Where to grab Bush in an initial dynasty draft? (1 Viewer)

[Superfreak]

I asked this in the other Reggie Bush thread but I felt it deserved it's own topic here.

I'm drafting 7th in a new 12 team dynasty league (w/ contracts) and I'm curious to where you guys think Reggie should go in that situation. This is a .5 PPR league so his value should be nice.

I see that he's ranked 6th overall in the FBG dynasty rankings but I'm having a hard time picking him at 1.07 if he's available. Seems way too early for a rookie, IMO.

I'm thinking I'll definitely grab him in the 2nd round if he's still there but I don't think he'll make it.

Is he worth a 1.07 pick in an initial dynasty draft??

BTW, my other options will likely include Caddy, Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, and Lamont Jordan. I'm not real excited about building my team around any of these guys.

Is Reggie worth the risk??

 

[wannabee]

Many strong posters here at fbg are taking him from 1.03 (WOW!) to 1.05. He is a stud prospect, especially in a ppr league.

I know there are several other similar threads if you use the search.

 

[prymetyme25]

Many strong posters here at fbg are taking him from 1.03 (WOW!) to 1.05. He is a stud prospect, especially in a ppr league.

I know there are several other similar threads if you use the search.

he went with the 1.05 pick in my start up dynasty non ppr. WOW.

 

[perry147]

Many strong posters here at fbg are taking him from 1.03 (WOW!) to 1.05. He is a stud prospect, especially in a ppr league.

I know there are several other similar threads if you use the search.

he went with the 1.05 pick in my start up dynasty non ppr. WOW.

He went 1.7 in mine about a month ago (.5 PPR for RBs).

 

[wannabee]

The reason I said "WOW!" at 1.03 was because that implies it was before Portis and Alexander. I am in the league and the owner caught grief for the pick, but I can never fault a guy for taking a chance trying for the next great thing.

The one thing I do assume: If you take Bush over Portis or Alexander, you are pretty much assuming you will not compete for the championship in year one. But, you might be a favorite in year N+1 and in the future depending on the rest of the draft.

 

[tommyboy]

the key is that this is an INITIAL dynasty draft.

If this was an ongoing one, I'd say take him 1.1. Given your circumstance I think he would be a 2nd rounder, or late 1st.

 

[Superfreak]

the key is that this is an INITIAL dynasty draft.

If this was an ongoing one, I'd say take him 1.1. Given your circumstance I think he would be a 2nd rounder, or late 1st.

Well my pick is up and the following players have been picked (in order):Larry Johnson

LT2

Shaun Alexander

Caddy

Portis

Jackson

At this point, I feel like I have to take Reggie. It's too early for QB or WR. I'm not real excited about the long-term prospects of Ronnie Brown or LaMont Jordan. It's too early for Rudi (who I really like) and the only other player I like is Edge but I'm not sold on his move to Arizona yet.

Gonna mull this over a bit but I'd like to hear any feedback in the meantime!

 

[broncofan13000]

the key is that this is an INITIAL dynasty draft.

If this was an ongoing one, I'd say take him 1.1.  Given your circumstance I think he would be a 2nd rounder, or late 1st.

Well my pick is up and the following players have been picked (in order):Larry Johnson

LT2

Shaun Alexander

Caddy

Portis

Jackson

At this point, I feel like I have to take Reggie. It's too early for QB or WR. I'm not real excited about the long-term prospects of Ronnie Brown or LaMont Jordan. It's too early for Rudi (who I really like) and the only other player I like is Edge but I'm not sold on his move to Arizona yet.

Gonna mull this over a bit but I'd like to hear any feedback in the meantime!

Personally i would be taking Ronnie Brown there, but i am very interested in seeing how high Bush has been going. I'm negotiating a trade for him in my keeper league

 

[perry147]

the key is that this is an INITIAL dynasty draft.

If this was an ongoing one, I'd say take him 1.1. Given your circumstance I think he would be a 2nd rounder, or late 1st.

Well my pick is up and the following players have been picked (in order):Larry Johnson

LT2

Shaun Alexander

Caddy

Portis

Jackson

At this point, I feel like I have to take Reggie. It's too early for QB or WR. I'm not real excited about the long-term prospects of Ronnie Brown or LaMont Jordan. It's too early for Rudi (who I really like) and the only other player I like is Edge but I'm not sold on his move to Arizona yet.

Gonna mull this over a bit but I'd like to hear any feedback in the meantime!

Bush here is a solid pick

 

[Duckboy]

After the Big 3 and Portis, there's a large tier that all have some questions. In a regular dynasty startup, Bush falls in this tier, as he's probably the only one (imo) to get to that uber-elite level, but hasn't played a down in the NFL yet (hence the question).

In a (modified) ppr dynasty startup, I think the tier reduces to SJax, Caddy, Ronnie, and Bush. I would probably roll the dice with Reggie at 1.05, and I almost definitely would in your case, with ronnie being your best other option. I think Bush will take a couple years to hit that elite level, but I'm pretty confident he will.

 

[wannabee]

This HAS to be Bush, Jordan, or Brown, imho. I do not see any other options.

 

[(HULK)]

the key is that this is an INITIAL dynasty draft.

If this was an ongoing one, I'd say take him 1.1.  Given your circumstance I think he would be a 2nd rounder, or late 1st.

Well my pick is up and the following players have been picked (in order):Larry Johnson

LT2

Shaun Alexander

Caddy

Portis

Jackson

At this point, I feel like I have to take Reggie. It's too early for QB or WR. I'm not real excited about the long-term prospects of Ronnie Brown or LaMont Jordan. It's too early for Rudi (who I really like) and the only other player I like is Edge but I'm not sold on his move to Arizona yet.

Gonna mull this over a bit but I'd like to hear any feedback in the meantime!

Personally i would be taking Ronnie Brown there, but i am very interested in seeing how high Bush has been going. I'm negotiating a trade for him in my keeper league

I'd take Bush here. Its not like Ronnie Brown is a whole lot more proven at this point.

 

[broncofan13000]

the key is that this is an INITIAL dynasty draft.

If this was an ongoing one, I'd say take him 1.1.  Given your circumstance I think he would be a 2nd rounder, or late 1st.

Well my pick is up and the following players have been picked (in order):Larry Johnson

LT2

Shaun Alexander

Caddy

Portis

Jackson

At this point, I feel like I have to take Reggie. It's too early for QB or WR. I'm not real excited about the long-term prospects of Ronnie Brown or LaMont Jordan. It's too early for Rudi (who I really like) and the only other player I like is Edge but I'm not sold on his move to Arizona yet.

Gonna mull this over a bit but I'd like to hear any feedback in the meantime!

Personally i would be taking Ronnie Brown there, but i am very interested in seeing how high Bush has been going. I'm negotiating a trade for him in my keeper league

I'd take Bush here. Its not like Ronnie Brown is a whole lot more proven at this point.

Bush is an excellent option, here, but Brown could help u win this year, while Bush more than likely won't. They are close however imho.

 

[Sweetness_34]

I am currently drafting in an initial dynasty draft and I picked Bush with 1.12

Here is the entire draft if you are interested in getting a feel for what kind of team you could land up with.

I was smart though to get Mcgahe and Dunn so I can start Bush as RB3 (we have a flex position) in 1st year and not take much of a hit. Also, there will always be Ahman Green, Curtis M, Fred T etc you can pick late to start for first year and see how Bush develops. From year 2 on, you are set.

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1.01 1 JB's Outlaws Johnson, Larry KCC RB Mon Jun 12 1:43:22 p.m. ET 2006 This is the guy I made the move up for. LJ IS THE MAN !!!!

1.02 2 Big Ticket Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB Mon Jun 12 1:43:22 p.m. ET 2006 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.03 3 BiggPunisher Alexander, Shaun SEA RB Mon Jun 12 2:45:36 p.m. ET 2006

1.04 4 Big Ticket Portis, Clinton WAS RB Mon Jun 12 2:48:19 p.m. ET 2006

1.05 5 The 700 Level Jackson, Steven STL RB Mon Jun 12 2:49:50 p.m. ET 2006 Maybe not the best value, but I really like this guy.

1.06 6 Reales Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Mon Jun 12 3:25:34 p.m. ET 2006

1.07 7 Run The Option Jordan, Lamont OAK RB Mon Jun 12 3:31:53 p.m. ET 2006 Predictable pick, no surprise here.

1.08 8 The 700 Level Williams, Carnell TBB RB Mon Jun 12 4:14:23 p.m. ET 2006

1.09 9 Reales Westbrook, Brian PHI RB Mon Jun 12 5:13:23 p.m. ET 2006

1.10 10 Ya'll #####es Is Dead James, Edgerrin ARI RB Mon Jun 12 5:54:21 p.m. ET 2006 I know he's in AZ... but c'mon...

1.11 11 Bring The Pain Barber, Tiki NYG RB Mon Jun 12 6:21:52 p.m. ET 2006 I'll take the little Gremlin here...

1.12 12 Da Bears Bush, Reggie NOS RB ® Mon Jun 12 6:33:53 p.m. ET 2006 Cannot take a chance that he will be there later, and this is dynasty so huge upside here IMO

2.01 13 JB's Outlaws Manning, Peyton IND QB Mon Jun 12 7:10:08 p.m. ET 2006

2.02 14 Bring The Pain Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR Mon Jun 12 8:30:32 p.m. ET 2006 I went back and forth on this pick, even tried to move it to a few people. I got a guy I'm comfortable with. He's going to be really good for a long time...

2.03 15 BiggPunisher Johnson, Rudi CIN RB Mon Jun 12 9:14:03 p.m. ET 2006

2.04 16 Corporate Mayhem Smith, Steve CAR WR Mon Jun 12 9:14:03 p.m. ET 2006 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.05 17 Da Bears McGahee, Willis BUF RB Mon Jun 12 9:18:23 p.m. ET 2006 Was planning to take him with my 2.01. So I still get him after the trade down

2.06 18 Run The Option Johnson, Chad CIN WR Mon Jun 12 9:52:59 p.m. ET 2006

2.07 19 Double Down Davis, Domanick HOU RB Mon Jun 12 9:54:57 p.m. ET 2006 Had to do it. Wanted Chad though

2.08 20 Double Down Boldin, Anquan ARI WR Mon Jun 12 9:55:32 p.m. ET 2006

2.09 21 SnakeInTheGrass Jones, Kevin DET RB Mon Jun 12 10:06:26 p.m. ET 2006 Tough decision here....hopefully the reports about KJ are accurate.

2.10 22 Bring The Pain Gates, Antonio SDC TE Mon Jun 12 10:26:56 p.m. ET 2006 I really hate to do this but he was actually next on my draft board...

2.11 23 Ya'll #####es Is Dead Holt, Torry STL WR Mon Jun 12 10:37:16 p.m. ET 2006 Since some ##### took my TE, I'll go with back plan A.

2.12 24 Ya'll #####es Is Dead Owens, Terrell DAL WR Mon Jun 12 10:46:46 p.m. ET 2006 Still young enough and good enough to put up some butt kicking numbers for a few more years... even though he is a #####.

3.01 25 Run The Option Harrison, Marvin IND WR Tue Jun 13 5:17:51 a.m. ET 2006 Need some of the Manning love....

3.02 26 SnakeInTheGrass Moss, Randy OAK WR Tue Jun 13 5:17:51 a.m. ET 2006 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.03 27 Corporate Mayhem Jones, Julius DAL RB Tue Jun 13 8:54:21 a.m. ET 2006 Well, that was certainly a nice WR run for a minute

3.04 28 Double Down Benson, Cedric CHI RB Tue Jun 13 9:00:54 a.m. ET 2006

3.05 29 Da Bears Palmer, Carson CIN QB Tue Jun 13 10:02:20 a.m. ET 2006 I will take the best QB for the next decade. Thank you.

3.06 30 SnakeInTheGrass Taylor, Chester MIN RB Tue Jun 13 10:02:20 a.m. ET 2006 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.07 31 Double Down Chambers, Chris MIA WR Tue Jun 13 10:19:00 a.m. ET 2006 Come on CPEP

3.08 32 BiggPunisher Ward, Hines PIT WR Tue Jun 13 10:24:34 a.m. ET 2006

3.09 33 Corporate Mayhem Wayne, Reggie IND WR Tue Jun 13 10:31:22 a.m. ET 2006 hem....haw.... oh wait this one is easy

3.10 34 SnakeInTheGrass Lewis, Jamal BAL RB Tue Jun 13 10:45:22 a.m. ET 2006

3.11 35 Corporate Mayhem Parker, Willie PIT RB Tue Jun 13 10:48:27 a.m. ET 2006 every team has to have at least 1 guy named 'Willie'

3.12 36 Reales Walker, Javon DEN WR Tue Jun 13 11:05:40 a.m. ET 2006 Did not like him at all last year...love his long term prospects now , if healthy.

4.01 37 Da Bears Jackson, Darrell SEA WR Tue Jun 13 11:16:25 a.m. ET 2006

4.02 38 The 700 Level Johnson, Andre HOU WR Tue Jun 13 11:33:21 a.m. ET 2006 Very inconsistent in the past, so I'm nopt crazy about this pick. He did have a strong second half of the season last year though....hoping that carries over.

4.03 39 Ya'll #####es Is Dead Burress, Plaxico NYG WR Tue Jun 13 11:44:17 a.m. ET 2006

4.04 40 Double Down Droughns, Reuben CLE RB Tue Jun 13 12:05:13 p.m. ET 2006 Tough pick

4.05 41 Corporate Mayhem Maroney, Laurence NEP RB ® Tue Jun 13 12:06:51 p.m. ET 2006 I agree DD, but you sure made my choice easier!

4.06 42 SnakeInTheGrass Williams, Roy DET WR Tue Jun 13 12:08:26 p.m. ET 2006 Looks like I'll be cheering for the Lions. lol

4.07 43 Run The Option Addai, Joseph IND RB ® Tue Jun 13 12:50:08 p.m. ET 2006

4.08 44 Corporate Mayhem Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB ® Tue Jun 13 12:56:12 p.m. ET 2006 see ya'll in the 6th!!!!

4.09 45 JB's Outlaws Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE Tue Jun 13 2:16:38 p.m. ET 2006

4.10 46 SnakeInTheGrass Moss, Santana WAS WR Tue Jun 13 2:25:35 p.m. ET 2006 Not a big Santana fan, but I can't pass him up at this point.

4.11 47 Reales Bell, Tatum DEN RB Tue Jun 13 2:57:18 p.m. ET 2006 Back and forth...i think i have to roll the dice on him

4.12 48 The 700 Level Edwards, Braylon CLE WR Tue Jun 13 3:01:22 p.m. ET 2006 May not play the first month from what I've read, but he has a higher ceiling than anyone else available and I'm thinking onger-term.

5.01 49 Da Bears Dunn, Warrick ATL RB Tue Jun 13 5:46:14 p.m. ET 2006 Yeah he is up there in wear and tear but a safe a pick as ever for my RB#2 (Willis, Dunn and Bush in a PPR league = GOLD BABY)

5.02 50 Reales McAllister, Deuce NOS RB Tue Jun 13 6:29:03 p.m. ET 2006

5.03 51 Bring The Pain White, LenDale TEN RB ® Tue Jun 13 6:48:12 p.m. ET 2006 Well...it was either going to be him or McAllister. So...

5.04 52 Reales Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR Tue Jun 13 7:16:12 p.m. ET 2006

5.05 53 Double Down Brady, Tom NEP QB Tue Jun 13 7:16:12 p.m. ET 2006 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

My team: Bush (1.12); McGahee (2.04 - after trade down from 2.01); Palmer (3.05); Darrell Jackson (4.01); Warrick Dunn (5.01)

Keep in mind this is not a typical serpentine draft. The guy with 1.12 (like me), got 2.1, 3.5, 4.1 and the same 4 spots keep repeating every 4 rounds.

Good luck.

 

[fsufan]

New dynasty leagues should have a vet draft and then a rookie draft (2 or 3 rounds).

I like to reverse the order for the rookie draft from the vet draft. If an owner has the 12 pick in the vet draft (12 teams) he gets the 1st pick in the rookie draft.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

New dynasty leagues should have a vet draft and then a rookie draft (2 or 3 rounds).

I like to reverse the order for the rookie draft from the vet draft. If an owner has the 12 pick in the vet draft (12 teams) he gets the 1st pick in the rookie draft.

You're going to find yourself pretty alone in that viewpoint. Having a seperate rookie draft screws up the value each team is getting by an insane amount. As we've seen, Reggie is going 1.03-1.08 in vet drafts including rookies, so having a seperate draft and giving the person picking at 1.12 the top rookie pick is like giving them a free mid-first round pick, while the person picking at 1.01 gets a rookie that will go in rounds 10+.

 

[EBF]

In a PPR league, I think he's a clear top 10 pick.

In a non-PPR league, I probably wouldn't take him until at least the late second round (12 teams).

A lot of his value will come from his catches. Think Brian Westbrook.

 

[Cowboys#1]

i took reggie at 1.7 in an intial dynasty after

1.1 LT

1.2 SA

1.3 LJ

1.4 Clinton Portis

1.5 Caddy

1.6 Stephen Jackson

1.7 Reggie Bush

1.8 Ronnie Brown

1.9 Lamont Jordan

1.10 Edge

1.11 Willis McGahee

1.12 Larry Fitzgerald

for me it was between Bush and Brown, went with Bush because of the potential greatness... risky pick but oh well

 

[EBF]

As someone who took him in the top 5 of a PPR league, I can tell you that I don't think it's that big of a stretch. All of the other options in that range have serious question marks of their own.

Larry Johnson - He's looked great in limited duty, but he's never been "the man" for a full season. Also, there's been a coaching change and KC is incredibly old on offense. How much longer can Kennison, Green, Gonzalez, and that O-line keep it together? I'm guessing 1-2 years at the most. There are no obvious replacements waiting in the wings. Good backs on bad teams can look incredibly mediocre.

LaDainian Tomlinson - He'd be my pick at 1.01, but he's not without his faults. The primary thing working against him is the insane workload that he's carried over the past few years. Maybe he's the next Emmitt, but a lot of guys would wear down with that kind of mileage.

Clinton Portis - Portis is incredibly overrated in PPR leagues. He doesn't catch a lot of passes and he doesn't score a lot of TDs. In my two PPR leagues, he was barely in the top 10 RBs in terms of points per game. Owens, Fitzgerald, Holt, Boldin, S. Smith, and CJ outscored him. That's not to mention the 2004 season, when guys like Drew Bennett and Reggie Wayne were averaging more PPG.

Shaun Alexander - There are a lot of reasons to dislike Shaun Alexander in dynasty leagues. First off, he's coming off a fluke season in which he eclipsed his career best in rushing TDs by 11 scores. I find it highly unlikely that he will repeat that success and expect him to fall back down to the 14-16 rushing TD range. If that wasn't enough, there's also the whole age/mileage thing. He'll be 29 next season and has logged over 1700 carries. Hoping for anything more than two more good years would be overly-optimistic, IMO.

Who's next? Ronnie Brown? Cadillac Williams? Nice prospects, but neither has proven a whole lot. Bush is a flat out better prospect coming out. I don't think it's even very close.

I like Steven Jackson, but he's not without his warts.

Jordan and Edge also have plenty of question marks.

The bottom line here is that every pick is a risk. A good percentage of the veterans chosen in the same range as Bush will flop miserably. If you don't believe me, then you can look at last year's drafts. Guys like Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, Deuce McAllister, and Willis McGahee were top 10 picks. The same thing happens every year. Truth is, a lot of the guys going in the top 10 really have no business being there. Time will expose them.

Is Bush one of those frauds? I don't think so. Given his great receiving skills, I expect Bush to be one of the better PPR backs for a long time. Yea, he hasn't proven anything on the professional level, but he's a nasty prospect with all of the tools needed to get it done. I have a pretty good track record with RBs, and I think he's definitely the best prospect to come out in the past 3-4 years.

 

[bigmarc27]

My best advice from my two dynasty drafts...

DO NOT pick someone because that's where "they're supposed to go" in the order. If you're not comfortable, don't pick him. If you think Rudi has 5 more years of top numbers, go for it. Don't let pick position dictate the team you have to live with.

In one league, pick position dictated Kurt Warner - oops

In my other, pick position dictated I take Marshall Faulk - oops

Go with you instinct and don't feel forced into taking a guy even if who you want is a semi-reach.

 

[Capt Hook]

In the initial draft for a new dynasty league (most of the members from these boards), I had the 12 pick. My thought about my first two picks was that I would take the best RB available and Bush knowing that I might be behind in value for this year, but I would hope to draft it back later.

Never even had the chance to decide on it as he was taken much earlier - 1.7 I believe, which I thought then and still think now was way too early.

Just because it's a dynasty league doesn't mean that you have to have x number of rookie picks - look at all the guys who are in their second year - sure Bush might end up being better next year than they will be this year or even next year, BUT he might not. There are some personal concerns with him and of course team concerns. I would rather take Cadillac or Ronnie Brown at 1-7 - they are only one year older than Bush.

Bottom line for me is that I wouldn't overdraft him - I can see him as a second round pick, although on value I think it's more like late third, BUT if you have the chance to get him with your second pick to pair with the strong player you got in the first, you might decide to do it - you certainly aren't likely to have the chance to draft him in the late third round.

 

[Cowboys#1]

as a note because i drafted bush @ 1.7 i felt like i still needed 2 good backs to pair with him.. thus i took dom davis in the 2nd and reuben droughns in the 3rd.. ideally i would have taken a stud WR in the 2nd and taken an rb in the 3rd but picking bush didnt really give me that luxury (if i wanted a decent shot at winning now)

 

[Sweetness_34]

The strategy is very simple. Jump on BUsh and team him up with a nother solid RB with your 2nd pick. Then get a Curtis Martin or Ahman Green or Fred Taylor or Warrick Dunn later on

That way you have 2 backs to start this year + Bush as the 2rd (flex) option or bye week option.

If he takes off this year, you are more than set. If not, u are set for next year at least.

Remember Brees loves to throw dump offs, and Bush will get at least 5 targets a game.

 

[perry147]

As someone who took him in the top 5 of a PPR league, I can tell you that I don't think it's that big of a stretch. All of the other options in that range have serious question marks of their own.

Larry Johnson - He's looked great in limited duty, but he's never been "the man" for a full season. Also, there's been a coaching change and KC is incredibly old on offense. How much longer can Kennison, Green, Gonzalez, and that O-line keep it together? I'm guessing 1-2 years at the most. There are no obvious replacements waiting in the wings. Good backs on bad teams can look incredibly mediocre.

LaDainian Tomlinson - He'd be my pick at 1.01, but he's not without his faults. The primary thing working against him is the insane workload that he's carried over the past few years. Maybe he's the next Emmitt, but a lot of guys would wear down with that kind of mileage.

Clinton Portis - Portis is incredibly overrated in PPR leagues. He doesn't catch a lot of passes and he doesn't score a lot of TDs. In my two PPR leagues, he was barely in the top 10 RBs in terms of points per game. Owens, Fitzgerald, Holt, Boldin, S. Smith, and CJ outscored him. That's not to mention the 2004 season, when guys like Drew Bennett and Reggie Wayne were averaging more PPG.

Shaun Alexander - There are a lot of reasons to dislike Shaun Alexander in dynasty leagues. First off, he's coming off a fluke season in which he eclipsed his career best in rushing TDs by 11 scores. I find it highly unlikely that he will repeat that success and expect him to fall back down to the 14-16 rushing TD range. If that wasn't enough, there's also the whole age/mileage thing. He'll be 29 next season and has logged over 1700 carries. Hoping for anything more than two more good years would be overly-optimistic, IMO.

Who's next? Ronnie Brown? Cadillac Williams? Nice prospects, but neither has proven a whole lot. Bush is a flat out better prospect coming out. I don't think it's even very close.

I like Steven Jackson, but he's not without his warts.

Jordan and Edge also have plenty of question marks.

The bottom line here is that every pick is a risk. A good percentage of the veterans chosen in the same range as Bush will flop miserably. If you don't believe me, then you can look at last year's drafts. Guys like Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, Deuce McAllister, and Willis McGahee were top 10 picks. The same thing happens every year. Truth is, a lot of the guys going in the top 10 really have no business being there. Time will expose them.

Is Bush one of those frauds? I don't think so. Given his great receiving skills, I expect Bush to be one of the better PPR backs for a long time. Yea, he hasn't proven anything on the professional level, but he's a nasty prospect with all of the tools needed to get it done. I have a pretty good track record with RBs, and I think he's definitely the best prospect to come out in the past 3-4 years.

Very solid analysis.I also chose LT over LJ in a recent Dynasty draft.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Not in a Dynasty but a startup keep 3 PPR league. I took him at 2.2 drafting out of the 11 hole and was the 13th RB taken.

 

[Superfreak]

I ended up grabbing him at 1.07 for many of the same reasons detailed in this thread. The upside is just too high to pass up and I didn't have faith that he'd be available at 2.05.

I tried hard to trade up to 2.02 to grab Rudi when he fell to the 2nd round but I couldn't get a deal done. Not a big deal since I was able to draft Brian Westbrook at 2.05. He's a stud in PPR leagues so I'm happy.

Since this is a contract league, my strategy is to draft starters that I can get a good 4 or 5 years out of and then back them up with solid veterans and the occasional developmental rookie. So I'm not focusing just on rookies here. I'm definitely focused on youth, though.

I'm thinking that if I can get a Curtis Martin or Corey Dillon type RB in the middle rounds, I'll be in good shape for this year and beyond.

Thanks for the advice, everyone!

 

[Bracie Smathers]

I asked this in the other Reggie Bush thread but I felt it deserved it's own topic here.

I'm drafting 7th in a new 12 team dynasty league (w/ contracts) and I'm curious to where you guys think Reggie should go in that situation. This is a .5 PPR league so his value should be nice.

I see that he's ranked 6th overall in the FBG dynasty rankings but I'm having a hard time picking him at 1.07 if he's available. Seems way too early for a rookie, IMO.

I'm thinking I'll definitely grab him in the 2nd round if he's still there but I don't think he'll make it.

Is he worth a 1.07 pick in an initial dynasty draft??

BTW, my other options will likely include Caddy, Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, and Lamont Jordan. I'm not real excited about building my team around any of these guys.

Is Reggie worth the risk??

I just update my DYNASTY fantasy rankings of, RBs, WRs, and QBs, today. This post has links to all three ranking lists.http://mb25.scout.com/fbrownsinsiderfrm14....icID=1469.topic

I had Reggie ranked 17th before the draft and didn't move him on my rankings after the draft. I have him ranked for our Dynasty league which is no PPR. I'm not keen on point per reception because it unduly awards players just for catching the ball but not doing anything with it. We give a slight bonus of two points for long runs/receptions of over 40 yards but that is the extent of bonus points. I have no idea why anyone would reward a player just for CATCHING the ball. Seems an arbitrary award for only a handful of duel threat RBs so my rankings reflect a traditional FF scoring board.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I asked this in the other Reggie Bush thread but I felt it deserved it's own topic here.

I'm drafting 7th in a new 12 team dynasty league (w/ contracts) and I'm curious to where you guys think Reggie should go in that situation. This is a .5 PPR league so his value should be nice.

I see that he's ranked 6th overall in the FBG dynasty rankings but I'm having a hard time picking him at 1.07 if he's available. Seems way too early for a rookie, IMO.

I'm thinking I'll definitely grab him in the 2nd round if he's still there but I don't think he'll make it.

Is he worth a 1.07 pick in an initial dynasty draft??

BTW, my other options will likely include Caddy, Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, and Lamont Jordan. I'm not real excited about building my team around any of these guys.

Is Reggie worth the risk??

I just update my DYNASTY fantasy rankings of, RBs, WRs, and QBs, today. This post has links to all three ranking lists.http://mb25.scout.com/fbrownsinsiderfrm14....icID=1469.topic

I had Reggie ranked 17th before the draft and didn't move him on my rankings after the draft. I have him ranked for our Dynasty league which is no PPR. I'm not keen on point per reception because it unduly awards players just for catching the ball but not doing anything with it. We give a slight bonus of two points for long runs/receptions of over 40 yards but that is the extent of bonus points. I have no idea why anyone would reward a player just for CATCHING the ball. Seems an arbitrary award for only a handful of duel threat RBs so my rankings reflect a traditional FF scoring board.

It awards Running Backs that have the skills to catch the ball (not all backs do). It rewards the possesion receiver who works hard and takes hits over the middle versus the deep route wideout. I can see your arguement, but I prefer to play in a PPR league. IMO, it can spread a little bit more parity at the RB and WR positions, which in turn makes it more exciting to draft.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Hey King of the Jungle,

It awards Running Backs that have the skills to catch the ball (not all backs do). It rewards the possesion receiver who works hard and takes hits over the middle versus the deep route wideout.

I can see your arguement, but I prefer to play in a PPR league. IMO, it can spread a little bit more parity at the RB and WR positions, which in turn makes it more exciting to draft.

I understand the concept and the reasoning you put forth is sound. Their are many forms of FF from traditional scoring to trying to get minimum points to multiple starting QBs etc, et, al. I think one of the basic concepts of FF is to try and be a pseudo NFL GM and manage your own team so one of basic precepts should be to try and mimick the league, within reason, with a FF team. NFL teams don't get anything for having their players catch a ball unless its for positive yardage or a score which is reflected in a traditional scoring league but I see your point of effort being rewarded but I think it takes away from the basic underlying pricipals of FF but that is just my humble opinion. Also I'm not keen on giving bonus points for a mundaine task like catching the ball but again, that is just my humble opinion. Cheers!

 

[Mik789fl]

Don't want to hijack but didn't think this warranted another thread. What about Bush in a 10 team re-draft league? I'm at 1:8,would taking him at 2:3,if he's still there be a wise move? I'm sure he'd be gone by 3:8. Our league is generally RB heavy in the first 2 rounds. TD-6pts,1 pt-20 yds rus/rec. NO PPR.

 

[wannabee]

Don't want to hijack but didn't think this warranted another thread. What about Bush in a 10 team re-draft league? I'm at 1:8,would taking him at 2:3,if he's still there be a wise move? I'm sure he'd be gone by 3:8. Our league is generally RB heavy in the first 2 rounds. TD-6pts,1 pt-20 yds rus/rec. NO PPR.

Avoid Bush, and other rook RBs, early in redraft leagues .... especially 10 teamers.