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This is from Ernst And Young
Coal is 20%
Also - I hate this about EV haters. Yes, electricity is generated from fossil fuels and our EVs are powered by those fuels. However, there are advancements to renewable all the time. Eventually, we (hopefully) can get to 100% renewables to generate electricity. The internal combustion engine has zero chance at thatCoal is 20%
Thanks. So it could be about the same or way more expensive based on some variables...... I think that needs to come down for Electric to really make a push (without it being mandated) - I drive cars well into the high 100s low 200s knowing I'll have some possible not cheap but not expensive repairs OR keeping it for 12-15 years
I love this model. There is/was a Chinese company (NIO) that was pushing this big time. You pull into a garage, and in like 2 minutes, a fully charged battery pack is swapped by some robot. You go on your way. I think that is a great model and wish it gained more traction
This is one of the things I expect. I mean some paradigm shifting thing that we aren't currently thinking of will make it a lot more feasible to migrate to these sooner than later.
Thus eliminating a key freedom that lower people have to be able to control their own destiny. If another entity controls your movement then they can easily restrict it due to some perceived infraction. All in the name of "safety."
Man, that's quick.
Yea, I wouldn't have guessed that at all, but I am sure those guys know the market way the hell better than us shmucks
I'd like to see their methodology, because I am sure there is another smart guy out there poking holes in it.
In 2021 only 3% of new car sales were EVs, hybrids were 5%, meaning ICE cars were over 90%.
That seems like kind of an unfair dig on EVs. In practical terms, are they at least in part powered by fossil fuels? Sure. But IC vehicles are 100% powered by fossil fuels and can't operate any other way.
Very good info here. But even better is when you compare this to the numbers from 2000. In 2000 coal accounted for 52%, natural gas was only 16%, nuclear was about the same, and renewables only 9% (meaning they’ve over doubled in 2 decades).
the mix depends on which power grid/market you're in but the national breakdown is roughly
40% natural gas
20% coal
20% nuclear
20% renewables (10% wind; 6% hydro; 3% solar; 1% other)
Having a car with a battery you cannot change is impractical.
www.bls.gov
www.weforum.org
In order for this to happen you need to also install infrastructure as readily available as gas stations. This will take some time as well especially as that technology changes to know what the requirements this infrastructure needs.
Dont think this is correct. We will still be charging at our house overnight and there will be a sizable number of people who will never have to charge anywhere but their house.
This is great and all, but it doesn't address the question in the OP. Joe's not asking whether EVs are going to catch on or not -- obviously they're going to catch on, and I don't think anybody is denying that. The issue is how long is it going to take for ICEs to get completely shoved out of the market, to the point that they account for fewer than 5% of all new sales. For that to happen, we need for EVs to evolve to the point that they completely replace IC for the typical household who wants to be able to pull a boat to their cabin two states over a few times each summer.Are We on the Brink of an Electric Vehicle Boom? Only with More Action
Recent data suggests passenger electric vehicles are poised for exponential growth over the next decade. But will this change occur fast enough to decrease transportation emissions enough to prevent dangerous climate impacts?www.wri.org
Totally disagree if the goal is to get to 95% plus of EV's. For that to happen you need the infrastructure support or people won't get to that point. Freedom is big to wander and you can't do that if you have to hard line in your trip to make sure you don't run out of "gas".
In fairness, this could be accomplished in two ways. We could make charging stations as ubiquitous as gas stations are today. Or we could make gas stations as rare and hard to find as charging stations are today. The first isn't going to happen any time soon, but the second could happen pretty easily. Gas stations aren't very profitable now, and it wouldn't take much to push a bunch of them over the edge. And once gas stations dry up a bit, some of the "convenience" arguments for IC go away. Maybe that's how we get to a tipping point that swings the market toward EVs.
The typical household does no such thing though, so maybe those holdouts are the 5%ers
Don't forget that in addition to that 45 minutes you have to map our a specific route that may not be ideal because not every place has the right charging station. Until the infrastructure is in place this lack of freedom is a big stumbling block to getting to the level identified in the OP.
That's what I mean. You need to capture the bass-boat people to get to 95% market share. You can't get there by replacing people's going-to-the-store vehicle.
Do you stop to eat when you do the drive? We road trip a lot. And when we drive we always stop every 3- 4 hours or so and let the dogs get out and we get some food and stretch our legs as well. No reason why we couldn’t do that and have our car charge at the same time.
But i think you can. The bass boat crew is a small percentage of the population. I don’t think you need to capture them to get to 95
Even if there is one every rest stop - I just don't like the "forced" wait.
In 10 years time you will not have to map out a specific route. There will be charging stations eveywhere.
We stop the same interval 3ish hours. Its to pee and fill up...... Any food is consumed in the car....... We are a pit crew when it comes to travel stops in and out
This goes to the forcing to EV that I think will get the most push back. I still think the best way to convert people is to have this change be moderate. No need to eliminate one or the other and if you pull more to even it extends the resources that much further. There will always be the tech nerds that want to be on the cutting edge and there will always be the curmudgons that don't want change. The key is the middle group that wants the same flexibility as they have now and a technolgoy to be proven to meet this. If done right you will get there but forcing it is not the best way (even it turns out it may eventually have to happen as resources run out).
Which is exactly the infrastructure I am talking about that needs to be in place to have a chance at 95%
You are most certainly not alone in this thinking. And I get it.
