed off greatly, having a very very solid defense.

So, for the IDP experts, when do you guys pick your real sleepers, right now are just long shots... I'm looking to do the same thing I did last year with the help of you guys.

I generally wait until the late 2nd or the 3rd to start looking for non-LB IDP's. I consider basically all DL longshots - they rarely produce early, and sometimes never produce. I almost never draft them anymore, after realizing how I was squandering roster spots.

For DB, I normally want to grab a rookie who isn't a longshot to start in the NFL to see if he can challenge for a starting spot on my roster.

I'd start looking at IDP longshots around round 5.

I've gotten to the point where my IDP core is good enough that I can just upgrade the bottom of the depth chart every year, and hope to hit someone more useful.

I had the opposite approach at first, figuring a DL can come out of nowhere to be good, so they made good sleepers. Not so much, it's usually a waste of space. So now I'm happy with a couple stud DEs and grab a filler for their bye weeks. The only sleeper IDP I drafted this year was Mitchell, we'll see how that pans out. I just don't like too many of them from this rookie crop.