16 team, 16 round, 6 pt QB TD, performance, redraft. Start 1 QB, 2 RB's, 2 WR/TE's, 2 flexRB/WR/TE, 1 DEF/ST 1 K. Performance rules have been "tweaked" this year to the point where the top 5 Def/ST will average 14 points a game while the top 5 WR's will average about 13, top 5 RB about 20 and QB's about 18 based on last years stats. What round should I target a DEF/ST if I wish to have a tier 1 or top 5 DEF/ST? (Last year the top 5 DEF/ST in this league averaged about 10 ppg) I was thinking RB, RB, RB, DEF,WR, WR,QB in the first seven rounds. Last year the first defense went in the 6th round, and the run was in the 9th 10th round.
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Where to draft DEF/ST? (1 Viewer)
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painkiller
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This is where VBD will help you out.
If the top 5 D/ST will score 14 PPG, what about D/ST 5-10 and 11-16? If 5-10 is 13 PPG and 11-16 is about 11 PPG, then by having the 14th D, you're only giving up 3 points.
If drafting a WR in round 3 gives you a 5 PPG advantage, then you end up ahead. (Your defense may be outscored, but your WRs will make up for it and then some.)
EDIT to add: I'd probably wait to draft a defense (even in your scoring system) until round 7 or 8 at the very earliest, but probably more like round 9 or 10. In my experience, defenses are a little tough to forecast from one year to the next, so I would rather get some good WRs, RBs, and a QB (or two) in rounds 1 - 8 than a defense that my not live up to its draft position.
If the top 5 D/ST will score 14 PPG, what about D/ST 5-10 and 11-16? If 5-10 is 13 PPG and 11-16 is about 11 PPG, then by having the 14th D, you're only giving up 3 points.
If drafting a WR in round 3 gives you a 5 PPG advantage, then you end up ahead. (Your defense may be outscored, but your WRs will make up for it and then some.)
EDIT to add: I'd probably wait to draft a defense (even in your scoring system) until round 7 or 8 at the very earliest, but probably more like round 9 or 10. In my experience, defenses are a little tough to forecast from one year to the next, so I would rather get some good WRs, RBs, and a QB (or two) in rounds 1 - 8 than a defense that my not live up to its draft position.
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Thanks for the input PK. Picking 10th overall, in the 4th round gives me pick #55. Last year that would have been the 27th ranked RB, the 15th QB, or the 15th WR. I've always drafted Def's down there with the kicker near the end, but until I give your VBD idea a closer look, it will be hard to pass on a PITT. CHI. or CAR. defense, considering how they scored last year with our newly tweaked rules. Gonna give your VBD a closer look now.painkiller said:
my man otis
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Near the end of your draft. YW
dickey moe
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Compare your cheatsheet for def/ST before the season starts with the final standings after the season ends. Then tell me, after the first three or four teams or so, you couldn't have done just as well by drawing names out of a hat.
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Can't your same analogy be drawn up for the QB and WR/TE position? All I'm saying is this. If tier for tier, the DEF/ST garners more fantasy points than the WR/TE position, then why not take a dependable PITT. CHI. or CAR. defense in the 4, 5, 6 round range. Over the years QB's and WR's seem just as iffy and unpredictable as DEF's. The difference between the top tier and the next in our scoring system for DEF's is nearly 4 pts a game. Seems like it should at least be up for consideration.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I think you're much more likely to be successful with the consensus 1st/2nd tier QBs and WRs (as far as significantly outscoring the lower tiers) as compared to trying to pick the right defense. I could be wrong though.Can't your same analogy be drawn up for the QB and WR/TE position? All I'm saying is this. If tier for tier, the DEF/ST garners more fantasy points than the WR/TE position, then why not take a dependable PITT. CHI. or CAR. defense in the 4, 5, 6 round range. Over the years QB's and WR's seem just as iffy and unpredictable as DEF's. The difference between the top tier and the next in our scoring system for DEF's is nearly 4 pts a game. Seems like it should at least be up for consideration.
my man otis
Footballguy
It's not the absolute value of what a player/defense scores, it's the difference between what that player scores versus some sort of baseline, usually the last starter. So the difference between the #1D and #12 D is a lot smaller than the difference b/t the #1 RB/WR/QB and the #24RB/#36WR/#12QB. Add in the fact that the turnover in the top 10 for defense scoring y-o-y is so great --> you wait to draft a defense, at least later than what you're thinking.another method that I use it to just pick 2 or 3 terrible teams (49ers, jets, bills for example) and use the WW to pick up those Ds and start them every week. You'd be surprised how many points you can get off of this.Can't your same analogy be drawn up for the QB and WR/TE position? All I'm saying is this. If tier for tier, the DEF/ST garners more fantasy points than the WR/TE position, then why not take a dependable PITT. CHI. or CAR. defense in the 4, 5, 6 round range. Over the years QB's and WR's seem just as iffy and unpredictable as DEF's. The difference between the top tier and the next in our scoring system for DEF's is nearly 4 pts a game. Seems like it should at least be up for consideration.
