Drunken Cowboy
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They hinted at it 3 or 4 times and then I never saw where.
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Where Did ESPN say Cowher might go (1 Viewer)
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Blackjacks
Footballguy
Cleveland
mcintyre1
Footballguy
If this happened, Steeler fans everywhere would collectively #### a brick large enough to crush the known universe.
chris1969
Footballguy
stevegamer
Footballguy
And at least one poster on this board would have his head explode.
jurb26
Footballguy
hutchins929
Footballguy
I see Bill Cowher signing on as the next head coach of the Carolina Panthers, after all he has Carolina ties. Of course this only happens if/when John Fox gets fired or quits.
I could see Fox coaching for the Giants and Cowher coaching for the Panthers starting with the 08-09 season.
Just my opinion though.
I could see Fox coaching for the Giants and Cowher coaching for the Panthers starting with the 08-09 season.
Just my opinion though.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I could see him Jax. if Del Rio doesn't make the playoffs this year. Too much talent on that team not to win a playoff game.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He can do as he wants and I'll wish him the best.
Bill was nothing but solid for the Steelers.
Bill was nothing but solid for the Steelers.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I am all for him going to Cleveland if it was this year so they had to give us picks.
JaxBill
Footballguy
I don't think Weaver is willing to pay 5+ Mil for his head coach in a small-market.And I second the Cowher to Panthers scenario.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
at Cowher.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Agreed. The Jags can't afford him.JaxBill said:
dpeease
Footballguy
There are only a few owners who are going to be willing to shell out the kind of cash that Cowler is looking for. I dont think Cleveland is one of them.
streamkeeper
Footballguy
I will take any bets right now that Bill will end up in Washington. I think the Gibbs expirment will come to an end this year when they fail again to make the playoffs and Snyder will as usual pay too much for a coach.
The distance form Raleigh to Washington is not much difference than Raleigh to Charlotte. The pockets in Washington are deeper.
BTW Fox IMHO will be fine, he is a good coach with a lot of talent and I just don't expect there will be much of a reason to fire him after the 2007 season.
Regardless, I wish the best for Bill and appreciate his time in Pittsburgh.
The distance form Raleigh to Washington is not much difference than Raleigh to Charlotte. The pockets in Washington are deeper.
BTW Fox IMHO will be fine, he is a good coach with a lot of talent and I just don't expect there will be much of a reason to fire him after the 2007 season.
Regardless, I wish the best for Bill and appreciate his time in Pittsburgh.
Yitbos69
Footballguy
Cowher to Carolina is just crazy talk. Fox is a very good coach. Last year was horrible but you never heard anyone calling for his head around here. There were coaches on his staff that needed to go. For the Carolina job to open up Fox would have to quit cause he is not getting fired!!I am a huge Gibbs fan and I think he turns it around this year. But even if he doesn't I think he will have to quit for there to be an opening in Washington. That said I would love to see Cowher in Washington. The guy is a class act and a very good coach.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Is it me?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I could see Carolina, Washington, Dallas or New York but I think he sits out another year.
I think Cowher is smart enough to stay away from the Browns.
I think Cowher is smart enough to stay away from the Browns.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
This is the answer. He's going to Washington next year and Gibbs is going to go back to the racetrack...
TheFanatic
Footballguy
erymer
Footballguy
Chris Mortenson called it on the "Browns on the clock" section last night. He said Cowher would be going to Cleveland in 08.
It's not too far of a stretch though. He played for Cleveland from 80-82 and was the Special teams coach from 85-86 and DB coach from 87-88. I do think a few heads would pop clean off if it happened though. A coach like that is just what the Browns need. A proven winner as a head coach and a hard nosed kind of guy that could instill a winning attitude. I personally would love it, but then again, I am biased.
It's not too far of a stretch though. He played for Cleveland from 80-82 and was the Special teams coach from 85-86 and DB coach from 87-88. I do think a few heads would pop clean off if it happened though. A coach like that is just what the Browns need. A proven winner as a head coach and a hard nosed kind of guy that could instill a winning attitude. I personally would love it, but then again, I am biased.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I guess if Cleveland offers enough cash he might do it. It would be a slap in the face to the Rooney's and the city of Pittsburgh though.
Norseman
Footballguy
He said the $10 million figure was for GM and head coaching responsibilties. Would Cleveland really dish out that kind of money? Paging BGP
erymer
Footballguy
I don't know. I know ownership really wants to win as do all of us Browns fans and they keep on spending in free agency. I know they thought they had their man in Crennel, but they may not be willing to put up with another losing season. I think the team has taken some good steps from a personel standpoint in the last couple seasons. It is a heafty price tag for a coach, but maybe they are tired of suffering through losing season after losing season. I am not saying it will happen, but I don't think it's too far fetched. I'm anxious to hear BGP's take as well.
Browns Rule!
Footballguy
This would be the greatest thing ever for our organization if we lose Romeo. The Browns may have made me a bit of a pessimist, but I'm going to be optimistic and say we are going to the Super Bowl this year, and this is just the beginning of a long tenure of Romeo as the Browns coach.
nxmehta
Footballguy
I think there's no question that the Browns would fork over the cash, particularly if Romeo doesn't get it together this year. The Browns are certainly not cash starved at the moment. Now, if Cower wanted to be GM and coach... I don't think the Browns are ready to dump Phil Savage, at least not for another 2 years. Maybe in 2009 if our players keep busting like Couch/Brown/Warren/Green etc. But I see Romeo heading out at the end of this year if we fail to put together some more wins.The question isn't cash; the question is whether the current staff is going to turn things around by 2008/2009, and also whether Cower would want to come here.
snorlax
Zzzzzzzzzzzz.
1. Flying the whole team to the Super Bowl and getting them tickets probably wouldn't save Romeo's job if he's going to get fired.2. A project like that would surely violate the CBA and likely cost the Browns draft picks.
erymer
Footballguy
I don't think they would likely dump Savage either. Also he had nothing to do with the drafting of those players you mentioned. that was all done Pre-Savage. Money is definitely not an issue in this one. we don't spend Dan Snyder kind of cash, but the Brown's aren't afraid to write checks either.
Yes the rumor I've heard for some time is that Browns owner Randy Lerner is infatuated with bringing Bill Cowher back to the Browns, and is willing to pay him a lot to return. Obviously Cowher can still coach for another 15 years.
As an aside, I have a copy of the 1986 Browns-Jets double OT playoff win. At one point they show a young Cowher, with flowing locks down to his shoulders, replete in his Browns garb, shout at one of his players on the field, turn and spit a huge hocker into the ground.
As an aside, I have a copy of the 1986 Browns-Jets double OT playoff win. At one point they show a young Cowher, with flowing locks down to his shoulders, replete in his Browns garb, shout at one of his players on the field, turn and spit a huge hocker into the ground.
Sometimes head coaches change teams yet stay in the same division. Parcells coached three different NFC East teams. Shanahan went from the Raiders to the Broncos. Schottenheimer coached the Chiefs and the Chargers. Seifert coached the 49ers and Panthers.
But yeah, Cowher from the Browns to the Steelers to the Browns is a wild trip lol.
But yeah, Cowher from the Browns to the Steelers to the Browns is a wild trip lol.
No he's right there were just two.
nxmehta
Footballguy
Yeah, I know those players were Pre-Savage- what I meant was that if Savage's picks start to bust in a similar way to prior picks (Wimbley is solid, but the jury's still out on Braylon, and we'll see what happens this year), then we've got a problem.
If he takes a HC job again in '08, I'm just wondering why he didn't just stay in Pittsburgh. He had it made there. He could have been HC there until he was too old to coach. I just don't understand it.
Then again, I never understood why Holmgren left Green Bay, Vermeil left St. Louis, Jimmy Johnson left Dallas, etc.
Coaches need to start realizing that once you build something you should see it through, and once the reign is over wouldn't it be fun to start over again?
Then again, I never understood why Holmgren left Green Bay, Vermeil left St. Louis, Jimmy Johnson left Dallas, etc.
Coaches need to start realizing that once you build something you should see it through, and once the reign is over wouldn't it be fun to start over again?
Englishteacher
Footballguy
I'm going to say this: Cowher is NOT a good fit in Carolina. Not unless he's going to go with a 4-3, for obvious reasons.
I could very well see him going to Dallas. In fact, when Jerry Jones hired Phillips, the first thing I thought was: stop-gap coach. Old guy. Not heavily sought after as a HC right now. Nobody would really care if Jones fired him after 1-2 seasons. Runs the 3-4, which is the Cowpokes' defense. This enables them to keep the structure of the defense and allow their players to grow in it. Phillips maybe goes to the playoffs this year, maybe not. If they do go, probably eliminated in first round. Jerry can justify firing Phillips. Cowher is unemployed. Hey Bill!
IMO, hiring Cowher would be GREAT for the Cowboys because he would be another coach, like Parcells, who would command enough respect (if for no other reason than he'd spit at you while talking and then get up in your face and rub that chin with drool all over you) to be able to run the football team without the meddling of an owner who is about 2% as good as he thinks he is when it comes to football. If I'm the Cowboys coach, I want Jerry up there in the luxury box, drinking mai-tais, and staying the hell away from my football team. Is it any wonder the Cowboys have had the most success under two authoritarian coaches who are good enough to run their own show, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells? Forget about Switzer and "his Super Bowl win", Jimmy built that team and Switz got to "drive it slowly in the driveway".
Also, I think it's a mistake to give up on Romeo Crennell and Phil Savage so early. Especially Savage. The guy studied under Ozzie Newsome in one of the best front offices in all of sports. My thinking is Crennell is a pretty good coach and unless he shows obvious deficiencies, i.e. can't command a team or other stuff, he should be given some time. Let's not forget how truly crappy this team was when they got there. That cupboard was BARE as they had no core group from years of terrible drafting. It will take them some serious time. I have much faith in Savage and I like Crennell. Heck, every team in the league is drooling to get any coach who has worked with Bellicheck in the last 7-8 years. Mangingi was a realtive baby in diapers in coaching terms/years when the Jets hired him as their HC.
I could very well see him going to Dallas. In fact, when Jerry Jones hired Phillips, the first thing I thought was: stop-gap coach. Old guy. Not heavily sought after as a HC right now. Nobody would really care if Jones fired him after 1-2 seasons. Runs the 3-4, which is the Cowpokes' defense. This enables them to keep the structure of the defense and allow their players to grow in it. Phillips maybe goes to the playoffs this year, maybe not. If they do go, probably eliminated in first round. Jerry can justify firing Phillips. Cowher is unemployed. Hey Bill!
IMO, hiring Cowher would be GREAT for the Cowboys because he would be another coach, like Parcells, who would command enough respect (if for no other reason than he'd spit at you while talking and then get up in your face and rub that chin with drool all over you) to be able to run the football team without the meddling of an owner who is about 2% as good as he thinks he is when it comes to football. If I'm the Cowboys coach, I want Jerry up there in the luxury box, drinking mai-tais, and staying the hell away from my football team. Is it any wonder the Cowboys have had the most success under two authoritarian coaches who are good enough to run their own show, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells? Forget about Switzer and "his Super Bowl win", Jimmy built that team and Switz got to "drive it slowly in the driveway".
Also, I think it's a mistake to give up on Romeo Crennell and Phil Savage so early. Especially Savage. The guy studied under Ozzie Newsome in one of the best front offices in all of sports. My thinking is Crennell is a pretty good coach and unless he shows obvious deficiencies, i.e. can't command a team or other stuff, he should be given some time. Let's not forget how truly crappy this team was when they got there. That cupboard was BARE as they had no core group from years of terrible drafting. It will take them some serious time. I have much faith in Savage and I like Crennell. Heck, every team in the league is drooling to get any coach who has worked with Bellicheck in the last 7-8 years. Mangingi was a realtive baby in diapers in coaching terms/years when the Jets hired him as their HC.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
From my understanding, Cowher was run out of town partly because of character issues by the Rooney's. Evidently, they're very straight-laced and moral. Seems word got out that Cowher was running around on his wife or something and they were splitting up. Maybe someone else can further expound on this topic but I believe this is soemthing I heard. Probably from pro Football Talk.
RC94
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
There were rumors of Cowher cheating on his wife around 1999-2000, about the same time the rumors of Kordell Stewart being gay were going around. They were never substantiated and Cowher made some very strong remarks about the rumors and how it affected his wife and kids. The rumors pretty much died immediately after. Not sure if the rumors were true but 7 years later Cowher is still married and living with his wife, they built their new home close to her parents, and they have made numerous joint appearances on TV and functions around Pittsburgh. If they are splitting they are doing a good job of keeping it a secret.Now there was a lot of talk about possible bad feelings between Cowher and Steeler president Art Rooney II when contract extension negotiations broke off last summer although the two seem to be chummy enough at Cowher's resignation. One thing is for sure: Bill Cowher respects Dan Rooney very much and is very grateful for getting the Steelers job back in 1991 when no one knew who he was.It is for this reason that I don't think he takes the Browns job if it is offered. Then again cash is king and if they throw enough at him and give him control of football operations it may be too good of an offer to pass up.
fsufan
Footballguy
i could see JJ going after Cowher if the Boys have a bad seasonThe scenario I'm dreading is the Cowboys going 8-8 or 9-7 and just missing the playoffs. Jerry Jones might decide that one year is enough for Wade Phillips and throwat Cowher.
Actually Bill Cowher had become a hot commodity in 1991. The Browns also were hiring that offseason, and the choice came down to Bill Belichick, Bill Cowher, and Bobby Ross.http://www.giants.com/news/eisen/story.asp?story_id=503Godsbrother said:
For what reason? Loyalty? Cowher actually got his first big break in Cleveland as a coach. He was a hot commodity when the Steelers hired him.
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ruelvis
Footballguy
Wasn't Johnson fired? I think the others all left cuz they knew they were going to be canned or management offered them the option to leave and avoid the embarrassement of being fired.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
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